Welcome to "supply-&-demand". No business can charge prices that no one is willing to pay. Plus the highest bidder gets the prize. Quite simple really.
Hell no. I got my 2025 Camry SE for 31k out the door. They are getting greedy and inflating their prices I will not pay it also no Tacoma on earth is worth 58k
@@Tooflytodrown23 exactly. My SE has the fake leather and touchscreen. No sunroof which is actually safer…. So you get perforated leather heated seats bigger touch screen and moonroof for 14k extra??!!! No thanks same engine
Your videos are like buyer's guides, mentioning everyday things like the panoramic roof cover, underside review and possible future issues, the good and bads. Amazing, thank you, really enjoy the videos.
Completely agree with all of your observations, esp. the asymmetry of the exhaust and the cheapness of certain things like not using struts for the hood and no covers for the trunk/stereo and the passenger side cubby. Oh and the horrible use of piano black, just looking at creates hairline scratches.
I recently came to you for a PPI on my 2012 Camry. I’m really glad I drove three hours for you to take a look at the car. It was definitely worth the peace of mind knowing I have a good car. It was great to meet you and your wife.
Beaut video mate. Just bought mine here in Australia three months ago. Our middle spec model is called the Assent Sport. The top model here is called the SL, but the bloody thing is $10000 Australian extra. Cannot justify that extra amount just for a glass roof, heated seats and steering wheel as well as a few other things. Can’t believe the mileage we get out of it, almost 1000 kilometres to a tank. Beautiful car and heaps of power. All your videos are very interesting mate, thank you. Regards from Australia. 🇦🇺
i just want the 5sfe redesigns with the carbon graphite iron block, variable boost centrifugal supercharger, awd, hybrid motors. the interior can be the most cheap and simple, nav and music only, roll down windows
My is 2017 ES350 29k miles bought last month for 27k. Beautiful in and out, smooth drive. Keep the saving money to pay gas instead of hybrid and enjoy the ride. Who cares for CO2 emission will hate me.
Last year my wife and I went in for a new camry. $40k, we put a deposit down but I kept telling her there's no way a mid-tier camry is worth 40. Went down the street to Lexus and drove off in a slightly used is300, then went back to toyota for our deposit. Best decision we made
@tagheuer02 40k for a camry?. And your calling them broke? Kindly, put the clown make up on cause your crazy paying that kind of money for a camry when u can get a slightly used GS350 or even RC350 for less or about that much money alone.
@@jamessmoth8683 what? the IS is almost a Camry in lenght, and around the same in width, they don't share a platform because the IS is more sporty, but it's bigger than a Corolla and not even comparable to one. It's like a Passat vs A4, the A4 is the IS, the Passat would be the Camry. The Lexus ES would be an A6.
The timing of this video is so cool to me. I've had my 2025 for one year TODAY. Very happy with the car. Your videos strongly influenced my purchase and have greatly increased my understanding and appreciation of the car. Thank you, and God bless.
45K In 2025 is $36.2K in 2020 and 33.2K In 2015. When you consider the mandatory features that used to only be available on luxury cars that are now forced on every day cars... Can I get one without folding mirrors for $1K less?
@@stephkent2736 Shoehorning luxury features from 20 years ago and fake carbon fiber into your car, alongside "advanced 360 surround sensor and camera technology" which is federally required, and rocking the MSRP up $10,000. Brilliant!
my niece just got a new 2025 camry se. She actually got a great deal on it for around 32k and it was extremely loaded. She had a 2021 prior to that and would have kept it forever but she wrecked it. She almost bought another one same year as her old one but I convinced her to at least drive the new one, check it out, weight out the gas milage and also see what extra little features she likes. She instantly fell in love with it and its her fav car shes ever had. She is extremely thankful i helped her decide on getting new this time especially because for used she was only going to save about 4000$ lol. She went from having 24-25mpg on the 2021 camry to now getting 48+ mpg in the 2025. Shes extremely happy and I really think its the best camry Toyota has ever made for sure. My wife's got a 2012 with over 200k miles on it and the motor is just as it was the day we got it. Take care of a camry and it will take care of you!
I paid 34k for my 25 Camry. Granted, it’s an SE. but it has everything except AWD and the panoramic roof. Didn’t want the roof. I love mine. Live in WV and I’ve driven it to Kansas, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee and Texas. Love it so far.
Good call on the pano roof. There will come a day when the roller type shade WILL, not if, WILL, fail. Whether it’s the glue that binds it or when the springs age and then it doesn’t open properly.
I paid $5000 in 2018 for my 2011 Toyota Camry Le with the 2.5L 4 cylinder and 6speed auto when it had 120,000 miles on it. 7 years and currently at 193,000 miles and it’s still going strong. I’ve had to do maintenance and some repairs but it’s been a great car. I bought it to get me through the rest of commuting to college and I’m still driving it 5 years after graduating. I bought it with the same mindset as the used 05 Corolla I had before it. A guy ran a red and t boned me at around 50mph and that was the end of my Corolla. But the mindset for both was a cheap to buy/run/repair vehicle that is known to be reliable and be safe. I’m a car enthusiast but knew it working was more important for me to do what I need to do and in the at price range a much safer bet. On those criteria neither have let me down. Haven’t had to work on either car much despite high miles, most of that is expected maintenance even. My Camry just keeps going and going. Toyota likely wouldn’t like this but to me used is where it’s at anyway. They tend to last a very long time. I don’t understand how people buy new cars these days. I’ve owned the Camry for $5,000 and the Corolla for $3,700 for a grand total of $8,700 USD over an almost 10 year period. Granted I can and do work on my own cars within certain limits. But I know people with car payments that are like $700 a month. I’m very poor but still that seems like a gigantic amount per month for years and years. The prices just keeping going up and up too.
I used to think the same way you do, that is until my career started taking off. When I was 43, I bought my first new car, a 2001 Corvette. The new car experience is something special. Since then, I buy only new, the most recent being a 2025 Camry XSE in gorgeous Ocen Gem color. Before that, it was a 45th Anniversary GR Supra, which I still have. Needless to say, I like driving, especially on a winding country road.
Bought my 2002 LS430 with 140,000 miles. One owner, garage kept, no accidents, NO RUST, Lexus maintained. Put on 3k miles. Runs strong and flawlessly. Expect to get 300k miles easily. Paid $8500 USD. No payments. Oh, woe is me....NOT!
@Shabbe02 I started out as an engineering technician after graduating from a technical college. By age 38, I was promoted to mfg. engineer after working as a designer. Along the way were relevant certifications.
To say that canceling the Avalon is one of the worst mistakes Toyota has made recently would be a bit of an exaggeration, but it's still super sad. That final gen of Avalon was really nice, and a refresh could've made it one of the best sedans on the road.
I have a 2019 XSE. It is the best car I've ever owned. I would buy a new one right now. My only gripe is the 8 speed transmission tuning. It bucks a little. The 6 speed was better.
Best sedan wouldn’t be an Avalon or a Toyota. They are appliance cars. Best equals the most fun and best looking. Toyota is not fun. They just drive normal and get you from point A to B.
I recently toured the Toyota car plant in Georgetown, Kentucky. The factory is several miles long and HUGE. The tour is free, but you need to make a reservation. It takes about one hour.
Ever since you’ve showed me how to change oil on my 2018 Camry many years ago I watch these videos like it’s a cookout conversation 😂 Very insightful video!
My 2025 Camry LE was only $33,000. I’m perfectly happy with it so far. As for the 2020 Camry LE that I used to have, the transmission finally failed last month. It went 462,654 miles. I think I did three fluid changes but probably should’ve done more. I credit Toyota reliability and The Car Care Nut for helping me take care of my car and make it last that many miles.
It's an aluminum hood, very light weight, that is likely one of the chief reasons Toyota switched to a prop rod. Why add weight, cost and something that will wear out? I prefer the prop rod.
I got a 2025 Camry SE with moonroof, cold weather, and convenience packages for 33K OTD last summer. Original MSRP of $34.5K. No complaints so far and it has everything I need. I’d say the SE is the sweet spot.
