@@OneShotQuesters I know you cant tell, but I can guess! 1. Space-time warping 11ft tall Hamster 2. The video was unlisted/privated before premiered it 3. A RUclips feature 4. We are all drunk and it says 1 minute ago and not 1 week ago
Hey, he's right. Spellcasters shouldn't be able to cast more than one spell a turn because *shudders* imagine all those fireballs going off in rapid succession.......
@@jamati7704 spells are not limited in 5e, the only limitation that exist is if a spell is casted as a BA you cant cast another spell as an action but action surge let you cast 2 spells with your 2 actions, if you want source, the official D&D answered here www.dndbeyond.com/sources/sac/sage-advice-compendium#Spellcasting "Is there a limit on the number of spells you can cast on your turn? There’s no rule that says you can cast only X number of spells on your turn, but there are some practical limits. The main limiting factor is your action. Most spells require an action to cast, and unless you use a feature like the fighter’s Action Surge, you have only one action on your turn."
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I’m assuming this is talking about quickened spell. If so, just gonna give a general reminder that there is a core rule that you can not cast a spell as a bonus action that is not a cantrip if you have cast a spell that’s is not a cantrip as an action. Unless your multiclassing into fighter and talking about action surge (at which point sorcerer doesn’t matter).
@@PurpleCyanideTube while the rules do say you can't use an action spell and a bonus action spell in the same turn, Crawford actually stated on Twitter that he intended that Sorcerers using Quickened Spell should be able to do it, and that that's how he runs it at home.
@@PurpleCyanideTube No, but he did write those rules in the first place so his word is still trustworthy. Might not be rules as written, but it IS rules as intended.
@@cryoice6511 Nope. That's a house rule Critical Role uses though, so maybe you've got that idea from there? It's not an "actual" D&D rule though. You can cast as many spells as you've got actions. If we're going with my example, I would use my action in round 1 to set up my Spirit Guardians (it uses a full action and is a Concentration spell), and then, in the next round, I would use my _bonus action_ - since that is all this spell needs - to summon (and attack with) my Spiritual Weapon (which, surprisingly enough, isn't a Concentration spell, which means that it can be up at the same time as the Spirit Guardians). I then still have my full action left over, which I tend to use to attack with Toll the Dead - it's a Cantrip, but that's only because I don't want to use up that many spell slots in one go, not because I wouldn't be able to cast anything else. If I wanted to, I could cast any other 1-action spell in its place, no matter the level. And voilà, that's how I make a very effective three-spell-combo. You just need to know how to manage your action economy, and you're golden!
@@TimeturnerJ From page 202 of the PHB: "A spell cast with a bonus action is especially swift. You must use a bonus action on your turn to cast the spell, provided that you haven't already taken a bonus action this turn. You can't cast another spell during the same turn, except for a cantrip with a casting time of 1 action" As the rules are written, if you cast a spell as a bonus action, you are limited to cantrips for the remainder of your turn. So in your example, while casting Toll the Dead is fine, you couldn't then cast Guiding Bolt, for example.
the ranged thing sort of makes sense, if your too close the enemy could just push your weapon out of the way (Credit to Xp to Lvl3 for displaying that)
In previous editions you could get hit with an opportunity attack if you used a ranged attack in melee. Disadvantage is an improvement. Idea is that you are doing something more complicated and distracting while someone is in stabbing range, and leave yourself open.
@@Ralnarene It is? How? If I was firing a bow in melee range, that is at least as dangerous as moving away from them. The idea is you aren’t guarding yourself against the attack, when wielding a weapon, you are, so doing something mean that your guarded. A bow isn’t an effective defensive tool against a sword. Though sword fights include a substantial amount of deflections, and parries, with swords.
@@commanderbacon6426 Disadvantage isn't a more accurate simulation, it's more effective at producing the behavior the rules are meant to evoke; especially since opportunity attacks are *dramatically* nerfed by the reaction system. In 5e, I could see players triggering that AoO specifically to rob someone of a reaction.
@@FatedHandJonathon Yeah, didn’t think about that. You can only get one reaction in dnd, and it’s pretty hard to get more(well not more reactions, but more attacks of opportunity.
imo disadvantage doesn't make too much sense but the damage should be penalized. this is speaking realistically of course, and not mechanically. But realistically, firing an arrow at someone short range simply won't do as much damage as from far away
The "disadvantage" of trying to fire a ranged weapon at melee range is that your opponent can literally grab it while you're still trying to aim. That's what the disadvantage penalty covers, having to deal with that.
No more difficult than having a melee weapon grabbed, which is a real world tactic. At 5 feet it's really easy to hit a human sized target. An amateur could do it with no training, and do so in a second. Penalties for ranged attacks in melee are for game balance, not realism.
