In Canada only the RWD Model 3 qualifies for up to 10k off in federal and provincial rebates. The Ioniq 6 all of the trims qualify so if you want AWD then the price gap makes this the obvious choice. It's neat how getting other people to pay for your stuff changes what you buy.
I can't say I like the look of either the Ionic 5 or 6, but I do think Hyundai should get props for being brave enough to make them. They are certainly amongst the most interesting designs on the road.
It’s better than expected. It’s the awd 20 inch wheel model. It had the 12v battery replaced after 10.5 months and updates for the ICCU charge unit and recall check for inner drive shaft. It’s range is 285 miles going up and down mountain ranges, over 300 miles on the flat. Very happy with it.
Interesting numbers...but keep in mind that for commuting, a Bolt will buy you about the same efficiency as shown in the video for about half the price. Yes, the Ioniq 6 charges much faster and has all sorts of extra bells and whistles that the Bolt doesn't have, but for a routine commute that you charge for at home, none of this matters.
Reasonable commuting. By the way, I have difficulty communicating because I had a stroke in Broca’s area, the part of the brain that controls speech. 2/8/2021 but I lived again. (My wife helped me compose this.)
Its a gorgeous car and looks to be a pleasant interior to be in. I was wondering what is the cabin noise level, the tires seem pretty loud at highway speeds?
I really think the AWD Ioniq 5 with the 19” wheels and 235 tires gets significantly better range than than the top trim Limited with bigger wheels and tires. For some reason Hyundai only lists one EPA range number for all trim levels. I suspect it’s from the Limited.
i am not fan of external design reminds me about some kind retro style particularly old Hundai coupe WITH THAT SAID I LIKE BACK END not so front of the car 🤔
It looks like your phone is too shiny because it creates glare or reflection on the car when you are filming the car you should get a matte finish phone case juste notice that good video anyway .
So much whining about “EVs don't have enough range," and we know most will cheerfully take the 20-inch wheels, and sacrifice 15% of their range, because it looks cool.
was it me or was there an excess of noise/road noise in this video, and can you get an addon from your cell phone with a db meter showing the noise readings?
Could you not use miles per energy unit (kw/h or gallon) but use something that better shows efficiency gains like energy unit per given distance (e.g. 100 km or miles).
Is the cruise control able to handle stop and go traffic comfortably? And what happens if a car cuts in closely in front of you, does it comfortably "see" it and slow to keep a safe distance or does it slam on the brakes?
still have been thinking about getting an ev but can pull the trigger. i do like your reviews on vehicles, however, at 19:20ish you did one thing that really sucks. those lines on the sides of roads have meanings. dashed lines are for exits and are meant to be crossed, solid lines like you blew through jumping to the exit at the last minute are meant to be a "do not cross" type of boundary. basic driving skills are needed for getting a license, which are poorly tested by dmv and accomplished by drivers anymore. you can take this coment as you will. delete it, leave it for the trolls whatever. i'm sitting here quite a few drinks in and easily notice the horrible driving just performed that pisses off so many decent drivers. i'm not perfect either, 1 accident in 30 years so far. i challenge anyone to actually READ the manual for their state and really look at things next time you go to work. i drive 35 miles each way daily for work, i can count at least 15 + daily for all kinds of faults, lights out, trailer lights not working, crossing double white lines, lane changes, no turn signals, the list just goes on. lets the comments commence, i dont care, just drive better.
I really wish they would offer the top trim of this with the 18 inch wheels. Larger wheels are worse in pretty much every way other than some people think they look better.
@@Hans-gb4mv Doesn't seem to be, if you get all the fancy features of the top trim you have to have the giant lead weights making your car miserable too.
Completely agree. If I bought one of these I'd order the 18 inch wheels separately and just swap them on myself. So irritating they can't offer them from the factory.
I personally think the SE is the way to go if you want to get this car. Nothing that you get in the higher trims seems worth the extra cost to me, but I'm sure others will disagree.
Totally agree. The differences between the SE and the higher trims are very minimal, and you have to lose range to get those higher trims on top of the higher price. Seems like a no brainer to me
@@hawxchampion523 Imma offer the opposite opinion... I have an SEL RWD and I often find myself wishing I had gotten the Limited instead. They cut out a lot of creature comforts on each trim lvl and those vented seats would be amazing in summer and anything that reduces your AC needs greatly affects range. It would also be nice to be able to have the user profiles, the 360 camera for parking cause its a very wide car and i've already scrapped the nice wheels twice because it can be hard to get a new, wider car parked. The range/ charge time is pretty damn good and while I will be getting some after market wheels 18" for it, I've already done a 1000 mile road trip from NC to PA & back and I only had to charge 4 times during the trip. The extra range would have probably reduced it to 3 but in all honesty we needed the stops to get food and coffee.
