The Metamorphosis of Space: 1999

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024

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  • @thebiggerpicture5827
    @thebiggerpicture5827 3 года назад +217

    Forget space 1999, the amount of production gone into this RUclips video is a work of art!

    • @1locust1
      @1locust1 3 года назад +10

      Great editing.

    • @ergodoy7741
      @ergodoy7741 Год назад +8

      Every cut and reaction from the space:1999 cast and especially the Star Trek scenes were hilarious

    • @Lost-In-Blank
      @Lost-In-Blank Год назад +3

      Only thing is, almost all of those actors speaking highly of Season Two were doing so while trying to sell Season Two, and that was never pointed out. Those actors were not speaking retrospectively or freely, they were trying to sell the show, boost ratings, and get their jobs renewed.
      Apart from that, yes very good video, very tighly edited, and very well researched.

  • @mogznwaz
    @mogznwaz 3 года назад +181

    Season 1. No contest. The music, the sets, the stories - absolutely iconic.

    • @lazynow1
      @lazynow1 Год назад +14

      YES...!!!!!!

    • @simonacuthbert1
      @simonacuthbert1 Год назад +11

      Agree, one hundred percent.

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq Год назад +1

      ​@@simonacuthbert1 Yeah, but ----- would anyone EVER allow storage of nuclear waste on the Moon in such a fashion that it would explode & send it hurtling out of the solar system ?

    • @javiercalderon3312
      @javiercalderon3312 11 месяцев назад +5

      Completely agree

    • @pedrotome9119
      @pedrotome9119 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@DanielAppleton-lr9eq Maybe that's why THIS IS science fiction... No?

  • @murdockscott
    @murdockscott 3 года назад +357

    This opens very old wounds. I loved this show as a kid and was very confused by the second season changes. Every time I have tried to rewatch the series, I get part way into the second season and just get unhappy and can’t finish. My love for the first season and the changes they made trying to make the show more popular are a perfect metaphor for how different from “the crowd” I have always felt. I felt at home with that first season crew of Moonbase Alpha, it was painful to watch a family of wise, truth seeking, wanderers replaced by strange doppelgängers wrestling with rubber monsters.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 3 года назад +22

      No I loved the first season. Hated the second. Was too gimmicky.

    • @davidbwilmoth5181
      @davidbwilmoth5181 3 года назад +17

      I agree. The second season was light years away from the first series. It reminded me of the third season of Lost In Space.

    • @spaceoddity2485
      @spaceoddity2485 3 года назад +10

      Yes exactly

    • @SkyWriter25
      @SkyWriter25 3 года назад +17

      Like most SciFi programs of the era it became little more than a "monster of the week" show as networks tried to milk it for cash.

    • @sail2byzantium
      @sail2byzantium 3 года назад +10

      I have to wholeheartedly agree with this.

  • @mistytharpe3991
    @mistytharpe3991 2 года назад +132

    I really wish that Barry Morse had been part of the second season. He was one of my favorite characters.

    • @paulhunter6742
      @paulhunter6742 Год назад +7

      Barry Moore (Prof.Bergman) was in negotiations with producers. But, they didn't want pay him decent salary.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom Год назад

      he reappears in Farzar!

    • @clauderobotham6261
      @clauderobotham6261 2 месяца назад +2

      He was one of mine as well. I was only 15 years old, yet the wise older person among the crew was very appealing to me. And Mr. Morse was a fine actor.

  • @steffanflint3779
    @steffanflint3779 3 года назад +222

    I much preferred the first series and as a 12 year old was most disappointed with series 2, especially with the loss of Dr Bergman,so much so I wrote in to the fan page at Lookin magazine to complain.I'm still waiting for the reply! Luckily this video answers many questions.

    • @davidmorse6696
      @davidmorse6696 3 года назад +12

      I agree as a 10 year old was most disappointed with series 2, especially with the loss of Dr Bergman as I watched in syndication.

    • @lezlezman1843
      @lezlezman1843 3 года назад +16

      Chances are they are still sifting through all the complaints to this day. Be patient...they might get to yours eventually!

    • @madmike8v72
      @madmike8v72 3 года назад +13

      I felt the same way, I always thought Bergman was the soul of season 1, even if I didn't understand what that was back then. Funny how they were trying to "Americanize" the show but use an English accented Maya as their "breakthrough" character! In any event the 1st season was the best and the 2nd not so much.

    • @mariocarrillo5512
      @mariocarrillo5512 3 года назад

      L

    • @countofdownable
      @countofdownable 3 года назад +3

      @@madmike8v72
      And an English accented Italian.

  • @BroccoliRocks
    @BroccoliRocks Год назад +10

    I had to laugh how positive about the changes the younger Martin Landau was with how honest he was when interviewed as an old man.

    • @Arturod-w4t
      @Arturod-w4t Месяц назад

      I have also realized that, he was quite hypocritical when he was filming the second season and he said in interviews what a man who was earning a salary for participating where he participated should say.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 3 года назад +175

    First season was a killer, the loss of direction in series 2 is very evident on screen. Get bad writers and kiss goodbye to your amazing TV show

    • @shaunhall6834
      @shaunhall6834 3 года назад +15

      Absolutely! The show had so much potential and they blew it.

    • @tma2001
      @tma2001 3 года назад +4

      Anyone been watching the complete rerun on Freeview (Horror) ? I can't believe how bonkers the whole thing appears to my grown-up self! The universe seems to be full of RADA trained thesps speaking the Queen's English and no one bats an eyelid at the absurdity of it all.
      No weightlessness in space, nothing would be lit up in the depths of interstellar space and take 10s of millenia to encounter a new star system (bar the odd space warp which must happen eevry episode otherwise), every derelict alien spaceship has a universal docking port. Computers and calculators that print out onto punched cards, cheap black'n'white CRT monitors everywhere. Eagle spacecraft that are fully resuable with no heat shields or fly like aeroplanes. And some of the effects guys supposedly worked on 2001 - WTF were they thinking! Did they learn nothing from Kubrick ? The list of goofs goes on and on - neither credible science or fiction to be found.
      According to the wiki at least Landau found the scripts dumb. They literally jumped the rubber monster costume ... er shark with Maya though. Series 1 is like Citizen Kane in comparison but that would be damning with faint praise

    • @Docthewrench
      @Docthewrench 3 года назад +6

      Doctor Who fans have felt that in the last few years... With the entire canon being wipeed out . 57 some years dusted...
      We do feel your pain.

    • @theresearcher253
      @theresearcher253 3 года назад +1

      @@Docthewrench Yes, it wouldn't surprise me that Chris Chibnall based his whole career on this :)

    • @tma2001
      @tma2001 3 года назад +2

      ​@Newsbender its no coincidence it was made just before Star Wars - I seem to recall the British crew on that were lulled by what had gone before, into thinking it would be just another naff childrens fantasy (of course from the 2nd half of RoTJ onwards they were proven right !).

  • @rickb.4168
    @rickb.4168 3 года назад +82

    This deserves a remake. The Eagle is still my favourite spaceship ever.

    • @captaingaz66
      @captaingaz66 Год назад +6

      As long as the UK do it NOT the US.

    • @Tony-d4t3j
      @Tony-d4t3j Год назад +7

      Someone previously suggested that crashing so many Eagles was the reason that they are so expensive on eBay.

    • @TheParot161
      @TheParot161 9 месяцев назад +2

      Absolutely iconic!

    • @NickGillings-vf3ye
      @NickGillings-vf3ye 6 месяцев назад +7

      Dinky Eagle Transporter 👊 My brother and I had one with the nuclear flasks and one with the accomodation compartment slung underneath 😎

    • @kza-pm2pg
      @kza-pm2pg 3 месяца назад +4

      I think a remake where the opening jumps back to the 60's where Kennedy is to be assasinated and show Dallas Police storm the shooter and stop the shooting. So Kennedy is not shot creating an alternate time line where one of Kennedys projects is an international moon base. So you wouldnt need to even change the name Space 1999.

  • @qdllc
    @qdllc 3 года назад +72

    The first season had its flaws BUT you DO NOT fix British sci fi by Americanizing it. You destroy what made it unique in the first place by so doing.

