I own an Indian. Bought it last year. After a few demo rides kept going back because the bike really impressed me to include the emphasis on little details. The bike was smooth, powerful, and had ABS (which kept upright a months ago when I had to do an emergency stop). You are right about the weight distribution. The weight is low which makes the bike easy to handle. I have owned many motorcycles over the past 40 years and this is one of my favorites.
Being an American, I LOVE seeing our fellows across the pond enjoying one of the new Indian bikes. Harley represented us for WAYYYYY too long with a lack of ingenuity, an underwhelming chassis and an anemic engine. Good to see you enjoyed it...and if I ever made it out to the UK to ride around, this would be my choice to see the countryside!
I'm from uk , and seen ome of these today and it's a beauty , I might get one when i trade my current bike in . Not really a fan of big cruisers ,they dont go well with our tight british roads, but this is something a bit different. Also in the uk the harley crowd are normally old men, never wear proper gear, dress up and think they are part of a bad ass motorbike club , not really into that whole scene, they are all posers.
Totally agree TMF. Recently took a test myself, the quality as you mentioned is exceptional, It only took me 100m to realise what a beautifully sorted machine they've made. It looks stunning up close and does that rare thing of being able to cruise or cane depending on your mood. Two bikes in one, you can be Peter Fonda one minute and Geronimo the next as your mood strikes. Sensational! I want.
As a Bury Boy born and bred this was a particularly enjoyable review TMF, many thanks! Never been fond of the cruiser style of Harleys or Indians but this beautiful machine is something else. Great new design direction. Definitely on my Next Bike list!!
it may have been said already but this is so good as its been designed by the main designer that was responsible for the BMW S1000RR and R9T amongst others, he was poached by Indian, for the life of me can't remember his name... Nice review as always
American bikes aren't my thing (and I've tried a few), but I have to say that, at least visually, that's a lovely bike. After Harley shafted Eric Buell, the American scene has lacked diversity. Now, if Indian were to approach Eric, that would be very interesting.
Mr Buell is currently working on his own e-bike project, and Harley is working on DOHC water cooled engines. Polaris sacrificed Victory to give power to the Indian brand. They are not in shortage of good engineers and visual designers. They need better marketing and dealer network.
Being an American, I do agree with your comment (I ride a 2007 T-100 and '94 Yamaha XV750). Sadly HD is dragging their feet when it comes to competing with other makes. And, living here in Wisconsin, HD's are like lawnmowers, "Everybody has one". Indian has upped the bar in both ride and performance quality. The FTR is bitchin'. It's up there with both the Speedtwin and Ducati Monster. Go ride one, and stay away from the HD's. Godspeed!
This bike is pretty cool. I owned a Buell XB9SX. Great bike. Agricultural yes, but that was one of the things I liked about it and compared to a lot of bikes I looked at while shopping for a new bike I found that the Buell XB still holds up well to new bikes. I now own an RnineT and did consider this Indian but wanted something a bit different than what I had before and enjoy it. But someday I would love to have another Buell. I would love to see TMF do a review one a XB9, if he ever would review older bikes.
I nearly bought a XB12S new. I’ve been looking again recently, the R doesn’t do it for me, it has to be the S, but they seem to be as rare as rocking horse shit.
I’m From America. I’m so glad that Indian is making this bike. Along with Harley, they should have been making naked street bikes 20 years ago. But hey, they’re finally waking up. It’s pricey though for the power. I fear that will never change.
Michael Steven First of all Michael it is “ you’re “....you’ve fucked that up twice. Secondly, my opinion can be whatever I want. Third, if you had actually read my comment it wasn’t negative at all. I said I’m glad they’re making this bike. Yes they should have been making naked street bikes for the last 20 years. The lack of a full line up is what’s hurting them. Clearly they understand that now since both Indian and Harley are and will produce street bikes, Harley is producing adventure bikes and electric bikes. Probably too pricey. Lastly, I was born and raised on the east coast of the USA. Which means I’m from America...I can’t wait to buy my 2020 Fat Boy in the near future if that makes you feel better.
