its probably the reason why mnet chose to debut the others lol i'm not complaining tho. i love the elegant concept but just thinking that iz*one would have such a mature concept SENDS ME
@@choiyewonsbangs Sis go listen to AYAYAYA it's IZ*ONE's girlcrush subunit's song and it slaps🔥 ruclips.net/video/V_T-qmCbhd8/видео.html Edit: watch in 4k for a better eyesight ruclips.net/video/M3yTpvQ-2RI/видео.html
I think they could still pull of the elegance from La Vie en Rose then they can just split them into twi sub units Girl Crush / Mature / Sexy: Gaeun Eunbi Chaeyon Sae Yunjin Miru Cute: Moe Nako-chan Hii-chan Miyu Sakura Wonyoung
Do you think that she will ever get long line as chaewon , she will get dance break like chaeyeon and chorus/ center like eunbi? No. Because they are more talented than her.
You know I'm pretty sure wonyoung is half-taiwanese or something like that but she really downplayed it because she knew it would hurt her votes which is kinda crazy
@@ohoohoi2878 I can see you like to make claims without evidence. If you're going off music show wins, will you say ChungHa was problematic before Gotta go's wins? Are all kpop groups who haven't won yet problematic? Don't make me laugh.
I like this lineup better because for me the whole point of this season was big collaboration with AKB48 so it was more obvious to IZ*ONE to have more Japanese than Korean members and Japanese girl should be center.
But taking “k-pop” into consideration and how its a “korean” show with “korean” voters, it’s more obvious that there would be more korean members in the group tbh
LOONA희진 nah, mnet said there would be an equal amount of Japanese and Korean members, for them to take that back is just plain BIASED and dirty. Although MNET reality shows have always been like that since he beginning so I’m not surprised .
lol lel exactly!! For heavens sake, even Twice has more international members than IZ*ONE - so much for an international collab if only three members are Japanese smh
They'd struggle to give her lines because she's not very good at Korean and she's the second worse singer in the group. I'm happy she's the center in Japan though
Same here. But Wonyoung is doing good even though she is still young. She is still learning from her unnies and will continue to be. I'm ok now that Sakura is not the center in IZ*ONE because I really love her part in every song they have. Imagine Sakura being the center and the lines that will be given to her. Her lines really suits her. Some became legendary.😊😊😊
I think Yunjin screwed up her chances tbh. Nako just recently charmed a lot of people after singing the high note in Love Whisper performance that she ranked so high. Yunjin then asked for another chance to get the main vocal position for ITNW even though Nako was already voted. Nako then just decided to give it up. I guess that left a bitter taste to people's mouth and she never got the momentum because of that.
Naw we won't @ you on this. We agree with you They Hate to see it. it was suppose to be 7 Japanese members and 5 Korean But they hate to see it SO THEY RIG THE SHIT
Why did Mnet choose Wonyoung to be center? Because she's the youngest. The whole of IZ*ONE's concept itself is coming-of-age and virginity. You can see their title track La Vie En Rose-VIOLETA-FIESTA, the songs is about virginity and how the young girls deal with growing ups. And as we know that the member-line is got robbed, that's why Mnet choose a members who fit the concept that I talking about before.
@@krasheenpearl6836 uhm lol no, if it is heo yunjin will surpass her immensely. Also she was nowhere in the line up since day 1. I was surprised with her and Chaewon. Though I like then in the group, it was just not right.
Mnet wants a cute girl who can sing, and there's only Jo Yuri. If based on talent, obviously Chowon, Heo Yunjin, or Park HaeYoon, but they're pretty and too fierce for IZ*ONE cutesy sexy (this weird AKB concept) material.
@@영기전-s7v sorry u may say she can sing but she CANT sing well I know lots of the yuri stans maybe mad but I'm just telling the truth I started watching produce48 without any biased because I knew none of them I never think jo yuri is a good singer,especially during the to reach you era I was extremely annoyed by go eun and her voice because they kept screaming to reach the F# note well in the last actually both of them couldn't reach that high note, even tho jo yuri is the one who sang the high note in the live stage, her note is lowered I'm not saying they are not good at singing tho I still dont understand why could someone's vocal who ranked 30 sth in idol school can be #3 and main vocalists in izone (I read this information afterwards) Well its mnet and it is a program > a real contest I'm just mad at mnet, they were playing with the Japanese trainees hope.....
@@Jmj0411 calm down. It's just my opinion. No need to write an essay just for a youtube comment. And I prefer Na Goeun too. Just like i said Mnet wanted a girl who "can sing" and Yuri sounds too husky like she smoke cigarettes 24pcs a day. I think we're on a same page.
To be honest though, what’s the point of calling it a Japanese-Korean group if they are only three Japanese members in a twelve member girl group??? lol
@@astreacosmix8410 The votes are obviously manipulated, think back how can yuri that didn’t get a lot of screen time and not the center went straight from 18 to 3rd place and kaeun not making in the group, miho dropping from 2 to 13th. These are all manipulated. I trust real ranking is I. Episode 11 that way there should be 7 Japanese member and 5 Korean.
@@ameliarose47 thats bc the ratio between Korean members and foreigners is 5:4, making it even. however, with iz*one, the ration between Korean members and Japanese members is 9:3, which is uneven. numbers that are 6 or at least close to it (5 or 7) would mean even.
Of course you can’t based the final lineup on fancams alone but I definitely think a lot of the japanese trainees,like Miru, were robbed. Though I do like IZone I think the final ranks of Jo Yuri as 3rd and Jang Wonyoung as 1st was a complete joke and a slap in the face to the viewers.
it was a joke! I watch PD48 bc of Sakura and Chaeyeon I was in shock she landed 12 I thought she was either 4 or 3 and Sakura is 1 but would never imagined sakura is 1 and Chaeyeon 12 like this is a joke. Also that fact that Lee Kaeun DIDN't Make it into Izone piss me off. She stood out to me sooo much when I watch PD48 like woah Her visual and dancing is better then the Current Leader of IzOne
@@baobanger chaeyeon definitely deserved winning, not Sakura. Sakura was popular but for me not skilled enough to win, she would be fine in the 12 place. Kaeun really deserved to debut, but I would say she is just as skilled and eunbi
Isabel Pro Rodríguez yeah I feel you but it isn’t about skill and everything it is about charms too. Sakura found her charms and she actually very talented
The positions would be: Sakura: Vocalist , Center, Visual Nako: Lead Vocalist Sae: Vocalist, Visual Chaeyeon: Main Dancer, Lead Rapper, Lead Vocalist Miru: Lead Dancer, Vocalist, Visual Miyu: Lead/Main Lead Vocalist Hitomi: Lead Dancer, Vocalist, Kaeun: Main Rapper, Lead/Main Dancer, Vocalist Wonyoung: Vocalist , Maknae Moe: Vocalist Yunjin: Main Vocalist Eunbi: Lead Vocalist , Main/Lead Dancer,
ik and chameleon and won young should've swapped, ik she's talented and all but chaeyeon is an all rounder, wonyoung only have her face she can't even like sing, rap or dance
@@edenoliver2005 I'm saying that chaeyeon can do basically everything and her voice suit with almost every song, whereas the people only chose her because of her cuteness. this is like with other members ini zone as well. Hyewon was picked cuz of her face, her skills are not very good (she has improved tho) but Gaeun should've debuted instead of her
Mio no, you literally dragged and shat on wonyoung. its fine to prefer chaeyeon, but dont bring down wonyoung. she doesnt have to be a god send singer to be good at singing. shes also an above average dancer. idk why youre shitting on her.
THEY GOT MESSED SHIROMA MIRU! SHE DESERVED MORE OF THIS HER GROUP IS WINNING BECAUSE OF HER :( IM SAD BECAUSE SHE DID NOT COME IT TO THE FINAL LINEUP :(
I honestly like this line up better because it's more diverse, we have 7 Japanese member and 5 Korean member, and for me that is more fair considering it is PD 48 and I have a feeling that this lineup would have been a better nation girl group
I agree with all of these but I think with more training Miyu could be a main vocal too and considering that japaneses back them learned korean training methods very fast this Izone would be insanely good.
I still hate the fact that people hated Yunjin because she wanted the high note part when she obviously did justice to it. Yunjin was the best vocalist in Produce 48, no doubt.