    • @NiTeHaWKnz
      @NiTeHaWKnz 5 месяцев назад +7

      You're not wrong. It was utterly destroyed in the second season.
      They can't even get it right when they buy the rights to make their own version of a show. They bought the rights to Fawlty Towers and found no one liked their Basil Fawlty.
      They also bought the rights to a New Zealand show, Outrageous Fortune. They changed it so much, it didn't last 2 episodes. It's called "Scoundrels". Funny thing is, Shameless would the closet to Outrageous Fortune in tone etc 😂😂
      On and more recently, The Office. A UK short show from Ricky Gervais the Americans drew out for 12 years. Worse thing is, it's not even good 😂😂😂😂

    • @colinu9209
      @colinu9209 5 месяцев назад

      Any British creation that the Americans get hold of generally turns to sh1te ! They even had a go at destroying the Inbetweeners and the IT crowd as well 😂

    • @garyzod8818
      @garyzod8818 4 месяца назад +5

      Season 1 was amazing, but season 2 was f##king shit.

    • @docknightphilco4550
      @docknightphilco4550 3 месяца назад +1

      Dang..why is season 2 bad? and says who? just you on here? if anything it was as good as season 1!

    • @qdllc
      @qdllc 3 месяца назад +5

      @@docknightphilco4550 - (1) It was always a “thinking man’s” sci fi…they made it more action-based thinking it would attract more viewers but ruined what made it unique. (2) Not that Maya was bad per se, but her super smarts and shapeshifting ability became a deus ex machina for many episodes. (3) Too many radical character replacements who never existed before (e.g., Tony) or never got a satisfactory exit (e.g., Victor). (4) God awful scripts…even the cast fought with the writers over how nonsensical several of them were.

  • @morantactical1105
    @morantactical1105 3 года назад +42

    The Fred Freiberger “Kiss of Death” graced the final season of many a show.

    • @Tony-d4t3j
      @Tony-d4t3j Год назад +2

      Known as the serial killer.

  • @davidgaul572
    @davidgaul572 3 года назад +367

    Season 1 was clearly superior. The production design alone still astounds me. The stories were clearly better and thought-provoking.

    • @Mystery207
      @Mystery207 3 года назад +11

      I agree when you watch it in order it feels like the show just went to shit and I didn’t know why til now because it’s free on RUclips

    • @trekkiedave7910
      @trekkiedave7910 3 года назад +11

      @@Mystery207
      Season 1 was terrific
      Season 2, not so much

    • @heedmywarning2792
      @heedmywarning2792 3 года назад +16

      And, the Command Center had a much bigger set. I miss those space windows.

    • @davidgaul572
      @davidgaul572 3 года назад +13

      @@heedmywarning2792 The command center was great--four levels including a balcony, rear doors that slid open to the adjacent set, Koenig's office. The cheap set they replaced it with in season 2 was dull, unexciting and unimaginative.

    • @digipeeper
      @digipeeper 3 года назад +6

      The drama and script in Season is the best. But Season 2 was campy(courtesy of Fred Friedburger) but the uniform was a much better improvement with more colors and (insignia)patches where finally added!

  • @antoniomaglione4101
    @antoniomaglione4101 3 года назад +74

    The first season was kind of magic and thought-inducing. The second was an incoherent show. I was a young boy when the series aired; along the years, I watched the first season many times, but I never bothered to watch the second season again.

  • @piketfi8139
    @piketfi8139 3 года назад +8

    As a kid I was just amazed at the idea, the eagles, the sets, and who at that time could have foreseen the communicators... that we all take for granted nowadays. Yet another future vision from Gerry, god rest him.

  • @stephenpochly7003
    @stephenpochly7003 3 года назад +113

    For my money the first season of Space 1999 was the best. It had all the Anderson trademarks.
    Although my favourite Anderson live action show has got to be UFO.

    • @davidjgomm
      @davidjgomm 3 года назад +15

      Did you know that the proposed (and aborted) second season of UFO, with the action set mostly on an enhanced and expanded Moonbase, actually metamorphosed into the first series of Space 1999? Lew Grade has a lot to answer for. He never supported Anderson but was always looking for the next money-maker, which usually meant success in the US market. Even successful series were dumped to this end.

    • @daveroche6522
      @daveroche6522 3 года назад +18

      Purple wigs? Skydiver? Moonbase? SID? Hell yeah.....

    • @heedmywarning2792
      @heedmywarning2792 3 года назад +1

      in UFO... the aliens never sent any females to Earth.

    • @johnbuchman4854
      @johnbuchman4854 3 года назад +3

      Halting a second season of UFO to start Space 1999 was a very poor decision. Space 1999 was so lousy on so many levels

    • @marcwolf60
      @marcwolf60 3 года назад +2

      @@heedmywarning2792 Cause Earth Girls are Easy :)

  • @luisrosado9772
    @luisrosado9772 3 года назад +57

    UFO, and Space 1999 1st season, were two of the best sci-fi adult oriented TV shows in the 70s

    • @proto-geek248
      @proto-geek248 3 года назад +1

      Adult-oriented?

    • @luisrosado9772
      @luisrosado9772 3 года назад +11

      @@proto-geek248 yes, a more mature approach to sci fi

    • @billyroberts6774
      @billyroberts6774 Год назад +2

      TRUTH

    • @Tony-d4t3j
      @Tony-d4t3j Год назад +1

      UFO was just a dumb shoot 'em up/jiggle show. No comparison.

    • @luisrosado9772
      @luisrosado9772 Год назад

      whatever makes you feel better@@Tony-d4t3j

  • @djb6313
    @djb6313 3 года назад +31

    I loved Space:1999 and wished they had more seasons. Hopefully a reboot will be made one day.

    • @ericbrunel8933
      @ericbrunel8933 3 года назад +1

      I'll just drop that here: ruclips.net/video/wVCrmIOqvcU/видео.html OK, it's "only" an audio drama. It had my doubts about it at first, but I went for it anyway, and it works really well!

    • @williamroberts5716
      @williamroberts5716 3 года назад +1

      Hopefully a reboot would have an aerodynamic eagle variant sensible for atmospheric travel.

    • @loanaoftheshellpeople5627
      @loanaoftheshellpeople5627 3 года назад +4

      Wouldn't a remake have to be called-Space 2099 ?

    • @djb6313
      @djb6313 3 года назад +5

      @@loanaoftheshellpeople5627 maybe they could just call it Moonbase Alpha and do away with the year?

    • @RabbitShirak
      @RabbitShirak 2 года назад +1

      @@williamroberts5716 Please no.

  • @AcapulKero
    @AcapulKero 3 года назад +7

    I was a 9 years young when Space 1999 was on TV and I really loved it! Everything looked so real that time without the new visual effects like we see now. Just fascinating!

  • @maplebob23
    @maplebob23 3 года назад +216

    I think the loss of Barry Morse is what really ruined the show for me.

    • @thecocktailian2091
      @thecocktailian2091 3 года назад +16

      Truly he created the biggest whole. The 2nd season wasn't terrible, it wasn't great, but it had a few moments. If it had continued on in the vein of season 1, it would have been another Star Trek in terms of legacy and impact.

    • @astrosci8864
      @astrosci8864 3 года назад +15

      Absolutely agreed. Barry Morse lent an air of credulity to the show. Without him, the show was as good as Blake's 7 (the earliest ones).

    • @mattosullivan9687
      @mattosullivan9687 3 года назад +4

      Barry showed up later in Winds of War & War and Remembrance in the 80s as a couple of different Nazis. He kicked ass love the man

    • @Pixelologist
      @Pixelologist 3 года назад +12

      @@thecocktailian2091 I agree that losing Barry was one of the biggest reasons....but the show's second season - especially the addition of Maya - was pretty cringe-worthy in its own right.

    • @mattosullivan9687
      @mattosullivan9687 3 года назад

      @NikTheFix nice

  • @GonzoDonzo
    @GonzoDonzo Год назад +16

    I always wondered why they switched sets. The first seasons main control room was fantastic.