Personally, I don't really like the changes made to the 2026 RAV4. While the front end seems nicer to me than that of my current RAV4 2 HEV 2WD (Made in Japan), I don't like the interior. There's no progress in terms of comfort or presentation! The very geometric dashboard, the disappearance of the rotary knobs, the two ugly compartments for charging cell phones, etc. are not aesthetically pleasing. No improvement in that area, or even worse, and in the end, I still prefer the old one. But the worst thing, here in France, is that the combined power goes from 218 to 183 hp!!!! So, you'll be buying a RAV4 with a price increase that's to be expected, with the power of a Corolla!!! Toyota is making fun of its customers. I'm not a customer for this new RAV4;
Still driving my 2010 Camry with 235,000 miles. Change the oil every 5000 miles with synthetic. Bought it with 60K seven years ago. Very nice to drive.
5k is too often for synthetic, you can do 10k-20k no problem. I have 301k on my 2011 SE V6 and change it every 20k with mobile-1 synthetic and it runs perfect, doesn't use any oil in 20k miles, and my engine is nice & clean inside, and lab used oil analysis shows my engine is wearing normally and the oil is still good.
Always LOVE your unbiased review. Good or bad, you always call it the way it is.
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Not sure you can say he's unbiased. I love his videos and respect his opinion, but it's funny how he can tell us about past problems with a model and then right after say they are reliable. No one can tell me a Hybrid is " reliable" when the update model has only been out a few years.
AMD, Where it is available*, the Camry LE AWD is the one to buy. With 16" alloy rims and very generous sidewall, the LE provides Poor Man's Air Ride Suspension™, better mpg and much lower tire replacement costs over the life of the car. If you have $45,000 burning a hole in your pocket at the Toyota dealership or a soon-to-expire gift certificate of the same value🤑, the Crown Signia XLE is the one to get. 🤩🤩🤩🤩
@@Marcus-id5ur We live in snow country but we're retired and rarely have to go anywhere when there is snow on the roads. Although we did get stuck in a snow storm in Memphis, TN and had to drive back to Salem MS but with just FWD and Michelin CrossCountry2 tires, we had no problem.
I feel like a Camry should never be more than $35K. It’s true, if you’re paying $45K, might as well be getting another car, whether SUV or Lexus or other.
One point about the bushings and knuckle replacement. CCN makes an excellent point that Toyota should redesign this. Trust me. I had to replace a knuckle for an old foxbody Mustang and because of it's age it was nearly impossible to find a knuckle. That will be future Camry owners in 20-25 years.
I saw one yesterday and was wondering if the whole rear clip was a mod as it looked so tacky (it was a white 2025 and I thought it was riced out because it looked so bad :(
I appreciate your honesty. I picked my 2024 Camry hybrid SE, no sunroof (less problems down the road) for just a little over 30k last year, brand new. The SE is the sweet spot. More affordable and has all you need. Even the LE with smaller wheels is great for the better mileage. But the SE had a better all around package. Still wish I was getting 50mpg instead of 45-47 but it’s wonderful!!! Way better than a Prius! No comparison!
Sun Roofs are so dumb. If I wanted sun I'd get a convertible. In fact, if I was stuck with one, Id remove the glass sunroof and retrofit a fiberglass panel for weight reduction 😂
Totally agree with you that price is too high, it’s just not worth it. I had an Avalon that I used as a daily driver for commuting. I was great but when I retired a let it go and bought a RAV4.
I had the same thought with the potential of going from a 2021 ES300h to a 2023 ES300h. The 2021 price of around £36-37k was around the limits of what I was willing to pay. And the cars had grown to the point where they aren't easy to get around in on the tighter UK roads and car parks. I actually went back in time to a 2018 CT200h Premier with all the toys. Fast forward to 2025 and a ES300h Premium (the base UK model) in blue is £43,945. A Premium Plus (incidentally with a really bad choice of just white, grey and greyer is £49,095. It's too expensive. Thanks for another super informative quality review !
Good video, I am glad that you covered the prop rod problem. I do disagree with you about the V6, it is greatly missed…it was smooth and made it a great highway cruiser.
Hood struts are more costly, they weigh more and they are less reliable than a prop rod. The switch to a prop rod likely coincides with the switch to an aluminum hood which is light as a feather. Toyota will remove things from cars if they determine they are not value added. If people complain enough they'll likely add them back in, but I'd prefer a simpler prop rod.
I’m from the Middle East, currently we have the non-hybrid 2.5 and 8AT because this is what people here trust and this is what suits our climate the most. Fuel is so cheap here (1.9 dollars per gallon for premium fuel) that paying extra for the hybrid makes little sense for most people. Also, our authorized service centers still use 5W-40 on these engines and our own manuals say that we can go anywhere between 0W-8 and 5W-40 due to the high heat (reaching over 140F/50C regularly during the summer). While hybrids do exist in the Middle East, they’re still less than 10% of all Toyotas on the road (from my own anecdotal observations).
Hood struts are more costly, they weigh more and they are less reliable than a prop rod. The switch to a prop rod likely coincides with the switch to an aluminum hood which is light as a feather. Toyota will remove things from cars if they determine they are not value added. If people complain enough they'll likely add them back in, but I'd prefer a simpler prop rod.
To be clear, I do agree that car prices are way too high compared to 20 years ago. But my parents bought an Avalon 10 years ago and paid $45K CAD, so I don't think it's entirely fair given time/money. Also, the ES350 is $10K CAD more than the Camry XSE. That's a lot more money. That said, I'd probably splurge and get the ES350 (the V6 is appealing), or the ES250H cause it's AWD which is important in snowy conditions. This is a fantastic review, please keep them coming, love it!
TBH, I would go with Camry, IMHO it drives better and is more comfortable compared to old ES (comfortable does not mean quiet 😀). The new ES will, most likely, be considerably better ... and more expensive.
Great review. I agree on the Toyota pricing. I ordered a Corolla Cross Hybrid XSE and after waiting over a year bought an almost new Lexus UX F Sport for the same price! I suspect that they may even have upped the price on the CC if I continued to wait. Maybe it's a strategy to get people jumping into the Lexus instead? I don't know, but the ride, tech, features and comfortable seats in the UX, plus it almost gets the same gas mileage has left me happy with my decision. The only con is it's just a little smaller than I would like. I 2021 Lexus 300NXh would have been another good option at the time I think.
@jxmar But only with a $4000 Ultra Premium option. We were able to get the dealership to include the sensors (which the dealership contracts, locally) to include the front and rear parking sensors at no extra cost._
The base Camry LE & the XSE trim featured in this video difference is mostly appearance package & tech upgrades yet there is around $13k price difference. A smart person would know that the LE is the better value. It even achieves 5 mpg better than XSE using the same powertrain.
Top trims are rarely the best 'bang for the buck' it's only valuable if someone REALLY likes JUST the Camry (not the ES or anything else) and wants a fully loaded one
The best bang for the buck is the second from the top trim, or a top trim with no extra options added. That’s what I’ve noticed. The second from the top trim for most models gives you basically everything the top trim has minus a few small items for way less. In this case, the best bang for the buck is an SE or an XLE with no options. You just might have to order an XLE with no extra packages/options because dealers typically don’t carry that. I had to do that and wait a while but loved what I got.
@@KNRS927 that makes sense, it's also especialy good to check this on used cars. I bought an old minivan last year, its was the 2nd from top trim, and it had nice options like multizone AC, tow package, and powered doors. Makes a lot of difference, while the price was the same as other models from same year.
The best bang for buck is any trim you can negotiate the best discount on, and this varies based on multiple factors, mainly inventory levels. Upper trims are typically the easiest ones to get a big discount on because they tend to be abundant on dealer lots. The brands want their most expensive models out in the wild, even if they have to sell them at a discount. Toyota is the exception. They rarely deal which is why I don't buy Toyotas anymore. They've gotten too greedy.
