Large Scale C-57D Space Cruiser By Polar Lights Build Update 1.
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- This video shows how I begin the build with correcting the issue of the crooked panels of the saucer top and bottom to straighten them out and make them more rigid.
Your a Genius Boyd.. I learn so much watching your videos.
Thanks but I'm just an old shop rat that uses things I've learned along the way that seem to work :)
I'm going to follow your entire build, as Forbidden Planet is in my top 5 favorite movies of all time ! I'm 75 years old, so I've seen a "FEW" movies.
I first watched Forbidder Planet in like 75' or so as a Friday night Creature Feature on TV, lol. I do own it but in standard definition, I was not aware it was on Blu Ray. I will check it out! HUGE nodal! I want one!! Thanks for the upload! Greetings from Oklahoma!
Looking good Boyd. I believe I have the movie on blu ray. I don't get much time what with working full time and getting prepared for my wedding in two weeks. I might try and watch it sunday or one night after work this week. Stay safe and happy 4th to you, your wife and family.
Great Stuff !! always loved this movie as-well, HUGE model awesome haha.. nice. Thanks for posting
It's gonna look amazing once all that work is done. It's a lot of hard work huh Boyd lol...the bluray is awesome the color ....the sound...Robbie too ...it's cool to see Leslie Neilson in a serious character...he played a good bad guy on alot of cop shows in the 70s... again great job so far Boyd
Happy 4th to you and the family Boyd!! Actually glad to watch this i have no room for that kit lol.
Yes, it is a beast! Happy 4th to you & yours Kenny.
Forbidden planet is one of my favorite movies...thanks for sharing and stay safe!
Thanks for all the hints Boyd.
I've had my kit for about 15 years, pondering the various problems. I've finally decided to have an outer ring CNC machined out of aluminum. I'll duct tape the upper panels together, glue them, ay them on my table saw and inject Great Stuff and let them cure. Afterward, I'll have as much meat as I can possibly need, o bring everything down flat. I'll decide later if I wish to either paint the model or skin it with Baremetal foil. I'll build the interior as a separate model.
A solid outer ring would be the best for sure and being light like aluminum will not add too much weight to cause other drooping. It'll be expensive to have made, I checked on that. I'm trying to show a simpler affordable method for most that will be effective and get a good result.
Nice improvising of the saucer section 👌
Yep, the foundation is critical. Without that, the entire kit will be a mess. Nice work!
Happy 4th Chief.
Same :)
Love the large size of this build. Looks like your off to a Great start. I'll be watching
Happy 4th of July to you too Boyd. This kit is huge. Good luck I will be following along.
Looking forward to following this interesting build of yours 😁
That kit is enormous. Very good tips for getting the basics of the saucer assembly right.
Didn't expect the gap be that big, it's going to take some filling but if anybody can you can.
Great job so far my friend looking forward to the next update Boyd, hope you had a great 4th.
Boyd thanks for the shout out it's taking shape will follow you lead on this build maybe. I will get around to working on my C-57D thanks for sharing have a great day.
My guess on the extra landing gears is they only wanted to make one bottom section mold.
I've been looking foward to seeing you tackle this project. The C57D has always been one of
my favorite sci-fi ships. Forbidden Planet is still the only movie in which the Humans had the flying saucer as far as i know.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🤘
Man! This kit was a real bear! I ended up selling mine. You're right, it has a lot of issues. I knew you'd somehow figure out how to deal with them. It could have used some better design and engineering for sure. Can't wait to see how this turns out!
Super job. I really enjoy the way you describe what you are doing and why. It is great to see a craftsman that enjoys the Sci-Fi genre as I do. Happy 4th of July. Forbidden Planet is one of my top 10 Sci-fi movies of all time!
Great movie!!
I never knew the size of this kit. Beautiful kit to build, can't wait to see the finished model!
I'd guess that the manufacturer made 6 landing gear bays was that it was more cost effective to make just the one mold
I call that being a "3-D Detective." They must'a been sweating bullets on the shop floor when they started putting the parts together.
hi boyd i tried to build this kit almost 15yrs ago and it beat me ! i could not finish it but i was not as skilled back then . i have the skills now to finish it out really nice but guess what I STILL WONT !!!!! lol . im just gonna have fun watching you build it . i know you will do a great job !!!!!