    • @RagShop1
      @RagShop1 8 месяцев назад +2

      In addition to what was said in the Doc, the shorter 2nd Series shooting schedule needed standing sets for all Alpha locales in Stage L at Pinewood Studios. Rebuilding non Main Mission areas for each show took extra time which they could no longer afford to do, as they'd been allowed to do on Series 1 which was planned to finish in 11 months but stretched to over 15 months. Freiberger was contractually bound to shoot Series 2 in 11 months so Main Mission had to go to make room for other Alpha areas in a standing set complex. Command Center was small but was a decent, user friendly set for the cast.

  • @parkay3560
    @parkay3560 3 года назад +290

    freddie frieburger did for S1999 what he did for star trek's last season- populated it with shite monsters and crap preposterous stories which totally destroyed the credibility of both

    • @lezlezman1843
      @lezlezman1843 3 года назад +35

      Star Trek, Space:1999, Six Million Dollar Man...all died under his stewardship. Obviously science fiction was not his strong point.

    • @honeysucklecat
      @honeysucklecat 3 года назад +6

      You’re wrong.
      I know all the cool people say the first season was best and Obedience is required if you want to be cool.
      But you’re all wrong.

    • @Bruce-vq7ni
      @Bruce-vq7ni 3 года назад +28

      @@honeysucklecat No - Season 2 was just an awful monster of the week kids show.

    • @Nooziterp1
      @Nooziterp1 3 года назад +6

      'It turned into just another sci-fi action series.' Just about sums it up.

    • @Mustang95ism
      @Mustang95ism 3 года назад +24

      Season 2 of Space 1999 was absolute shite! Grotesque shite. Just like Star Trek's Season 3. Embarrassing to watch. Both Anderson and Roddenberry should have been prosecuted for turning their shows over to that utter hack Freiberger. The guy was an incompetent fool. I often wish Star Trek TOS had ended at Season 2 and Space 1999 at Season 1. Instead, both ended as piles of excrement molded in the image of Freiberger's simple-minded, crap vision.

  • @silvereagle2061
    @silvereagle2061 3 года назад +27

    When Landu was plugging the second season, I bet he was biting his lip. He fought Freiberger over the changes and knew the series was heading in the wrong direction. We went from "character build up and great storylines to romance, monsters and oh, that Tony always plugging his Goddamn BEER.

  • @nanoffyourbesyness9577
    @nanoffyourbesyness9577 3 года назад +147

    "We're going to try and put more humor in it " translates to; we're going to dumb it down !

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom 3 года назад +6

      and "more action" but no money to properly film it, so you get awkward wrestling with a guy in a rubber suit.

    • @ruialexandre6197
      @ruialexandre6197 3 года назад +9

      Translation, "americanise"!

    • @wolfgangkranek376
      @wolfgangkranek376 3 года назад +7

      "Lets make this show a joke!"

    • @phmwu7368
      @phmwu7368 3 года назад +3

      In summary: American market

    • @heedmywarning2792
      @heedmywarning2792 3 года назад +2

      always with that "do you guys want to try my new beer?" running gag.

  • @gakabler
    @gakabler 3 года назад +26

    1976 and I was 12 years old. I was so excited to see season 2 of Space:1999. I watched the premier episode of season 2 with my brother. When the episode ended I turned to my brother and asked what happened to the show? He simply shook his head.

  • @iandeeley9033
    @iandeeley9033 3 года назад +45

    A very honest and sometimes humourous Video about the change in Space:1999 between the two series, Well Done Chris Dale!

  • @richardgregory3684
    @richardgregory3684 3 года назад +26

    Year One of the show was unique - on many occasions it had an almost surreal feel to it. You really did get the impression that Alpha was adrift in a very strange and often hostile universe. The stories made you think. Character stuff took second place. Production values were magnificent. It was very "British" and very far away from standard science fiction television. It had a huge gravitas about it, closest thing I can think of it was a TV equivalent to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Sure, the science was often dodgy but the concepts were big and ambitious.
    Year Two was nothing other than bog standard American sci-fi. It wasn;t the same show at all. All rubber monsters, forced "humour" and "romance" and laughably bad stories. A couple of decent ones but it was mostly garbage of the level of shows like Buck Rogers. I wish they hadn't made it at all, it completely desecrated the show. The cast, being professionals, did their best with rubbish material. On it's own it was "Okay" but following on from Year One it looked cheap and tacky.
    Main Mission was a huge and futuristic set, we exchanged that for the cramped Command Centre which in contrast dated very badly (being mostly dressed up oscilloscopes and the like). All that "romantic interest" between Dr Russel/Koenig and Maya/Verdeschi, the painfully awful "humour" like the beer jokes, hilariously dire rubber monsters used over and over again and dross stories.
    The first time I saw Year Two I was absolutely shocked at what they'd turned my much loved show into. Garbage.

    • @billhosko7723
      @billhosko7723 Год назад +3

      b r a v o

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq Год назад +1

      @@billhosko7723 I thought the same thing about "War of the Worlds - the Series ". A good 1st season followed by a 2nd season without explanation for the new alien species. & they killed off 2 popular characters.

  • @ralphjmoeller
    @ralphjmoeller 3 года назад +82

    Great documentary!
    I‘ll say this much for season 2: It gave us Catherine Schell.
    But that‘s about it.

    • @qdllc
      @qdllc 3 года назад +4

      More like Catherine McGuffin...as they often used her to resolve most any plot issues.

    • @odinswolf1969
      @odinswolf1969 3 года назад +8

      catherine schell was in series one guardian of piri

    • @Nooziterp1
      @Nooziterp1 3 года назад +10

      @@odinswolf1969 I was trying to think of that episode. I remember she looked pretty damn hot in it!

    • @charlesking1438
      @charlesking1438 3 года назад +4

      @@Nooziterp1 she was a Bond girl, on her majesty’s secret service 1969

    • @proto-geek248
      @proto-geek248 3 года назад +2

      Her character was horrible

  • @Scifimaster92
    @Scifimaster92 2 года назад +41

    At times, this whole _Space: 1999_ Season 2 debacle reminds me of the the current _Star Trek_ reboot. Particularly Fred Freiberger's conflict of interest regarding the show's characters (similar to J.J. Abrams and Alex Kurtzman's regarding their respective franchise as a whole), the difficulty of reconciling the two seasons (similar to the outright impossibility of reconciling the classic _Star Trek_ canon with the reboot), and the part about the ITC executives' failure to understand the show's appeal and desire to twist it into something it was never meant to be.

    • @stevecam724
      @stevecam724 Год назад +5

      The last 3 Star Wars are a joke.

    • @Scifimaster92
      @Scifimaster92 Год назад

      @@stevecam724 Yes, the Disney _Star Wars_ films also suffer from many of these issues, with the added bonus that many of the changes they made were there solely to appease a toxic minority of fans, namely the rabid prequel haters, thus trying to appeal to a crowd that would hate the end results anyway.
      On another, sadder note, I realize she's not the only one with that name, but these days the name Sylvia makes me think specifically of that teenage girl in Indianapolis who died as a result of severe physical abuse by her babysitter.

  • @GameHopping
    @GameHopping 3 года назад +16

    The first season was so stylish and unique. It also had subtle horror elements. The second season just doesn't work for me.

  • @weedmanwestvancouverbc9266
    @weedmanwestvancouverbc9266 Год назад +23

    Finally, a succinct video that shows what actually happened to this great show. I got to talk with Martin Landau at length during a Con years ago.
    He was everything I had heard about him, intelligent engaging and most of all self-deprecating about his triumphs and tribulations with the various.
    My mom liked him as an actor for his very scary portrayal in the Hitchcock film North by Northwest. I admitted to him that I had never seen it and told me he was a peak Hitchcock film and I should definitely see it. I told him that I always saw his character as the good guy and that this would spoil that.
    My wife is been watching parts of Thunderbirds, Stingray and a few other Gerry and Sylvia Anderson with me and you can see how their work evolved and had a firm grasp on what it was by the time space 1999 came to be.

    • @NickGillings-vf3ye
      @NickGillings-vf3ye 6 месяцев назад

      I loved Martin Landau as an actor - I recently watched North By Northwest for the first time in years and his performance in that is suitably sinister . He was great as Rollin Hand in the original Mission : Impossible ( alongside the lovely Barbara Bain ) He was great in this and in the X-Files , among others .