@@SickBikeDude point is they were back then. EBR Also made 1190cc superbikes from 2014-2017. And they are quite a machine. Harley really screwed up letting Buell go. Some of the best handling chassis ever made.
Buell made some very interesting bikes back in the day, but yeah... you can't really ride something like an electra glide in the UK without coming off as a bit of a nob. The M25 isn't exactly route 66 lol.
@@jamesoren7238 Buell - Interesting yes, very. Ownable?... mmreh. They fell just a little short of that mark. I live in East County San Diego, more Harleys on the road here than any other brand. I would fit in better, here, on a cruiser, but I like my bikes to actually corner. Too many good roads around here to ride a Harley. Don't really get the popularity.
kleinbottled79 lmao I’m in the Bay Area and no joke there’s only Harley riders here as well (aka trashhhh) they have this weird ass ego, ima just fly by em and piss em off
@@NudaMan Big egos do sure seem to be attracted to all that chrome. Majority of 'em are normal Joe's though from my experience. I wave, most wave back. Live and let live, it's just not for me. Or you I take it. 👍
Agree, a bike like this does not look right with a lcd screen, We look at lcd screens all they, I think it is time for analog clocks to come back, they could make them big, with an lcd screen at the middle or lower part of the clock with the extra info if needed.
I know looks are subjective, but that bike looks excellent, makes my KTM SDGT look over designed. Apart from the tyres, everything looks just right. Well done Indian !.
Beautiful bike! I have to admit, even as a Yank, I have always avoided American motorcycles, but this is a really quality looking ride. Thanks for the review and for opening my mind.
Great video again and a very special bike. The Krazy Horse chaps have just opened up in the Cotswolds as well, great little loop, start Mollie's Motel & Diner outside of Oxford for breakfast and then round to Caffeine and Machine near Stratford.
A very impressive machine, Andy. I’ve never ridden an American bike, either, and like you I was expecting it to be on the “agricultural” side, so a very pleasant surprise. I like the styling very much but I think I’d like it even more if it had spoke wheels, but overall it looks a cracking bike. I have finally pulled the trigger on a second ‘do it all’ bike that I can use rain or shine, that compliments my dry mileage only, custom Bonneville. So with the help from you, Teapot, Chops and Richy (plus lots of other reviews) in the morning (Tuesday) I pick up my 2018 KTM 1290 Super Adventure S. I came very close to getting a blue framed GS Rallye, but this particular KTM was local and at a very good price and when I saw it in the ‘flesh’, I fell in love 🥰 So thanks for your help, Andy, and keep up the good work 👍 All the best, Andy 🏴
I love the FTR and all of your videos. I think Indian has done a great job. I own a speed triple and I have been to the UK. I love your roads there and riding through the small villages. I hope to visit again someday.
Great review and good to see you in my home county of Suffolk. They've got some fantastic bikes at Krazy Horse, I often pop for a browse (and to use the great cafe at the showroom). Let's have a review of the new Scout Bobber Twenty, or if you fancy a proper big American V twin, my all time favourite, the Indian Chief Darkhorse.
I was looking forward to hearing what you thought. Just got my hands on the Race replica version a couple of days ago, while i was in Portugal. I'm in love, but i'll need to sell a kidney to get one. €18,000 on the road. The red frame and Akro exhaust make all the difference to me.
I really don't get why the rear mudgard plate holder isn't standard at this point. I know this isn't the first bike to do it, but it's always nice to see a bike you don't immediately have to take a toolbox to the tail. Also suits our comically large bike license plates better than just a kite on a stick
I went and checked them out on the weekend. Keen to try. The downside is I'd need to offload my Thruxton R to even think about buying one. But that isn't a big ask.
I rode one at my local Black Hills Indian dealer a few months ago. Runs very strong and handles impeccably. A tad tall as I had to use the balls of my feet, but I would suppose it could be lowered an inch. Took it up Boulder Canyon between Sturgis and Deadwood. Nice curvy road and this bike was a hoot. Very smooth engine that pulls like a train. Brakes are excellent. I hear that we should expect other iterations of this platform. The future for Indian looks bright.