@@dakotapahel-short3192 I actually agree that I would go for the Limited over SEL if you can afford it. The best of all worlds is the Limited and putting 18 inch rims and wheels on it, but that's also the most expensive. For me the value pick is the SE if you don't care about the things that you could get with the higher trims.
The screen of Model 3 is the problem. I have to twist my neck too much even to check the speed. With the Ioniq 6 all the important details are right in front of you.
I thought the same thing to be honest before I bought mine. But it's right at the top corner of the screen. When considering the line of view it sits right at the 2 o'clock edge of the steering wheel. I barely even have to move my eye focus to see the speed, let alone physically move my head. Yes, I would still prefer a secondary HUD or column instrument display, but it's far less of a deal than I initially thought it was going to be.
Only problem is it is ugly Looks like an old Infinity I30 (I think that is the name) with the top part of the back looking like a Porsche and and the bottom looking like the front bumper of some car. Oh, and compared to the Ioniq 5 it is cramped with the full console.
This is very dependent on the driving you did and speeds that were used. In a addition the car above was with the large wheels and AWD. The 3 has way less features and a smaller size which contribute to a weight difference and drag difference.
@@gregkramer5588 of course it depends. But these numbers aren’t in the same ballpark. Of my 1527 miles 600 of them came from a trip from Dallas to San Antonio at an average speed around 70 mph. We probably have another 500 miles or so driving on the highway in Dallas at speeds in excess of 70. The discrepancy between my model 3 and others that you can find on other videos RUclips is minimal. What you see with this ioniq 6 is consistent with other estimates and they are all less than the 4 miles/kWh. Long story short, this isn’t the Model 3 killer it was touted to be. Plus the model 3 comes with more options standard.
@@mgarcia8878 I can hit 4 mi/kWh on my M3 Long Range without even trying. I have to be travelling more than 75 mph to get less than that. This is in 50F+ weather of course. And I'm in eastern MN, where it's a little hilly with the river valleys, but generally flat. When it's flat, no wind, and 70F, I'm hitting 5 mi/kWh on the 65 MPH highways. I've hit as high as 5.2 before on a 25 mile stretch of flat road at 65 MPH with a slight tail wind.
How the cars look is subjective, of course but to me the Ionic 5 is a strange mashup of hatchback and 80s blocky stying. The Ionic 6 is nicer from the front but wow, what happened with the rear?? Haha. Thanks Kyle and Anna!
But great road cars also need software linked to navigation system that lets you know you battery/range accurately. Then you need charging THAT WORKS. Thus, I love my I5, but we bought Tesla YLR for the road.
@@Marcus_Wulfhart Yeah, I did test drive the Ioniq 6 after this video, and was impressed by the leg room, especially since I had the driver's seat in my 6'5" position (all the way back), and still had plenty of room in the back seat for me.
I am really waiting on the efficiency data to make my decision about which EV to buy. If it is as efficient at the EPA numbers indicate it should be more efficient than the Model 3. I am after efficiency so just waiting for the actual testing data. Hopefully we will see the real tests SOON! I want to see that base aero model test! I am interested in the SE RWD LR for the efficiency and range. Would like to know if it is just a wheels swap to get the better economy. Could someone just buy the higher trim RWD car and swap for the 18" wheels and get that 361 miles number? Would like to know if it would be that simple to get the longer range. I want to know how that all stacks up to the most efficient RWD Model 3.
I would say 100% yes, changing the wheels will get you the 361 mile range (or VERY close to it). There are no other big differences between the trims that would affect the range at all. The biggest one that comes to mind, and it's only on the LImited, not the SEL, is the sunroof, but I doubt that would make any noticeable difference to the range, versus having no sunroof, if installed correctly and giving no drag. Outside of that, there is absolutely nothing that would cause the range to drop, outside of maybe 1 mile, with everything combined. I actually have the Limited and am considering swapping out the tires to get that additional range, but so far it is a non issue for me, as I'm able to charge back up to my desired 80% every night, but would definitely come in handy on long trips.
I know this is probably a dumb question but I’ll ask anyway. I have an ioniq 5 limited AWD that came with the 20in tires. Can I get 18s or 19s and keep the same rims and If I get replacement tires that are 19 or 18s will it give me semi significantly better range?
The 20 inch tires are on 20 inch wheels (or rims as you say). You need different size wheels if you’re going to go with smaller tires. 19 inch tires go with 19 inch wheels.