    • @weedmanwestvancouverbc9266
      @weedmanwestvancouverbc9266 6 месяцев назад +2

      @NickGillings-vf3ye I met Cris Carter when he was Scouting For locations just before X-Files got underway. He'd seen my photographs of industrial spaces at a gallery opening and wanted to know where they were, and I helped him on where to shoot stuff.
      Through his connections I met Robert C Cooper and did work on Stargate Stargate Atlantis. And I also worked on the local production of Battlestar Galactica

  • @peterthegreat996
    @peterthegreat996 3 года назад +20

    The humor of the second season wrecked it . Naturally the end is always uncertain when the earths moon is on a hell ride across the universe. And my ten year old self had a crush on Sandra

    • @pedromarques5948
      @pedromarques5948 3 года назад +1

      Sorry, but Sandra was already taked by me. Try the doctor.

    • @Nooziterp1
      @Nooziterp1 3 года назад

      I can see why. Something about that slightly boyish short hair.

    • @originalmossman
      @originalmossman 3 года назад +2

      Funny you say that about Sandra... Watching this video gave me a weird little kick - seeing an old crush I'd forgotten about for forty years! So you and me both...

    • @GregInTokyo
      @GregInTokyo 3 года назад +5

      @@originalmossman Get in line. I still have a picture of her I took off the TV screen. Major crush. Amazingly I only found out in the last year or so about that little Norwegian film she did just after Space 1999.

    • @Nooziterp1
      @Nooziterp1 3 года назад +2

      @@GregInTokyo Norwegian film? Tell me more.

  • @rjkral
    @rjkral Год назад +5

    Great overview and your dig-deep footage choices for bits of humor and prodding dialog interjections is AMAZING!!

  • @petesmith4498
    @petesmith4498 3 года назад +43

    Year One for me, which I have on DVD and Blu-ray. Hated the change of tone and the loss of Barry Morse and the Main Mission set.

    • @Mangomesh
      @Mangomesh 3 года назад +2

      I always wonder why Barry Morse wasn't in season 2. Just wondered if you recommend the Blu-ray? thinking of picking up season 1 of Space 1999, won't bother with season 2.

  • @DavidSmith-xs3or
    @DavidSmith-xs3or 3 года назад +24

    It's like the same thing that happened to " Lost in Space" when it transitioned from black and white to color. Even though the producers weren't the same as mentioned in this video, "Lost in Space lost its dramatic edge by not keeping Doctor Smith's evil and mysterious persona and making the show silly and campy with guys dressed up as giant vegetables.

    • @loanaoftheshellpeople5627
      @loanaoftheshellpeople5627 3 года назад +1

      In their defense, They were able to get a third season.

    • @anthonyfalzon2100
      @anthonyfalzon2100 3 года назад +2

      Well hold on about LIS. It was not the writers who dreamed up Smith’s popularity, it was the fans who loved his interaction between the robot and himself. And with the robot the other side is Will Robinson. So the three of them took over the show. Because of the fan draw. Remember LIS was offered a fourth season by CBS but Irwin Allen turned it down for budget reasons.

    • @Tony-d4t3j
      @Tony-d4t3j Год назад

      As you recall, almost all the later shows started with "last week, as you recall, we left Will, Dr. Smith and the robot..." The other cast members got very fed up with it and insisted on episodes with something to do. Judy's best episode is Space Beauty, which also features the gorgeous Dee Hartford and a currency called Squandros.

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@anthonyfalzon2100, Can you cite any siurce material that definitively validates that explanation? I've seen and read quite a lot about the matter, including CBS documents which USC has archived, and have never found an incontrovertible answer, with several plausible possibilities being in play.
      It really seems quite startling, IMO, as we're not talking about a show from network TV's earliest days, but rather from the late 60's when a clear paper trail would seem much more likely to be expected, even if the major players may have departed the scene.

  • @theceruleandolphin2829
    @theceruleandolphin2829 3 года назад +9

    Best doco on the show I've seen in years, really enlightening. Poor Morse, losing his wheels.

  • @quantumac
    @quantumac 3 года назад +19

    In my opinion, season 2 gutted the flavor of Space 1999, what made it so appealing to me despite its technical flaws. The first season had a spooky feeling-around-in-the-dark-unknown vibe. Season 2 was bright and happy and we’re-the-new-kids-in-deep-space vibe.

  • @superg50zero32
    @superg50zero32 3 года назад +72

    Count me in as someone who enjoyed series 1 more. Some of the episodes were thought-provoking sci-fi storytelling even adding some creepy horror elements, and the musical score was top-notch. Series 2 was kind of a letdown for me with the monster of the week and some of the lines between characters were just downright laughable and cringe worthy. I will say that adding the character of Maya Is what kept me watching every week, what can I say Catherine Schell Is a beautiful woman. It does have its moments I suppose but I have them both on bluray and guess which one I watch the most. lol

    • @varanid9
      @varanid9 3 года назад +4

      I do enjoy some of season 2 in a pulp fiction sort of way; first couple of eps are pretty good, I liked Bringers of Wonder and Brian the Brain. The one where they end up at the Battle of Hastings comes to mind. Then, we get truly cringe-worthy stuff like The Rules of Luton, All That Glistens, and that mind boggling one where the android starts dancing around Helena to make her horny, LOL, One Moment of Humanity I believe it was called. And, it certainly didn't end on a high note: "The Dorcons", indeed!

    • @varanid9
      @varanid9 3 года назад +5

      One thing nobody can take away from the first season is that it was truly unique. For every drawn out snooze-fest episode, it countered with a truly spectacular one. And I never felt like an effing idiot for watching it, which, for anyone with a brain, can't be said for most of television.

    • @michaelleary9233
      @michaelleary9233 3 года назад +2

      Maya was what kept me watching, I loved her metamorph powers and the monsters she fought.

    • @tma2001
      @tma2001 3 года назад +1

      Been watching a complete run of both series on Horror (UK free to air) for the first time since their original airing and episode 8 The Dragon's Domain was up there with Alien - and this was supposed to be harmless primetime family viewing!

  • @mikaelbohman6694
    @mikaelbohman6694 4 месяца назад +1

    I realise I didn't even see the second season, and I'm all the happier for it. Season 1 made a big impression on me as a kid.

  • @saltof1
    @saltof1 3 года назад +46

    An Idiot in charge killed! the best sci-fi ever (at least in terms of fx and sets)!

    • @charlesking1438
      @charlesking1438 3 года назад +4

      I am waiting for someone to reboot Space 1999 since everything is being rebooted and reimagined because there is a total lack of original ideas today🤦‍♂️

    • @the.mystictraveller
      @the.mystictraveller 3 года назад

      @charles King - we need a 2099 now..

  • @Monkofmagnesia
    @Monkofmagnesia 3 года назад +3

    Losing Victor without explaining what happened to his character was an insult to the fans.

  • @ignorethismessage
    @ignorethismessage 3 года назад +46

    Season 1 was special. I still love the look of main mission in season 1. I would love to replicate it at home for a man-cave but don't have the space or cash. It seemed more open. I liked the stairs that people could climb to look upon the landscape of the moon. I loved how those doors could be opened so that the commander's office could be part of main mission or closed to be his private office. I also have to say that Bergman was my favorite character. I have watched season 1 over and over again but it is very rare I ever play season 2.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Год назад +2

      imagine if there was a season 3?

    • @pedrotome9119
      @pedrotome9119 Год назад +2

      Quite right, Sir: here insde of myself, there is only Season 1. All the rest was/is a nightmare... Closed matter

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Год назад

      @@pedrotome9119 but you know season three had there been a season 3 would have been the nightmare to top all nightmares instead season two took that title by default

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Год назад +4

      @@pedrotome9119 season one is like the first Robocop movie the best and after that they just simply could never match that level of writing ever again it was just crap after that

    • @paulhunter6742
      @paulhunter6742 Год назад

      You have give credit to Season two set design and costume changes were very practical. I always thought Main Mission was way to cavernous, waste lot of energy could be used other things. And what point big bay windows when landscape just dull gray hills and craters?

  • @zacmumblethunder7466
    @zacmumblethunder7466 3 года назад +30

    So the lesson is:
    Don't trust your project to anyone whose name sounds like a cooking instruction.