I would understand disadvantage while you’re within melee for something a bow as it would need to drawn, but with something like a gun from ebberon why is the minimum range 80ft?? That’s an incredible distance for small skirmishes which most Combat encounters really are. Using something like a crossbow or even an already drawn bow at close range should do more damage 80ft minimum distance would only really matter in massive fight between 2 armies and you’re one side probably just behind the front line
@@tadferd4340 Is it faster for a guy to swing his sword at you multiple times in a row or you drawing your bow and shoot at him? Bow aren't guns There are disadvantages for bows in melee range in real like. You'd be much better using your bow as a stick in 5ft melee range than trying to shoot.
@@NeinKyori I've wielded swords and bows in real life. There are plenty of things the bow user could do to disrupt the melee user, and vis versa. A round of combat in DnD is 6 seconds and melee combat takes place in a 10 by 5 foot area. That's plenty of space and time for both individuals to fight.
@@maximillian5102 That isn't minimum range, it's normal range. So like shooting anything within that range is normal, being any further would impose disadvantage. The second number is the maximum range, you can't shoot anything beyond that range.
The whole disadvantage at point blank makes more sense when you remember the target can see where you are aiming and move out of the way without leaving their five foot square 😂. As a DM I have had to explain it too many times and the best answer I could come up with is "they aren't just going to stand there and let you shoot them"
@@shadeslayer6374 from what I know thaco was backwards from the higher ac is better idea, some weird plus or minus calculation of attack in 1e. It was like a penalty or subtraction from your attack if they had ac. I guess attack minus ac or something. But I think the shifted it by 2e. I'm aware the fixed some of the system from 1e in 2e, so you would have had a different system.
@@kingkasdin9767 ThAC0 is short for To Hit Armour Class 0. it starts at 20 and goes down as you level (a 4th level Fighter has a ThAC0 of 16 for example). AC in ADnD 2e, where ThAC0 was both introduced and killed for later edition's ascending AC, starts at 10 (naked man with a neutral dex mod) and goes down to 0 (full plate with a big honking shield). it usually required magical armours or being a supernatural creature to get negative AC. How it worked was, you rolled your attack roll and added modifiers like high strength and magic weapon. let's say you roll a modified 16. Your lv 2 Fighter has a ThAC0 of 18. you then subtract your modified attack roll from your ThAC0. So 18-16= you hit an AC of 2 or higher (so any ac from 10 to 2). so basically anything short of full plate or field plate+shield.
It makes sense for a javelin or a bow that takes a bit of time to draw and is kinda big and awkward, but I feel like the mechanic makes less sense for guns (if you're in a setting where guns are a thing). Yes, it's still easier to slap a barrel of metal out of the way than a sharp blade, but the gun is also still significantly faster at shooting. Just point and click, then bam.
@@KlausiboyZ to hit you, the shooter has to make longer movements to adjust their aim. Youre not standing there giving them a clean target. You're actively menacing them with a weapon and moving around a lot.
@@Y00bi You can easily snap aim a crossbow or gun. Bows are less easy but still not difficult to snap aim. The penalties for ranged weapons in melee are for game balance, not realism.
@@KlausiboyZ Actually has nothing to do with pushing your weapon out of the way. In one self-defense class I told the teacher put a lot of emphasis on the fact that guns have disadvantages at short range in real life. In the time it takes for you to draw your weapon against someone with a knife they can easily have closed more than 20 ft and be stabbing you. In most cases it is safer to flee than to confront
@@clarehidalgo ok, that’s fair but I’m something like DnD you’re not gonna have your weapon stowed. You pull it out as soon as Combat starts. It’s not going to take that long, and if it is a close range fight, almost every class gets some sort of bladed weapon to start with. I really don’t understand why something like a rifle in ebberon as minimum distance of 80ft? As someone who is fairly knowledgeable about guns, that makes no sense
About ranged weapons... XP to Level 3 did a video on this actually and it was kinda funny but at one point in the video, he tested the ranged weapon disadvantage thing 5 feet away, pulls up a gun thing, enemy swats it out of his hand immediately that's why lmao
@@OneShotQuesters do they actually ask if people keep watching? I usually watch them anyway bc ad-barian is funny but like .. I'm not the target audience for this product
I'll admit, when Ad Barian shows, I usually stop watching, but I keep the video playing and go browse commwnts, because I imagine that might be supportive in some way
This is very true for my first character who was a wizard with a Staff of Flames during the campaign who almost set the tavern we were in on fire because of the enemies surrounding us 😂😂😂
Hey duke, there’s a place in Utah called evermore park. It’s a renaissance themed park with so much D&D flair. You can even book to host your campaigns there at the medieval tavern that is actually one of the better restaurants in the state. It’s amazing and you really need to go man. If you do, please make a video first saying when because my wife and I would totally go just to meet you lol.
Do you find yourself walking around having conversations with yourself from the perspectives of the various personalities you've developed for your channel?
I have a homebrew feat in my campaigns that you can take as long as you are at least level 12 called “legendary status” it allows you to have 1 legendary action point so that you can better combo with people. Makes some insane plays available when a couple characters take that feat in late game.
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I know you take inspiration from Ryan, but this episode is especially marked. I love it. It'd be great if you'd do a collab, like adbarian advertising Ryan and the adstronaut advertising you. And they try to compete to see who advertises things better.