Ioniq 6 Hyundai claims full OTA on all systems, no mention on the 2024 Ioniq 5 if it will have that same Over The Air software updates on all systems, likely same as mine with only info-system updates OTA.
Zelle sucks. Don't beileve me? Watch what happens when you decide to change phone providers and then make a simple mistake on the app. They'll ban you for an "unspecified" amount of time from the platform for "security" reasons. That's basically whan their rep told me when it refused to take my banking info after changing carriers. It's a piss poor way of doing business.
I don't know if it is the camera angle of filming but it looks like you barely fit in that seat. and too close to wheel... looks uncomfortable. ty for the review.
I looked at the top spec the extra to see if the features justify the cost. It is a big number ($4900) but Hyundai does deliver a lot. Power folding mirrors Gloss black exterior accents 8 way power passenger seat ventilated front seats driver memory seat Bose sound system Heated Steering wheel V2L in second row Sunroof rain sensing wipers Smart Park Surround view monitor Blind Spot monitor Parking collision avoidance assist Hmm, Just a bit too expensive for me since some of these I do not care about.
wow. i am not crazy for the cars looks but with that kind of efficency, its definetly worthy of the name Ioniq. might just be my new favorite EV. i wonder if Kia will make a similar model(other than the EV6)
Too bad that the 361mi are on a trim level that is so badly equipped that you almost “must” go to a mod trim and then it becomes a regular “300mi car”. And the higher trims come with wheels that nobody really wants, but they look good, don’t they??? The mid trim doesn’t even have rain sensing wipers. On a 47k$ car. The efficiency is wasted to equip it with a smaller battery that benefits Hyundai in terms of cost, but not the driver who ends up needing a 47k$ for a not fantastic range….
I’ve thought about this too. I think it’ll be a wash. Because while going to cameras may reduce drag, that extra power has to be used to drive the camera feed and digital display
There's been tests done on this with other cars. I think the theoretical range is usually anywhere from 3-6% better fuel economy when removing one (or both) outside mirrors. Obviously a lot of this will differ, dependant on the car, and theoretical is just theoretical, but some actual tests have been done and yielded true results that support that theoretical range. I suppose the best way to measure this, as it is increasing fuel economy and not overall miles, would be to look at the kWh that the car is getting, and increase it by 3%-6%. For the Ionic 6, say you are averaging 4.5mi/kWh. On the 77.4kWh battery, that would net you ~348.3 miles. Assuming a 3% increase, that would put you at ~358.75 miles, and a 6% increase would put you at 369.2 miles. So anywhere from 10-20 miles additional range. These numbers are far from exact, but I think they would at least give an idea. As far as the power being used from the digital cameras/monitors that someone else had mentioned, I imagine the impact from the mirror drag is MUCH higher than the impact of running the digital cameras/monitors, so I doubt that would affect the overall increase in range much at all. 10 miles additional range would be a pretty safe bet, with potential for more.
Hi Kyle, I watch all of your video and would enjoy meeting you in person. I live in Scottsdale, Arizona. I see your currently in the area. Please let me know if you want to get together if you want a tour around town. Thx. Alex
Maybe do the tests late at night? Less wind and no traffic might make a more consistent test. And although I like this car, I would still go for the Model 3 due to the charging situation.
Just for reference, above 50F outside, my M3LR on 18" aero averages ~230Wh/mi, or 4.3mi/kWh on the highway. I can hit 5.0 in good conditions. When it's around freezing is where I'm getting more like 3.5 to 3.7mi/kWh. Then 3.0 or less when it's single digits or below 0 outside.
@@TheJamieleegood I guess I do not see that. The Model 3 Long range would be the closest competitor. Here are the advantages the Ioniq 6 brings. Better build quality, an very good instrument cluster when the 3 has none. Surround view monitor, More space front and back, Ventilated seats, Android auto/carplay, better ride, quiet inside.
You commented how you like the HDA2 so much, which I assume is the same as on the Ioniq5. The only problem I have with the adaptive cruise is that when you use it on roads that have traffic lights it does not notice that cars might be stopped at a traffic light ahead and rather than gradually slow by coasting it races at full speed till the last possible second and then slams on regen to stop. At times I worry that it won't be able to stop. They really need to do an update to the logic they use.
FYI, ECO mode does not disconnect the front axel. It changes the allecration profile to use the front motor less often. But if you floor it in ECO it will still use the front motor.
What is the impact of the regen setting? Despite blended braking, style of driving, coasting and how much you actually brake may have some significant impact no?
This is pretty close to my polestar 2 dual motor in these conditions. I'd get 3.6-3.7mi/kWh in these conditions. The polestar does really well if you keep the speed consistent, the stopping here is what would push it to 3.6 end of the range. I can get 3.8mi/kWh at 70mph in traffic free conditions. I have the 19" wheels on the polestar 2.