  • @stephenwilloughby8141
    @stephenwilloughby8141 3 года назад +11

    As a child I liked the second season and actually fell asleep during the first season episodes.
    Watching them again as an adult it was reversed. The second season was silly but had its moments.

  • @SharpblueCreative
    @SharpblueCreative 3 года назад +61

    Season two is awful compared to season 1. I do like some episodes but I missed the season 1 style.

    • @alucard624
      @alucard624 3 года назад +1

      The new intro theme and Catherine Schell were the best things about Season 2. Other than that, Season 2 was very hit and miss. As stiff and wooden as Season 1 could be at times it was better overall in quality.

  • @jpp7783
    @jpp7783 4 месяца назад +6

    I dare say that one of the biggest failings was the shrinking of the set. That big, expansive season 1 set was astounding. And it didn’t feel like a spaceship, with everyone facing forward as if they were driving, but rather dispersed about the room as would be the case in a real command centre.

  • @hgwells1899
    @hgwells1899 3 года назад +33

    Brilliant the way the clips so aptly illustrate the narration, Morse's lift to work being a lol moment for me

  • @elderberry-hamster
    @elderberry-hamster 2 года назад +27

    I loved the series as a kid, but because of two standout episodes that blew my mind in the first season: Force of Life and Dragon's Domain.... there's no contest. Those two episodes scared the crap out of me and stuck out in my childhood throughout the 70s. Also the pilot was just ripping fun...you just knew what was coming with the inevitable explosion! Love that show!!

    • @filovirus1
      @filovirus1 Год назад +1

      Dragon's Domain... had nightmares off and on ever since. they should do a remake of S:1999 but not like the new Trek. make it more like ST:TNG and it would be amazing

    • @historian8214
      @historian8214 Год назад +2

      Dragon's Domain was the most awesome episode to me. That furnace-alien was terrifying, and it was cool to see some backstory on some of the characters.

    • @paulhunter6742
      @paulhunter6742 Год назад +3

      Season One stories were exceptionally good. My favorite was about Commissioner Simmons, the bureaucrat got stuck on Moonbase after explosion launched it out of orbit. Simmons was primarily reason for their situation first place. And what happens to him after hijacked ride aboard Sleeper ship was definitely poetic justice .

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Год назад +1

      Yes Dragons Domain scared the sh1t out of me too. It still does!!

    • @Tony-d4t3j
      @Tony-d4t3j Год назад

      I have to admit, the fate of Simmons has a gruesome fascination.@@paulhunter6742

  • @stormwulf117
    @stormwulf117 3 года назад +47

    Gerry's undoing were the constant attempts to get his shows into the US broadcast market. There's money to be made in US rights I'm sure, but it was never really going to be a thing. He should have kept everything in the UK like the "Carry On" series did.
    And hiring Fred "Grim Reaper of Shows" Freidberger was putting an anvil around the neck of the series.

    • @zaphoddog3878
      @zaphoddog3878 3 года назад +8

      Totally agree. It wasn't like it wasn't doing fine in syndication. Me and all my friends watched it every week.

    • @martinsmith4306
      @martinsmith4306 3 года назад +3

      It was Lew Grade who never stopped trying to get in US markets. Excellent shows were created with his backing but if they weren't successful in the US he would cancel them.

    • @mopar_dude9227
      @mopar_dude9227 3 года назад +2

      @@zaphoddog3878 yeah, why try to get into a market that is 6 times bigger, I mean it isn’t like they were doing this for money. Oh wait, they were doing it for money. Syndication doesn’t pay the production company crap compared to prime time.

  • @dogbadger
    @dogbadger 3 года назад +11

    Season 2 was more familar to me as I was very young at the time, and I guess remembered that more fondly - however watching S1 again as a grown up it was clearly more intellegent and better thought out - that said I still prefer the S2 theme - it was banging.

    • @zarakenpacHidan1736
      @zarakenpacHidan1736 Год назад +2

      Your sentiment mirrors my own EXACTLY; although not being familiar with season 1 robbed me of that conflicting space opera-disco opening theme that had my kids JAMMIN, when I watched episode 1 for the very 1st. time the other day!😆

    • @Lost-In-Blank
      @Lost-In-Blank Год назад

      As I thought, the mistake was trying to create a new series, which Season Two essentially was, but also trying to keep the old audience and old expectations. They might have had success inventing their own new universe rather than culturally appropriating that of Season One.

  • @adamkrenn6323
    @adamkrenn6323 3 года назад +60

    Thank you for acknowledging Silvia Anderson's influence and importance to all of Anderson's shows. I find it bizarre how she is often ignored.

    • @carlgarrett5142
      @carlgarrett5142 2 месяца назад

      She was allegedly very cruel to Gerry during the divorce, so I wonder if Anderson fans and historians have made themselves part of "team Gerry" and tried to downplay or ignore her contributions, which were definitely significant.

  • @jwg5774
    @jwg5774 3 года назад +3

    Funny to see Landau praising Freiberger here when in interviews done after Space:1999 was cancelled he lays all the blame for Season 2's failure squarely on Freiberger's shoulders saying Anderson made a mistake bringing in a producer with the reputation as a TV series killer.

  • @JetScreamer_YT
    @JetScreamer_YT 3 года назад +7

    As a kid, I liked this show. I had the toy ship. I didn't know this didn't originate in the States. But, I was seven.

  • @petermiller1041
    @petermiller1041 3 года назад +2

    Glad I caught this review. Just finished series 1 and was contemplating getting the next series. Series 1 had some great ideas in it. Proper 70’s sci-fi. Really out there. Might just rewatch it now, rather than ruin it

  • @dngillikin
    @dngillikin 3 года назад +65

    As a nine and ten year old American child between late 75 and late 77, I actually did prefer the cold, aloof, sterile, mysterious and forboding first season to the cozy "humanized" action-adventure format of Year Two. My opinion even at the time was, even if I could not articulate it in the words I would use as a mature adult, it's science fiction. It's supposed to have elements that are weird and inexplicable and being thrust into the unknown is supposed to be vaguely unsettling.
    Year Two was barely a step up from Saturday morning live-action kidvid.

    • @hopebgood
      @hopebgood 3 года назад +9

      100% totally agree mate. Season 2 was just bloody awful.

    • @somethingelse4878
      @somethingelse4878 3 года назад +3

      As someone the same age as you but from Britain I have to agree.
      Just to add
      Looking back at the TV I watched as a kid I'm shocked at how slow it was in Britain but I could sit still and watch it lapping it up.
      Kids today would find even season 2 slow

    • @stevenStampper
      @stevenStampper 3 года назад +2

      I am exactly the same age but I was somehow too much of a Stark Trek snob fan to even give 1999 a chance. My favorite aunt loved it so I did actually try to watch it. I think the only thing I liked was the intro.

    • @somethingelse4878
      @somethingelse4878 3 года назад +1

      @@stevenStampper For me it was anything space so as long as it was in space id watch lol
      Later even blakes 7

    • @stuartbagley2586
      @stuartbagley2586 3 года назад +3

      I was the reverse. I liked both seasons but really dug season 2 because of the increase in action. I was under 10 at the time and all the cerebral stuff could get boring. I bet if I went back and watched it as a mid fifties adult, I’d prefer season 1.

  • @josieldeassis
    @josieldeassis Год назад +2

    I'm not a big fan of this show, but I liked it so much. I noticed the heavy changes. I liked the first season much more than the second one.

  • @germansoto8780
    @germansoto8780 3 года назад +6

    Space 1999 was very popular en México, when I was teenager in the 70's ...... and yes season 1 was great !!!!

  • @gwwayner
    @gwwayner 3 года назад +19

    As a kid I thought the year 1999 was an eternity away and so far into the future as to be incomprehensible. Now it is the year 2021, I am 71 years old, and time now passes incredibly quickly. A scientist once remarked that as we perceive time to pass we live half our life by age 22. It is indeed true.

    • @craiggillett5985
      @craiggillett5985 Месяц назад +1

      Me too

    • @srkh8966
      @srkh8966 Месяц назад +1

      I had a Space 1999 lunchbox-my mom threw it out

    • @gwwayner
      @gwwayner Месяц назад

      @@srkh8966 I remember all the number one comics I bought (including Spider Man) that were thrown away.