Yeah, that trim is the best for the used market. The top trims tend to carry a huge premium, and there really isn’t gap in price between the middle trims so might as well go for the top of the middle. Even for a Camry lover, $45k is insane. I had a 2003 Camry for 21 years before it got totaled, and I loved that car. Even then, I was apprehensive about spending $45k on a new midsize sedan and most I was willing to go was about $35k. Luckily, I found one around there and hopefully this one can go as far as my old one did.
@@dlg5485Toyotas don’t have to give you big discounts because they know their cars will last forever, at least the right ones, and buying one is like an investment. They also know that even if you don’t buy, there’s 10 people waiting that will so you’re replaceable to them easily. However, top trims or second from the top usually are the easiest as you mention to negotiate on typically because the lower models are what the price-elastic consumers want and those fly off lots quickly. Take a look at the maverick. XLTs fly off the lots but the Lariat and Tremor models sit for days and can be negotiated.
Nice car. I considered buying new but I ended up getting a 2019 ES 350 last year for about $27k with 47,000 miles and perfect service history. I’m also not crazy about using 0w-8 oil either. I know people say you can run 0w-20 in these because it’s the same engine but it’s a roll of the dice if you do anything against the owners manual.
I have the same car w/out AWD. I paid around $43k. When I was negotiating with the sales guy he presented me an offer with a mark-up that was more than MSRP. I told him, nice try, let's start over. Overall a nice car and the gas mileage is phenomenal.
I really hope that Toyota watches your videos and considers your critiques for improvements down the road. They should also throw a little compensation your way for the benefits they get
Make sure it's not rebuilt title. Toyota doesn't lose much value with 12K miles and same model year! Maybe $5K less than new would be typical price for that.
The median income working American today ($60K/year) on a responsible, sustainable budget cannot afford a monthly car payment that exceeds $400/month. But, people will bury themselves in unsustainable debt to buy whatever they want & predatory dealerships & lenders will indulge them. To afford this ~$45K vehicle on a responsible budget with no cash down payment or trade credit you would need to earn around $140K/year gross income (would be a $900-$1000/month loan payment at least).
Listen, you can only hold the hand of a stupid person so much. People have to be responsible for their crappy choices. You can’t blame anyone but the stupids. The market will react when people stop being dumb and spending enormous amounts of money for vehicles. That’s the only thing that’s gonna change things.
That's BS. You can easily afford to pay more than 10% of your net income on a car if you like. Most of the world pays a much larger percentage and they're fine.
This is why a lot of used car dealers setup shop outside military bases. They prey on fresh meat with guaranteed income from 19 year olds who don’t know any better. In the end the people who can’t afford this car are the ones asking for loan forgiveness debts. So they can buy things like this and so the cycle repeats. Have the, in my family
@@Hiromandt Not with the crazy cost of housing today, unless you are stacking multiple paying roommates, not to mention prudent savings for emergencies & retirement. Plus, the expensive vehicles that most people want also have stupid-high insurance rates. Auto loan default/repo rates keep going up because all those factors together create a precarious situation & people living at the absolute cusp of their income & being one bad/unlucky event from financial implosion and/or homelessness.
Excellent review, Mr. AMD! Thank you so much! You’re a true guide to the world of Toyota for so many of us! I bought the XLE version and I’m very happy with the car. Of course, as you often mention, there are a few minor points. The panoramic roof curtain might sag over time. While there’s enough space in the front for tall people, the rear seats definitely aren't suitable for tall passengers. My biggest concern is the use of 0W-8 engine oil, which is recommended for environmental standards but may come at the cost of engine durability - at least, that’s what my intuition tells me. Interestingly, in manuals for the same model sold in other countries, it’s allowed to use thicker oil to enhance engine longevity, especially under harsh driving conditions. I’m probably going to lean toward using a slightly thicker oil, as long as it doesn’t harm engine components.
I have a 2025 Camry LE with all the best options and I have had it now for 11 months. It rides better then the XLE and it gets better gas mileage and it has 16" wheels. and I only paid 31,000 for it. I get 54 to 55 MPG in the summer and 48 MPG in the winter. This is a great car and the LE is the best model to buy.
LE and SE trim is where the real value is found. (2025 SE in ocean gem owner) The only notable options I wish I had are the double panel acoustic glass, cooled/ventilated seats, and the panoramic roof.
@@symbiotezilla12345welcome to 2025. You need to consider that the previous generation was built/designed during a period that labor was way cheaper than today. Add the current uncertainty of the tariff, and the costs will just keep going up at a faster rate. If you don’t like it, get a lower trim and avoid unnecessary options. 🤷🏻♂️
Ouch! We bought a new ‘20 Camry LE Hybrid during COVID for $25K. I added a set of near-virgin 16” Enkei alloys (off FB Marketplace), a Toyota chrome exhaust tip, side moldings, etc. for a “poor-man’s Lexus”. 75K miles later, and at 52mpg, I still got a smokin’ hot deal.
Love this video. We just bought a 2025 XLE AWD. After watching, I'm even happier with our purchase of the XLE over the XSE. As for price... 100% expensive. All vehicles are rediculous prices. Though, a strong volume dealer can help bring that price down a bit. I highly recommend shopping around. Regarding the ES350, I can see potential to make the jump. However, the ES350 lacks AWD (XSE w/o AWD -$1,525). Then, to match the ES350 to XLE/XSE in features, the ES requires the addition of the Premium Premium (+$2,790), 12.3" touch screen (+$2,110), Panoramic Roof ($500), Spoiler ($500), HUD ($500), etc. By then, you're well over $50k. Then your asking, "Hmmm... what could I get if stretch my wallet to $55k?" LOL.
I bought a 2011 es350 with 100k miles for $11k the day you made the video about that model. Best car ive ever had. Would not spend 4x as much, but the new camry really doesnt seem that bad, just not for me. I like the v6 with the regular automatic.
Same, I despise when companies do this. Physical buttons and knobs are extremely important to change common settings while driving. Unlike having to go through multiple setting levels on a touch pad, it is easier to adjust physical controls without looking.
I was sitting behind a new Camry yesterday and was SHOCKED that the tail lights and turn signal lights are SO TINY!! NOT safe in areas where there is heavy snow six months of the year! In the near future, I see Toyota eliminating rear lights on their cars!
got a le for 29k and I love it, I get 51 and I do a lot of driving about 82 miles a day, drives great and put that baby in sport and it will spin tires
I love my 2020 Camry XLE with navigation/moon roof. It's Silver and has the black roof. For $140 I had the side windows darkened and now I get a lot of complements how great it looks. Last year I added Continental Extreme tires to give me better handling. Great vehicle and will be with me forever.
I bought a new 2019 Avalon Limited which is always garaged, always detailed clean and with 38,000 miles it looks and drives like brand new. I'm sure some will laugh but I would not sell it today for what I gave for it because I could not replace it with a comparable car. If it isn't totaled in an accident it will be my last car because I am 82 years old. I have driven Avalons since 1996. I bought a Demo 1995 XLS in 96 because I wasn't sure I would be satisfied with Toyota after driving GM cars almost my whole life. I traded it for a new 2000 XLS which is now my granddaughter's daily driver with 160,000 miles. Suffice it to say I am totally satisfied with Toyota. Oh, I also have a 2006 Tacoma TRD Sport with 68,000 miles. Of all the Toyota's, replacing the 2000's timing belt and water pump is basically all I have spent outside of basic maintenance. AMD I watch all your videos and learn something from each one.
I think you're spot on here! I went to the website and built me a ES 300 ultra luxury so less than $10,000 more I can have something that's really nice.
Great review! I agree the pricing is what will extinct the sedan. I apologize but I think the quality of the Nissan Sentra you reviewed is better than this Camry. Also it looked like I saw some rust underneath forgive me if you mentioned that, I didn’t hear it. But solid review. Thanks!
I got my camry xse fully loaded (only option in Canada) a couple months ago, so far very happy with it. I watched a whole lot of your videos to prepare for it
I agree. $45K for a Camry? LOL!!!!! Plus, you are forced to pay for that full glass-roof, $1,300. !!!!!!!! That's $1,300 you could knock off the price, if they gave you the option to NOT be forced to pay for an "option" that you don't want. Come On TOYOTA!!! Most excellent informative video!