I agree with Anna, best driver seat ever. WAY more comfortable than my Model Y. It is smoother ride and much quieter. Which is why she was falling asleep ;)
Just to be clear, you ran this test in Eco mode, meaning rear wheel drive only (front motor disengaged), correct? It seems like the smarter manufacturers are moving towards better efficiency and faster charging rather than simply installing bigger batteries. This seems smart to me. Why lug around extra weight (bigger batteries) that only comes into play now and then when, all things considered, you can achieve similar results with efficiency and charging speeds? Plus you’re no longer hauling around all that dead weight that doesn’t benefit you at all for the vast majority of your daily driving - it actually hurts the bottom line. Good video as always. Me, I’m keeping my M3 SR+. I like that with the Tesla you get nearly the same features and specs regardless whether you get the RWD or the Performance trim.
After 4 videos on this car I hope you learned some things about it! Now that you're up to speed, would you go for this or a Model 3?
Polestar 2
This if price no object. If price is included model 3
Model 3
Model 3 is the best bang for the buck and it’s more efficient.
In Canada only the RWD Model 3 qualifies for up to 10k off in federal and provincial rebates. The Ioniq 6 all of the trims qualify so if you want AWD then the price gap makes this the obvious choice.
It's neat how getting other people to pay for your stuff changes what you buy.
I changed out my 20" wheels for 18" on my ioniq 6 SEL and now I am getting 360 to 370 mile range when fully charged!!!
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I can't say I like the look of either the Ionic 5 or 6, but I do think Hyundai should get props for being brave enough to make them. They are certainly amongst the most interesting designs on the road.
Not many cars are that attractive only ugly or exotic shapes or colours gives attention.
No need to suffer with a Tesla anymore, when you have high quality EVs like this.
Exactly
Ioniq 6 over the model 3 for many reasons.
My friend is buying a long range model 3, so we’ll be able to compare.
What would the reasons be?
I'd do the EV6 over the Ioniq 6 myself but that is more about styling. Telsa isn't even a consideration anymore.
What’s the verdict?
It’s better than expected.
It’s the awd 20 inch wheel model.
It had the 12v battery replaced after 10.5 months and updates for the ICCU charge unit and recall check for inner drive shaft.
It’s range is 285 miles going up and down mountain ranges, over 300 miles on the flat.
Very happy with it.
Interesting numbers...but keep in mind that for commuting, a Bolt will buy you about the same efficiency as shown in the video for about half the price. Yes, the Ioniq 6 charges much faster and has all sorts of extra bells and whistles that the Bolt doesn't have, but for a routine commute that you charge for at home, none of this matters.
Bolt has heat pump? I live in Canada. Winter needs heat pump.
Reasonable commuting. By the way, I have difficulty communicating because I had a stroke in Broca’s area, the part of the brain that controls speech. 2/8/2021 but I lived again. (My wife helped me compose this.)
Thanks Anna for ... well... everything!
wouldve really liked u to test the efficiency of the most efficient version
Its a gorgeous car and looks to be a pleasant interior to be in. I was wondering what is the cabin noise level, the tires seem pretty loud at highway speeds?
Its superquite!
21:01 yesss !
Awesome 😍👍
I really think the AWD Ioniq 5 with the 19” wheels and 235 tires gets significantly better range than than the top trim Limited with bigger wheels and tires. For some reason Hyundai only lists one EPA range number for all trim levels. I suspect it’s from the Limited.
How does the real world range of the Limited AWD compare to that of the 2023 Model 3 Long Range?
This car is insanely comfy to drive.... Like too comfy,
i am not fan of external design reminds me about some kind retro style particularly old Hundai coupe WITH THAT SAID I LIKE BACK END not so front of the car 🤔
I feel like 1 pedal could work fine with just the rear motor 90% of the time.
It looks like your phone is too shiny because it creates glare or reflection on the car when you are filming the car you should get a matte finish phone case juste notice that good video anyway .
Sorry!! Ionic 5 is too boxy, the 6 is more streamlined. The pixel look is really retro. Looking forward to kia's ev 9 trials
So much whining about “EVs don't have enough range," and we know most will cheerfully take the 20-inch wheels, and sacrifice 15% of their range, because it looks cool.
Tire pressure should be consistent with these tests.
was it me or was there an excess of noise/road noise in this video, and can you get an addon from your cell phone with a db meter showing the noise readings?
Could you not use miles per energy unit (kw/h or gallon) but use something that better shows efficiency gains like energy unit per given distance (e.g. 100 km or miles).
