As someone who gave a couple NWHL games a chance tonight, the slow, almost dismal rate of play, the horrendously low aptitude of the players compared to even Jr hockey league games with 15-16 year old players is almost just...sad, it's like cringe worthy to attempt to watch....and we're talking about the highest level of women's professional hockey in the US... Body checks, hits against the boards etc are simply an integral part of the game of Hockey... It's basically non-existent in your average game, it's just sadly a pathetic display of competition, and I truly wish it wasn't so...but the truth is the truth...
Wait, there's a such thing as women's pro hockey? I've never seen a game, never read a box score, never seen it on TV, never heard of any player. And I follow the NHL like crazy.
The CHWL cannot call itself a pro league, because the players are working for free. Until that changes it can only be considered an amateur league. There is only one pro league and that's the NWHL.
The CWHL at the "moment" is an amateur league, 95 % of the best women players on the planet play in it... not bad for an amateur league. The womens game is growing fast and will only get stronger. I agree with the allow body checking brigade, but not the allow fighting brigade. If I want to see a fight [ and I mean a REAL fight no refs or rules ] I just need to go uptown on any Friday / Saturday night and I can see any amount of REAL fights. I don't want to have to pay money to see it., I want to see Hockey.
@@controlshift975 damn these women are even very good at the college level as well. I just watched the ncaa women's hockey championship between Minnesota and Wisconsin and I am more impressed with their skating, puck handling and passing skills in that game more than the ncaa college men's game that I watched yesterday between Notre Dame and Penn State in the B10 championship. The women's game on a professional and collegiate level has majorly improved in the last decade.
NHL established in 1917 and it had ups and downs; teams folded, league expanded to today’s size. Don’t just criticize women’s game. Support it! Support it by going to games, by asking to broadcast games to bigger audiences. Give CWHL a few more years, I sure it will be better. It will give talented players a league to play and give fans like me to enjoy the game.
Omg lol sad :/ at 2:24 with the ominous music and "they don't get paid". Well, it's now May 2019, four years after the video, the CWHL has just folded and the NWHL is about to strike. Unfortunately women's hockey isn't a draw (980 avg fans NWHL :/) so they can't gripe for higher pay.
hmm let's see when the NHL started how many men were working parttime jobs pretty much all of them, leagues have to start somewhere. and the PHF is doing that now sooner they all get on board the sooner things will grow even more and yes, they will be able to play Hockey and only hockey, but the groundwork is being done now. go watch a game and actually support them.
these women should watch the MLU vidblog called cleats and cufflinks. lots of ideas & strategies about organizing a burgeoning league with a marginal but growing fanbase.
"We have a few investors that we actually don't like to go on the record talking about" So.... You have investors with enough money to throw in the toilet for what can only be their specific freak, or fetish... I mean obviously there's no way they even make 10% of that money back...
Here is what I think merge the two league's and call it the WHL, for Women's Hockey League. I think the western Hockey league will have to take a back seat that this acronym rightfully belongs to professional women's hockey.
+leviathan 0000 They can't even make Junior C teams. I know it sounds crazy, but that's how much size, strength and speed matters, and, how vast the difference in talent between the men and women is.
+Tetrahedragon2 goaltending is the exception. it's the most difficult position mentally, and i think women are perhaps better equipped to deal with that part of it than men (and i'm a guy who has played in net). i predict the first woman in the NHL will be a goalie.
apagoogoo Yes, goal tending is the exception, I'd love to see it personally, but I just think the physical demands and abilities of men still vastly out weigh that of women in that position too, to such an extent, that they'll never play there at the highest level either.
+apagoogoo what? Women are more equipped to deal with it mentally? Da fuck? Have you even seen how women act in emergency situations? They lose their shit! I work at an ER I see this day in and day out. Women in the NHL is a terrible idea. First they wouldn't make it, there is no comparing women hockey players to NHL players, it's just a different level. Not to mention it wouldn't be fair to put the men in this situation, they would be walking on eggshells around the women because they wouldn't want to hurt them. Just awkward
Sure, but much like AHL games and other lower leagues, tickets are much cheaper. If you can get a big enough fanbase you can watch some live hockey in a fun atmosphere at a 1/10 the price of NHL seats.
This line is so tired and boring. Nobody goes to watch women's sports, because no-one wants to watch them. It has zero to do with advertising, and funding. It has everything to do with personal taste. I watched some of the Canadian university hockey championships in Calgary a couple of years ago. The men's and women's finals were both played in the same arena on the same day. Both games were on Sportsnet, and it's the CIS so advertising would have been the same for both games. This should be a good barometer of what people prefer to watch, because Canadian college sports are not real high on anyone's list of preferred entertainment choices. So presumably given equal footing, both games should have had roughly equal attendances. The men's game, while hardly being a sellout probably had 2000 people in the arena. The woman's game, had maybe 100 people. There was actually a Women's Television Sports Network in Canada a number of years ago. No-one remembers it, because it was only on the air for about 6 months. At it's peak, it had about 500 viewers on average. Not even women want to watch women's sports. I'm sorry, but women's sports are at best a niche sport, but probably not even that. If you like watching women's sports, fine go ahead. However, don't think that any amount of funding, advertising, or television broadcasting is ever going to raise women's sports to the same level of popularity in the minds of sports fans as men's sports will.