The fact that there's no Yuri or Yena in this line-up is the thing that drives me away.Yena is for the most part the winner of PD48,she can literally do anything
Mike Sim23 Yena would shine in Everglow either way. It's like people complain so much about Mia's lines, but there's a huge possibility that those were simply Yena lines that they gave to Mia for the sake of simplicity.
sakura is such a center !!! she’s really fit for it and every performance i watch of her in it she’s always one of the first people i keep my eye on because she’s a good center and is so pretty !!!!
Even though Sakura didnt have a lot of talent when singing on PD101, she got a confidence boost in IZ*ONE and she still deserved being 1st because of her amazing visuals.
I'm not surprised about our Kurachan at all. What shocked me was that she didn't get first for the final lineup. And if you noticed, most of the girls who didn't get into the final lineup gives out more of a mature vibe, who can also be cute like the current IZ*ONE.
Unrealistic lineup for IZ*ONE tbh cause most of the views for the individual cams are from outside of Korea. I quite like how IZ*ONE turned out except maybe Hyewon being a part of the top 12. She kinda feels like a Minju 2.0 but with less stage presence. I'm glad though that Hyewon's been improving and her lines in Violeta are ICONIC :) Also I kinda felt that Kaeun wouldn't make it to top 12 cause I couldn't imagine Wonyoung, Yujin, and Nako (all 3 basically guaranteed top 12) standing on the same stage together :/
The thing is the lineup is realsitic because they should have had voting open for other countries because they called it INTERNATIONAL, votes from other people (like ahem Japan) would have changed the outcome 100%
So if you want to talk about korean cam view, miu will definitely debut because she have the highest view on naver(korea platform). She also beat sakura view on naver but she fail to debut. One word i can say all mnet show is fake because they already have trainee they want to debut. But it turn out the debut group is successful anyway. So it a win2 situation for mnet.
@@ariannaharley11 they already tried international voting with the second season and that didn't turn out so well since it was always hacked a lot of times and Chinese vote buying so there not doing international voting ever again
@@asfikri3183 You can really tell how this show is rigged. Mnet gave Sakura an A but her performance was a C at the highest, not hating on her but she didn't deserve that A, and we never saw her re-evaluation performance, I'd like to see how she retained her gifted A rank. Jurina performed better than her but got a B. Starship trainees got a B, but their performance was miles ahead than that of Sakura's. You can tell how they favored Sakura from the second episode. This is not hating on her but just stating facts. I expected her to get in the final lineup but there's so much more Japanese trainees that showed how much better they are than Sakura. Nako and Hitomi really shined during the show and they deserve their spot. Aoi, Sae, Miu, Miyu, Juri, Miru, Miho all deserved a spot in the lineup more than Sakura. The actual lineup of IZ*ONE is the one I expected it to be, maybe Kwangbae can be replaced by Chowon for more vocal prowess but I guess they needed a Sohye in the group so she takes that spot.
@@screamingtroy huh..we never saw her revaluation performance your ass! we saw her revaluation performance..she did well..she managed to dance and learn both language AND show her expression..she retained her A and it was well deserved..many in A forgot lyrics and didnt sing halfway so they dropped like a rock..did u even watch the show😂😂😂
My line up. Seriously i cried when gaeun didnt make it 1. Sakura 2. Chaeyeon 3. Nako 4. Gaeun 5. Yunjin 6. Yujin 7. Hitomi 8. Miru 9. Minju 10. Gyuri 11. Juri 12. Yuri
but for real tho, we all know why sakura wasn't center because knetz wouldve gone full mad if a japanese become center and more japanese member than korean on the group.
IZ*ONE Sakura has a it star factor. She can draw your attention to her without even being in the front. They always use her as clickbait because they know that she attract. Literally on the comments there’s always people saying « i don’t stan but that girl in the thumbnail is so eye-catching ! » and that’s true! Sakura is not the most talented but she keeps giving her best and improving while being born with that it factor. I’m not saying Wonyoung is not talented, but she couldn’t even beat Miru in the first place. Sometimes she tries too hard to be cute. And yeah she is talented but she doesn’t have what it takes to be a center like Sakura or Yiren (Everglow), Heejin (Loona) even Minju could be a better center. But Honestly it’s been old and she’s been improving. We are okay with the actual line up but it‘s a fact that Sakura is the best center. In the Nekkoya cover Sakura just stand there smiling and it was so powerful ! While Wonyoung was juste giving Heart and winking in the camera but it didn’t have the same impact. But again i love both girls and i can totally see the improvent in the actual Fiesta Wonyoung compared to the La vie En Rose Wonyoung or Violeta Wonyoung. Sorry for my bad english!
Lowkey feel like this group would have done amazing, but as much as i hate it chaewon, minju, yena, yujin, hyewon, and yuri grew on me and tbh i like this izone alot, however i would have loved miyu and sae to make it
There's just so much great content around those 6 girls. 2kim, Jinjoo, Yenyul, HyeYul, Joyuriz, Minjugatooo and a lot more. We also won't have "Turn on the 2 gas pumps and the main breaker to restart the generator" and that is tragic lmao
I mean Minju and Hyewon could easily be replaced by Sae, Miru, Miyu u named it. Plus more Japanese members will add the balance on Izone lineups considering the entire show is based on a collaboration with a Japanese company
선미강 Yeah, she deserved it. But I personally think there’s also more talented girls out there who also deserved the center. I’m not saying that she doesn’t deserve the title, but there are also more talented girls out there who are very underrated. She’s good at dancing but I personally think that her voice still needs to improve and be mature. Her voice is still too childish or so much cutesy when singing. Again, I’m not a hater.
Most of them are popular in Japan and worldwide so it's no surprise the Japanese trainees have more views. I'm very happy with the current version of IZONE, in fact they're doing numbers.
Yeah when pd48 started I found it really unfair that the unknown Korean trainees should compete against the already known Japanese idols that had really many fans I think that's the only reason that the second bombaya team won, because they had more fans in the crowd (I still love the Japanese girls but I think the Korean girls were more talented)
brian that’s only Yunjin, Chaeyeon and Eunbi (Meh I won’t add Miyu cuz the ones I mentioned below is better than her actually). While the current IZ*ONE got Yuri, Chaeyeon, Eunbi, Yena, Yujin and Chaewon. And the weak links would have been Sae, Moe and Sakura Today’s weak links are Hyewon, Sakura and Minju. Well but all three of them are improving steadily that I’m feeling so proud of them as a WIZ*ONE lol. Besides, Minju wrote Really Like You with Hitomi and another writer as well. I also heard she’s the one who adapted Neko ni Naritai to korean Ver.
Richard Xaviery ... what do u mean by “unknown one” lol. And nah this vid ain’t about that, pretty sure it’s just about the total views each trainee gets that determines their ranking. If it’s about dark horses predicted to make it into the rankings, trust me, Sae won’t make it.
i love the izone lineup and all the members, but this lineup has my top 3 girls (sakura, yunjin, miyu) so i wouldve loved for these members to debut together too
My guesses for positions: Kwon Eunbi: Leader, Main Dancer, Lead Vocalist Heo Yunjin: Main Vocalist Goto Moe: Lead Dancer, Sub-Vocalist, Visual Jang Wonyoung: Lead Dancer, Lead Rapper, Sub-Vocalist, Maknae Lee Kaeun: Main Rapper, Lead Dancer, Vocalist Honda Hitomi: Lead Dancer, Vocalist, Sub-Rapper Takeuchi Miyu: Main Vocalist Shiroma Miru: Visual, Vocalist Lee Chaeyeon: Main Dancer(Obviously), Lead Rapper, Lead Vocalist Murase Sae: Lead Dancer, Visual, Sub Vocalist, Yabuki Nako: Lead Vocalist Miyawaki Sakura: Center, FOTG, Lead Rapper, Sub-Vocalist, Visual
When this show started I was expecting for 6 Japanese and 6 Koreans to debut, but at the end this is just other Korean Group with 3 Japanese members (when 2 of them are underrated with a poor screen time and lines in the songs). The actual line up was controversial for a lot of things, ChaeWon never get into the line and at the final episode she entered, suspicious. I'm still thinking how is it possible that Lee Ka Eun (who was positioned as number 1 a lot of time) didn't enter. Well, PD48 was just a joke and even when IZ*ONE is a good group is just that a Korean Group with 3 Japanese members and not global girl group as they said at the beginning.