Looks great Boyd. Good suggestions about putting the hull together. Thanks for sharing. Happy days and model on! 😎🇨🇦
Excellent plan. I have an old closeup of the side of the studio model and you can see waves in the outer circumference of the saucer as well. It appears the edge was exposing the original material, either wood or fiberglass, not sure. The studio model does appears to have 6 landing gear. Your approach to the dilemma of mating the top half panels while leaving a gap to reduce additional problems is best . You tackle this problem like an engineer or experienced auto body/paint specialist. Look forward to viewing your progress.
The absolute best remedy for the saucer would be to have a 3/16" thick steel or aluminum support ring made which would ensure the saucer edges would be laser straight and never move. I Looked into having one made and it was quite expensive. Trying to show a different approach here that does the job with supplies that most can easily get.
Forrbbin Plant (1956) for you kids.
just got one
You should do tutorials on the different methods and how you glue models together
I am defiantly going to follow this build, you are very clever Boyd, specially with these kits that have defections, and this kit is huge, I thought the Enterprise refit kit was big, but this saucer dwarfs that Enterprise kit, but with that said I do like big kits, I have always love the movie, I really am surprised that they added extra landing legs, I wish they would make a lost in Space Jupitar kit this large, I have find it easier to do the detail work, but as usual Boyd doing great work,
Looking good buddy!
Only reason I can think for the 6 landing legs is so they would only have to model one lower "section" and just repeat that one six times. All down to the cost of producing a separate mould for the non-leg sections I guess.
I would guess the reason you have 6 landing gear areas is they only made one injection die for the bottom and not two, saves them money in the die process, especially since this is so big.
I was thinking that also.
Looking good Boyd, I think it's the look of the draw if you get a good or bad fitting saucer due to the size of the plastic panels and the rate the plastic cooled when ejected from the tooling machine.
But it's definitely in need of lots of body work filling and sanding to get looking good.
Going to be awesome.
Looks good Boyd! I picked up this kit about a year ago and will definitely use any tips you come up with on structure and lighting!
God I'm having flashbacks of Modelman Tom's 4000 part Jupiter 6 model.
I won't go there I promise ;), Did that ever get finished?
@@TrekWorks LMAO! Who knows. It was interesting and I watched all of them but it just dragged on and on. )p
Boyd, if you were on a starship I believe you would be assigned to engineering because that's where problems get resolved
Thanks, I always did identify with Scotty the most :)
The "extra" landing gear bays are probably due to using a single mold for all six segments of the lower hull. Why they'd include six sets of actual landing gear makes no sense unless the parts list was written by someone who saw the setup for the lower hull but never saw the film.
Yes, the lower saucer panels are all off of the same mold to save money it seems.
Hello, I am a new subscriber, I just found your channel yesterday when I saw your first video for the C57D Ship. I don't have this kit but I have a ton of model aircraft that I have to build about 200 kits maybe more. So what I hope to learn from you will make my kits come out even better than they could have. I do have some questions. I tried contacting the model rail road hobby group in my city. I spoke to a few people but no one was interested in talking to me about lighting and motorizing my kits. I figured that since they build working train platforms. They would know all you could dream of knowing on lighting and building engines to pull the cars around the track. They do know a lot but apparently where not interested in sharing that info. I even offered to pay someone for their time. I have looked for info on RUclips and the internet in general. I find a lot of tutorials on electronics but nothing when it comes to putting it all together or making simple circuits to run nav, rotating beacons and engine motors to spin the props. Could you please help me figure out how to do this stuff? Point me towards a good source or someone who likes sharing info or hiring out to teach? I have kits in 1:48 and 1:32. The Kits are mostly WWII and Korean (I was born, raised and a former USAF so I tend to stick with the birds I grew up with) the kits are single engine P-51 to a massive 6 engine B-36. I have two of the 1:72 scale XB-70's one is to be wheels down and if I can figure out how to make the three drag parachutes fully deployed and the other is inflight with a F-100 chase bird off its wing. This means changing the nose and a section of windows on one side. I sure would appreciate any help or points in the right direction. Thank you. Robert
The problem is much of what is needed to motorize a particular model will have to be designed to work with that specific model, how much space to fit a motor, speed, and how to make a molded plastic part like a prop for example spin and be balanced with no wobbling. Most builders just work out the problems along the way on a custom project like that. I have seen some good YT videos that show motorized model airplanes and how they did it. There are companies that offer electronic control boards that mimic navigation lights, strobes, blinking etc. I recommend you find an online modeling community to join and you'll find a ton of stuff there with a lot of people willing to help.