I have almost this exact car, minus the premium package. I ended up getting it for 39k from my dealer. I love it. Drives very well, and it very smooth.
The Camry starts around 30K, which is fine. You don't need all the bells and whistles. I think it's just people with lots of excess money that get full optioned cars. I aim for the bottom trim. I don't live in my car. Only AC and Cruise control are must have options for me, and those are usually included even on bottom trim these days.
I always buy the lowest tier of a model. My thinking is it saves money and has all the core elements in it. The 'extras' usually mean more electronics and often fairly new and less tested features so more that can go wrong. If I can, I buy the new car just before a new overhaul is announced of the model. In that case you get the latest refinement of the existing model which often has known issues resolved.
@@singular9 Some people just want new and maybe don't care if it's a Lexus. And buying a Tesla is not saving you any money. Trash cars with far worse reliability and cost of repair than a Toyota.
The people that get the highly optioned car are those that want a luxury like experience without paying the extra for the luxury brand’s model. It’s not necessarily because they have deep pockets.
My 2012 Camry SE V6 was perfect in size and price, $26,500. Got totaled and a 2019 Camry SE I4 at $24,000 was okay but a lesser car all around. The 3.5 V6 was the best in my experience. Pricing and useless tech ruined the Camry as well as Interior changes that were uncomfortable on long trips. I want my two 1985 Celica GT-S Coupe and fastback back. Simple affordable and attractive. And I’ll take back my 1982 SR-5 Pickup too. Toyota isn’t what it used to be. But Im old and grumpy LOL.
Nice! How do you like it? Is it pretty roomy for road trips? My ‘07 Camry still has a few years left on it and I love it, but my wife and I are leaning towards the Crown for our next purchase, just for a little more room and the fact that it’s made in Japan.
Your presentations are 99% substance. You are one of the best voices on cars ( Toyota ... ).
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That's why I like this channel versus a regular "car review" channel. Because AMD doesn't defend these ridiculous prices.
Welcome to "supply-&-demand".
No business can charge prices that no one is willing to pay. Plus the highest bidder gets the prize. Quite simple really.
Hell no. I got my 2025 Camry SE for 31k out the door. They are getting greedy and inflating their prices I will not pay it also no Tacoma on earth is worth 58k
A $14,000 price delta between a base model and a fully loaded model isn’t that much.
@@NomenClature-o8sfully loaded has features that u don’t need throwing money away
I also got a SE for $31.087 included the convenience and weather package. No Sun roof and the small infotainment. But I like it
@@Tooflytodrown23 exactly. My SE has the fake leather and touchscreen. No sunroof which is actually safer…. So you get perforated leather heated seats bigger touch screen and moonroof for 14k extra??!!! No thanks same engine
@@Tooflytodrown23That’s subjective and Toyota gives you the option of not buying the “features you don’t need.” The base model is $28,400. 🙂
Your videos are like buyer's guides, mentioning everyday things like the panoramic roof cover, underside review and possible future issues, the good and bads. Amazing, thank you, really enjoy the videos.
I fully agree! The only thing missing is him taking the car for a test drive
Completely agree with all of your observations, esp. the asymmetry of the exhaust and the cheapness of certain things like not using struts for the hood and no covers for the trunk/stereo and the passenger side cubby. Oh and the horrible use of piano black, just looking at creates hairline scratches.
I recently came to you for a PPI on my 2012 Camry. I’m really glad I drove three hours for you to take a look at the car. It was definitely worth the peace of mind knowing I have a good car. It was great to meet you and your wife.
The seller let you drive the car 3 hours for an inspection?
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Obviously.
@@mrpandamaniaI drove 3 hours for the car then drove 20 mins to his shop !
If it passes CCN’s inspection , it’s better than Toyota CPO.
@@ratshackmojoexactly!
My 2000 4 cylinder camry with 318k miles is doing just fine.
That thing will survive until the heat death of the universe
But it is a 2000😅🎉
Does it burn oil?
My 2011 with 263K is doing just fine
Until you get in a wreck with it - with a new 5000lb SUV, and get crippled for life.
The very best car reviewer anywhere, great job, very PROFESSIONAL!
His reviews are like his taste in interiors. No Gimmicks.
Are you to going to tongue his cornhole?
Yeah, can’t beat this guy on details
Beaut video mate. Just bought mine here in Australia three months ago. Our middle spec model is called the Assent Sport. The top model here is called the SL, but the bloody thing is $10000 Australian extra. Cannot justify that extra amount just for a glass roof, heated seats and steering wheel as well as a few other things. Can’t believe the mileage we get out of it, almost 1000 kilometres to a tank. Beautiful car and heaps of power. All your videos are very interesting mate, thank you. Regards from Australia. 🇦🇺
If you don't understand Sir...This days the concept "Make cheap, ask more" has reached the legendary level.:-))
110% on point!. I hate it here!
i just want the 5sfe redesigns with the carbon graphite iron block, variable boost centrifugal supercharger, awd, hybrid motors. the interior can be the most cheap and simple, nav and music only, roll down windows
I’m going to keep my 2015 Lexus ES350 with 42K miles thank you…and it’s paid for!
I love that gen ES, it’s so elegant.
45k in 10 years? Wow
Gotta drive it more
My is 2017 ES350 29k miles bought last month for 27k. Beautiful in and out, smooth drive. Keep the saving money to pay gas instead of hybrid and enjoy the ride. Who cares for CO2 emission will hate me.
Holy shit those are low miles. Does it still smell new?
Last year my wife and I went in for a new camry. $40k, we put a deposit down but I kept telling her there's no way a mid-tier camry is worth 40. Went down the street to Lexus and drove off in a slightly used is300, then went back to toyota for our deposit. Best decision we made
Tiny little car, sorry you're broke lol
A IS300 is a corolla
@tagheuer02 40k for a camry?. And your calling them broke? Kindly, put the clown make up on cause your crazy paying that kind of money for a camry when u can get a slightly used GS350 or even RC350 for less or about that much money alone.
@@jamessmoth8683 what? the IS is almost a Camry in lenght, and around the same in width, they don't share a platform because the IS is more sporty, but it's bigger than a Corolla and not even comparable to one. It's like a Passat vs A4, the A4 is the IS, the Passat would be the Camry. The Lexus ES would be an A6.
@@jamessmoth8683IS300 is a rear drive sedan. Not anything like a Corolla…lol.
The timing of this video is so cool to me. I've had my 2025 for one year TODAY. Very happy with the car. Your videos strongly influenced my purchase and have greatly increased my understanding and appreciation of the car. Thank you, and God bless.
Which trim did you get
Also, how much did you pay?
@sammyjammy6647 jew jew money goyum price
Just a few years ago, $45,000 could get you into a plethora of sleek luxury vehicles…
That was a well equipped X3 and maybe even a base model X5.
45K In 2025 is $36.2K in 2020 and 33.2K In 2015. When you consider the mandatory features that used to only be available on luxury cars that are now forced on every day cars... Can I get one without folding mirrors for $1K less?
@@stephkent2736 Shoehorning luxury features from 20 years ago and fake carbon fiber into your car, alongside "advanced 360 surround sensor and camera technology" which is federally required, and rocking the MSRP up $10,000. Brilliant!
$45,000 still could get you into a plethora of sleek luxury slightly used vehicles.
my niece just got a new 2025 camry se. She actually got a great deal on it for around 32k and it was extremely loaded. She had a 2021 prior to that and would have kept it forever but she wrecked it. She almost bought another one same year as her old one but I convinced her to at least drive the new one, check it out, weight out the gas milage and also see what extra little features she likes. She instantly fell in love with it and its her fav car shes ever had. She is extremely thankful i helped her decide on getting new this time especially because for used she was only going to save about 4000$ lol. She went from having 24-25mpg on the 2021 camry to now getting 48+ mpg in the 2025. Shes extremely happy and I really think its the best camry Toyota has ever made for sure. My wife's got a 2012 with over 200k miles on it and the motor is just as it was the day we got it. Take care of a camry and it will take care of you!