The lawsuit proved that (and the guy who was in charge admitted) that all the rankings were altered BUT the composition is correct. There are theories that Chaeyeon for example was only placed 12 to add drama (for obvious reasons). And there’s a good chance that Sakura should’ve gotten first but they probably just didn’t want a Japanese trainee being the center. 🤷🏻♀️ at least no one was cheated out of a spot on IZ*ONE
I don't know if I'm mistaken here as there might have been news on the case that I didn't catch up with, but last time I checked the final lineup of both PD48 and X101 were decided even before the shows' filming even begun
Cecilia Cavalcanti ive read multiple sources updating on the current positions and claims made and whatnot. The positions were only decided before the airing of the final episode, not before filming. He took sexual favours (amounting of a total of around 45,00 I believe) that was paid for from different companies in order to get their trainee to have more screen time (which influences voting). But, it was proven that every trainee who is on IZ*ONE was meant to be there, but their rankings were chosen for them, most of them at least. I forget the details but after it was “resolved” (I think there is still some things left to settle but Idk I haven’t bothered to check on updates ever since I learned the composition was correct) it was up to the companies of every member to decide if they wanted to continue with the group. The companies of X1 didn’t come to an agreement so they disbanded, but the companies for IZ*ONE did. That’s as much as I know and I’m pretty sure the details of the agreement included keeping the current rankings although I’m not sure. If you do find out more information lmk!
@@matheab5864 What I've learnt is a little different from yours that Mnet did not even count the voting result on the final broadcast night as they had already chosen the member before final... (Some KR articles do said that the result was actually settled before the show where the amount of on-screen time would be changed and thus affect a lot on the result too. But of course, Ahn Jun Young is not gonna admit it even if this is true.) While learning from past experience, assuming the previous 2 seasons did not involve cheating, final broadcast voting can change quite a lot on the result, especially when they announced who's currently at position 11 and may fall out of the debut team... So, I would say it's hard to say whether the present members are meant to be there. But what we all know now is that Mnet is not gonna announce the real result as they claimed that they did not actually have that... 🤦🏻♀️ So whoever's gonna support, enjoy! And whoever feel uncomfortable with it, don't ever attack the members but Mnet and let it go... :)
Candy Chan I got most of my information from Wikipedia here’s the link en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnet_vote_manipulation_investigation . They cited many, many sources but I believe nearly all of them were Korean. Basically, once Ahn was arrested, after questioning he admitted to changing the rankings. And in December all defendants, including him admitted it again but requested a closed trial afterwards to disclose the names of the trainees involved. So it’s not clear who because of all the legal stuff but the police released information that they could. What was also revealed is that the rankings for the top 20 trainees were predetermined before the final performances were recorded and broadcasted. The following i think is only derived as similarities to what happened with X1. Ahn and Kim (Vice President of Starship) met up in August before the live finale to determine the 12 members based on pre-finale votes. They switched the ranking of one person but it wasn’t made clear if that ranking determined a trainee’s chance to debut or their ranking in the group. I also think some evidence was destroyed? Or they at least attempted to, that’s why there’s a lot more specific information on what happened with X1 and not IZ*ONE. Also, eliminated trainees were fairly compensated, the ones who didn’t get to debut or were given a bad shot I guess. Oh and Ahn admitted that the rankings were also tampered in all seasons, just very minimal in the first two. Soooo I think generally, for IZ*ONE, there’s a possibility that someone didn’t get to debut and that some rankings and positions were predetermined. But I feel like that’s why IZ*ONE was able to continue and not disband, plus they were already successful. Honestly, it’s just a good thing that Mnet is banned from making audition programs now. Although good things can come from them, it’s clear that a lot of dirty work comes to play. Tbh I only really got into IZ*ONE after learning that the composition was most likely true. I think it’s unfair to support a group that cheated some girls out of a debut. Hopefully more reliable information surfaces but I feel like at this point, especially with their recent comeback, it’ll hardly effect IZ*ONE. If you have more information lmk :)
@@matheab5864 Yup, basically what I want to clarify is on the point that no one actually knows whether the members are to be there only with their rankings changed especially when that's decided before final broadcasting as I remember live voting counts more than prevotes (like each vote was equal to 7 votes in season 2). I also read kr news that Ahn actually claimed that some companies didn't want their trainees to get into the debut team too so it's just a really complicated thing. (People suggested that Pledis didn't want Gaeun to get in because their contract with Gaeun was going to end soon by that time. And people also suggested that Miru has to stay in NMB48 for her team as she is really important there so even when her results shine throughout the whole programme, she ranked the last among 20 girls ORZ.) But well, no one can get to know about the truth as they may not have the proof and they would not announce anything from investigation. I was not really following Produce 101 season 3 that close back then as I have had really bad experience as a season 2 audience already😂 but I heard from my friends who were season 3 followers and read some comments from korea forums that night that some part of the result did surprised them quite a lot. But as mentioned, maybe that's a result from discussions among companies but not only Mnet so it's just not a fair game from the beginning and no matter the companies or Mnet, they are all treating the girls and boys' dream as a game and to make the show for money🤦🏻♀️. So the punishment should of coz only be done to Mnet and the companies. I'm not a WIZ*ONE tbh but I honestly enjoy their performance and like a few members who did not show their face in this video. It is just a bit sad that the chance of eliminating some girls from debut team still exists that from my own point of view, I would not be able to be fully supportive... but I would say all trainees are good and worth supporting and we can all see IZ*ONE has really amazing results! I think it is not sth unfair to support the group and the girls as they are also the victims from the whole event, like they did not know anything too! So, really, if you like them, just enjoy to the greatest extend!
Postions: (i guess?) 12: Kwon Eunbi - Main Dancer, lead vocalist, leader 11: Heo Yunjin - Main vocalist 10: Goto Moe - Vocalist, dancer, FOTG 9: Jang Wonyoung - Vocalist, lead dancer, rapper, maknae(?) 8: Lee Kaeun - Lead rapper, lead dancer, vocalist, visual 7: Honda Hitomi - Lead dancer, vocalist 6: Takeuchi Miyu - Main vocalist 5: Shiroma Miru - Lead dancer, vocalist, rapper 4: Lee Chaeyeon - Main dancer, main rapper, lead vocalist 3: Murase Sae - Lead dancer, lead vocalist 2: Yabuki Nako - Lead vocalist 1: Miyawaki Sakura - Vocalist, rapper, center, visual
I believe ppl loves watching Sakura's video because she is so pleasing in the eyes. In the recent comeback's of Izone they always put Sakura at the back I guess for us to look at other girls also but Sakura has this aura in her that you will automatically look for her or see her right away, I guess a thing that not everyone posses only few Kpop group center that do have it, well Yoona si Korea's Nations Center so it speaks well but aside her Krystal has it too but in general Center changes but really few people just have it in them to stole spotlight without any effort at all
I KNOW ME TOOOOOOO :( I watched this show for Sakura and Lee Chaeyeon But Lee Kaeun stood out to me as soon as I saw her. Her visual and dancing skill stood out soooo quick to me.
I don't really understand why people would say they prefered this line up. this cam is only based on views so it made no sense to win. its like winning by wrong clicks or curiousity. Also, IZONE members now deserved their places and have proven it with their awesome albums. you must not look at them individually but how they will look like as a group.
Iz*one is already a global girl group. They have the best sales of a japan rookie ( over 600k albums sold in japan alone from just 2 singles) and overall do better than any other rookie gg by light years. Just because you got so views in America means nothing since International fans won’t be the ones buying the albums.
Welcome To Your Tape yes izone just rockie girlgrup, and that amazing but remember Izone just 2.5 years before disband. I hope Izone more popular in the future. for me now, I prefer the real global girl grup blackpink or twice. global boy grup bts.
She should've been #1st tbh and I will always forever prefer her than Wonyoung BUT she is Japanese and she will debut in Korea, she will get a lot of hate if she become the center of the group, it is much more safe just like the way they are now
@@daisyandsunflower6945 Wonyoung fit IZ*ONE center more than Sakura.For me,Minju is the visual of IZ*ONE.Im not fond of Sakura.Personal preference i guess.