    • @srkh8966
      @srkh8966 Месяц назад

      @@gwwayner My husband swapped his number one XMen comic for some micronauts

  • @The_McFortner
    @The_McFortner 3 года назад +160

    Looking back, Series 1 "wooden" acting actually portrays the PTSD that the crew of Moonbase Alpha would be suffering from after being blown away from Earth.

    • @Girthon1
      @Girthon1 3 года назад +11

      Exactly!

    • @issiewizzie
      @issiewizzie 3 года назад +4

      Yea ....

    • @honeysucklecat
      @honeysucklecat 3 года назад +4

      No.
      First season has no life.
      Just stiff

    • @tomwatson9032
      @tomwatson9032 3 года назад +4

      That is some brilliant retconning, but it doesn't excuse the wooden behavior and aimless scripts.

    • @stuartwald2395
      @stuartwald2395 3 года назад +1

      @@jamesmac357 Not to mention that almost every episode, you have Eagles blasted out of space, buildings blown up and blown out, etc.

  • @dalethelander3781
    @dalethelander3781 2 года назад

    At the first Space:1999 convention in Columbus, OH in July of 1978, we called him Freddie "Kiss Of Death" Freiberger.
    Chris Dale saying "hitting David Prowse in the goolies"? Priceless.

  • @dorkangel1076
    @dorkangel1076 3 года назад +54

    Dragons Domain from season 1 still scares the crap out of me.

    • @BombshellCelluloid
      @BombshellCelluloid 3 года назад +11

      Thanks for this! I just wrote my own comment about this very episode as well but couldn't remember the title of it. Friggin' terrifying episode as a 10 year old and to this day still pops into my head every now and then.

    • @braxxian
      @braxxian 3 года назад +15

      Agreed. I watched it last month and even as a 53 year old I was still anxious. Great stuff.

    • @Milnoc
      @Milnoc 3 года назад +12

      An example of when monsters are done right.

    • @CJ-rf9jm
      @CJ-rf9jm 3 года назад +4

      It did the same to me at the age of 6.

    • @thethirdchimpanzee
      @thethirdchimpanzee 3 года назад +6

      That episode traumatized me as a child...

  • @RoySATX
    @RoySATX 3 года назад +1

    2:51 okay, I admit to needing sleep and not being fully in control of my faculties, but that music made me laugh coffee out my nose.

  • @AlphanPeter
    @AlphanPeter 3 года назад +12

    the 1st season was great, some improvements in the second season work and a lot did not !!
    just like Buck Rogers in 25 century second season was pretty bad too.
    Fred Freiberger ruined SPACE:1999 and Star trek and six million dollar man too.

    • @JohnFourtyTwo
      @JohnFourtyTwo 3 года назад

      Simply put, Fred Freiberger was the equivalent of JJ Abrams with how he ruined Star Trek and Star Wars in the 2000s.

  • @Mangomesh
    @Mangomesh 3 года назад +12

    I love retro sciencefiction from Blakes7, U.F.O and the first season of Space 1999. I always felt season 2 of Space 1999 was aimed at kids and it was strange that Barry Morse unexplained absence was never mentioned in season 2. Overall season 1 of Space 1999 was excellent, but I prefer U.F.O.

  • @dogwalker666
    @dogwalker666 3 года назад +38

    Easy The first "SERIES", as soon as anything is americanised it is not as good, i.e. The Avengers, the new avengers, red dwarf, the dr who movie, space 1999, etc etc.

    • @IggyStardust1967
      @IggyStardust1967 3 года назад +6

      This! Despite the fact that the show was enjoyed in it's original form by the American audience, Americans generally have no business interfering in British shows. I loved Space 1999 the first season/series, and while I did enjoy the second season/series in spite of itself, I could tell it just wasn't the same show.
      The show never sold to a network... but it was available on the local PBS stations. Same with all of my favorite BBC offerings.

    • @jimwatson2755
      @jimwatson2755 3 года назад +2

      I loved Red Dwarf! In the 70' s only got it on PBS in the States.

    • @dogwalker666
      @dogwalker666 3 года назад

      @@IggyStardust1967 agreed

    • @francessimmonds5784
      @francessimmonds5784 3 года назад +2

      Jim Watson red dwarf started in the '80's not '70's

    • @dogwalker666
      @dogwalker666 3 года назад

      @@francessimmonds5784 first shown in 1988 on BBC2 in the days when bbc2 ever had anything worth watching.

  • @GeordieAmanda
    @GeordieAmanda 3 года назад +5

    As a child I watched and loved the first series, the second series confused me and I thought was mostly silly. Now I can see why! My child's brain was confused at all the actor changes, but of course I didn't think to question it as I would today. Even as a child I could tell the stories were lightweight and the production values were on a slippery slope of despair. I can now sleep at night once again and simply pretend the second series was never made :)

  • @kirkrende3935
    @kirkrende3935 3 года назад +77

    You hit the nail on the head. The "Americanizing" was bad, and I feel like Space 1999 season 2 and the new Doctor Whos also added a lot of unnecessary manic "action" as filler at the expense of good storytelling and character development.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 3 года назад +5

      Torchwood also lost its way and became unwatchable when it went all 'usa' in the final episodes/season.

    • @chronosschiron
      @chronosschiron 3 года назад +4

      when you start seeing actors running a lot more yuo know its in trouble

  • @anthonywilson508
    @anthonywilson508 3 года назад

    As an 11 year old, I cannot say I gave the differences and thought, I just sat back and enjoyed the show.

  • @ronhaller2143
    @ronhaller2143 3 года назад +5

    I still love season 1 to this day, but always loathed season 2. Except for the Eagles, it lacked all that made series 1 so great.

  • @petermorris925
    @petermorris925 3 года назад +23

    That’s the best fan doc I’ve seen in my life. My 14 year old inner geek can finally end the torment of understanding how Saturday afternoons had gone so weird. How serious a fan would you have to be able to drop in all those scripted moments for laughs. Thank you for this, it was so good.

    • @ricko610
      @ricko610 3 года назад

      If you want to see the best fan based review look up Clever Dick films, yeah I'm not kidding for doctor who and and you'll see something that is BBC level production.

    • @kumbah2006
      @kumbah2006 Год назад

      I agree, this was masterfully made ! :)

  • @Star-Explorers
    @Star-Explorers 3 года назад +4

    Dragon's Domain.....Season 1 Episode 8.

    • @colinmclean3029
      @colinmclean3029 3 года назад +3

      That and The Black Sun, absolute classic episodes.

  • @MichaelDisney
    @MichaelDisney 3 года назад +13

    Is it true that many of the animals from S2 are from Brian Blessed's zoo? My theory is that his closeness to the production and love of animal husbandry could have even influenced the format of the shape-shifting Maya. I too find S2 hard to watch: S1 has a Kubrick's "2001" vibe. S2 feels like the "Banana Splits". Great video, btw!

  • @DragonKastle
    @DragonKastle 3 года назад

    I was nine years o”d when I first saw this, as it came out. Fond memories. Thank you for this.

  • @diannebdee
    @diannebdee 3 года назад +23

    I'm wondering how much they paid Martin Landau to say all those "nice" things about Friedberger? It was clear as he would later say, Landau much preferred season one. What got me was the implication on Friedberger's behalf that somehow this marooned society would have extra cloth available for those new uniforms, and that the women had these evening gowns hiding in the backs of their closets only to be brought back out to be human again. As if the struggle they were under after Breakaway was somehow over. Might as well stay on the moon with all these new gadgets like the laser cannons, and other weapons. Same thing for suddenly we have smaller personal quarters and smaller, well...everything. The musical consoles of Sandra, Yasko, Alibe, Alan, Bill, whoever, was laughable. Oh, Matthias, Vincent, and finally Sam Dastor as ..... I can't remember his character name. The Taybors, the Mentors, and the Brian the Brains.....Oh my! My head hurts. Also seeing Barbara Bain overact in her scenes was painful. Really painful. Tony's beer, Maya's transformations, seriously how could anyone have taken season two with anything else other than uproarious laughter. I felt genuinely sorry for the returnees like Nick Tate, Zienia Merton, Martin Landau, and..... Well you get the picture. season two sucked majorly. Oh and suddenly Koenig had a wife and Earth had this global war we never heard about in season one. Trees talked! My head hurts again.