32k? Foolish
@@Tone_Of_DialsWorth of you are keeping the car more than 10 years.
People were complaining about dealership markup transparency so now they hid it in the MSRP. Even used cars are marked up $10K.
I paid 34k for my 25 Camry. Granted, it’s an SE. but it has everything except AWD and the panoramic roof. Didn’t want the roof. I love mine. Live in WV and I’ve driven it to Kansas, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee and Texas. Love it so far.
Good call on the pano roof. There will come a day when the roller type shade WILL, not if, WILL, fail. Whether it’s the glue that binds it or when the springs age and then it doesn’t open properly.
Same, i didn’t get the extra lights or the panoramic roof incase something fails its doesn’t cost astronomical amount of money.
Only extras I got was the sunroof and DashCam.
AWD is a must
@@kjk4795I have a 2022 Camry with AWD. Had a blowout in one tire and didn’t care for the fact that I had to buy 4 new tires because I blew out one.
I paid $5000 in 2018 for my 2011 Toyota Camry Le with the 2.5L 4 cylinder and 6speed auto when it had 120,000 miles on it. 7 years and currently at 193,000 miles and it’s still going strong. I’ve had to do maintenance and some repairs but it’s been a great car. I bought it to get me through the rest of commuting to college and I’m still driving it 5 years after graduating.
I bought it with the same mindset as the used 05 Corolla I had before it. A guy ran a red and t boned me at around 50mph and that was the end of my Corolla. But the mindset for both was a cheap to buy/run/repair vehicle that is known to be reliable and be safe. I’m a car enthusiast but knew it working was more important for me to do what I need to do and in the at price range a much safer bet. On those criteria neither have let me down. Haven’t had to work on either car much despite high miles, most of that is expected maintenance even. My Camry just keeps going and going. Toyota likely wouldn’t like this but to me used is where it’s at anyway. They tend to last a very long time.
I don’t understand how people buy new cars these days. I’ve owned the Camry for $5,000 and the Corolla for $3,700 for a grand total of $8,700 USD over an almost 10 year period. Granted I can and do work on my own cars within certain limits. But I know people with car payments that are like $700 a month. I’m very poor but still that seems like a gigantic amount per month for years and years. The prices just keeping going up and up too.
I used to think the same way you do, that is until my career started taking off. When I was 43, I bought my first new car, a 2001 Corvette. The new car experience is something special. Since then, I buy only new, the most recent being a 2025 Camry XSE in gorgeous Ocen Gem color.
Before that, it was a 45th Anniversary GR Supra, which I still have. Needless to say, I like driving, especially on a winding country road.
Bought my 2002 LS430 with 140,000 miles. One owner, garage kept, no accidents, NO RUST, Lexus maintained. Put on 3k miles. Runs strong and flawlessly. Expect to get 300k miles easily. Paid $8500 USD. No payments. Oh, woe is me....NOT!
@@johnGabryowicz-ev7mz I'm selling our 2006 RX400h with 142,000 miles on it for $9000. I'm the first owner.
@@davepaturno4290what field of work are you in if you don’t mind me asking?
@Shabbe02 I started out as an engineering technician after graduating from a technical college. By age 38, I was promoted to mfg. engineer after working as a designer. Along the way were relevant certifications.
I own a 2010 Corolla LE since 2015. I'm keeping it forever!
Thank you for your professionalism and honesty.
I would never pay 45,000 for a Toyota Camry
ok
Get used to it’s called inflation
I paid 40k for my 2020 XSE v6
45k is 20 k 22 years ago 🤡
Nope 😂
To say that canceling the Avalon is one of the worst mistakes Toyota has made recently would be a bit of an exaggeration, but it's still super sad. That final gen of Avalon was really nice, and a refresh could've made it one of the best sedans on the road.
I have a 2019 XSE. It is the best car I've ever owned. I would buy a new one right now. My only gripe is the 8 speed transmission tuning. It bucks a little. The 6 speed was better.
Best sedan on the road? Idk what your standards are but might I interest you to look at the BMW M4, Cadillac CT4/5 V Blackwing, even the Lexus IS500.
@@majed6956A bucking transmission is the worse feeling. That’s why I hated Camrys.
@@svang1991Exactly!
Best sedan wouldn’t be an Avalon or a Toyota. They are appliance cars. Best equals the most fun and best looking. Toyota is not fun. They just drive normal and get you from point A to B.
I recently toured the Toyota car plant in Georgetown, Kentucky. The factory is several miles long and HUGE. The tour is free, but you need to make a reservation. It takes about one hour.
That would be cool.
Same in Ontario Canada where Lexus 450 /NXand Rav 4 built
I have been 4 Toyota facilities, TMMK and 3 in Japan
Ever since you’ve showed me how to change oil on my 2018 Camry many years ago I watch these videos like it’s a cookout conversation 😂
Very insightful video!
what i love most about this camry for $45k you don't have to worry about suspension parts rust, they are pre-rusted from the factory
I noticed that, but it's Chicago, salted streets rusty rides, my daughters cars I get for her in Montana last 7 years max then time for new one
😂😂😂😂😂
Toyota camry creeping in to Lexus ES territory
Hasn’t ES just taken its own step up though for its new model year?
That's another $7 - 10k.
Creeping? It's already there though with lower quality plastic interior build quality.
Congratulations- he says that in the first 20 seconds
I bought a 2023 ES300h a couple months ago for $37k (was $42k new). A 2025 is about $50k. Price creep is getting outta control
My 2025 Camry LE was only $33,000. I’m perfectly happy with it so far.
As for the 2020 Camry LE that I used to have, the transmission finally failed last month. It went 462,654 miles. I think I did three fluid changes but probably should’ve done more. I credit Toyota reliability and The Car Care Nut for helping me take care of my car and make it last that many miles.
100k miles per year? wtf do you do and are there still SEATS???
For a transmission to fail at almost half a million miles is pretty impressive
LEss is more when it comes to Camry.
Curtain ring sales? Google Maps car?
@@kanob6440 Yeah, but if he did a drain and fill of the ATF every 60,000 miles it may have still been working.
I saw your video about adding hood shocks to a later Camry with all part numbers included. Did it right away, very nice addition!
Please copy and paste the link, I need it.
It's an aluminum hood, very light weight, that is likely one of the chief reasons Toyota switched to a prop rod. Why add weight, cost and something that will wear out? I prefer the prop rod.
Can’t beat the Avalon, I have 2 of them love em!!
I'm not interested in most of the cars n this channel, but I enjoy listening to him talk about them. He is very calming. Thanks for the reviews.
Was looking for this exact make and model. Will have to change direction to the ES350. Great review, thanks
The Camry looks better and is overall better. Plus, the Camry has 1/2 the maintenance cost.
@@righteousone1that's not even remotely true, just google 10 year maintenance cost for each car, the Lexus is like $1K more.
I got a 2025 Camry SE with moonroof, cold weather, and convenience packages for 33K OTD last summer. Original MSRP of $34.5K. No complaints so far and it has everything I need. I’d say the SE is the sweet spot.
Did u pay cash or get a loan with them or a bank of urs??
@@TheGoodOlBoyzChannel Toyota Financial Prime rate
Agree 1,000% about RAV4 putting the HVAC controls in the screen. How dumb!!!!
Like a Tesla. Its a pain in the ass.
Personally, I don't really like the changes made to the 2026 RAV4. While the front end seems nicer to me than that of my current RAV4 2 HEV 2WD (Made in Japan), I don't like the interior. There's no progress in terms of comfort or presentation! The very geometric dashboard, the disappearance of the rotary knobs, the two ugly compartments for charging cell phones, etc. are not aesthetically pleasing. No improvement in that area, or even worse, and in the end, I still prefer the old one. But the worst thing, here in France, is that the combined power goes from 218 to 183 hp!!!!