I think this is the best looking naked bike, I love the front screen. This days we all get the picture that BMW, KTM or Ducati because of the marketing is the bike to have but the Indian would be my choice. Really good product from the US. Congrats from the Vstrom 1000 XT rider. I cant wait to see it in person on EICMA.
That's a handsome beast. Need to get to an Indian dealer to test ride one. It'll make an excellent bike for those occasional UK summers when the sun is shining.
I hope they let you keep it, at least for a while... For the long term reviews... Seems like a useful machine, even for touring... With some mods, of course... All the best!!!
Saw this bike up close at last year’s show in Long Beach and it had to be the most impressive new bike there. Real quality machine with loads of character. Thankfully, they hadn’t passed emissions at that point or I probably would have bought it on the spot!
OK. Tested this ped at the Indian dealer at Stourport On Severn, near Shelsey Walsh track situated in the part of the UK the creator of the universe designed for motorbikes. In short, I think this is my next bike. Certainly going to end up in my collection. Absolutely amazing. The one I tried had been modded and equipped with a de-catted ridiculously loud 2 into 1 pipe, giving a total of 91ft/lb torque. Astonishing pull. A bit of a slap in the face of the triumph speed twin which was the top slot contender for my next ped. It had little bar end mirrors like a speed triple, so goodbye to those stalky ones Who'd have thought it. I still can't believe what just happened !
I think the first American bike I rode was an Indian too. It was a 2 stroke off-road 100 or 125cc. Someone grabbed the name for a while in 60's or 70's.
Had a test ride on one of these 3 months ago. Loved it. Only problem I found was that after 2 + hours and getting stuck in some really heavy traffic the engine heat roasted my left leg when stationary. Once on the move no problem.
Another GREAT review " that's no good about the end of Summer in the UK " Its about to Start in Aus . We have had a fantastic Spring in my Part of Aus ( Northeast Victoria ) Great twisty riding Country. Just a idea maybe take us in the dealers and show us around ?
TheMissendenFlyer “ just to see the other bikes and maybe the dealers might appreciate the advising ? whatever you do it’s all fantastic viewing to me .
Hi Missenden, really enjoying your reviews, been following for a little while now very natural and genuine, actually took one of these out today at Krazy horse I dont live to far from Bury, have to say I was sad to leave it at the showroom 😂 really enjoyed the ride lovely machine, engine is beautiful and like you was really surprised about how the weight feels, I'm currently riding an xsr700 and felt as flickable, like the idea of the non s version as it's back to basics riding, I found on the s model I didn't use any of those modes Anyhow nice one (biker nod) 🤙🤘
Hi Andy, never been keen on the look of American bikes, but have to admit the FTR looks great and judging from your review rides well. Good to see you up in Suffolk.
Good looking bike, especially for a first go for Indian. Personally for this style of bike I would go for the Honda CB1000R. More power, more polished , likely more reliable and cheaper, albeit not much. Aesthetics are personal but nice to see a US made bike that isn’t a cruiser that looks good and doesn’t perform like “agriculture equipment”. ...That made me laugh.
Lovely looking machine and great to hear the dynamics hold up to the same standard. I'll have to pay Krazy Horse a visit to check it or in the metal as its a nice ride out to Bury for me.
Alot of other motorcycle makers could learn a bit from their exhaust design. Especially if it's euro compliant. Makes you wonder, they probably know we'll change them in a heartbeat so they don't even bother putting an effort into its design!
The last time I rode an American bike (HD) any distance, I had to accessorize . . . myself . . . with a new set of kidneys. I’m amazed you characterize the Indian as “smooth” so, now I have to ride one.
Love your videos! I gave motorcycles couple of years ago when my first child was born. Still love bike and watching reviews... dreaming! Your a very thoughtful smart chap just wondered how you square the risk of riding (which is unnecessary really) with responsibilities and commitments to family etc
Hey TMF - thanks for another great review (from Canada). Do you think the ftr review was quite good because your expectations were so low? Vs your review of the 1290 SDR, where expectations were high and yet it still had a great review? I’m debating between these two bikes. So thank you very much for all of your work and any insights you can offer.