I love this, the one thing I must say is. *i have seen the 5 foot square in real life* and boy does it put things into perspective! Imagine trying to shoot a guy who's in stabbing distance with a bow!
Ranged attacks don't specifically have disadvantage to hit someone close by. Instead, they have disadvantage to hit *anyone* as long as there's an enemy close by, because it's assumed that enemy isn't going to give you an easy time aiming.
That and in the time it takes you to draw back your arrow realistically they could have closed the distance and be actively stabbing you IRL. The Police have the "21 foot rule" for "safe gun drawing distance" though 21 feet is often too short a distance and they can still end up stabbed
1:21 Honestly, this makes sense. If you're trying to draw a bow to shoot an enemy 5 feet away, they are more likely to notice and be able to react. Also, people can generally sprint 20 feet with a knife than aim and fire a gun, so a melee target within 5 feet would just stab an archer that close.
Having disadvantage at 5 ft with ranged weaponry actually makes sense, as irl it would actuall be harder to shoot a person that close, and that is with a firearm, ranged weapons in DnD are bows and crossbows, which would be even worse at that close of a range.
"It's like we're in a video or something" no do not break the 4th wall cthulu will come after us Edit: Just realised that its completely fine due to past history between Cthulu and Mr Questers
Ranged attacks having disadvantage when they are too close makes complete sense. I had a self-defense teacher talk about the effective range of guns and knives, the amount of time it takes to draw the ranged weapon vs the time it takes the person with an edged weapon to close the distance and start stabbing you
Duke, you really got me thinking on this one. My forte is 3.5E, so I prefer to stick with it and come up with house rules to make it more balanced. This scenario with the spellcaster really got me wondering about how to balance it when compared to 'sword and board' combat. Yes, high level spells go further, do more damage, affect a greater area, but again, spellcasters get only one...in a round (usually). Additionally, if they are in physical combat, they must make a concentration check or the spell fails. With all this in mind, I wanted to make it a little more balanced. What if we took into consideration the level of the spellcaster, and used half that number as the 'spell levels' a caster *could* cast in a round. Example: A fourth level caster could cast TWO magic missile spells in one round (all other rules still apply.....) again, an eighth level caster could cast FOUR magic missile spells. This would allow characters to have more of that WOW factor at higher levels, much like maxed out melee fighters do. This would have to be moderated by circumstances, etc by the GM.
Here’s a homebrew I want to help with combat: any 1 spell that uses a weapon attack can be used with Extra Attack. So I can Conjure Barrage a bunch of enemies with my hand crossbow, and use my sword. Maybe fold it into the War Caster Feat.
@@legendanimations6217 I think you missed the “1.” Or I did, even when intended with me not applying anything to the sword, and edited it in later. I’m not sure if it should be 1 “Action Spell” per round, or 1 spell per Action (so Action Surge allows a second).
i mean the best explanation i have is that if you're too close for a ranged attack, the target may notice you, may knock your bow out of the way, they can move within their 5ft square, etc.
Ranged weapons having disadvantage if you're stand right next to them makes sense. You can push their aim aside, easily predict where they're aiming, etc.
Ahhhhhhh! The way you pronounced melee! Massive pet peeve of mine! You don't say it like "mealy"...like the tomato is mealy. You say it like "May-lay". 🤓 If you're going to D&D...then D&D correctly! KTHX for coming to my Ted Talk.
making a ranged attack at 5 feet makes total sense that it'd be at disadvantage, the guy you're trying to shoot is trying to cut your head off, kinda hard to focus on pulling back a bowstring when you're trying to avoid your wooden bow from being split by the guy's axe.
I always saw the ranged rule as being because if you aim to shoot a bow at someone who’s right in front of you, there’s nothing stopping him from pushing the bow to the side to stop you from hitting him, meanwhile it’s not as easy to push a sword out of the way mid swing at your face.
1:22 it's based more on the fact that you don't want to block with your bow, as opposed to almost any other weapon, so you have to work harder to dodge the riposte. It's why I change it to within melee attacking distance of the creature rather than 5 ft. Some can attack at 10' or 15', so it doesn't make sense to only have disadvantage at 5'. This is where homebrew comes in, I add another action which is Leroy attack, by granting advantage to attackers and decreasing their crit requirement by 2 you can invalidate disadvantage and decreasing your crit requirement by 2, normally 17+. Useful only in melee range. I also let them cast lower level spells multiple times if they're using higher level slots (lv 1 cast twice with a lv 3 slot) by granting everyone advantage on attacking them. Lots of little tweaks to help the realism at the cost of balance.
In older versions of D&D you got a +1 bonus to attack rolls with a ranged weapon when you were 5ft from them. Ranges were classified as Short, Medium and Long range. Short range you got a +1, medium you got nothing and long range you got a -1.
A wierd time paradox happens when he mentions the 5th edition advantage/disadvantage rules but at the same time also warns us about the incoming of the dreaded 4th edition. I wonder whether TAC0 will make an appearance along the lines in the future or past? I dunno.
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How was this pinned comment posted a week ago?