Is the cruise control able to handle stop and go traffic comfortably? And what happens if a car cuts in closely in front of you, does it comfortably "see" it and slow to keep a safe distance or does it slam on the brakes?
still have been thinking about getting an ev but can pull the trigger. i do like your reviews on vehicles, however, at 19:20ish you did one thing that really sucks. those lines on the sides of roads have meanings. dashed lines are for exits and are meant to be crossed, solid lines like you blew through jumping to the exit at the last minute are meant to be a "do not cross" type of boundary. basic driving skills are needed for getting a license, which are poorly tested by dmv and accomplished by drivers anymore. you can take this coment as you will. delete it, leave it for the trolls whatever. i'm sitting here quite a few drinks in and easily notice the horrible driving just performed that pisses off so many decent drivers. i'm not perfect either, 1 accident in 30 years so far. i challenge anyone to actually READ the manual for their state and really look at things next time you go to work. i drive 35 miles each way daily for work, i can count at least 15 + daily for all kinds of faults, lights out, trailer lights not working, crossing double white lines, lane changes, no turn signals, the list just goes on. lets the comments commence, i dont care, just drive better.
First eight minutes are a waste of time
It's a cockroach; it better be efficient at 70mph.
no way Iam paying 50 to 65k for a Hyundai
I paid 63k and love it
@@bigdi77 U GOT PLAYED WHEN YOU SELL IT ITS ONLY WORTH 23K LOL
@@Kimbrough87 I am good my stinger I traded held it's value quite well
Why? Racism? Or you think it is a 1988 Excel?
@@bigdi77 Ev6 is Better
Reminds me of an Infinity J30. Very ugly car.
I really wish they would offer the top trim of this with the 18 inch wheels. Larger wheels are worse in pretty much every way other than some people think they look better.
Not available as an option over there? I know it is an option over here in Europe.
@@Hans-gb4mv Doesn't seem to be, if you get all the fancy features of the top trim you have to have the giant lead weights making your car miserable too.
@@Snerdles The curse of Hyundai USA strikes again, seemingly making things harder or worse for us in comparison to Europe or Korea.
Completely agree. If I bought one of these I'd order the 18 inch wheels separately and just swap them on myself. So irritating they can't offer them from the factory.
I also considered buying 18” wheels after market but then you can have problems with odometer calibration and warranties
Seems pretty efficient, nice work Hyundai!
I personally think the SE is the way to go if you want to get this car. Nothing that you get in the higher trims seems worth the extra cost to me, but I'm sure others will disagree.
Totally agree. The differences between the SE and the higher trims are very minimal, and you have to lose range to get those higher trims on top of the higher price. Seems like a no brainer to me
@@hawxchampion523 Imma offer the opposite opinion... I have an SEL RWD and I often find myself wishing I had gotten the Limited instead. They cut out a lot of creature comforts on each trim lvl and those vented seats would be amazing in summer and anything that reduces your AC needs greatly affects range. It would also be nice to be able to have the user profiles, the 360 camera for parking cause its a very wide car and i've already scrapped the nice wheels twice because it can be hard to get a new, wider car parked.
The range/ charge time is pretty damn good and while I will be getting some after market wheels 18" for it, I've already done a 1000 mile road trip from NC to PA & back and I only had to charge 4 times during the trip. The extra range would have probably reduced it to 3 but in all honesty we needed the stops to get food and coffee.
@@dakotapahel-short3192 I actually agree that I would go for the Limited over SEL if you can afford it. The best of all worlds is the Limited and putting 18 inch rims and wheels on it, but that's also the most expensive. For me the value pick is the SE if you don't care about the things that you could get with the higher trims.
someone needs to tell Hyundai to offer the RWD with smaller wheels on higher trim levels. The most appealing thing about this car is the range.
3.5 miles/kWh is not efficient. Model 3 can go 5 miles/kWh.
Fast charging is so expensive these days. Will take higher efficiency in a heartbeat
The design is wicked, and looks like u get nice range too.
The screen of Model 3 is the problem. I have to twist my neck too much even to check the speed. With the Ioniq 6 all the important details are right in front of you.
For sure. I would not consider the Model 3 either.
I thought the same thing to be honest before I bought mine. But it's right at the top corner of the screen. When considering the line of view it sits right at the 2 o'clock edge of the steering wheel. I barely even have to move my eye focus to see the speed, let alone physically move my head. Yes, I would still prefer a secondary HUD or column instrument display, but it's far less of a deal than I initially thought it was going to be.
You should consider getting checked out if your eyes are fixed to your skull like that.