Thank you for posting. Been waiting a while for you to review this bike. Great to see it. I did not see the location of the rear turning signals. Are they integrated into the rear brake light fixture?
Congratulations on evading white van man, but the question is would you swop your new speed twin for the Indian, your answer would be insightful. Great vid as always👍.
I just rode an FTR 1200S last Saturday at my local dealer. Being an American, I love the idea of an American bike, but I am not into huge baggers or cruisers. I loved it! It felt a little small compared to my Tiger, but I loved the engine and the way it handled. I hope to buy one in maybe two years. I suspect that the FTR1200 is far and away the one American bike that will really appeal to you. You might also try an Indian Bobber. It is a cruiser, but it has a modern engine like the FTR1200.
Curious why you're thinking it's a Sundays only type bike? There's a full set of luggage bag options available and so on. It would make a great light weight mini-bagger done up right I'd wager.
@@MakoVette I love Indians, I'd have a Scout tomorrow in touring form if I could afford one. And there's a few Indians specifically made for touring (though I agree, you can tour on ANYTHING!). It's just that I don't think this Indian was built for touring in mind when they came up with this Flat tracker. It doesn't really fall into any category. Ride safe.
Coincidentally we were looking at this bike just yesterday in the FLD. Thought you might have pointed out the feature of the footrests being angled to point the toes downward. Someone downthread wanted to change tyres - won't be long before anyone does as the tread is very shallow.
Bikes like these are part of the reason Indian is on its ascendancy while HD doubles-down on its 1947 technology and is shrinking. Indian advertises performance, HD advertises "lifestyle."
Nice review. Very interesting bike & not your typical American offering by any means. It's certainly seems like it"s worth a look. Apparently the Harley 1200 Roadster's pretty cool too. It's very different to this and much more traditional but I do like the look of it. Would be cool to have some American iron in the garage.
@@johnrimmer5812 I have removed dozens of these stickers with a hair dryer and 3m trim adhesive remover, and some of these stickers have been stuck on for a decade. As far as I know all these American bikes come with a load of stickers, How many owned bikes in America do you see with stickers stuck all over it? Synthetic enamel is pretty tough.
There is one for sale at my local dealer, pre-owned with 400 km. Someone must have been frightened by it.... I was amazed I could get it off the stand .... that sweet centre of gravity is a gift to some of us 10 lb weaklings :)
Saw one of these a few weeks back, stunning looking motorcycle, maybe not quite as practical as my GSA. If I could justify another bike I could be tempted...then again your big Triumph is a looker.
Mr Flyer - Me old stomping grounds, the A1101 commute to and from RAF Lakenheath! Of course, your current bit of kit is *quite* different from the GS425 I rode, but I'll bet I had just as much fun. Well I did!!!....Gods, I could use a pint of Greene King bitter right now.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I have long ago retired from the US Air Force and semi-retired (if that makes any sense) from the Veterans Administration and I now live in my hometown of Corning, California, right in the middle of the North Valley, approx 110 miles north of Sacramento. No sugar beet tractors up here, but lots of other farm equipment.
The only American sports bike but a damn good one. This is the only bike from the States that id buy. Still I think they could get more HP out of it and reduce the weight.
Rode one this summer here in WI. Agree could b a bit lighter and a bit more power but overall I liked it alot. Does everything well. Not a full cruiser or a hyper naked but for its intended purpose it rocks. Plenty of torque as well. Already have an EBR1190sx for tearing up the streets and turbo Vrod for cruisin but this would b a great commuter/hooligan bike. Looks great as well. Btw the S&S exhaust on these sound bad ass!
Does look a bike I could see myself on. Honestly though that TFT screen looks like someone has lashed their mobile phone on and 13L tank is just not enough.
Agreed. I ride in the Great American West and 180 mile range is pretty much a minimum if you don't want to worry about gas stops. Some bikes look OK with a cell phone dash. In my opinion this one does not. Give me two analog clocks instead. Even if they were TFT displays.