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@@OneShotQuesters the secret time travel spell only unlocked at level 69
The premiere is now premiering our mistake about showing up before the premiere...premiering...
@@OneShotQuesters I know you cant tell, but I can guess!
1. Space-time warping 11ft tall Hamster
2. The video was unlisted/privated before premiered it
3. A RUclips feature
4. We are all drunk and it says 1 minute ago and not 1 week ago
Your hair do be looking thicker though
Imagine using hitpoints, dice, initiative, AC, movement, and players. This post was made by the collecting systems from every D&D RUclipsr gang.
That sounds all very absurd
Oh…. oh god.
@@OneShotQuesters I know right. It's like normal players are trying to play a game and not optimally represent realistic violence. Couldn't be me.
@@OneShotQuesters not as abserd as abserd.
@@kingkasdin9767 Yas
“The most balanced yet imbalanced system ever”
That is an absolutely perfect description
I do my best
Remember kids, violence is not an answer. It’s a question and the answer is YES.
-Says the barbarian after killing everyone in the house near the orphanage because one person looked at him funny
Violence is never the answer, its the solution!
"And if violence doesn't solve the problem, then men, you're just not using enough." - my senior drill sergeant.
Remember copy cats, when copying a comment becus u have 0 originality, at least try to change it a bit
@@anjafrohlich1170 if he wanted to "spread the idea", he should have used quotation marks
The rest of the party: remember kids, violence is always the answer!
The paladin watching as the party turns the orphans into a war band: yo wtf?
**insert tom and jerry meme**
Those were the days except I was an oathbreaker paladin
Violence is not the answer. It is the question
And the answer is " *yes* "
It's as they say, if violence doesn't solve your problems, you're simply not using enough of it.
Hey, he's right. Spellcasters shouldn't be able to cast more than one spell a turn because *shudders* imagine all those fireballs going off in rapid succession.......
I have multispell, so I cast Fireball 4 times, or as I like to call it, Napalm-is-U.
Fighter 2 / Wizard 18
"I cast . Action Surge. I cast ."
@@portlandbluewizard2520 Still doesn't work with action surge. Spellcasters are limited to 1 spell and 1 cantrip per turn.
But you can though
@@jamati7704 spells are not limited in 5e, the only limitation that exist is if a spell is casted as a BA you cant cast another spell as an action but action surge let you cast 2 spells with your 2 actions, if you want source, the official D&D answered here www.dndbeyond.com/sources/sac/sage-advice-compendium#Spellcasting "Is there a limit on the number of spells you can cast on your turn?
There’s no rule that says you can cast only X number of spells on your turn, but there are some practical limits. The main limiting factor is your action. Most spells require an action to cast, and unless you use a feature like the fighter’s Action Surge, you have only one action on your turn."
I would like you all to know, that the 'bewb' joke was created by my Wife 😂 So thank her for that little snippet there haha!
OSQ: *Teaching wife how to combat*
Wife: If you made it circles, it would look like boobies.
OSQ: OK... *Continues to teach her D&D*
Wife: .... Like mine... You catch my drift.
OSQ: Oh, right! But the circles would make it so there are strange spaces between them. So squares are better, but hexagons are bestagons.
Wife: *angry pout*
But what if the circles were different sizes?
@@icarue993 Hexagons are the Bestagons yes.
Oh jokes about bewbs is TIGHT!
....wait, wrong channel
@@drunkpunch7334 ah yes, I found another.
Them : "It's illegal to use more than 1 spell"
My sorcerer: ha ha fireball go boom
Thats all they need haha
I’m assuming this is talking about quickened spell. If so, just gonna give a general reminder that there is a core rule that you can not cast a spell as a bonus action that is not a cantrip if you have cast a spell that’s is not a cantrip as an action. Unless your multiclassing into fighter and talking about action surge (at which point sorcerer doesn’t matter).
@@PurpleCyanideTube while the rules do say you can't use an action spell and a bonus action spell in the same turn, Crawford actually stated on Twitter that he intended that Sorcerers using Quickened Spell should be able to do it, and that that's how he runs it at home.
@@srvfan17 he also doesn’t represent wizards of the coast anymore tho. If you run it that way, more power to you but that is not rules as written.
@@PurpleCyanideTube No, but he did write those rules in the first place so his word is still trustworthy. Might not be rules as written, but it IS rules as intended.
"It's illegal to use more than one spell"
My cleric: Haha, Spirit Guardians, Spiritual Weapon and Toll the Dead go brrrrrrrrr :D
Even then he’s still wrong and you can cast as many spells as you have the actions to cast them with
@@trexdrew you can only cast one leveled spell a turn, all others have to be cantrips.
@@cryoice6511 Nope. That's a house rule Critical Role uses though, so maybe you've got that idea from there? It's not an "actual" D&D rule though.
You can cast as many spells as you've got actions.