    • @markhorton2920
      @markhorton2920 3 года назад +1

      The trees were called Luton

    • @diannebdee
      @diannebdee 3 года назад +4

      @@markhorton2920 The planet was called Luton.

    • @markhorton2920
      @markhorton2920 3 года назад

      @Dianne B. Dee Sorry. My memory is woeful

  • @speeta
    @speeta 2 года назад +9

    Taken as a whole, the entire series is such a wonderful mixed bag. There's so much to love. There's so much to cringe embarrassingly at. There's so much distinctive style and tone. And there's so much unfulfilled potential, which is why so many fans still yearn for a new series (novels and the recent audio adventures are welcome efforts, I suppose, I haven't read or heard them yet). One was in development for awhile, even offered a forum for fans to join in the discussion, and one hopes it would aim for the original vibe while avoiding most of the oversights.

  • @GalacticNonsense
    @GalacticNonsense 3 года назад +35

    Space:1999 and Buck Rogers in the 25th Century had similar fates. Season 1 were fan favorites. Season 2 was taken over by a producer that changed the series basic plot setups, eliminated some actors in favor of others, and had a new character designed to be a new fan favorite (Maya for Space:1999 and Hawk for Buck Rogers in the 25th Century.) Both series had such radical changes with little to no explanation, most people couldn't watch the show from that point on, not able to both absorb, and accept the changes, and yet, both series had their segments of fans that actually preferred the second season over the first. I actually met Gil Gerard at a ComiCon style convention, and spoke with him about it. He said he's seen a few episodes of Space: 1999, but wasn't aware of this fact. I also told him the Buck Rogers second episode, "Mark of the Saurian," had the same basic plot as the Space: 1999 second season two-part episode, "The Bridges of Wonder." I don't think he was familiar with this. I will say, though, that Gil Gerard is a class act. His personality in real life, IS Buck Rogers. Kind, and fun.

    • @rodferguson3515
      @rodferguson3515 3 года назад +7

      Yes I also met Both Gil Gerard And Co,- 🌟 Erin Gray (Wilma) at the Comic Con as well both me and my wife. They were so incredibly kind and nice they also took pictures with us and we Talked briefly about the series .. very kind and nice people!!!!

    • @martinwright1358
      @martinwright1358 3 года назад +2

      With Buck Rogers it was clear budgets had been slashed all over the place. It also wasn't helped when there are some episodes where it is very clear Gil Gerard was inebriated and his dialogue was put together at the end of the day using just him on the set.

    • @davidmorse6696
      @davidmorse6696 3 года назад +8

      @@martinwright1358 Battlestar Galactica 1980 had a similar fate as did Lost in Space in color seasons.

    • @ElectoneGuy
      @ElectoneGuy 3 года назад

      @@martinwright1358 When is Gil inebriated? I've never noticed this.

    • @martinwright1358
      @martinwright1358 3 года назад +1

      @@ElectoneGuy Towards the end of the second season it ewas clear they were shopotinbg dscenes where they only needred one camera set up and they were obviously shooting him on his own with a seconfd AD feeding him lines. One of these he was clearly slurring - he was remembering his lines and got them completed but there was a lack of engagement. He actually spoke about how his drinking had started to get out of hand at this time due to the way the studio was efffectively shooting scenes for differnt epiosdes at the same time when the set ups could be used. Luckily he got that sorted out.

  • @signupstuff
    @signupstuff 3 года назад +16

    Space 1999 jumped the shark with season 2 a full year before Fonzie. The season 1 intro is still iconic.

  • @dennisthompson7921
    @dennisthompson7921 3 года назад +15

    The local station that ran 1999 didn't show the second season, I didn't see them for many years. Boy was I let down when I finally did.

  • @stephencrook8968
    @stephencrook8968 Год назад +19

    There was no second series. It was a different show. The original remains as a precious relic…and I still think that opening sequence is the best ever.

    • @TheParot161
      @TheParot161 9 месяцев назад +2

      That opening sequence is absolutely the best ever!

    • @Mark-ec3lp
      @Mark-ec3lp Месяц назад +1

      @@TheParot161 I play the tune on piano, it sounds great. That and Blake's 7, awesome times.

  • @dave8181
    @dave8181 3 года назад +42

    Season 1 was superior in every way to season 2. One big difference was the music - so evocative and heartfelt in series 1. Think of the music in Testament of Arkadia, or the music as you the moon's temporary atmosphere disappearing at the end of Last Sunset. Barry Gray! The music in Season 2 was so terrible and diminutive.

    • @nickallen504
      @nickallen504 3 года назад +4

      The music in season 2 is worthy of porn movie background.

    • @williambabyak1094
      @williambabyak1094 3 года назад +2

      @@nickallen504 Or EuroHilton Muzak

  • @planet4change
    @planet4change 3 года назад +3

    Excellent presentation.
    Good memories, I have the Space 1999 DVD set.
    I have enjoyed all the Star Trek movie reboots and the lower deck animations,
    Star Wars story expansions, battlstar galactica reboots and the Netflix Lost in space reboot.
    I wish they had rebooted when they had the opportunity but I guess reboots were not a thing yet.
    It would be a welcomed addition to the space operas of today as its tone was more bleak and humanly mature and the intro music was uniquely genius for its time.
    With some creative writing the old storyline could be reworked to suit a space 2099 pandemic, alien invasion, natural disaster scenario. I’m just saying if the fan base was there it should have happened.

  • @marclawyer2789
    @marclawyer2789 3 года назад +39

    The reason Americans love Dr Who so much, is that it's a show that would never have been made in the USA: same with 1999...

    • @peterlauk6492
      @peterlauk6492 3 года назад +2

      So true!

    • @marclawyer2789
      @marclawyer2789 3 года назад +5

      @qtsssim which is why it's tanking in viewers and is also awful...

    • @FLAC2023
      @FLAC2023 3 года назад +1

      I haven't seen Dr. Who since the early 80s... pardon my ignorance but which versions are the best? I would like to watch them again...

    • @tinykemper2561
      @tinykemper2561 3 года назад +1

      @@charlesmento5968 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @tinykemper2561
      @tinykemper2561 3 года назад +2

      @@charlesmento5968 I wasn't agreeing

  • @imrulhaque
    @imrulhaque 3 года назад

    I used to watch this with my mom and dad when I was a kid. Good old memories.

  • @chrisll3874
    @chrisll3874 3 года назад +14

    Thank you so much! The answer was American Studios apeasment! I have been rewatching recently and I'd forgotten the stark differences between season 1 and 2. After only less than 2 eps into S2 I could barely even cintunue with that drek. It had me wondering why they would have taken all that was good about S1 and tossed it out. I could not fathom why they would replace the best opening score and montage of any show past or present and future and turm it comic book parody of it's self? That was just asthetic, but then continuity-wise add characters crew we have never met prior with zero explanation? Then while I frequently questioned the science used for the entire series, Season 2 made zero effort to even attempt to employ even a hint of science to explain the solar system of the week. But now I get it. The condescending American studios underestimating its audiences. Add lilting happy tunes and other nonsense. Sorry Gerry Anderson I always blamed you but now you've revealed the true villain. To bad you couldn't put him in a suspended animation chamber to like that azz in season 1 that wanted to return to earth so badly he threatened the existence of the entire moon base alpha. I am just going to watch season one again and forget S2. Sorry Maya. You were all that was good about S2.

  • @nordicson2835
    @nordicson2835 2 года назад +1

    I remember liking the show a lot , my favorite gifts were my dinky eagle and the model of moon base alpha, wish l had them now.

  • @ryanstephenkristoferkearns1319
    @ryanstephenkristoferkearns1319 3 года назад +5

    I enjoyed both series and considering I've got season 1 on DVD at the moment so I will get season 2 as well, brilliant video Chris.

  • @tachi98lep
    @tachi98lep 3 года назад +1

    Space 1999 needs to be rebooted with a new series!