So, you'll be buying a RAV4 with a price increase that's to be expected, with the power of a Corolla!!! Toyota is making fun of its customers. I'm not a customer for this new RAV4;
I absolutely love my 2024 prius xle. Watched your video on it. Helped me alot with my buying decision
Still driving my 2010 Camry with 235,000 miles. Change the oil every 5000 miles with synthetic. Bought it with 60K seven years ago. Very nice to drive.
5k is too often for synthetic, you can do 10k-20k no problem. I have 301k on my 2011 SE V6 and change it every 20k with mobile-1 synthetic and it runs perfect, doesn't use any oil in 20k miles, and my engine is nice & clean inside, and lab used oil analysis shows my engine is wearing normally and the oil is still good.
Always LOVE your unbiased review. Good or bad, you always call it the way it is.
Not sure you can say he's unbiased. I love his videos and respect his opinion, but it's funny how he can tell us about past problems with a model and then right after say they are reliable. No one can tell me a Hybrid is " reliable" when the update model has only been out a few years.
AMD, Where it is available*, the Camry LE AWD is the one to buy. With 16" alloy rims and very generous sidewall, the LE provides Poor Man's Air Ride Suspension™, better mpg and much lower tire replacement costs over the life of the car.
If you have $45,000 burning a hole in your pocket at the Toyota dealership or a soon-to-expire gift certificate of the same value🤑, the Crown Signia XLE is the one to get. 🤩🤩🤩🤩
wish the crown signia got updated with the new generation hybrid system though like in the Camry
AWD is a sucker's play unless local weather/road conditions demand it.
@@ShepherdsSheepdogwhich is about half the country.
Yup, for $45k, the Crown Signia is the car to get.
@@Marcus-id5ur We live in snow country but we're retired and rarely have to go anywhere when there is snow on the roads. Although we did get stuck in a snow storm in Memphis, TN and had to drive back to Salem MS but with just FWD and Michelin CrossCountry2 tires, we had no problem.
I feel like a Camry should never be more than $35K. It’s true, if you’re paying $45K, might as well be getting another car, whether SUV or Lexus or other.
at $45k im getting a 4runner or mercedes GLC
Suv sucks
One point about the bushings and knuckle replacement. CCN makes an excellent point that Toyota should redesign this. Trust me. I had to replace a knuckle for an old foxbody Mustang and because of it's age it was nearly impossible to find a knuckle. That will be future Camry owners in 20-25 years.
That fake exhaust tip also annoys me a lot.
I saw one yesterday and was wondering if the whole rear clip was a mod as it looked so tacky (it was a white 2025 and I thought it was riced out because it looked so bad :(
I appreciate your honesty. I picked my 2024 Camry hybrid SE, no sunroof (less problems down the road) for just a little over 30k last year, brand new. The SE is the sweet spot. More affordable and has all you need. Even the LE with smaller wheels is great for the better mileage. But the SE had a better all around package. Still wish I was getting 50mpg instead of 45-47 but it’s wonderful!!! Way better than a Prius! No comparison!
The SE i think is a good buy but for me, i would wait and buy used and get an xse. Does your se have heated seats and steering wheel?
Sun Roofs are so dumb. If I wanted sun I'd get a convertible. In fact, if I was stuck with one, Id remove the glass sunroof and retrofit a fiberglass panel for weight reduction 😂
You can change your rims and tires to 16" to match LE's 50mpg.
@yankeesusa1 No, I live in Texas... I don't need that... lol!
@@SnkobArts Our other car is a convertible... and it only gets top down in nice weather and not too hot or cold... lol
Got my 25 Camry le with convenience package for 29k OTD. Can't beat that value.
When? Im getting 33k quotes but with convenience and cold weather.
Totally agree with you that price is too high, it’s just not worth it. I had an Avalon that I used as a daily driver for commuting. I was great but when I retired a let it go and bought a RAV4.
Price is high but it's worth every penny. The RAV4 is a good SUV but it's too small lol
I had the same thought with the potential of going from a 2021 ES300h to a 2023 ES300h.
The 2021 price of around £36-37k was around the limits of what I was willing to pay. And the cars had grown to the point where they aren't easy to get around in on the tighter UK roads and car parks. I actually went back in time to a 2018 CT200h Premier with all the toys.
Fast forward to 2025 and a ES300h Premium (the base UK model) in blue is £43,945. A Premium Plus (incidentally with a really bad choice of just white, grey and greyer is £49,095. It's too expensive.
Thanks for another super informative quality review !
Good video, I am glad that you covered the prop rod problem. I do disagree with you about the V6, it is greatly missed…it was smooth and made it a great highway cruiser.
Hood struts are more costly, they weigh more and they are less reliable than a prop rod. The switch to a prop rod likely coincides with the switch to an aluminum hood which is light as a feather. Toyota will remove things from cars if they determine they are not value added. If people complain enough they'll likely add them back in, but I'd prefer a simpler prop rod.
Fun fact: some parts of the world have these Camrys as gas only models. Chinese ones come with 2.0 and CVT, Middle East has 2.5 and 8AT trims.
Middle East also gets brown leather interior
wish we had the gas only model . biden ruined the car market
I’m from the Middle East, currently we have the non-hybrid 2.5 and 8AT because this is what people here trust and this is what suits our climate the most. Fuel is so cheap here (1.9 dollars per gallon for premium fuel) that paying extra for the hybrid makes little sense for most people. Also, our authorized service centers still use 5W-40 on these engines and our own manuals say that we can go anywhere between 0W-8 and 5W-40 due to the high heat (reaching over 140F/50C regularly during the summer). While hybrids do exist in the Middle East, they’re still less than 10% of all Toyotas on the road (from my own anecdotal observations).
ME has both options my boy
Don't you mean eCVT instead of CVT? I don't think any Toyotas are available, even in China, with a plain CVT.
Here, the typical Toyota customer is NOT The Care Care Nut!! LOL!! Great video!
correct
Camry's use to have hood struts. Charge more and cheap out on little things.
Well , this system is simple , holds forever , good choise....
Hood struts are more costly, they weigh more and they are less reliable than a prop rod. The switch to a prop rod likely coincides with the switch to an aluminum hood which is light as a feather. Toyota will remove things from cars if they determine they are not value added. If people complain enough they'll likely add them back in, but I'd prefer a simpler prop rod.
You provide the most informative reviews on cars. Thank you 🙏🏼
I like my 2025 Camry SE with AWD, it was around $30,000. The gas mileage is great and it’s a comfortable for road trips.
Color?
@@kjk4795 I have metallic Black.
To be clear, I do agree that car prices are way too high compared to 20 years ago. But my parents bought an Avalon 10 years ago and paid $45K CAD, so I don't think it's entirely fair given time/money. Also, the ES350 is $10K CAD more than the Camry XSE. That's a lot more money. That said, I'd probably splurge and get the ES350 (the V6 is appealing), or the ES250H cause it's AWD which is important in snowy conditions. This is a fantastic review, please keep them coming, love it!
At this moment , there is no AWD available on the ES Hybrid.
I think the 45K to new generation camry is too much rather go for ES350. Spot on review, thank you, Eid Mubarak.
TBH, I would go with Camry, IMHO it drives better and is more comfortable compared to old ES (comfortable does not mean quiet 😀).
The new ES will, most likely, be considerably better ... and more expensive.
The dude is Christian my man. Eid Kareem
The price will only increase, especially after the 2026 ES350 awful reveal lol
I can Remember when The Camrys with The Manual Transmission ( clutch) were selling for $15k brand new 😮😮
He has a video about one of those.
Ok, boomer!
@@rightlanehog3151link please 😮
Great review. I agree on the Toyota pricing. I ordered a Corolla Cross Hybrid XSE and after waiting over a year bought an almost new Lexus UX F Sport for the same price! I suspect that they may even have upped the price on the CC if I continued to wait. Maybe it's a strategy to get people jumping into the Lexus instead? I don't know, but the ride, tech, features and comfortable seats in the UX, plus it almost gets the same gas mileage has left me happy with my decision. The only con is it's just a little smaller than I would like. I 2021 Lexus 300NXh would have been another good option at the time I think.
Great in-depth and transparent analysis and review really appreciated you!
These days higher trims are pretty much useless, base models now have cruise control parking sensors and lots ugly screens.