@@ronboe6325 That TFT screen looks like something out of a 5 year old really cheap car. Screens today don't have such large borders, this shouldn't either. Looks wise, it looks like a Ducati diavel and monster had a baby.
Nice bike but just me I don't like the modern style of no rear mudguard/seat over the back wheel. Wonder how it compares to my 1200 Sportster, much quicker but I do like a 'lumpy' feel to an engine.
great video, im so jealous of the roads you get to ride on, nothing comparable in phoenix. anyways really sparked my interest in this bike, aside from the hideous plate mount/rear turn signal god awful thing, looks great and performs.
Hi tmf that bike is absolutely a beauty nice vlog hope they will let you keep it for a while longer so you can do a long term review if not no worries 👌👌🏍
Side view of false tank, frame and seat looks like the Norton Comando you just tested. I took a Harley tractor for a test ride. Had it four minutes before I took it back. Hated everything about it. That was 2004 ish. This looks way better and seems to handle nicely 👍🏻
I'm fascinated with the Indian FTR1200 and I have no idea why.....Its not a motorcycle I'd have any use for but I can't get it off my mind. ;) So glad you got a chance to ride one and what a great introduction to the American side ...lol ....way better than starting on a Harley ;)
...well I'm looking forward to trying a Harley at some point - I love all motorcycles and I'm open minded about what they may have to offer....I'm not into the leather satchels and tassels stuff but I do appreciate proper grade engineering....
@@TheMissendenFlyer ....I'm not a Harley hater, but to use your words, I'm sure you'll find a more "proper grade engineering" on the Indian not to mention greater value per dollar.
I know your a big triumph fan, as am I but would have considered this flat tracker instead of your triumph had you have ridden it before? Just curious that's all
Nice looking bike. Didn't show us what it's like on the motorway. Was that due to the weather? Like the touch screen, although I think analogue would look better. I wonder what's under the fake tank? Did they miss an opportunity to give it a storage compartment, like Honda did with the NC750X.
geoff newman : There are no motorways in that part of the country. The closest thing is the A14 dual carriageway, which runs past Bury St Edmunds. It probably wasn’t close to TMF’s route.
I'm not big on retro bikes that sacrifice way too much performance for style, but this looks to be ample and not overly compromised. One of the few American bikes I could possibly ride. The Harley XR1200X was a similarly styled bike, which looked about as rideable a Harley as I'd seen (probably explains why they weren't popular in the US). Lacked the performance of this Indian though. I was also interested in the Buell 1125R/CR, until Harley pulled the plug and I heard that there were a few issues (stators, clutch weep, instrument cluster dying) which were already taking months to get sorted. I'll be interested in the new Harley Streetfighter that's supposed to arrive next year as well. I do love sporting V-Twins, so it's still possible I might own an American bike one day. Especially now that Ducati are leaving them behind, although it's the Orange Austrian brand that is currently topping my list (shame about the colour).
Why do some bike manufacturers have an obsession with one colour ? I like red and black, so Triumph and Honda have it sewn up for me. Kawasaki and Ktm are always going to have an issue getting me interested.
Interesting. I always thought that I would like the Scout cruiser range better, but looking at this, I could be persuaded to have a test ride. Did you get any miles on faster roads like the A14.? I have test ridden the three Scout models. Would be interested to see your thoughts in comparison.
I own an Indian. Bought it last year. After a few demo rides kept going back because the bike really impressed me to include the emphasis on little details. The bike was smooth, powerful, and had ABS (which kept upright a months ago when I had to do an emergency stop). You are right about the weight distribution. The weight is low which makes the bike easy to handle. I have owned many motorcycles over the past 40 years and this is one of my favorites.
Being an American, I LOVE seeing our fellows across the pond enjoying one of the new Indian bikes. Harley represented us for WAYYYYY too long with a lack of ingenuity, an underwhelming chassis and an anemic engine. Good to see you enjoyed it...and if I ever made it out to the UK to ride around, this would be my choice to see the countryside!