If you keep wanting it to be like a mens game, that won't happen until the MEN who run hockey from the IOC down allow women to at the very least check. . Can't you enjoy it for what it is? I guess you don;t have that capacity. I look at motor sport...Formula 1 is like men's and NASCAR is like women's...two car races with different fan bases.
The reality should be that women play the same night as men, and the two games alternate. That would be such a show and couples and families would definitely get into it when they see the gender equality. It is Canadas national sport and the men bein famous is nooooottt fair.
Cry a river. WOMEN need to support it. Men don’t have to do ish. Men created the sport. Do your part and figure out how to make more money. Ur a strong, independent creature, aren’t you?
People need to take notice, woman hockey players are very good at the game. It's time to start giving them the credit they deserve!!!!!
No they are not. Get real.
Its all about marketing
Women should support womens hockey. Its just not the same game
As someone who gave a couple NWHL games a chance tonight, the slow, almost dismal rate of play, the horrendously low aptitude of the players compared to even Jr hockey league games with 15-16 year old players is almost just...sad, it's like cringe worthy to attempt to watch....and we're talking about the highest level of women's professional hockey in the US... Body checks, hits against the boards etc are simply an integral part of the game of Hockey... It's basically non-existent in your average game, it's just sadly a pathetic display of competition, and I truly wish it wasn't so...but the truth is the truth...
When you have to tell people to give something the credit it deserves... it doesn't deserve credit.
NWHL needs to get a team in Chicago!
Brian Schlaf yup
I bet they couldn't fill a local ice rink if they gave out free tickets.
I love everything about Women’s hockey! I play roller hockey on a unisex team but I love watching these type of videos
Wait, there's a such thing as women's pro hockey? I've never seen a game, never read a box score, never seen it on TV, never heard of any player. And I follow the NHL like crazy.
Exactly. Where is the promotion for crying out loud?
The CHWL cannot call itself a pro league, because the players are working for free. Until that changes it can only be considered an amateur league. There is only one pro league and that's the NWHL.
One of the better stories of the day/week
Im sorry that u dont enjoy athletic events
The CWHL at the "moment" is an amateur league, 95 % of the best women players on the planet play in it... not bad for an amateur league. The womens game is growing fast and will only get stronger. I agree with the allow body checking brigade, but not the allow fighting brigade. If I want to see a fight [ and I mean a REAL fight no refs or rules ] I just need to go uptown on any Friday / Saturday night and I can see any amount of REAL fights. I don't want to have to pay money to see it., I want to see Hockey.
Awesome to see Women's Hockey develop.
Two years later and the battle continues 😞
Maybe if they allowed checking and fighting they might get more views
Human Person agreed, it should be allowes
Allowed*
I want checking in women's hockey. Please, stop trying to "protect" women...I can assure you we can take a hit and get back up.
@@controlshift975 damn these women are even very good at the college level as well. I just watched the ncaa women's hockey championship between Minnesota and Wisconsin and I am more impressed with their skating, puck handling and passing skills in that game more than the ncaa college men's game that I watched yesterday between Notre Dame and Penn State in the B10 championship. The women's game on a professional and collegiate level has majorly improved in the last decade.
NHL established in 1917 and it had ups and downs; teams folded, league expanded to today’s size.
Don’t just criticize women’s game. Support it! Support it by going to games, by asking to broadcast games to bigger audiences.
Give CWHL a few more years, I sure it will be better. It will give talented players a league to play and give fans like me to enjoy the game.
YuTi Cheng I totally agree.
I like how she was talking about the Americans watching the game who won though
Omg lol sad :/ at 2:24 with the ominous music and "they don't get paid". Well, it's now May 2019, four years after the video, the CWHL has just folded and the NWHL is about to strike. Unfortunately women's hockey isn't a draw (980 avg fans NWHL :/) so they can't gripe for higher pay.
Did she just say “two of the best leagues in the world” 😂😂😂
What the puck is wrong with you?
nwhl salary cap:250k
nhl minimum salary: 525k
oof lol
Llama The NWHL is just starting out, and they can't become huge overnight. +The obvious part that they're women.
Only one of those is vastly over payed.
hmm let's see when the NHL started how many men were working parttime jobs pretty much all of them, leagues have to start somewhere. and the PHF is doing that now sooner they all get on board the sooner things will grow even more and yes, they will be able to play Hockey and only hockey, but the groundwork is being done now. go watch a game and actually support them.
until the leagues unite, have the champions of both league to face each other
Lmfao they literally sped the footage of the games up like 1.5x to make it look like it’s not slow af
Wasko Gaming but its not slow???