Parking sensors are reserved for the XSE and XLE trims.
@jxmar But only with a $4000 Ultra Premium option. We were able to get the dealership to include the sensors (which the dealership contracts, locally) to include the front and rear parking sensors at no extra cost._
The base Camry LE & the XSE trim featured in this video difference is mostly appearance package & tech upgrades yet there is around $13k price difference. A smart person would know that the LE is the better value. It even achieves 5 mpg better than XSE using the same powertrain.
@@saikim-w9iand it’s faster😉
@@jxmar_ If you need parking sensors, you're an idiot, and probably shouldn't be behind the wheel of a motor vehicle.
Top trims are rarely the best 'bang for the buck'
it's only valuable if someone REALLY likes JUST the Camry (not the ES or anything else) and wants a fully loaded one
The best bang for the buck is the second from the top trim, or a top trim with no extra options added. That’s what I’ve noticed. The second from the top trim for most models gives you basically everything the top trim has minus a few small items for way less. In this case, the best bang for the buck is an SE or an XLE with no options. You just might have to order an XLE with no extra packages/options because dealers typically don’t carry that. I had to do that and wait a while but loved what I got.
@@KNRS927 that makes sense, it's also especialy good to check this on used cars. I bought an old minivan last year, its was the 2nd from top trim, and it had nice options like multizone AC, tow package, and powered doors. Makes a lot of difference, while the price was the same as other models from same year.
The best bang for buck is any trim you can negotiate the best discount on, and this varies based on multiple factors, mainly inventory levels. Upper trims are typically the easiest ones to get a big discount on because they tend to be abundant on dealer lots. The brands want their most expensive models out in the wild, even if they have to sell them at a discount. Toyota is the exception. They rarely deal which is why I don't buy Toyotas anymore. They've gotten too greedy.
Yeah, that trim is the best for the used market. The top trims tend to carry a huge premium, and there really isn’t gap in price between the middle trims so might as well go for the top of the middle.
Even for a Camry lover, $45k is insane. I had a 2003 Camry for 21 years before it got totaled, and I loved that car. Even then, I was apprehensive about spending $45k on a new midsize sedan and most I was willing to go was about $35k. Luckily, I found one around there and hopefully this one can go as far as my old one did.
@@dlg5485Toyotas don’t have to give you big discounts because they know their cars will last forever, at least the right ones, and buying one is like an investment. They also know that even if you don’t buy, there’s 10 people waiting that will so you’re replaceable to them easily.
However, top trims or second from the top usually are the easiest as you mention to negotiate on typically because the lower models are what the price-elastic consumers want and those fly off lots quickly. Take a look at the maverick. XLTs fly off the lots but the Lariat and Tremor models sit for days and can be negotiated.
$45000 car with no hood struts ! Come on, Toyota
Plus single exhaust on only one side with a FAKE second tip.
Best manufacturer
Lol
Those gas charged struts will go bad after a while end up costing you more in the long run
My ‘07 Camry SE (which I still drive) even has the hood struts.
Spot on as usual, thank you for your thoughtful review and professional opinion.
👍
Thanks
I’m still driving my 2005 Camry and love it.
Nice car. I considered buying new but I ended up getting a 2019 ES 350 last year for about $27k with 47,000 miles and perfect service history. I’m also not crazy about using 0w-8 oil either. I know people say you can run 0w-20 in these because it’s the same engine but it’s a roll of the dice if you do anything against the owners manual.
I disagree with the roll of the dice comment. Our you still in warranty, even then, prove it.
I love his honest opinion open-minded and genuine no bull talk
Is that a gaye pride symbol with a hole in the middle? Hah haaaaaah
Honest? 🤣
Let me guess your a mechanic too😂@@i.d.6492
I have the same car w/out AWD. I paid around $43k. When I was negotiating with the sales guy he presented me an offer with a mark-up that was more than MSRP. I told him, nice try, let's start over. Overall a nice car and the gas mileage is phenomenal.
I really hope that Toyota watches your videos and considers your critiques for improvements down the road. They should also throw a little compensation your way for the benefits they get
I found this car 2025 with 12k miles for $34k, doesnt seem bad at all. Might go take a look at it
Make sure it's not rebuilt title. Toyota doesn't lose much value with 12K miles and same model year! Maybe $5K less than new would be typical price for that.
Everyone saying the Camry has crept up to ES territory, but the next gen ES has now been revealed and looks like it will be taking its own step up.
I always thought the avalon was as close to ES since the avalon was a step up from the camry,
Meh the new one is targetting the Chinese market. I think it's a downgrade.
Base Lexus always come with something fugly, forcing you to go at least two trims up to make it livable.
Next gen ES looks like a huge POS
The median income working American today ($60K/year) on a responsible, sustainable budget cannot afford a monthly car payment that exceeds $400/month. But, people will bury themselves in unsustainable debt to buy whatever they want & predatory dealerships & lenders will indulge them. To afford this ~$45K vehicle on a responsible budget with no cash down payment or trade credit you would need to earn around $140K/year gross income (would be a $900-$1000/month loan payment at least).
Listen, you can only hold the hand of a stupid person so much. People have to be responsible for their crappy choices. You can’t blame anyone but the stupids.
The market will react when people stop being dumb and spending enormous amounts of money for vehicles. That’s the only thing that’s gonna change things.
Dumb is growing exponentially, I think we’re toast
That's BS. You can easily afford to pay more than 10% of your net income on a car if you like. Most of the world pays a much larger percentage and they're fine.
This is why a lot of used car dealers setup shop outside military bases. They prey on fresh meat with guaranteed income from 19 year olds who don’t know any better.
In the end the people who can’t afford this car are the ones asking for loan forgiveness debts. So they can buy things like this and so the cycle repeats. Have the, in my family
@@Hiromandt Not with the crazy cost of housing today, unless you are stacking multiple paying roommates, not to mention prudent savings for emergencies & retirement. Plus, the expensive vehicles that most people want also have stupid-high insurance rates. Auto loan default/repo rates keep going up because all those factors together create a precarious situation & people living at the absolute cusp of their income & being one bad/unlucky event from financial implosion and/or homelessness.
Excellent review, Mr. AMD!
Thank you so much! You’re a true guide to the world of Toyota for so many of us!
I bought the XLE version and I’m very happy with the car. Of course, as you often mention, there are a few minor points. The panoramic roof curtain might sag over time. While there’s enough space in the front for tall people, the rear seats definitely aren't suitable for tall passengers.
My biggest concern is the use of 0W-8 engine oil, which is recommended for environmental standards but may come at the cost of engine durability - at least, that’s what my intuition tells me. Interestingly, in manuals for the same model sold in other countries, it’s allowed to use thicker oil to enhance engine longevity, especially under harsh driving conditions. I’m probably going to lean toward using a slightly thicker oil, as long as it doesn’t harm engine components.
Yes it’s worth it. It’s fast enough, smooth, quiet, comfortable, safe, reliable and economical. It’s got most modern features as standard.
I have a 2025 Camry LE with all the best options and I have had it now for 11 months. It rides better then the XLE and it gets better gas mileage and it has 16" wheels. and I only paid 31,000 for it. I get 54 to 55 MPG in the summer and 48 MPG in the winter. This is a great car and the LE is the best model to buy.
LEss is more when it comes to Camrys.
???@@rightlanehog3151
I own it, and its mpg ranges from 55 to 63, with the gas tank holding enough fuel for 550 miles.
Might as well get a slightly used Lexus ES. More luxurious and cheaper
Yes. got a 2018 ES350 with 22k miles excellent condition needs nothing for $27k
A significant number of people vehemently refuse to buy anything preowned even if it’s 40% off and has 450 miles.
great review!!
Please review 2025 highlander. need to know if it is worth buying .
Thanks
LE and SE trim is where the real value is found.
(2025 SE in ocean gem owner)
The only notable options I wish I had are the double panel acoustic glass, cooled/ventilated seats, and the panoramic roof.
Greed is the reason for that price.
Inflation pal and buckle up because is going to get worse over the summer.