Yujin, minjoo, yuri, yena, hyewon and chaewon are the ones who didnt make it if it was done properly by Mnet. I must say that i would be sad if Yujin, Chaewon and Minjoo were missing 🥺
Kwon Eunbi (12): Main dancer, lead vocalist, leader Heo Yunjin (11): Main vocalist, visual Goto Moe (10): Lead dancer, vocalist Jang Wonyoung (9): Lead dancer, vocalist, rapper, visual Lee Kaeun (8): Lead dancer, lead rapper, vocalist, visual Honda Hitomi (7): Lead dancer, vocalist Takeuchi Miyu (6): Lead vocalist, dancer Shiroma Miru (5): Main dancer, vocalist, rapper Lee Chayeon (4): Main dancer, Main rapper, lead vocalist Murase Sae (3): Lead dancer(can be main dancer at times aswell), vocalist Yabuki Nako (2): Lead vocalist, fotg Miyawaki Sakura (1): Vocalist, rapper, visual, center
This just proves that the actual lineup did Chaeyeon dirty.
svt's mom agree
still bitter about that, well jokes on them chaeyeon turn out to be popular more than the other girls above her in ranking
I don’t think so because her last ranking was 3 so high that made her voters not panic BUT YAH SHE DESERVED THE HIGHER RANK
Bruh what? At least she debuted.
At least she debuted. You all forgot about kaeun?
Miru who got 1st position in "very very very", "side to side" and "rollin rollin" but end up at place 20th. Oh ok mnet im done :)
IKR???
She had a right wing controversy prior to that...
and Lee Kaeun the one who never out of top 12 but end up wasn't able to debut ok I'm fine :)
I feel sad for her ..
They didn't want the group to have too much Japanese idols :(
This version of IZ*One would have much more of a mature, sexy or/and dark image than the one we have.
its probably the reason why mnet chose to debut the others lol i'm not complaining tho. i love the elegant concept but just thinking that iz*one would have such a mature concept SENDS ME
Yeah with a shitty Korean pronounciation, 85% lines going to Korean trainees. And bunch of less talented nasal vocal from the Japanese.
@@choiyewonsbangs
Sis go listen to AYAYAYA it's IZ*ONE's girlcrush subunit's song and it slaps🔥
ruclips.net/video/V_T-qmCbhd8/видео.html
Edit: watch in 4k for a better eyesight ruclips.net/video/M3yTpvQ-2RI/видео.html
@@txt-908 stream Queen Sakura for clear skin
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I think they could still pull of the elegance from La Vie en Rose then they can just split them into twi sub units
Girl Crush / Mature / Sexy:
Gaeun
Eunbi
Chaeyon
Sae
Yunjin
Miru
Cute:
Moe
Nako-chan
Hii-chan
Miyu
Sakura
Wonyoung
Nako was shinig in P48
She's so underrated with izone I'm so mad
Even with her rank, she doesn't get what she deserves and worse than those bellow her, this is saddd
Yuram Covers. Same :(
Do you think that she will ever get long line as chaewon , she will get dance break like chaeyeon and chorus/ center like eunbi? No. Because they are more talented than her.
Im sad too. Nako in PD 48 was one of the most popular
positive vibe For a person with a POSITIVE VIBE on his name, you sure give hate comments to the Japanese so much
sakura was definitely the most "viral" member of pd48!!
And sae! With 0 screentime but managed to be THAT famous ugh stan
@@atsuki18 she have a lot of screentime
@@moonlight-fo6cp lmao she didnt
@@atsuki18 yes she have a lot because she was pick me center
@@moonlight-fo6cp huh sakura was the center for nekkoya not sae lmao you dont even know her
MY 2 PLEDIS GIRLS GOT ROBBED LIKE SRSLY, THIS IS THE TRUE LINEUP BUT OKAY. WE ALR HAVE IZONE
like ok im so bitter back then bcs of my kirinchan🙄
Shitty Mnet Indeed
😢😢 Lee Kaeun
its not the true line lineup but o well i guess😂
@@mintchoco9519 partially 🤣 but i do think that they robbed the japanese trainees too like biased picking
I feel like they placed Sakura 1 rank lower because knetz would not be able to handle the fact that a foreigner won #1
You know I'm pretty sure wonyoung is half-taiwanese or something like that but she really downplayed it because she knew it would hurt her votes which is kinda crazy
@@kavya8545 knetz are kind of fine with half-koreans but i find it messed up that ethnicity could damage reputation ://
@@vaniimi nope. Korean is not fine with half korean. For example Somi was hated by knetz due to being a half korean and half dutch/canadian?
@@kavya8545 she's half taiwanese? i didn't know that.
@@ohoohoi2878 I can see you like to make claims without evidence. If you're going off music show wins, will you say ChungHa was problematic before Gotta go's wins? Are all kpop groups who haven't won yet problematic? Don't make me laugh.
I like this lineup better because for me the whole point of this season was big collaboration with AKB48 so it was more obvious to IZ*ONE to have more Japanese than Korean members and Japanese girl should be center.
But taking “k-pop” into consideration and how its a “korean” show with “korean” voters, it’s more obvious that there would be more korean members in the group tbh
LOONA희진 nah, mnet said there would be an equal amount of Japanese and Korean members, for them to take that back is just plain BIASED and dirty. Although MNET reality shows have always been like that since he beginning so I’m not surprised .
Japanese should be center? The worst idea
Rayhan you being alive and wasting space on earth? The worst idea.
@@Irene-vs5kt people can't arguing can only talking nonsense~
7 japanese 5 koreans *THIS SHOULD BE NATIONS GIRL GROUP LOL*
lol lel exactly!! For heavens sake, even Twice has more international members than IZ*ONE - so much for an international collab if only three members are Japanese smh
lol lel just to let you know 7+6 is 13.......
@@zhoushengchen8459 okayy hsicdhxjfkdnxjx
@@zhoushengchen8459 wait what 6 i thought there were only five¿
Hey 3 japanese 9 koreans
Japanese : sakura, Hitomi, Nako
Koreans : Yena, Eunbi, wonyoung, Yuri, Yujin, Chaewon, Chaeyeon, Minju, Hyewon
Wow so many Japanese contestants were popular, sad only 3 made it to izone
they would never let 7 Japanese and 5 Korean.
@@baobanger they r trash indeed.
I really wanted Sakura as center cause she has this whole aura to her, like she can honestly just stand there and I'd be crying
They'd struggle to give her lines because she's not very good at Korean and she's the second worse singer in the group. I'm happy she's the center in Japan though
Same here. But Wonyoung is doing good even though she is still young. She is still learning from her unnies and will continue to be. I'm ok now that Sakura is not the center in IZ*ONE because I really love her part in every song they have. Imagine Sakura being the center and the lines that will be given to her. Her lines really suits her. Some became legendary.😊😊😊
@@harae38you're satisfied with her lines until you find out that she sings the least in the entire album. Heart*iz atleast
She just want.
Vivi Ki. Center doesn't have to have a lot of line.
Sakura is the real no. 1. but of course mnet/korean wouldnt want jpanese girl won and become the center of nation's pick.
Agreeee
Agree i didn't find it fair on sakura and chaeyeon sakura will firever be the real number 1 and chaeyeon number 2
Yes
We all knew sakura was the most popular but WOW THOSE NUMBERS
tbh i feel like they did yunjin so dirty. that girl had an amazing voice and she deserved to debut.
edit: i LOVED takeuchi miyu so much omg im so sad
I think Yunjin screwed up her chances tbh. Nako just recently charmed a lot of people after singing the high note in Love Whisper performance that she ranked so high. Yunjin then asked for another chance to get the main vocal position for ITNW even though Nako was already voted. Nako then just decided to give it up. I guess that left a bitter taste to people's mouth and she never got the momentum because of that.
Sakura is the true nation’s center along with Somi and Daniel. Knetz just couldn’t handle a Japanese winning the show.
Don’t even @ me on this.
Naw we won't @ you on this. We agree with you They Hate to see it. it was suppose to be 7 Japanese members and 5 Korean But they hate to see it SO THEY RIG THE SHIT
Why did Mnet choose Wonyoung to be center? Because she's the youngest. The whole of IZ*ONE's concept itself is coming-of-age and virginity. You can see their title track La Vie En Rose-VIOLETA-FIESTA, the songs is about virginity and how the young girls deal with growing ups. And as we know that the member-line is got robbed, that's why Mnet choose a members who fit the concept that I talking about before.