I have looked for videos and other searches on the internet with poor results. Are you familiar with any forums? I have lots of parts and lights both pee lamp and LED. I just need to learn enough about what parts do what and how to create a circuit to put it all together. Thank you again.
@@robertedwards7749 Look for the "Hobby Link International Community. It's free to join and full of modelers that post good info and are always willing to help.
Thank you so much. Hopefully my search ends and I can begin doing instead of putting off building.
There's a book about movie ufo's that says that Round 2 turned the saucer upside down for some reason. So, the angles don't match the ones in the movie. I believe the book was by someone named Hagerty.
What happen to the crew ramp? Part of the landing gear? And nice work as usual.
The reason there is 6 landing gear is due to tooling cost, instead of 3 sets of molds for the outer shell, going this route they only needed to make 2 and save a very significant amount of money. This kit obviously was developed by someone who understands model builders.
Hi Boyd. Been catching up on all your builds since I found your channel. Fantastic stuff.
I’m
About to start on the smaller version of this and am looking for the board you mentioned by Elliot Brown. I know HDA has one but wanted to compare the two. Can you provide a link?
www.fedoratron.com/
You'll see Eliot's email info at the bottom of the page. Contact him and ask about the board. I don't see it on his site.
Hi! What lighting will you be using? Will you be ordering from somewhere or building your own?
I'll be using a combination of my own lighting for the interior and some control boards from HLI to add some effects for the engine and parts of the diorama the model will sit on.
The extra landing gear was so they only had to have 1 panel design instead of 2.
Hello Boyd. Forbidden planet was one of my favorite movies. I am following your refit 350 build and was wondering if you ever did anything with the paint you were talking about, you called it cosmic colors? The fury was also awesome.
I was selling it for awhile but the restrictions on shipping it changed. Being solvent based it was considered to be flammable and you had to get an expensive permit to legally ship. That put me out of the game.
What happened to the Enterprise build?
It was probably cheaper to make all the lower saucer parts the same, less parts to mould,lowers the cost.
Thats what i was thinking.
Yes, that does make sense. I'm sure making a mold for a one piece saucer top & bottom would have added greatly to the cost as well.
Just a comment for the algorithm
Looks like a bit of work. Do you have any info on the 1/144 scale version of this kit? Such as does it have the same issue with the saucer?
I've built the 1/144 kit and the saucer top and bottom are molded in one piece. There are no issues there and it fits together really well. That kit doesn't come with any interior detail although there may be a resin or printed kit out there for it.
Awesome. I'm seriously thinking about getting the 1/144 kit.
@@michaelallen3894 If I'm not mistaken, there was a motorized version of the kit available for a short time. They include a motor assembly for the rotating engine effect like the original prop. There may still be some of those floating around to be had.
Boyd where did you get the dome from. You stated that you ordered but don't know where from
A friend of mine does vacu forming and he is attempting a new upper dome that is shaped more accurately. Waiting to see if it works out. If so, he may be selling a few more. I'll let everyone know in an upcoming video if we succeed.
Hi Boyd, I have been scouring both your channel and done a google "inurl:" search, spent about 5 hours total, but could not find the answer.... A bit obsessive : )
Also been through all the Spies Hecker sites I could find online, but there are thousands of products.
Could you give us the number of the product you use?
I would like to just have a bucket of white paint that have the properties you mention, elasticity and durability, UV protection...
I think a lot of us would like to know, so we can go ask at our local store
Actually you can use just about any of the automotive grade base paints that are sold at body shop supply stores. They will all be good quality with the attributes you mentioned. You'll want to go with the urethane based paint and the recommended reducer. The reducer depends on the ambient temp you will be spraying at.
I'm very excited to see how yours looks finished ! I built the same model . Please watch it here on youtube . == Forbidden Planet C-57D Space Cruiser 1/72 Polar Lights ==
yt user Fantastic Plastic made the steps lower with motors it's really cool.