Kyle, when you get the car and do an official range test, any plans to put the aero wheels on a Limited or SEL to see the effect on range?
Who is Ana?
Only problem is it is ugly Looks like an old Infinity I30 (I think that is the name) with the top part of the back looking like a Porsche and and the bottom looking like the front bumper of some car. Oh, and compared to the Ioniq 5 it is cramped with the full console.
❤ the inside, shame it is over priced. My verdict by a Tesla😂
When do you think we can see a Lyriq review?
Kyle though that 3.8 could be going downhill.
My model 3 RWD is getting 4.44 miles/kWh through my first 1527 miles. I thought this was supposed to be more efficient than the model 3.
Dang, you edited the watt error before I could get my joke posted :)
Yep I realized my mistake right after I hit send. What was the joke?
This is very dependent on the driving you did and speeds that were used. In a addition the car above was with the large wheels and AWD. The 3 has way less features and a smaller size which contribute to a weight difference and drag difference.
@@gregkramer5588 of course it depends. But these numbers aren’t in the same ballpark. Of my 1527 miles 600 of them came from a trip from Dallas to San Antonio at an average speed around 70 mph. We probably have another 500 miles or so driving on the highway in Dallas at speeds in excess of 70. The discrepancy between my model 3 and others that you can find on other videos RUclips is minimal. What you see with this ioniq 6 is consistent with other estimates and they are all less than the 4 miles/kWh. Long story short, this isn’t the Model 3 killer it was touted to be. Plus the model 3 comes with more options standard.
@@mgarcia8878 I can hit 4 mi/kWh on my M3 Long Range without even trying. I have to be travelling more than 75 mph to get less than that. This is in 50F+ weather of course. And I'm in eastern MN, where it's a little hilly with the river valleys, but generally flat.
When it's flat, no wind, and 70F, I'm hitting 5 mi/kWh on the 65 MPH highways. I've hit as high as 5.2 before on a 25 mile stretch of flat road at 65 MPH with a slight tail wind.
How the cars look is subjective, of course but to me the Ionic 5 is a strange mashup of hatchback and 80s blocky stying. The Ionic 6 is nicer from the front but wow, what happened with the rear?? Haha. Thanks Kyle and Anna!
Yeah they really should have just kept the back straight instead of curving down and looking like a dog taking a dump
Did you see anyone with boxes walking out of the Lucid factory?
But great road cars also need software linked to navigation system that lets you know you battery/range accurately. Then you need charging THAT WORKS. Thus, I love my I5, but we bought Tesla YLR for the road.
I'm looking toward future tests with the 18 inch wheels and RWD as well.
I don't care how well it performs if it looks that ugly.
Is the front leg room really bad? Your knees are above the wheel, almost in your chest. Concerning for me at 6'5"
No, this car has a few issues, but legroom is actually excellent. This guy's driving position is wEiRd.
@@Marcus_Wulfhart Yeah, I did test drive the Ioniq 6 after this video, and was impressed by the leg room, especially since I had the driver's seat in my 6'5" position (all the way back), and still had plenty of room in the back seat for me.
Just sat in one. Tons of room for tall dudes. Very comfortable. He likely didn't have the seat adjusted right for him.
Yeah, Kyle just likes to sit like that. To each their own
I am really waiting on the efficiency data to make my decision about which EV to buy. If it is as efficient at the EPA numbers indicate it should be more efficient than the Model 3. I am after efficiency so just waiting for the actual testing data. Hopefully we will see the real tests SOON! I want to see that base aero model test!
I am interested in the SE RWD LR for the efficiency and range. Would like to know if it is just a wheels swap to get the better economy. Could someone just buy the higher trim RWD car and swap for the 18" wheels and get that 361 miles number? Would like to know if it would be that simple to get the longer range. I want to know how that all stacks up to the most efficient RWD Model 3.
I am thinking the same. i wish the big wheel were a stand alone option.
I would say 100% yes, changing the wheels will get you the 361 mile range (or VERY close to it). There are no other big differences between the trims that would affect the range at all. The biggest one that comes to mind, and it's only on the LImited, not the SEL, is the sunroof, but I doubt that would make any noticeable difference to the range, versus having no sunroof, if installed correctly and giving no drag.
Outside of that, there is absolutely nothing that would cause the range to drop, outside of maybe 1 mile, with everything combined. I actually have the Limited and am considering swapping out the tires to get that additional range, but so far it is a non issue for me, as I'm able to charge back up to my desired 80% every night, but would definitely come in handy on long trips.
I know this is probably a dumb question but I’ll ask anyway. I have an ioniq 5 limited AWD that came with the 20in tires. Can I get 18s or 19s and keep the same rims and If I get replacement tires that are 19 or 18s will it give me semi significantly better range?