MattShaggs I know wish Indian and HD would make some lighter weight naked bikes
I'm from uk , and seen ome of these today and it's a beauty , I might get one when i trade my current bike in . Not really a fan of big cruisers ,they dont go well with our tight british roads, but this is something a bit different. Also in the uk the harley crowd are normally old men, never wear proper gear, dress up and think they are part of a bad ass motorbike club , not really into that whole scene, they are all posers.
I thought you might want to hire a Brit peace of iron to tour our countryside?
@@jjnewman65 Hey, if I can rent out a Bonneville, sign me up for that experience too!
@@S01-k9z We have the same crowd in the states... the HD fan boys that are dying off and are taking HD with them.
Totally agree TMF. Recently took a test myself, the quality as you mentioned is exceptional, It only took me 100m to realise what a beautifully sorted machine they've made. It looks stunning up close and does that rare thing of being able to cruise or cane depending on your mood. Two bikes in one, you can be Peter Fonda one minute and Geronimo the next as your mood strikes. Sensational! I want.
As a Bury Boy born and bred this was a particularly enjoyable review TMF, many thanks! Never been fond of the cruiser style of Harleys or Indians but this beautiful machine is something else. Great new design direction. Definitely on my Next Bike list!!
Check it out Simon!
it may have been said already but this is so good as its been designed by the main designer that was responsible for the BMW S1000RR and R9T amongst others, he was poached by Indian, for the life of me can't remember his name... Nice review as always
American bikes aren't my thing (and I've tried a few), but I have to say that, at least visually, that's a lovely bike. After Harley shafted Eric Buell, the American scene has lacked diversity. Now, if Indian were to approach Eric, that would be very interesting.
Very interesting thought for sure. I'd quite like to see the result of some indian/buell ideas.
Mr Buell is currently working on his own e-bike project, and Harley is working on DOHC water cooled engines.
Polaris sacrificed Victory to give power to the Indian brand. They are not in shortage of good engineers and visual designers. They need better marketing and dealer network.
Being an American, I do agree with your comment (I ride a 2007 T-100 and '94 Yamaha XV750). Sadly HD is dragging their feet when it comes to competing with other makes. And, living here in Wisconsin, HD's are like lawnmowers, "Everybody has one". Indian has upped the bar in both ride and performance quality. The FTR is bitchin'. It's up there with both the Speedtwin and Ducati Monster. Go ride one, and stay away from the HD's. Godspeed!
This bike is pretty cool. I owned a Buell XB9SX. Great bike. Agricultural yes, but that was one of the things I liked about it and compared to a lot of bikes I looked at while shopping for a new bike I found that the Buell XB still holds up well to new bikes. I now own an RnineT and did consider this Indian but wanted something a bit different than what I had before and enjoy it. But someday I would love to have another Buell. I would love to see TMF do a review one a XB9, if he ever would review older bikes.
I nearly bought a XB12S new. I’ve been looking again recently, the R doesn’t do it for me, it has to be the S, but they seem to be as rare as rocking horse shit.
I’m From America.
I’m so glad that Indian is making this bike. Along with Harley, they should have been making naked street bikes 20 years ago. But hey, they’re finally waking up.
It’s pricey though for the power. I fear that will never change.
Your "from" America?....Does that mean your American?..Doesn't sound like it from the negative opinion..
Michael Steven
First of all Michael it is “ you’re “....you’ve fucked that up twice.
Secondly, my opinion can be whatever I want.
Third, if you had actually read my comment it wasn’t negative at all. I said I’m glad they’re making this bike. Yes they should have been making naked street bikes for the last 20 years. The lack of a full line up is what’s hurting them. Clearly they understand that now since both Indian and Harley are and will produce street bikes, Harley is producing adventure bikes and electric bikes. Probably too pricey.
Lastly, I was born and raised on the east coast of the USA. Which means I’m from America...I can’t wait to buy my 2020 Fat Boy in the near future if that makes you feel better.
Umm... Buell did make naked streetbike 20 years ago....
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“Did” is the key word in your sentence. It’s a shame that stopped in what, 2009?
@@SickBikeDude point is they were back then. EBR Also made 1190cc superbikes from 2014-2017. And they are quite a machine. Harley really screwed up letting Buell go. Some of the best handling chassis ever made.