Produce 101 Season 1 and 2 were rigged as well...
@@octo-pops yeah
@@fauraziakbar9935 that might be the case, but it doesn't matter because Sakura looks just as young as Wonyoung (if not younger)
Takeuchi miyu deserves it badly legit she suits it more
Trueeeee, mnet literally kills her dreams
if you know how much i hate mnet of rigging this show
@@gowonshealthyscalp2127 MNET was only the network that aired the show. The creators and agencies were the ones that rigged it.
Now I understand why jo yuris position was so controversial, but then again it's mnet.
It was based on talents dear 😉
@@krasheenpearl6836 uhm lol no, if it is heo yunjin will surpass her immensely. Also she was nowhere in the line up since day 1. I was surprised with her and Chaewon. Though I like then in the group, it was just not right.
Mnet wants a cute girl who can sing, and there's only Jo Yuri. If based on talent, obviously Chowon, Heo Yunjin, or Park HaeYoon, but they're pretty and too fierce for IZ*ONE cutesy sexy (this weird AKB concept) material.
@@영기전-s7v sorry u may say she can sing but she CANT sing well
I know lots of the yuri stans maybe mad but I'm just telling the truth
I started watching produce48 without any biased because I knew none of them
I never think jo yuri is a good singer,especially during the to reach you era
I was extremely annoyed by go eun and her voice because they kept screaming to reach the F# note
well in the last actually both of them couldn't reach that high note, even tho jo yuri is the one who sang the high note in the live stage, her note is lowered
I'm not saying they are not good at singing tho
I still dont understand why could someone's vocal who ranked 30 sth in idol school can be #3 and main vocalists in izone (I read this information afterwards)
Well its mnet and it is a program > a real contest
I'm just mad at mnet, they were playing with the Japanese trainees hope.....
@@Jmj0411 calm down. It's just my opinion. No need to write an essay just for a youtube comment.
And I prefer Na Goeun too. Just like i said Mnet wanted a girl who "can sing" and Yuri sounds too husky like she smoke cigarettes 24pcs a day. I think we're on a same page.
If this was the line up. I think I would Stan iz*one so much that I would buy their albums . But no. :
If you dont like now izone line up just dont stan, just stan your "best" trainee
dont worry, Izone's albums are selling out fine without you.
It's alright we don't need you in our fandom either They're slaying the sales without you so yeah you're insignificant
These rude replies I can’t 😂
@@Likelyfairy true such a immature
Heo yunjin and lee kaeun SHOULD have debuted. Our pledis girls thrived.
Sakura got 8 million 😂 the gap is sexy
the fact sakura had a yt account and 500ksub is no joke
To be honest though, what’s the point of calling it a Japanese-Korean group if they are only three Japanese members in a twelve member girl group??? lol
@arai Or even a 5:7 or 7:5 ratio would still work.
@@astreacosmix8410 The votes are obviously manipulated, think back how can yuri that didn’t get a lot of screen time and not the center went straight from 18 to 3rd place and kaeun not making in the group, miho dropping from 2 to 13th. These are all manipulated. I trust real ranking is I. Episode 11 that way there should be 7 Japanese member and 5 Korean.
@@Sky-rb1sh true
Twice is a 3/9 Japanese plus Tzuyu from Taiwan. At that rate Twice is also a Japanese-Korean group!
@@ameliarose47 thats bc the ratio between Korean members and foreigners is 5:4, making it even. however, with iz*one, the ration between Korean members and Japanese members is 9:3, which is uneven. numbers that are 6 or at least close to it (5 or 7) would mean even.
Of course you can’t based the final lineup on fancams alone but I definitely think a lot of the japanese trainees,like Miru, were robbed. Though I do like IZone I think the final ranks of Jo Yuri as 3rd and Jang Wonyoung as 1st was a complete joke and a slap in the face to the viewers.
i'm still sad that chaeyeon got 12th place ;u;
it was a joke! I watch PD48 bc of Sakura and Chaeyeon I was in shock she landed 12 I thought she was either 4 or 3 and Sakura is 1 but would never imagined sakura is 1 and Chaeyeon 12 like this is a joke. Also that fact that Lee Kaeun DIDN't Make it into Izone piss me off. She stood out to me sooo much when I watch PD48 like woah Her visual and dancing is better then the Current Leader of IzOne
@@baobanger chaeyeon definitely deserved winning, not Sakura. Sakura was popular but for me not skilled enough to win, she would be fine in the 12 place. Kaeun really deserved to debut, but I would say she is just as skilled and eunbi
Isabel Pro Rodríguez yeah I feel you but it isn’t about skill and everything it is about charms too. Sakura found her charms and she actually very talented
@@baobanger Yeah that's what made her center material. But I honestly found wonyoung more charming to be honest
Don't get me wrong I like IZ*ONE but stanning the group always feels kinda unfair and wrong when you see all the other amazing contestants.
For real, seeing this video made me realise how many people were affected by the vote rigging
at least...Chaekura is still here and it's fine for me
The positions would be:
Sakura: Vocalist , Center, Visual
Nako: Lead Vocalist
Sae: Vocalist, Visual
Chaeyeon: Main Dancer, Lead Rapper, Lead Vocalist
Miru: Lead Dancer, Vocalist, Visual
Miyu: Lead/Main Lead Vocalist
Hitomi: Lead Dancer, Vocalist,
Kaeun: Main Rapper, Lead/Main Dancer, Vocalist
Wonyoung: Vocalist , Maknae
Moe: Vocalist
Yunjin: Main Vocalist
Eunbi: Lead Vocalist , Main/Lead Dancer,
Sae is more of a visual than anything
Lol okay now i know this is not going to work lmao
Sae Miru and sakura should be the visuals in this case
Lowkey feel like this would be a amazing lineup
I kinda wanted to see jurina.
I know Sakura will be the #1 because she's already popular♡
Yeah she is also talented😊
Not just already popular but Become more popular
She already popular even before pd48 right?
lmao what if this was THE ACTUAL lineup and mnet just snaked their way around it again. IN MY OPINION Sakura should have won.
ik and chameleon and won young should've swapped, ik she's talented and all but chaeyeon is an all rounder, wonyoung only have her face she can't even like sing, rap or dance
Mio seems like someone hasnt ever taken a vocal or dance class
@@edenoliver2005 I'm saying that chaeyeon can do basically everything and her voice suit with almost every song, whereas the people only chose her because of her cuteness. this is like with other members ini zone as well. Hyewon was picked cuz of her face, her skills are not very good (she has improved tho) but Gaeun should've debuted instead of her
Mio no, you literally dragged and shat on wonyoung. its fine to prefer chaeyeon, but dont bring down wonyoung. she doesnt have to be a god send singer to be good at singing. shes also an above average dancer. idk why youre shitting on her.
@@edenoliver2005 I'm saying what right, I'm not the only that think she shouldn't come 1st, she only go there because of her looks
THEY GOT MESSED SHIROMA MIRU! SHE DESERVED MORE OF THIS HER GROUP IS WINNING BECAUSE OF HER :( IM SAD BECAUSE SHE DID NOT COME IT TO THE FINAL LINEUP :(
I honestly like this line up better because it's more diverse, we have 7 Japanese member and 5 Korean member, and for me that is more fair considering it is PD 48 and I have a feeling that this lineup would have been a better nation girl group
The line-up's great, but I can't imagine IZ*ONE with this line-up.
yea...
well they will prob find a song that will suit all of them, but me i think all of them can fit cute and girlcrush concept (like chungha) sooo
whippedforyujin well duh because you haven’t seen this lineup- no one can ever imagine things to their full potential without actually seeing it
@@caitlinmah-soeung8486 That's right, that's why I said "I can't imagine IZ*ONE with this lineup."