If we're going with my example, I would use my action in round 1 to set up my Spirit Guardians (it uses a full action and is a Concentration spell), and then, in the next round, I would use my _bonus action_ - since that is all this spell needs - to summon (and attack with) my Spiritual Weapon (which, surprisingly enough, isn't a Concentration spell, which means that it can be up at the same time as the Spirit Guardians). I then still have my full action left over, which I tend to use to attack with Toll the Dead - it's a Cantrip, but that's only because I don't want to use up that many spell slots in one go, not because I wouldn't be able to cast anything else. If I wanted to, I could cast any other 1-action spell in its place, no matter the level.
And voilà, that's how I make a very effective three-spell-combo. You just need to know how to manage your action economy, and you're golden!
@@TimeturnerJ From page 202 of the PHB:
"A spell cast with a bonus action is especially swift. You must use a bonus action on your turn to cast the spell, provided that you haven't already taken a bonus action this turn. You can't cast another spell during the same turn, except for a cantrip with a casting time of 1 action"
As the rules are written, if you cast a spell as a bonus action, you are limited to cantrips for the remainder of your turn. So in your example, while casting Toll the Dead is fine, you couldn't then cast Guiding Bolt, for example.
@@OnyxTheDragon Huh. The more you know.
Thanks for educating me in that case, I genuinely didn't know that.
the ranged thing sort of makes sense, if your too close the enemy could just push your weapon out of the way (Credit to Xp to Lvl3 for displaying that)
In previous editions you could get hit with an opportunity attack if you used a ranged attack in melee. Disadvantage is an improvement.
Idea is that you are doing something more complicated and distracting while someone is in stabbing range, and leave yourself open.
@@Ralnarene It is? How? If I was firing a bow in melee range, that is at least as dangerous as moving away from them. The idea is you aren’t guarding yourself against the attack, when wielding a weapon, you are, so doing something mean that your guarded. A bow isn’t an effective defensive tool against a sword. Though sword fights include a substantial amount of deflections, and parries, with swords.
@@commanderbacon6426 Disadvantage isn't a more accurate simulation, it's more effective at producing the behavior the rules are meant to evoke; especially since opportunity attacks are *dramatically* nerfed by the reaction system. In 5e, I could see players triggering that AoO specifically to rob someone of a reaction.
@@FatedHandJonathon Yeah, didn’t think about that. You can only get one reaction in dnd, and it’s pretty hard to get more(well not more reactions, but more attacks of opportunity.
imo disadvantage doesn't make too much sense but the damage should be penalized. this is speaking realistically of course, and not mechanically. But realistically, firing an arrow at someone short range simply won't do as much damage as from far away
Last time my party did combat, we had to fight a CR 14 adult black dragon that I tried and failed to seduce, no combat may ever compare again
Well you obviously haven't been following my teachings if you failed 😂
My goliath monk wrestled an ancient blue dragon.
You failed?
…
How?!
The fighter in the party tried to use animal handling to talk to a dragon. He got burned to a crisp and we had to rescue him
Though actually now that I come back to this, maybe you didn’t fail and that the fight was just their foreplay.
Black dragons are sadistic y’know
"So I woke up, and chose violence"
-Gary Gygax probably
"Here I go, killing again"
The "disadvantage" of trying to fire a ranged weapon at melee range is that your opponent can literally grab it while you're still trying to aim. That's what the disadvantage penalty covers, having to deal with that.
No more difficult than having a melee weapon grabbed, which is a real world tactic.
At 5 feet it's really easy to hit a human sized target. An amateur could do it with no training, and do so in a second.
Penalties for ranged attacks in melee are for game balance, not realism.
I would understand disadvantage while you’re within melee for something a bow as it would need to drawn, but with something like a gun from ebberon why is the minimum range 80ft?? That’s an incredible distance for small skirmishes which most Combat encounters really are. Using something like a crossbow or even an already drawn bow at close range should do more damage 80ft minimum distance would only really matter in massive fight between 2 armies and you’re one side probably just behind the front line
@@tadferd4340 Is it faster for a guy to swing his sword at you multiple times in a row or you drawing your bow and shoot at him? Bow aren't guns
There are disadvantages for bows in melee range in real like. You'd be much better using your bow as a stick in 5ft melee range than trying to shoot.
@@NeinKyori I've wielded swords and bows in real life. There are plenty of things the bow user could do to disrupt the melee user, and vis versa. A round of combat in DnD is 6 seconds and melee combat takes place in a 10 by 5 foot area. That's plenty of space and time for both individuals to fight.
@@maximillian5102 That isn't minimum range, it's normal range. So like shooting anything within that range is normal, being any further would impose disadvantage. The second number is the maximum range, you can't shoot anything beyond that range.
I just love duke
The whole disadvantage at point blank makes more sense when you remember the target can see where you are aiming and move out of the way without leaving their five foot square 😂. As a DM I have had to explain it too many times and the best answer I could come up with is "they aren't just going to stand there and let you shoot them"
You can easily hit a human sized target at 5ft with snap aiming. A crossbow is literally point and shoot and you aren't dodging a bolt at 5ft.
*Explains the 5e rules for combat*
"Just wait until 4e comes out"
... Wait...