  • @spd579
    @spd579 3 года назад +20

    I actully got a kick out of both seasons! When it ended with out warning, I was a broken hearted 9/10 year old. I'm happy that its here on youtube.

    • @proto-geek248
      @proto-geek248 3 года назад

      Okay so you got a kick out of it & you were broken hearted?

    • @Atheist7
      @Atheist7 Год назад +1

      THE EARLY CANCELLATION CRUSHED ME AS WELL!!!!!!!!!

  • @seanhiggins2740
    @seanhiggins2740 Год назад +12

    I think the flaw in changing the original concept was that in the beginning, although few could articulate it, that made one feel as if they were there as either a passenger, observer or part of the crew. That was the key strength of the show, and I think it is for that reason that most say they preferred season 1.
    Season 2 seemed like they were trying to convert it into a space soap opera, and the script and cast changes made it seem like they were running out of concepts to create scripts. They seemed to think that they needed to emotionalize and really deepen the characters, but their professional and spartan personalities were already admirable. These deviations uprooted the viewer from the show they grafted their minds to, and detached them from the illusion of actually being in the show. From the first episode, they had the formula down to successfully involve the viewer as part of the environment. They should never have disturbed that.

  • @jasonaugustine4426
    @jasonaugustine4426 3 года назад +6

    Judging from the comments here and other posts about this this series I'm probably in a small minority who preferred the 2nd series growing up as a 8-10 year old in the early 80's. It was the intro that sucked me in and never looked back, and I really enjoyed the colour, uniform, funky score music, Eagle action, phasers and especially Mia's abilities and her relationship with Tony.
    Also at the time having it in the Lookin comic can't be underestimated in terms of its appeal.
    For many years I assumed the 2nd season was a standalone until I saw there was a season 1 in my teenage years but could never get into it, thinking it was too serious and stuffy!
    However in my later adult years and having watched breakaway I realised 1st season had quality and some episodes were on par with original Star Trek which I rate to this day.
    So in short I was captivated by the 2nd season as a child and had a growing appreciation for season 1 as an adult.

  • @CapCanada-wc3um
    @CapCanada-wc3um 3 года назад +23

    In my personal opinion Maya was a gppd addition to the shpw. Her character was witty, charming, and in my opinion very likeable. I think Bergman would have loved working with her and would jave takem her under his wing had he not been written out of the series in season 2.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Год назад +1

      they should had continued it the show had its charm it was very unique to watch and interesting at the same time one of the problems most new sci-fi shows have getting cancelled early on due to not getting enough attention to get enough fans viewing it while it's on the air

    • @power2084
      @power2084 Год назад

      Ypu are right, Maya was really gppd, I lpved every mpment she was pn screen.

    • @Tony-d4t3j
      @Tony-d4t3j Год назад +1

      Yes, but her transmorph ability provided an easy solution to any problem and relieved the writers of any need to think.

  • @desbyrne1256
    @desbyrne1256 3 года назад +18

    As my uncle John was involved with series one i love the series. He also wrote episodes of Dr Who, Tales of the unexected, All creatures great and small and Heartbeat.

    • @janesmith5665
      @janesmith5665 3 года назад

      John Who?

    • @desbyrne1256
      @desbyrne1256 3 года назад +4

      @@janesmith5665 Johnny Byrne

    • @christinewright110
      @christinewright110 3 года назад +2

      Oh that's impressive. The only thing I hated about Heartbeat was that every episode in the last series ended with the policeman and his wife. That really irritated me. However, I was sorry that it ended so unexpectedly.

    • @christinewright110
      @christinewright110 3 года назад +2

      I loved "All Creatures Great and Small" .

    • @paulhunter6742
      @paulhunter6742 Год назад +1

      Seriously, your uncle worked production staff Space:1999? I will be you have really Cool original props from series.

  • @spockboy
    @spockboy 2 года назад +3

    Martin Landau is a fine actor but I thought he was TERRIBLE as a Moon Base Commander. He was CONSTANTLY losing control of himself and becoming emotionally unhinged, instead of keeping his cool as any good leader should. Not sure if it was hammy acting or bad writing/directing. With respect, Freiburger ruined Star Trek, Space 1999, and 6 Million Dollar Man. All of these series' were much worse under his control. I will accept that some of his hard luck was based on timing. 19:56 Had no idea Star Trek TNG "borrowed" this line which was to become the Borg manifesto. Excellent video! Subscribed.

  • @jeffsullivan2044
    @jeffsullivan2044 3 года назад +4

    The only " plus" about season 2 was Catherine Schell. A nice touch in an appalling second season. No surprise there wasn't a third.

  • @gregford2103
    @gregford2103 3 года назад +5

    I remember the first season as being much darker, with the endings to each show not always being good ones for the characters. Looking back, those were much better written episodes than what came afterwards. I do think the second season had its moments, and I did like the more upbeat feel, and Catherine Schell was definitely a welcome addition.

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery 3 года назад +15

    That was excellent. Has it changed my mind about Fred Freiberger? Let me think...
    No. I was watching Star Trek series three, and marvelling at 'Spock's Brain', and thinking:
    "Where did it all go wrong, so quickly?" (Two Words: 4,10).

    • @Nooziterp1
      @Nooziterp1 3 года назад +2

      Oh yes. 'Spock's brain' was terrible!

    • @JohnFourtyTwo
      @JohnFourtyTwo 3 года назад +1

      @@Nooziterp1 Most of season 3 was terrible, I remember watching as a kid and cringing at these episodes.

    • @marcwolf60
      @marcwolf60 3 года назад

      Nothing wrong with Spock's Brain.. Except he should have kept it in his head and skipped that episode :)

  • @Urizen61
    @Urizen61 Год назад

    I'm Canadian. One of the things I liked about season one was that it didn't have an American flavor. It was... different. It did make sense to try to inject some humour and warmth into the series. The problem was that it wasn't sell done. Landau is absolutely correct.

  • @DavidGreen_au
    @DavidGreen_au 3 года назад +17

    I've heard interviews with Gerry Anderson and Martin Landau which heavily allude to FF's significant contribution to the downfall of the series. Season 2 was appalling. It is not needful.

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 3 года назад

      "The Bringers of Wonder" was about as close as Season 2 got to 1.

  • @newYorkStories
    @newYorkStories 3 месяца назад

    20:51 Tony hitting Darth Vader with a fire extinguisher - priceless

  • @KaBoomStock
    @KaBoomStock 3 года назад +10

    I preferred season 1, but there are aspects of season 2 that I really loved.

  • @jasoncartwright586
    @jasoncartwright586 Год назад +4

    Really great documentary - appreciate all the work gone into it. I was around 8 years old and vividly remember watching the very first Season 1 Episode. The production values were so good - I remember being scared to death! Season 2 (I felt at the time) was OK, but as I have re-watched both seasons again and again over the years - clearly Season 1 stands out as representing a mixture of elements that is so much more compelling than its successor - it was darker, more mysterious, atmospheric, spooky and the scripts and narratives were much more interesting and ironic. The basic premise is also extremely sound and surely it could be picked up again and reworked into a whole new Space 2099 !! One hopes that this venture might once again be rekindled, as I understand in 2015 the Space 2099 project that was being worked on was eventually scrapped :(

  • @nilesn9787
    @nilesn9787 3 года назад +10

    The first season is better because it is in the ralm of the possible minus the moon leaving orbit part This is science fiction with that nifty high tech equipment. This let's us dream not unlike Star trek. The second season degenerates into fantasy which is the ralm of Star wars. We also have formed a liking to certain characters only to have them disappeared. For those of us who like 2001 could almost pretend alpha was that same base on the moon. As for humor that didn't work too well for the latest Star wars. 1999 was cerebral and made us think in season 1. George Lucas who's wife really helped in the movie is a good analogy. For what happened in season 2. The essence of wonder in survival against the unknown was lost.

    • @dorkangel1076
      @dorkangel1076 3 года назад +3

      Humour wasn't the issue with the latest Star Wars. Humour worked fine in Rogue One and The Mandalorian. The original Star Wars had humour in it too as did Star Trek. A series lives or dies on the stories it tells and it's feel. I agree that the original sci-fi feel was better than the later fantasy. If they'd kept the original feel I think we could have forgiven a lot of the other stuff.