they would have to have a different name
This lineup is more realistic although chowon still aint on here 😔
Postion for fancam TOP 12:
1. Sakura (Center)
2. Nako (Lead Vocal 3)
3. Sae (Sub vocal, Dancer)
4. Chaeyeon (Main dancer 1, Lead Vocal 1)
5. Miru (Lead dancer, Sub vocal)
6. Miyu (Lead Vocal 2)
7. Hitomi (Lead dancer, Sub vocal)
8. Kaeun (Leader, Lead dancer, Main rapper)
9. Wonyoung (Dancer, Sub vocal, Sub rapper)
10. Moe (Dancer, Sub vocal)
11. Yunjin (Main vocal 1)
12. Eunbi (Main dancer 2, Main vocal 2)
I agree with all of these but I think with more training Miyu could be a main vocal too and considering that japaneses back them learned korean training methods very fast this Izone would be insanely good.
sakura is better for the center position. no hate
I dont think
@@ggstan2439
im wonyoung biased but i think sakura would have been a better center . wonyoung deserves fotg and visual more
@@gmmklhh i don't think sakura suit be a center . Look at vampire i can't felt sakura center aura
Sorry my bad english
@@mikasa2682 sakura center saved vampire for me . we all have different opinions , but now lets just love wonyoung as center
facts just facts
I didn’t even watch the show but i still see Sakura as center for some reasen, she’s really captivating
Sakura and Nako's Nekkoya fancam count surpassed Eunbi's whole fancam count lmao
Why am I so much happier with this lineup?? (NO HATE AT ALL TO IZ*ONE RIGHT NOW I JUST PREFER THIS LINEUP)
ME TOOOOOO
I still hate the fact that people hated Yunjin because she wanted the high note part when she obviously did justice to it. Yunjin was the best vocalist in Produce 48, no doubt.
Park Haeyoon joined the conversation
@@elishachua6263 yunjin is better than haeyoon..imo..she straining sometimes
@@shayry5724 even wendy yuju jihyo need some training
agree
Yes, technically speaking, she's the best.
6/12 actual IZONE members made it in this ver. 9/12 made it into the top 20 entirely. The numbers really do speak for themselves.
The fact that there's no Yuri or Yena in this line-up is the thing that drives me away.Yena is for the most part the winner of PD48,she can literally do anything
Mike Sim23 Yena would shine in Everglow either way. It's like people complain so much about Mia's lines, but there's a huge possibility that those were simply Yena lines that they gave to Mia for the sake of simplicity.
@@abutterfly1351 Shes most definitely gonna be in everglow and im so happy my baby is getting what she deserves ☺☺
A butterfly I’m happy she’ll take most of Mia’s line, even though I’m Mia bias. It still won’t change the fact that Onda has barely any lines
Yena had so many fansites so they did work for her very hard, they were giving good prizes for the ones who actually spend money for the votes
An IZ*ONE without YenYul? No Joyuriz too. Truly a dark timeline
Yunjin is enough as main vocal for this imaginary line-up xD
But I think, Shitao Miu deserved to debut :|
Im proud with our jline izone... popular with both kfans and ifans..
Sakura is really amazing
Sakura as center and Nako as 2nd center would've changed my life
It's obvious that Sakura don't won the first place because, nobody don't want a Japanese trainee to win a Korean TV show
sakura is such a center !!! she’s really fit for it and every performance i watch of her in it she’s always one of the first people i keep my eye on because she’s a good center and is so pretty !!!!
ohmygod i stan iz*one now but i would definitely stan THIS iz*one
Even though Sakura didnt have a lot of talent when singing on PD101, she got a confidence boost in IZ*ONE and she still deserved being 1st because of her amazing visuals.
I'm not surprised about our Kurachan at all. What shocked me was that she didn't get first for the final lineup. And if you noticed, most of the girls who didn't get into the final lineup gives out more of a mature vibe, who can also be cute like the current IZ*ONE.
I can feel the power of this line up...
Unrealistic lineup for IZ*ONE tbh cause most of the views for the individual cams are from outside of Korea.
I quite like how IZ*ONE turned out except maybe Hyewon being a part of the top 12. She kinda feels like a Minju 2.0 but with less stage presence. I'm glad though that Hyewon's been improving and her lines in Violeta are ICONIC :)
Also I kinda felt that Kaeun wouldn't make it to top 12 cause I couldn't imagine Wonyoung, Yujin, and Nako (all 3 basically guaranteed top 12) standing on the same stage together :/
The thing is the lineup is realsitic because they should have had voting open for other countries because they called it INTERNATIONAL, votes from other people (like ahem Japan) would have changed the outcome 100%
So if you want to talk about korean cam view, miu will definitely debut because she have the highest view on naver(korea platform). She also beat sakura view on naver but she fail to debut. One word i can say all mnet show is fake because they already have trainee they want to debut. But it turn out the debut group is successful anyway. So it a win2 situation for mnet.
@@ariannaharley11 they already tried international voting with the second season and that didn't turn out so well since it was always hacked a lot of times and Chinese vote buying so there not doing international voting ever again
@@asfikri3183 You can really tell how this show is rigged. Mnet gave Sakura an A but her performance was a C at the highest, not hating on her but she didn't deserve that A, and we never saw her re-evaluation performance, I'd like to see how she retained her gifted A rank. Jurina performed better than her but got a B. Starship trainees got a B, but their performance was miles ahead than that of Sakura's. You can tell how they favored Sakura from the second episode. This is not hating on her but just stating facts. I expected her to get in the final lineup but there's so much more Japanese trainees that showed how much better they are than Sakura. Nako and Hitomi really shined during the show and they deserve their spot. Aoi, Sae, Miu, Miyu, Juri, Miru, Miho all deserved a spot in the lineup more than Sakura. The actual lineup of IZ*ONE is the one I expected it to be, maybe Kwangbae can be replaced by Chowon for more vocal prowess but I guess they needed a Sohye in the group so she takes that spot.
@@screamingtroy huh..we never saw her revaluation performance your ass! we saw her revaluation performance..she did well..she managed to dance and learn both language AND show her expression..she retained her A and it was well deserved..many in A forgot lyrics and didnt sing halfway so they dropped like a rock..did u even watch the show😂😂😂
This is great not like the actual one! Proud of NAKO and SAKURA
My line up. Seriously i cried when gaeun didnt make it
1. Sakura
2. Chaeyeon
3. Nako
4. Gaeun
5. Yunjin
6. Yujin
7. Hitomi
8. Miru
9. Minju
10. Gyuri
11. Juri
12. Yuri
Well you're in for a shock......
but for real tho, we all know why sakura wasn't center because knetz wouldve gone full mad if a japanese become center and more japanese member than korean on the group.
I can't imagine iz*one without Yena, Yuri, Yujin and the others 😭
Sakuras stage presence is out of this world
We all knew who would be in the first place😂
My center😍
Yes
Wonyoung
@@ggstan2439 Yessss
SAKURAAA
@@nurkanaruzhan Wonyoung is better for center dor me :)
IZ*ONE
Sakura has a it star factor. She can draw your attention to her without even being in the front. They always use her as clickbait because they know that she attract. Literally on the comments there’s always people saying « i don’t stan but that girl in the thumbnail is so eye-catching ! » and that’s true! Sakura is not the most talented but she keeps giving her best and improving while being born with that it factor.
I’m not saying Wonyoung is not talented, but she couldn’t even beat Miru in the first place. Sometimes she tries too hard to be cute. And yeah she is talented but she doesn’t have what it takes to be a center like Sakura or Yiren (Everglow), Heejin (Loona) even Minju could be a better center.
But Honestly it’s been old and she’s been improving. We are okay with the actual line up but it‘s a fact that Sakura is the best center. In the Nekkoya cover Sakura just stand there smiling and it was so powerful ! While Wonyoung was juste giving Heart and winking in the camera but it didn’t have the same impact. But again i love both girls and i can totally see the improvent in the actual Fiesta Wonyoung compared to the La vie En Rose Wonyoung or Violeta Wonyoung.
Sorry for my bad english!