Yeah, I don't think he'll bring up THAC0 in a RUclips video
Did they bring back thaco in 4e? I enjoyed 2e as if it were Part of the darksouls series.
I didn't play 4e. I only know about THAC0 because I saw it posted in dnd discussions and looked it up.
@@shadeslayer6374 from what I know thaco was backwards from the higher ac is better idea, some weird plus or minus calculation of attack in 1e. It was like a penalty or subtraction from your attack if they had ac. I guess attack minus ac or something. But I think the shifted it by 2e. I'm aware the fixed some of the system from 1e in 2e, so you would have had a different system.
@@kingkasdin9767 ThAC0 is short for To Hit Armour Class 0. it starts at 20 and goes down as you level (a 4th level Fighter has a ThAC0 of 16 for example). AC in ADnD 2e, where ThAC0 was both introduced and killed for later edition's ascending AC, starts at 10 (naked man with a neutral dex mod) and goes down to 0 (full plate with a big honking shield). it usually required magical armours or being a supernatural creature to get negative AC.
How it worked was, you rolled your attack roll and added modifiers like high strength and magic weapon. let's say you roll a modified 16. Your lv 2 Fighter has a ThAC0 of 18. you then subtract your modified attack roll from your ThAC0.
So 18-16= you hit an AC of 2 or higher (so any ac from 10 to 2). so basically anything short of full plate or field plate+shield.
"Because circles would make everything look like bewbs."
But... all these squares make a circle.
_And _*_that_*_ one's still green!_
The reason you get disadvantage Withing 5 ft., Is because they can just punch the weapon out of the way
It makes sense for a javelin or a bow that takes a bit of time to draw and is kinda big and awkward, but I feel like the mechanic makes less sense for guns (if you're in a setting where guns are a thing).
Yes, it's still easier to slap a barrel of metal out of the way than a sharp blade, but the gun is also still significantly faster at shooting. Just point and click, then bam.
@@KlausiboyZ to hit you, the shooter has to make longer movements to adjust their aim.
Youre not standing there giving them a clean target. You're actively menacing them with a weapon and moving around a lot.
@@Y00bi You can easily snap aim a crossbow or gun. Bows are less easy but still not difficult to snap aim. The penalties for ranged weapons in melee are for game balance, not realism.
@@KlausiboyZ Actually has nothing to do with pushing your weapon out of the way. In one self-defense class I told the teacher put a lot of emphasis on the fact that guns have disadvantages at short range in real life. In the time it takes for you to draw your weapon against someone with a knife they can easily have closed more than 20 ft and be stabbing you. In most cases it is safer to flee than to confront
@@clarehidalgo ok, that’s fair but I’m something like DnD you’re not gonna have your weapon stowed. You pull it out as soon as Combat starts. It’s not going to take that long, and if it is a close range fight, almost every class gets some sort of bladed weapon to start with. I really don’t understand why something like a rifle in ebberon as minimum distance of 80ft? As someone who is fairly knowledgeable about guns, that makes no sense
War hoo yea, what is it good for?
Getting lots of xp and quickly dealing with this encounter.
Thats what its good for.
Do people actually use the exp system instead of milestones? (not trying to sound judgmental, I've just never met anyone who did)
@@KlausiboyZ yes, every party i have either dmed or played in used exp, but we all play video games as well. so that properly affects it.
"Saying how many boobs you are away from the enemy doesn't sound appropriate."
Maybe not but it would've made combat 1000000× more hilarious.
Right there with you lol
"Just wait until forth edition comes out" We don't talk about 4th edition
Oh your right, I am so sorry
Some do. :P
Coward!
What's the problem with the 4th edition ?
@@ludovicdussaud110 You stay innocent you pure soul
Literally the only channel I enjoy sticking around for the ads.
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i love that in my party i am a ranger, and the only one that tries to end thing peacefully while everyone is trying to either murder or coerce things.
"Its like we are in a video or something!"
Breaking the 4th wall is tight!
Oh boy I cannot wait!
Hey I really enjoy your content, really makes me happy! You're doing a great job!
For once I have a free day and I’m finally gonna watch the premiere. So excited to see the new vid, already know it’ll be great!
About ranged weapons...
XP to Level 3 did a video on this actually and it was kinda funny but at one point in the video, he tested the ranged weapon disadvantage thing
5 feet away, pulls up a gun thing, enemy swats it out of his hand immediately
that's why lmao
You can aim while being evasive. Hard with a bow, but super easy with a crossbow.
You know, all of these rules actually make a lot of sense.
Whoa whoa whoa, did you just say... "mee lee"? Isn't it "may lay"?!
I always said it this way and noone corrected me 😂
@@OneShotQuesters Oh, lol! I've never heard it pronounced like that before and it threw me off for a sec 😂
This new using your own hands as the other guys hands gets me every single time.
Ha “ prevention is key” said the ad-Barian the towns people “ that is a weird Modo but how much?”
It's sad to see the watching count go down as soon a ad barian shows up.
Its because only a choice few can handle watching AD-Barian when he is only using 2% of his power
Ad-barian may be the funniest part of the video.