It's not slow though??
Matt Waskosky ikr
these women should watch the MLU vidblog called cleats and cufflinks. lots of ideas & strategies about organizing a burgeoning league with a marginal but growing fanbase.
the women hockey league should just merge with the nhl
"We have a few investors that we actually don't like to go on the record talking about" So.... You have investors with enough money to throw in the toilet for what can only be their specific freak, or fetish... I mean obviously there's no way they even make 10% of that money back...
apparently, Hillary Knight likes to physically pull other skaters down if they have the puck and she doesn't...
Here is what I think merge the two league's and call it the WHL, for Women's Hockey League. I think the western Hockey league will have to take a back seat that this acronym rightfully belongs to professional women's hockey.
Vis Forvendetta there is already a league called WHL you dum shit
The western hockey league is way bigger than any women’s league lol
lol never heard of nwhl until now
They should try to get drafted by NHL teams. Maybe a couple of them would be successful.
+leviathan 0000 They can't even make Junior C teams. I know it sounds crazy, but that's how much size, strength and speed matters, and, how vast the difference in talent between the men and women is.
+Tetrahedragon2 goaltending is the exception. it's the most difficult position mentally, and i think women are perhaps better equipped to deal with that part of it than men (and i'm a guy who has played in net). i predict the first woman in the NHL will be a goalie.
apagoogoo She already was, although she only played exhibition games en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manon_Rh%C3%A9aume
apagoogoo Yes, goal tending is the exception, I'd love to see it personally, but I just think the physical demands and abilities of men still vastly out weigh that of women in that position too, to such an extent, that they'll never play there at the highest level either.
+apagoogoo what? Women are more equipped to deal with it mentally? Da fuck? Have you even seen how women act in emergency situations? They lose their shit! I work at an ER I see this day in and day out.
Women in the NHL is a terrible idea. First they wouldn't make it, there is no comparing women hockey players to NHL players, it's just a different level. Not to mention it wouldn't be fair to put the men in this situation, they would be walking on eggshells around the women because they wouldn't want to hurt them. Just awkward
i live in buffalo ny
I hear it's cold there.
LOL and now the National Women's Hockey League has imposed salary cuts!
It took 8 more years
Rather go pay to watch a Jr. A boys game or Jr. B, cause they are trying so hard to get into the CHL, they'll do anything to win.
The NWHL!!!!'
Better guy highschool teams
Isn't it funny how they copy the NHL unis?
This is no better than midget aaa lol and those games are freeeeeeeeee
Women's sports aren't as intense and exciting to watch as men's sports. There, I said it. Get triggered!
+NewCanadianTurtle Watching women's hockey is just like watching the NHL... in slow motion.
Boring as fuck!
Sure, but much like AHL games and other lower leagues, tickets are much cheaper. If you can get a big enough fanbase you can watch some live hockey in a fun atmosphere at a 1/10 the price of NHL seats.
BestChampify but no one watches women's hockey
This line is so tired and boring. Nobody goes to watch women's sports, because no-one wants to watch them. It has zero to do with advertising, and funding. It has everything to do with personal taste.
I watched some of the Canadian university hockey championships in Calgary a couple of years ago. The men's and women's finals were both played in the same arena on the same day. Both games were on Sportsnet, and it's the CIS so advertising would have been the same for both games. This should be a good barometer of what people prefer to watch, because Canadian college sports are not real high on anyone's list of preferred entertainment choices. So presumably given equal footing, both games should have had roughly equal attendances. The men's game, while hardly being a sellout probably had 2000 people in the arena. The woman's game, had maybe 100 people.
There was actually a Women's Television Sports Network in Canada a number of years ago. No-one remembers it, because it was only on the air for about 6 months. At it's peak, it had about 500 viewers on average. Not even women want to watch women's sports. I'm sorry, but women's sports are at best a niche sport, but probably not even that. If you like watching women's sports, fine go ahead. However, don't think that any amount of funding, advertising, or television broadcasting is ever going to raise women's sports to the same level of popularity in the minds of sports fans as men's sports will.
If you keep wanting it to be like a mens game, that won't happen until the MEN who run hockey from the IOC down allow women to at the very least check. . Can't you enjoy it for what it is? I guess you don;t have that capacity. I look at motor sport...Formula 1 is like men's and NASCAR is like women's...two car races with different fan bases.
The reality should be that women play the same night as men, and the two games alternate. That would be such a show and couples and families would definitely get into it when they see the gender equality. It is Canadas national sport and the men bein famous is nooooottt fair.
Cry a river. WOMEN need to support it. Men don’t have to do ish. Men created the sport. Do your part and figure out how to make more money. Ur a strong, independent creature, aren’t you?