@@Marbindyou tellin me this car inflated by 7-8k over the last generation’s xse?
@@symbiotezilla12345welcome to 2025.
You need to consider that the previous generation was built/designed during a period that labor was way cheaper than today.
Add the current uncertainty of the tariff, and the costs will just keep going up at a faster rate.
If you don’t like it, get a lower trim and avoid unnecessary options. 🤷🏻♂️
"Greed" you mean inflation caused by irresponsible governments that only care about spending trillions
@@MarbindInflation is 2.3%. It’s at a 4 year low.
Ouch! We bought a new ‘20 Camry LE Hybrid during COVID for $25K. I added a set of near-virgin 16” Enkei alloys (off FB Marketplace), a Toyota chrome exhaust tip, side moldings, etc. for a “poor-man’s Lexus”. 75K miles later, and at 52mpg, I still got a smokin’ hot deal.
The 2025 LE is about $28k so not a big difference in price.
No camry is worth $45k
Love this video. We just bought a 2025 XLE AWD. After watching, I'm even happier with our purchase of the XLE over the XSE. As for price... 100% expensive. All vehicles are rediculous prices. Though, a strong volume dealer can help bring that price down a bit. I highly recommend shopping around.
Regarding the ES350, I can see potential to make the jump. However, the ES350 lacks AWD (XSE w/o AWD -$1,525). Then, to match the ES350 to XLE/XSE in features, the ES requires the addition of the Premium Premium (+$2,790), 12.3" touch screen (+$2,110), Panoramic Roof ($500), Spoiler ($500), HUD ($500), etc. By then, you're well over $50k. Then your asking, "Hmmm... what could I get if stretch my wallet to $55k?" LOL.
I bought a 2011 es350 with 100k miles for $11k the day you made the video about that model. Best car ive ever had. Would not spend 4x as much, but the new camry really doesnt seem that bad, just not for me. I like the v6 with the regular automatic.
i miss the days when a loaded up XLE V6 was about $32k
But the minimum wage was about $8/hr at the time. How much do unionized auto workers make per hour at Detroit now?
@@SonNguyen-fc2xg A hell of a lot more than that , between $18 - $32 plus add ons
@@SonNguyen-fc2xg minimum wage where I live is still $7.25 🤣
I paid $11000 for my 1st new cars, Honda accord 1991.
Once a vehicle loses it's physical AC knobs I don't need to know anything else. It's a pass.
Another great video thanks.
Same, I despise when companies do this. Physical buttons and knobs are extremely important to change common settings while driving. Unlike having to go through multiple setting levels on a touch pad, it is easier to adjust physical controls without looking.
Particularly when you know that Honda has already tried it and there was no end to complaints.
I was sitting behind a new Camry yesterday and was SHOCKED that the tail lights and turn signal lights are SO TINY!! NOT safe in areas where there is heavy snow six months of the year! In the near future, I see Toyota eliminating rear lights on their cars!
got a le for 29k and I love it, I get 51 and I do a lot of driving about 82 miles a day, drives great and put that baby in sport and it will spin tires
Definitely do the Lexus if your thinking of this model of the Camry.
And these are all the reasons why I decided to keep my 2020 Avalon Touring. Those Camry wheels look nice though.
Your car's still new. Shouldn't be shopping around again til a decade or more later.
I love my 2020 Camry XLE with navigation/moon roof. It's Silver and has the black roof. For $140 I had the side windows darkened and now I get a lot of complements how great it looks. Last year I added Continental Extreme tires to give me better handling. Great vehicle and will be with me forever.
The Camry drives and looks better though
Hello from Perth Australia!
Why do i press the like button on these eagerly anticipated videos 2 seconds in?
Best channel on RUclips
I bought a new 2019 Avalon Limited which is always garaged, always detailed clean and with 38,000 miles it looks and drives like brand new. I'm sure some will laugh but I would not sell it today for what I gave for it because I could not replace it with a comparable car. If it isn't totaled in an accident it will be my last car because I am 82 years old. I have driven Avalons since 1996. I bought a Demo 1995 XLS in 96 because I wasn't sure I would be satisfied with Toyota after driving GM cars almost my whole life. I traded it for a new 2000 XLS which is now my granddaughter's daily driver with 160,000 miles. Suffice it to say I am totally satisfied with Toyota. Oh, I also have a 2006 Tacoma TRD Sport with 68,000 miles. Of all the Toyota's, replacing the 2000's timing belt and water pump is basically all I have spent outside of basic maintenance. AMD I watch all your videos and learn something from each one.
I think you're spot on here! I went to the website and built me a ES 300 ultra luxury so less than $10,000 more I can have something that's really nice.
Great review! I agree the pricing is what will extinct the sedan. I apologize but I think the quality of the Nissan Sentra you reviewed is better than this Camry. Also it looked like I saw some rust underneath forgive me if you mentioned that, I didn’t hear it. But solid review. Thanks!
Loving the retro buttons and interior, awesome you get all that decade plus old nostalgia at a premium price. Uber customers are gonna love it!
I got my camry xse fully loaded (only option in Canada) a couple months ago, so far very happy with it. I watched a whole lot of your videos to prepare for it
How much was it in Canada? If you don’t mind to say
@@blueplanet1048$54,000 all in (including taxes)
Website say 47k all in plus tax
@@ausafansari3489I got red so it was 48k all in plus tax 😊
Problem is used Toyota's are barely any cheaper than brand new unless it's a 5+ year old toyota with 80k+ km's
I agree. $45K for a Camry? LOL!!!!! Plus, you are forced to pay for that full glass-roof, $1,300. !!!!!!!! That's $1,300 you could knock off the price, if they gave you the option to NOT be forced to pay for an "option" that you don't want. Come On TOYOTA!!! Most excellent informative video!
I have almost this exact car, minus the premium package. I ended up getting it for 39k from my dealer. I love it. Drives very well, and it very smooth.
The Camry starts around 30K, which is fine. You don't need all the bells and whistles. I think it's just people with lots of excess money that get full optioned cars. I aim for the bottom trim. I don't live in my car. Only AC and Cruise control are must have options for me, and those are usually included even on bottom trim these days.
I always buy the lowest tier of a model. My thinking is it saves money and has all the core elements in it. The 'extras' usually mean more electronics and often fairly new and less tested features so more that can go wrong. If I can, I buy the new car just before a new overhaul is announced of the model. In that case you get the latest refinement of the existing model which often has known issues resolved.
The issue is that for 30k you can find great cars that are better. For 35k you can find even better cars, used ES350 or Tesla model 3 for example.
@@singular9 Some people just want new and maybe don't care if it's a Lexus. And buying a Tesla is not saving you any money. Trash cars with far worse reliability and cost of repair than a Toyota.
The people that get the highly optioned car are those that want a luxury like experience without paying the extra for the luxury brand’s model. It’s not necessarily because they have deep pockets.
My 2012 Camry SE V6 was perfect in size and price, $26,500. Got totaled and a 2019 Camry SE I4 at $24,000 was okay but a lesser car all around. The 3.5 V6 was the best in my experience. Pricing and useless tech ruined the Camry as well as Interior changes that were uncomfortable on long trips. I want my two 1985 Celica GT-S Coupe and fastback back. Simple affordable and attractive. And I’ll take back my 1982 SR-5 Pickup too. Toyota isn’t what it used to be. But Im old and grumpy LOL.
XSE trim was created for the 2015 model year
A great Generation of Toyota trucks. Owned an '80 SR5 5-spd. Tough. Fun to drive. It could scoot.
I just got a Crown Signia Limited with advanced technology package for $47,110
Definitely the better deal and vehicle over the Camry imo.
Nice! How do you like it? Is it pretty roomy for road trips? My ‘07 Camry still has a few years left on it and I love it, but my wife and I are leaning towards the Crown for our next purchase, just for a little more room and the fact that it’s made in Japan.
Excellent review, AMD @
Thanks !!
Love my 21 Avalon Limited. Worth the money I for paid it. That Camry is definitely Avalon price territory!! And I got a 300hp V6.