@@OneShotQuesters do they actually ask if people keep watching? I usually watch them anyway bc ad-barian is funny but like .. I'm not the target audience for this product
I'll admit, when Ad Barian shows, I usually stop watching, but I keep the video playing and go browse commwnts, because I imagine that might be supportive in some way
This is very true for my first character who was a wizard with a Staff of Flames during the campaign who almost set the tavern we were in on fire because of the enemies surrounding us 😂😂😂
MT human rouge: violence isn't the answer it's the question the answer is yes
"Well, alright! Sucks for them...." 😂😂😂😂😂
We've been awaiting your arrival for quite some time
Hey duke, there’s a place in Utah called evermore park. It’s a renaissance themed park with so much D&D flair. You can even book to host your campaigns there at the medieval tavern that is actually one of the better restaurants in the state. It’s amazing and you really need to go man. If you do, please make a video first saying when because my wife and I would totally go just to meet you lol.
Do you find yourself walking around having conversations with yourself from the perspectives of the various personalities you've developed for your channel?
I walk around and act out my scripts sometimes and my wife wonders what I’m doing 😂 she’s used to it by now haha
2:13
I feel like you are calling out every toddlers and children who scuffles like that.
And on this day, if one was quiet enough, the wails of wizards being done 1d4 damage too could be heard across the land.
That last part about the enemies is peak "Your rules aren't my rules."
Great video man keep up the good work
Thank god that your uploading more frequently+ their really good quality
Honestly i absolutely love the ad-barian, from all commercials made in the entire world the ad-barian is the best
Jeez, i've never ever skip ad-barian, it's so good. Thanks for him, OSQ.
MELEE IS SAY LIKE MAY-LAY
I have a homebrew feat in my campaigns that you can take as long as you are at least level 12 called “legendary status” it allows you to have 1 legendary action point so that you can better combo with people. Makes some insane plays available when a couple characters take that feat in late game.
thats the best sponsor spiel I've seen in my life so far. I wish sponsor spiels were more like that. I hear that zinc is related to hair loss, a zinc deficiency is related to baldness(hair loss), and white hair is related to copper deficiency
"Oh, and just wait to see the people that want to play this game just to fight for experience points" "What?"
But a barbarian came to town-
Heheh..
That killed me 😂🤣
I know you take inspiration from Ryan, but this episode is especially marked.
I love it. It'd be great if you'd do a collab, like adbarian advertising Ryan and the adstronaut advertising you. And they try to compete to see who advertises things better.
Cross advertising is TIGHT.
I'm loving the videos quickly becoming one of my favorite channels
I love this, the one thing I must say is. *i have seen the 5 foot square in real life* and boy does it put things into perspective! Imagine trying to shoot a guy who's in stabbing distance with a bow!
Ranged attacks don't specifically have disadvantage to hit someone close by. Instead, they have disadvantage to hit *anyone* as long as there's an enemy close by, because it's assumed that enemy isn't going to give you an easy time aiming.
That and in the time it takes you to draw back your arrow realistically they could have closed the distance and be actively stabbing you IRL. The Police have the "21 foot rule" for "safe gun drawing distance" though 21 feet is often too short a distance and they can still end up stabbed
You're getting better and better. Top tier comedy dude! Keep it up!
best explaation for movement i ve ever heard
I really like these casual fourth wall breaks
Keep posting these comedy golds and hope you're doing well in these trying times
I like how he slowly evolves into pitch meeting
The best explanation for the up close disadvantage on ranged weapons is that the enemy hits your weapon mid firing since they're right there...
Great Video! Sarcastic Perfection! Thank You!
**All rules describedcare 5e rules*
"Just wait until 4th edition comes out."
... wait what
Keep up the good work
1:21 Honestly, this makes sense. If you're trying to draw a bow to shoot an enemy 5 feet away, they are more likely to notice and be able to react.
Also, people can generally sprint 20 feet with a knife than aim and fire a gun, so a melee target within 5 feet would just stab an archer that close.
Love that 4th wall break
I like how you pronounce mêlée as mealy... Much better to think of food when you're about to get attacked up close XD
This channel is the Ryan George of dnd. Change my mind
I know and it’s beautiful!
The Rian George of DND is tight
No, I don't think I will
If anyone tries to argue with me then they should get all the way off my back about this I decided
Having disadvantage at 5 ft with ranged weaponry actually makes sense, as irl it would actuall be harder to shoot a person that close, and that is with a firearm, ranged weapons in DnD are bows and crossbows, which would be even worse at that close of a range.