The 20 inch tires are on 20 inch wheels (or rims as you say). You need different size wheels if you’re going to go with smaller tires. 19 inch tires go with 19 inch wheels.
You would need 18” rims
I’m still Little Leary of Hyundai with all the issues I’ve had with their ICE cars
EVs too. Look up ICCU failures.
had 3 hyundais. all lasted over 200k for me. i still have 2008 elantra. running strong at 250k miles.
@@joec.5009 mainly oil leaking and burning
Ioniq 6 Hyundai claims full OTA on all systems, no mention on the 2024 Ioniq 5 if it will have that same Over The Air software updates on all systems, likely same as mine with only info-system updates OTA.
That's quite terrible actually, the model y can get similar numbers. The original ioniq remains the efficiency king...
Btw, I regularly get 4.0-4.2Mi/kWh while driving Uber in my Ioniq 5, mostly in Eco mode. When not doing Uber, I get like 3.7.
Hey mark so driving Uber you have rwd or awd and 4.0 miles/kWh ...you're getting 300 miles + city?
Zelle sucks. Don't beileve me? Watch what happens when you decide to change phone providers and then make a simple mistake on the app. They'll ban you for an "unspecified" amount of time from the platform for "security" reasons. That's basically whan their rep told me when it refused to take my banking info after changing carriers.
It's a piss poor way of doing business.
omg, i want those scroll wheels. That's one of the best things about my Tesla that I want in my Ioniq 5 too.
That's Bolt efficiency. Not bad at all😊
This car is dull as f... Try BMW i4 and see how much more engaging it is to drive in contrast to this rolling POS.
I don't know if it is the camera angle of filming but it looks like you barely fit in that seat. and too close to wheel... looks uncomfortable. ty for the review.
Ana is very pretty 😍 I don’t know if that’s your wife or not but if it is you are a lucky man.
15:55 nice to hear Anna's opinion. She's looking cozy in that comfy seat.
Why not to make DARK mode for screens? looks terrible
19:35 to get the results.
Crazy rebate and lease deals on this car right now
I looked at the top spec the extra to see if the features justify the cost. It is a big number ($4900) but Hyundai does deliver a lot.
Power folding mirrors
Gloss black exterior accents
8 way power passenger seat
ventilated front seats
driver memory seat
Bose sound system
Heated Steering wheel
V2L in second row
Sunroof
rain sensing wipers
Smart Park
Surround view monitor
Blind Spot monitor
Parking collision avoidance assist
Hmm, Just a bit too expensive for me since some of these I do not care about.
That’s a lot for $900!
@@dennislyon5412 Ooops, $4900
wow. i am not crazy for the cars looks but with that kind of efficency, its definetly worthy of the name Ioniq. might just be my new favorite EV. i wonder if Kia will make a similar model(other than the EV6)
Wouldn’t doubt an EV3 coming soon
There is no tax credit because the car is not made in the US
Driving at 10 over, just like a local driver 😅
I prefer the sedan over the suv.
Just waiting for NACS…
Too bad that the 361mi are on a trim level that is so badly equipped that you almost “must” go to a mod trim and then it becomes a regular “300mi car”. And the higher trims come with wheels that nobody really wants, but they look good, don’t they???
The mid trim doesn’t even have rain sensing wipers. On a 47k$ car.
The efficiency is wasted to equip it with a smaller battery that benefits Hyundai in terms of cost, but not the driver who ends up needing a 47k$ for a not fantastic range….
Kyle, what would you guess the actual effect of cameras for mirrors would be? Like how many miles might be gained in total range?
I’ve thought about this too. I think it’ll be a wash. Because while going to cameras may reduce drag, that extra power has to be used to drive the camera feed and digital display
Educated guess. over 5 but less than 10?
@@rangareddy2531 You're greatly overestimating the power used but a couple of small cameras and displays.
There's been tests done on this with other cars. I think the theoretical range is usually anywhere from 3-6% better fuel economy when removing one (or both) outside mirrors. Obviously a lot of this will differ, dependant on the car, and theoretical is just theoretical, but some actual tests have been done and yielded true results that support that theoretical range.
I suppose the best way to measure this, as it is increasing fuel economy and not overall miles, would be to look at the kWh that the car is getting, and increase it by 3%-6%. For the Ionic 6, say you are averaging 4.5mi/kWh. On the 77.4kWh battery, that would net you ~348.3 miles. Assuming a 3% increase, that would put you at ~358.75 miles, and a 6% increase would put you at 369.2 miles. So anywhere from 10-20 miles additional range.