@@ggstan2439 nah its sakura for me even my brother said that saku should be the center
this is actually what I was expecting to be the top 12
Lowkey feel like this group would have done amazing, but as much as i hate it chaewon, minju, yena, yujin, hyewon, and yuri grew on me and tbh i like this izone alot, however i would have loved miyu and sae to make it
There's just so much great content around those 6 girls. 2kim, Jinjoo, Yenyul, HyeYul, Joyuriz, Minjugatooo and a lot more. We also won't have "Turn on the 2 gas pumps and the main breaker to restart the generator" and that is tragic lmao
I mean Minju and Hyewon could easily be replaced by Sae, Miru, Miyu u named it. Plus more Japanese members will add the balance on Izone lineups considering the entire show is based on a collaboration with a Japanese company
I couldnt fully supported izone because of hyewon, chaewon and yuri. Simply not a fan
I’m still so salty they put wonyoung in 1st. Sakura deserved it, tell me otherwise
Knetz prefer ‘cute’ than ‘swag and girl crush’...welp that’s what I observed since they did Chaeyeon dirty.
Okay, wonyoung deserves center
wonyoung nations center stay salty
선미강 Yeah, she deserved it. But I personally think there’s also more talented girls out there who also deserved the center. I’m not saying that she doesn’t deserve the title, but there are also more talented girls out there who are very underrated. She’s good at dancing but I personally think that her voice still needs to improve and be mature. Her voice is still too childish or so much cutesy when singing. Again, I’m not a hater.
@@juicyjisoox I you good points but I was referring to the comment.
sakura forever first in my heart
Most of them are popular in Japan and worldwide so it's no surprise the Japanese trainees have more views.
I'm very happy with the current version of IZONE, in fact they're doing numbers.
Yeah when pd48 started I found it really unfair that the unknown Korean trainees should compete against the already known Japanese idols that had really many fans
I think that's the only reason that the second bombaya team won, because they had more fans in the crowd (I still love the Japanese girls but I think the Korean girls were more talented)
Yea exactly
@@baosimaosi The world is always unfair, I see no point in keeping the argument
i don't see iz*one without yena lol
ye same
Dude this lineup is literally perfect
Miru on #5 i'm crying :( i wanted her to debut so much ..
I would like that line up. Sakura as center, there's yunjin and gaeun, but i really like yuri and yena. They are my favorite members actually.
The elite line up!!! No weak links. And the correct center.
Edit: I said what I said. Who mad STAY MAD.
Richard Xaviery lack of power vocals my ass lmao when there’s heo yunjin
Correct center? Wait...for what i think...Wonyoung is great for a center?
Richard Xaviery she was an opera singer.. she has the widest range out of all of them
brian that’s only Yunjin, Chaeyeon and Eunbi (Meh I won’t add Miyu cuz the ones I mentioned below is better than her actually). While the current IZ*ONE got Yuri, Chaeyeon, Eunbi, Yena, Yujin and Chaewon.
And the weak links would have been Sae, Moe and Sakura
Today’s weak links are Hyewon, Sakura and Minju. Well but all three of them are improving steadily that I’m feeling so proud of them as a WIZ*ONE lol. Besides, Minju wrote Really Like You with Hitomi and another writer as well. I also heard she’s the one who adapted Neko ni Naritai to korean Ver.
Richard Xaviery ... what do u mean by “unknown one” lol. And nah this vid ain’t about that, pretty sure it’s just about the total views each trainee gets that determines their ranking. If it’s about dark horses predicted to make it into the rankings, trust me, Sae won’t make it.
Never gonna get over the fact that Yunjin didnt debut
Nako is the fancam queen, but Sakura is the fancam god!!!!!
So many japanees member,, 😁 but for me the most imfortant is Lee Chaeyeon be there,, 😍😍🙏🙏👏👏💕💕
This is actually a good lineup omg
i love the izone lineup and all the members, but this lineup has my top 3 girls (sakura, yunjin, miyu) so i wouldve loved for these members to debut together too
My guesses for positions:
Kwon Eunbi: Leader, Main Dancer, Lead Vocalist
Heo Yunjin: Main Vocalist
Goto Moe: Lead Dancer, Sub-Vocalist, Visual
Jang Wonyoung: Lead Dancer, Lead Rapper, Sub-Vocalist, Maknae
Lee Kaeun: Main Rapper, Lead Dancer, Vocalist
Honda Hitomi: Lead Dancer, Vocalist, Sub-Rapper
Takeuchi Miyu: Main Vocalist
Shiroma Miru: Visual, Vocalist
Lee Chaeyeon: Main Dancer(Obviously), Lead Rapper, Lead Vocalist
Murase Sae: Lead Dancer, Visual, Sub Vocalist,
Yabuki Nako: Lead Vocalist
Miyawaki Sakura: Center, FOTG, Lead Rapper, Sub-Vocalist, Visual
like it! tho i think ka eun will be the leader and instead of miru, eunbi will be included in visual line
When this show started I was expecting for 6 Japanese and 6 Koreans to debut, but at the end this is just other Korean Group with 3 Japanese members (when 2 of them are underrated with a poor screen time and lines in the songs). The actual line up was controversial for a lot of things, ChaeWon never get into the line and at the final episode she entered, suspicious. I'm still thinking how is it possible that Lee Ka Eun (who was positioned as number 1 a lot of time) didn't enter.
Well, PD48 was just a joke and even when IZ*ONE is a good group is just that a Korean Group with 3 Japanese members and not global girl group as they said at the beginning.
The lawsuit proved that (and the guy who was in charge admitted) that all the rankings were altered BUT the composition is correct. There are theories that Chaeyeon for example was only placed 12 to add drama (for obvious reasons). And there’s a good chance that Sakura should’ve gotten first but they probably just didn’t want a Japanese trainee being the center. 🤷🏻♀️ at least no one was cheated out of a spot on IZ*ONE
I don't know if I'm mistaken here as there might have been news on the case that I didn't catch up with, but last time I checked the final lineup of both PD48 and X101 were decided even before the shows' filming even begun
Cecilia Cavalcanti ive read multiple sources updating on the current positions and claims made and whatnot. The positions were only decided before the airing of the final episode, not before filming. He took sexual favours (amounting of a total of around 45,00 I believe) that was paid for from different companies in order to get their trainee to have more screen time (which influences voting). But, it was proven that every trainee who is on IZ*ONE was meant to be there, but their rankings were chosen for them, most of them at least. I forget the details but after it was “resolved” (I think there is still some things left to settle but Idk I haven’t bothered to check on updates ever since I learned the composition was correct) it was up to the companies of every member to decide if they wanted to continue with the group. The companies of X1 didn’t come to an agreement so they disbanded, but the companies for IZ*ONE did. That’s as much as I know and I’m pretty sure the details of the agreement included keeping the current rankings although I’m not sure. If you do find out more information lmk!