"It's like we're in a video or something"
no do not break the 4th wall cthulu will come after us
Edit: Just realised that its completely fine due to past history between Cthulu and Mr Questers
Ranged attacks having disadvantage when they are too close makes complete sense. I had a self-defense teacher talk about the effective range of guns and knives, the amount of time it takes to draw the ranged weapon vs the time it takes the person with an edged weapon to close the distance and start stabbing you
That was a beautiful story Adbarian, 😭 beautiful
Duke, you really got me thinking on this one. My forte is 3.5E, so I prefer to stick with it and come up with house rules to make it more balanced. This scenario with the spellcaster really got me wondering about how to balance it when compared to 'sword and board' combat. Yes, high level spells go further, do more damage, affect a greater area, but again, spellcasters get only one...in a round (usually). Additionally, if they are in physical combat, they must make a concentration check or the spell fails. With all this in mind, I wanted to make it a little more balanced. What if we took into consideration the level of the spellcaster, and used half that number as the 'spell levels' a caster *could* cast in a round. Example: A fourth level caster could cast TWO magic missile spells in one round (all other rules still apply.....) again, an eighth level caster could cast FOUR magic missile spells. This would allow characters to have more of that WOW factor at higher levels, much like maxed out melee fighters do. This would have to be moderated by circumstances, etc by the GM.
Here’s a homebrew I want to help with combat: any 1 spell that uses a weapon attack can be used with Extra Attack. So I can Conjure Barrage a bunch of enemies with my hand crossbow, and use my sword.
Maybe fold it into the War Caster Feat.
Eldritch knight just went from green flame blade doing 4d8+Str to now 16d8+Str+Str+Str+Str
Conjure Barrage doesn't use a weapon attack, it consumes ammunition as a component then causes enemies to make saving throws.
@@legendanimations6217 I think you missed the “1.” Or I did, even when intended with me not applying anything to the sword, and edited it in later.
I’m not sure if it should be 1 “Action Spell” per round, or 1 spell per Action (so Action Surge allows a second).
@@minelegend6557 It was the first thing that came to mind. And it does involve attacking with ammunition and its weapon.
"It's illegal" "you got me there"
It isn’t actually. As long as you have the actions to do so you can cast as many spells as you like
Ranged weapon i tend to think it is like if enemies are right next to you they are interfering with your shooting...
i mean the best explanation i have is that if you're too close for a ranged attack, the target may notice you, may knock your bow out of the way, they can move within their 5ft square, etc.
Are you…saying…me-lee? It’s may-lay
1:21
Ah yes like trying to draw, then shoot an arrow point blank at someone while they are swatting at your bow is a good idea
Love it. Also, best ad-barian yet
Ranged weapons having disadvantage if you're stand right next to them makes sense.
You can push their aim aside, easily predict where they're aiming, etc.
Ahhhhhhh! The way you pronounced melee! Massive pet peeve of mine! You don't say it like "mealy"...like the tomato is mealy. You say it like "May-lay". 🤓 If you're going to D&D...then D&D correctly! KTHX for coming to my Ted Talk.
making a ranged attack at 5 feet makes total sense that it'd be at disadvantage, the guy you're trying to shoot is trying to cut your head off, kinda hard to focus on pulling back a bowstring when you're trying to avoid your wooden bow from being split by the guy's axe.
Contingency is pretty cool for combos and such
imagine walking in while hes filming the reaction part😂
1:16 I think the idea is that if you’re too close the enemy could try to knock your weapon out of your hands.
That was fabulous!!
I honestly like the idea of a spell caster who can cast many spells or chain spells into attacks
I always saw the ranged rule as being because if you aim to shoot a bow at someone who’s right in front of you, there’s nothing stopping him from pushing the bow to the side to stop you from hitting him, meanwhile it’s not as easy to push a sword out of the way mid swing at your face.
1:22 it's based more on the fact that you don't want to block with your bow, as opposed to almost any other weapon, so you have to work harder to dodge the riposte. It's why I change it to within melee attacking distance of the creature rather than 5 ft. Some can attack at 10' or 15', so it doesn't make sense to only have disadvantage at 5'. This is where homebrew comes in, I add another action which is Leroy attack, by granting advantage to attackers and decreasing their crit requirement by 2 you can invalidate disadvantage and decreasing your crit requirement by 2, normally 17+. Useful only in melee range.
I also let them cast lower level spells multiple times if they're using higher level slots (lv 1 cast twice with a lv 3 slot) by granting everyone advantage on attacking them.
Lots of little tweaks to help the realism at the cost of balance.
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I think combat is the most heavily modified/house ruled at our tables
"I know it's like we're in a video or something." Now I just need the characters to realize that they are the same person
There is not a single flaw with dnd combat. *not a single flaw*
Nope never, can't find one
0:29 Oh no, the Dukelicates are becoming more self aware
I mean, the reaction-slapping joke didn't packed much of a punch... But the 4-th edition at the end made it all worth it.
I do agree more spells per turn. that's why I allow casting as action and bonus action.
In older versions of D&D you got a +1 bonus to attack rolls with a ranged weapon when you were 5ft from them. Ranges were classified as Short, Medium and Long range. Short range you got a +1, medium you got nothing and long range you got a -1.
You're a brilliant genius. You rock. Long life to you man thank you so much. I freaking Adore your content
A wierd time paradox happens when he mentions the 5th edition advantage/disadvantage rules but at the same time also warns us about the incoming of the dreaded 4th edition. I wonder whether TAC0 will make an appearance along the lines in the future or past? I dunno.