These numbers are far from exact, but I think they would at least give an idea. As far as the power being used from the digital cameras/monitors that someone else had mentioned, I imagine the impact from the mirror drag is MUCH higher than the impact of running the digital cameras/monitors, so I doubt that would affect the overall increase in range much at all. 10 miles additional range would be a pretty safe bet, with potential for more.
@@mattperham899 With a car with a drag coefficient of 0.22 I would bet it is greater.
If you buy the limited trim, i *believe* based on my own research that you can get closer to the 361 miles with eco mode and by buying the 18" wheels.
Hi Kyle, I watch all of your video and would enjoy meeting you in person. I live in Scottsdale, Arizona. I see your currently in the area. Please let me know if you want to get together if you want a tour around town. Thx.
Alex
Maybe do the tests late at night? Less wind and no traffic might make a more consistent test. And although I like this car, I would still go for the Model 3 due to the charging situation.
What charging situation are you referring to?
@@mattperham899 Teslas can use all the supercharger locations.
@@mattperham899 Tesla Superchargers vs. anything else when road-tripping.
@@recursiv and they almost always work. Not so much for others.
Just for reference, above 50F outside, my M3LR on 18" aero averages ~230Wh/mi, or 4.3mi/kWh on the highway. I can hit 5.0 in good conditions.
When it's around freezing is where I'm getting more like 3.5 to 3.7mi/kWh.
Then 3.0 or less when it's single digits or below 0 outside.
Dude! Awesome videos! All of em you do, but what do you do to have all these bad ass EV’s and cars?
Overpriced
Compared to what?
@@gregkramer5588 Tesla
@@TheJamieleegood I guess I do not see that. The Model 3 Long range would be the closest competitor. Here are the advantages the Ioniq 6 brings. Better build quality, an very good instrument cluster when the 3 has none. Surround view monitor, More space front and back, Ventilated seats, Android auto/carplay, better ride, quiet inside.
You commented how you like the HDA2 so much, which I assume is the same as on the Ioniq5. The only problem I have with the adaptive cruise is that when you use it on roads that have traffic lights it does not notice that cars might be stopped at a traffic light ahead and rather than gradually slow by coasting it races at full speed till the last possible second and then slams on regen to stop. At times I worry that it won't be able to stop. They really need to do an update to the logic they use.
I'd like to know why the lower weight of the 53 kwh version doesn't translate to higher efficiency than the base 77 kwh version.
I want to see what it is at like 80mph sustained. 48mph at 270ish watts a mile is not all that impressed.
Let me interview you by saying 90% of what you want to say and then you can um, yeah thru the rest, ummkay?
Great video and very representative of a road trip. Does the Ioniq 6 have built in dash cam or sentry mode? Frunk?
Any plans to get the 18 inch wheel version to do a proper range test before the weather gets too cold?
FYI, ECO mode does not disconnect the front axel. It changes the allecration profile to use the front motor less often. But if you floor it in ECO it will still use the front motor.
What is the impact of the regen setting? Despite blended braking, style of driving, coasting and how much you actually brake may have some significant impact no?
This is pretty close to my polestar 2 dual motor in these conditions. I'd get 3.6-3.7mi/kWh in these conditions. The polestar does really well if you keep the speed consistent, the stopping here is what would push it to 3.6 end of the range. I can get 3.8mi/kWh at 70mph in traffic free conditions. I have the 19" wheels on the polestar 2.
Looks like there is minimal leg room for anyone over 6’ tall.
Too bad that does not have the more efficient camera side mirrors
What kind of camera is on the front windshield?
This design reminds me of the Citroen DS.
Was this done in eco? I wanna see that vs the rwd
I agree with Anna, best driver seat ever. WAY more comfortable than my Model Y. It is smoother ride and much quieter. Which is why she was falling asleep ;)
It looks like a Saturn SL1😊
Just to be clear, you ran this test in Eco mode, meaning rear wheel drive only (front motor disengaged), correct?
It seems like the smarter manufacturers are moving towards better efficiency and faster charging rather than simply installing bigger batteries. This seems smart to me. Why lug around extra weight (bigger batteries) that only comes into play now and then when, all things considered, you can achieve similar results with efficiency and charging speeds? Plus you’re no longer hauling around all that dead weight that doesn’t benefit you at all for the vast majority of your daily driving - it actually hurts the bottom line.
Good video as always. Me, I’m keeping my M3 SR+. I like that with the Tesla you get nearly the same features and specs regardless whether you get the RWD or the Performance trim.
the green is too dope
The Tesla software clones are funny
Has a Porsche kinda reminiscent whiff to its looks. I like it.