@@matheab5864 What I've learnt is a little different from yours that Mnet did not even count the voting result on the final broadcast night as they had already chosen the member before final... (Some KR articles do said that the result was actually settled before the show where the amount of on-screen time would be changed and thus affect a lot on the result too. But of course, Ahn Jun Young is not gonna admit it even if this is true.) While learning from past experience, assuming the previous 2 seasons did not involve cheating, final broadcast voting can change quite a lot on the result, especially when they announced who's currently at position 11 and may fall out of the debut team... So, I would say it's hard to say whether the present members are meant to be there. But what we all know now is that Mnet is not gonna announce the real result as they claimed that they did not actually have that... 🤦🏻♀️ So whoever's gonna support, enjoy! And whoever feel uncomfortable with it, don't ever attack the members but Mnet and let it go... :)
Candy Chan I got most of my information from Wikipedia here’s the link en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnet_vote_manipulation_investigation . They cited many, many sources but I believe nearly all of them were Korean. Basically, once Ahn was arrested, after questioning he admitted to changing the rankings. And in December all defendants, including him admitted it again but requested a closed trial afterwards to disclose the names of the trainees involved. So it’s not clear who because of all the legal stuff but the police released information that they could. What was also revealed is that the rankings for the top 20 trainees were predetermined before the final performances were recorded and broadcasted. The following i think is only derived as similarities to what happened with X1. Ahn and Kim (Vice President of Starship) met up in August before the live finale to determine the 12 members based on pre-finale votes. They switched the ranking of one person but it wasn’t made clear if that ranking determined a trainee’s chance to debut or their ranking in the group. I also think some evidence was destroyed? Or they at least attempted to, that’s why there’s a lot more specific information on what happened with X1 and not IZ*ONE. Also, eliminated trainees were fairly compensated, the ones who didn’t get to debut or were given a bad shot I guess. Oh and Ahn admitted that the rankings were also tampered in all seasons, just very minimal in the first two. Soooo I think generally, for IZ*ONE, there’s a possibility that someone didn’t get to debut and that some rankings and positions were predetermined. But I feel like that’s why IZ*ONE was able to continue and not disband, plus they were already successful. Honestly, it’s just a good thing that Mnet is banned from making audition programs now. Although good things can come from them, it’s clear that a lot of dirty work comes to play. Tbh I only really got into IZ*ONE after learning that the composition was most likely true. I think it’s unfair to support a group that cheated some girls out of a debut. Hopefully more reliable information surfaces but I feel like at this point, especially with their recent comeback, it’ll hardly effect IZ*ONE. If you have more information lmk :)
@@matheab5864 Yup, basically what I want to clarify is on the point that no one actually knows whether the members are to be there only with their rankings changed especially when that's decided before final broadcasting as I remember live voting counts more than prevotes (like each vote was equal to 7 votes in season 2). I also read kr news that Ahn actually claimed that some companies didn't want their trainees to get into the debut team too so it's just a really complicated thing. (People suggested that Pledis didn't want Gaeun to get in because their contract with Gaeun was going to end soon by that time. And people also suggested that Miru has to stay in NMB48 for her team as she is really important there so even when her results shine throughout the whole programme, she ranked the last among 20 girls ORZ.) But well, no one can get to know about the truth as they may not have the proof and they would not announce anything from investigation. I was not really following Produce 101 season 3 that close back then as I have had really bad experience as a season 2 audience already😂 but I heard from my friends who were season 3 followers and read some comments from korea forums that night that some part of the result did surprised them quite a lot. But as mentioned, maybe that's a result from discussions among companies but not only Mnet so it's just not a fair game from the beginning and no matter the companies or Mnet, they are all treating the girls and boys' dream as a game and to make the show for money🤦🏻♀️. So the punishment should of coz only be done to Mnet and the companies. I'm not a WIZ*ONE tbh but I honestly enjoy their performance and like a few members who did not show their face in this video. It is just a bit sad that the chance of eliminating some girls from debut team still exists that from my own point of view, I would not be able to be fully supportive... but I would say all trainees are good and worth supporting and we can all see IZ*ONE has really amazing results! I think it is not sth unfair to support the group and the girls as they are also the victims from the whole event, like they did not know anything too! So, really, if you like them, just enjoy to the greatest extend!
The power of SAKURA😂💪❤️
Postions: (i guess?)
12: Kwon Eunbi - Main Dancer, lead vocalist, leader
11: Heo Yunjin - Main vocalist
10: Goto Moe - Vocalist, dancer, FOTG
9: Jang Wonyoung - Vocalist, lead dancer, rapper, maknae(?)
8: Lee Kaeun - Lead rapper, lead dancer, vocalist, visual
7: Honda Hitomi - Lead dancer, vocalist
6: Takeuchi Miyu - Main vocalist
5: Shiroma Miru - Lead dancer, vocalist, rapper
4: Lee Chaeyeon - Main dancer, main rapper, lead vocalist
3: Murase Sae - Lead dancer, lead vocalist
2: Yabuki Nako - Lead vocalist
1: Miyawaki Sakura - Vocalist, rapper, center, visual
Sae would be visual, Sakura FOTG
I'll completely support this
I believe ppl loves watching Sakura's video because she is so pleasing in the eyes. In the recent comeback's of Izone they always put Sakura at the back I guess for us to look at other girls also but Sakura has this aura in her that you will automatically look for her or see her right away, I guess a thing that not everyone posses only few Kpop group center that do have it, well Yoona si Korea's Nations Center so it speaks well but aside her Krystal has it too but in general Center changes but really few people just have it in them to stole spotlight without any effort at all
the way you "unintentionally" named the REAL iz*one members
Exactly I like the lineup Izone has now but after watching it...
I *prefer* this one a *LOT*
Love Iz*one but still salty about kaeun not getting in
Same. Our pledis girls got robbed
I KNOW ME TOOOOOOO :( I watched this show for Sakura and Lee Chaeyeon But Lee Kaeun stood out to me as soon as I saw her. Her visual and dancing skill stood out soooo quick to me.
I don't really understand why people would say they prefered this line up. this cam is only based on views so it made no sense to win. its like winning by wrong clicks or curiousity. Also, IZONE members now deserved their places and have proven it with their awesome albums. you must not look at them individually but how they will look like as a group.
I mean the video is based on iz*one rankings IF IT WERE BASED ON THE VIEWS meaning dont take it literal lmao
Do you really think Hyewon deserved her spot in IZ*ONE ? Seriouslly
@@yurishtaar totally agree
Ahn Yujin has a special place in my heart, I don't know what I would do with myself if she didn't debut
Mnet robbed Miyu, she actually deserved to debut
our pledis girls really deserved better, plus the akb48 members who were left out 😭
if Mnet allow us international fans to vote maybe this is the line up dubut. and Izone will be the real global girl grup.
But nobody cares only salty produce48 stans
Iz*one is already a global girl group. They have the best sales of a japan rookie ( over 600k albums sold in japan alone from just 2 singles) and overall do better than any other rookie gg by light years. Just because you got so views in America means nothing since International fans won’t be the ones buying the albums.
Welcome To Your Tape yes izone just rockie girlgrup, and that amazing but remember Izone just 2.5 years before disband. I hope Izone more popular in the future. for me now, I prefer the real global girl grup blackpink or twice. global boy grup bts.
but I like this lineup hehe it's cool too but we need yena and yuri
and yujin and hyewon!
Yes! They need to put Yuri and Yena to higher position coz they need power vocal and good rapper..
We need multi talented idols like yena 💛
I need yena yuri too 😭 but i like this line up 😂😂😂
+ yujin
Sakura's popularity is no joke.
So it's been 7 months, looking back i'm happy with the team we have.
Wow! Sakura should've been in the center💗 Mnet must be very rich (now) because of the views of the fancam of Sakura😅 (No hate)...
true
Sakura should really the first tho.
Jang Wonyoung
Miyawaki Sakura
Lee Chaeyeon
Kim Chaewon
Kwon Eunbi
Choi Yena
Yabuki Nako
Jo Yuri
Ahn Yujin
Kim Minjoo
Honda Hitomi
Kang Hyewon
✿IZ*ONE❀
Where's Chaeyeon???
^2
You missed Chaeyeon
@@fayfay__ thx for saying♡
@@mirainna714 no problem:)
sae is seriously so pretty wtf
THIS LINEUP WOULD BE ITTT
Sakura should’ve been #1 tbh...
You should've go to Korea and vote her
i will still prefer wonyoung
She should've been #1st tbh and I will always forever prefer her than Wonyoung BUT she is Japanese and she will debut in Korea, she will get a lot of hate if she become the center of the group, it is much more safe just like the way they are now
@@daisyandsunflower6945 Wonyoung fit IZ*ONE center more than Sakura.For me,Minju is the visual of IZ*ONE.Im not fond of Sakura.Personal preference i guess.
Nothing special with Sakura..still wonyoung is the best center 😂
Honestly like this line up WAY better.
Sakura is the center??? YES, PLEASEEEEEE
Yujin, minjoo, yuri, yena, hyewon and chaewon are the ones who didnt make it if it was done properly by Mnet. I must say that i would be sad if Yujin, Chaewon and Minjoo were missing 🥺
Kwon Eunbi (12): Main dancer, lead vocalist, leader
Heo Yunjin (11): Main vocalist, visual
Goto Moe (10): Lead dancer, vocalist
Jang Wonyoung (9): Lead dancer, vocalist, rapper, visual
Lee Kaeun (8): Lead dancer, lead rapper, vocalist, visual
Honda Hitomi (7): Lead dancer, vocalist
Takeuchi Miyu (6): Lead vocalist, dancer
Shiroma Miru (5): Main dancer, vocalist, rapper
Lee Chayeon (4): Main dancer, Main rapper, lead vocalist
Murase Sae (3): Lead dancer(can be main dancer at times aswell), vocalist
Yabuki Nako (2): Lead vocalist, fotg
Miyawaki Sakura (1): Vocalist, rapper, visual, center
You should had put them all as visuals. Nobody wants to fight for visual role
@@junnihae2685 just make it chayeon for the lols lmaoo