Only American bike I've ever seen that I could possibly see myself owning.
Buell made some very interesting bikes back in the day, but yeah... you can't really ride something like an electra glide in the UK without coming off as a bit of a nob. The M25 isn't exactly route 66 lol.
The Indian Scout Bobber is an impressive ride.
@@jamesoren7238 Buell - Interesting yes, very. Ownable?... mmreh. They fell just a little short of that mark. I live in East County San Diego, more Harleys on the road here than any other brand. I would fit in better, here, on a cruiser, but I like my bikes to actually corner. Too many good roads around here to ride a Harley. Don't really get the popularity.
kleinbottled79 lmao I’m in the Bay Area and no joke there’s only Harley riders here as well (aka trashhhh) they have this weird ass ego, ima just fly by em and piss em off
@@NudaMan Big egos do sure seem to be attracted to all that chrome. Majority of 'em are normal Joe's though from my experience. I wave, most wave back. Live and let live, it's just not for me. Or you I take it. 👍
Bike needs some clocks, instead of that screen. But, apart from that it’s not bad looking.
The basic model comes with analogue clocks I believe.
@@hollowaysteve that would look so much better imho. 👍
Agree, a bike like this does not look right with a lcd screen, We look at lcd screens all they, I think it is time for analog clocks to come back, they could make them big, with an lcd screen at the middle or lower part of the clock with the extra info if needed.
Stunning bike. Future classic written all over it, IMO. Thanks for a well-conducted review.
Thanks for watching James!
Engine very tightly packed into the frame. Glad you don't have to do a tail tidy. Interesting to see how it compares with an R9T.
I rode this and a R9T back to back. Bought the Indian with no hesitation.
Boy that would be a tough choice, they both seems like great bikes.
What a gorgeous bike! The twin exhaust is lovely compared to most stock cans.
Yes I need to change those out on looks grounds...
I like the pipe work a lot, but the cans themselves to me look like two Honda grom cans melted into the shape of one from a monster 1200.
I've been interested in this bike ever since indian announced they were doing it. I've never wanted to own an indian, but i'd like to own this one.
I know looks are subjective, but that bike looks excellent, makes my KTM SDGT look over designed. Apart from the tyres, everything looks just right. Well done Indian !.
I agree, lovely looking machine to my eyes too...
“Relentless push in the backside”. You love it 😊
yes i raised an eyebrow to that one as well lmao
Yes, just did not sound right at all. I deleted my comment then scrolled down the comments....
Beautiful bike! I have to admit, even as a Yank, I have always avoided American motorcycles, but this is a really quality looking ride. Thanks for the review and for opening my mind.
Certainly opened mine Brian, lovely ride!
@KEITH FLOYD'S FINAL INTERVIEW Eh?
Best looking INDIAN yet. Apart from the SCOUT. Both are beautiful machines.
Great video again and a very special bike. The Krazy Horse chaps have just opened up in the Cotswolds as well, great little loop, start Mollie's Motel & Diner outside of Oxford for breakfast and then round to Caffeine and Machine near Stratford.
A very impressive machine, Andy. I’ve never ridden an American bike, either, and like you I was expecting it to be on the “agricultural” side, so a very pleasant surprise. I like the styling very much but I think I’d like it even more if it had spoke wheels, but overall it looks a cracking bike.
I have finally pulled the trigger on a second ‘do it all’ bike that I can use rain or shine, that compliments my dry mileage only, custom Bonneville. So with the help from you, Teapot, Chops and Richy (plus lots of other reviews) in the morning (Tuesday) I pick up my 2018 KTM 1290 Super Adventure S.
I came very close to getting a blue framed GS Rallye, but this particular KTM was local and at a very good price and when I saw it in the ‘flesh’, I fell in love 🥰
So thanks for your help, Andy, and keep up the good work 👍
All the best,
Andy 🏴
Congratulations on the new bike Andy!
I love the FTR and all of your videos. I think Indian has done a great job. I own a speed triple and I have been to the UK. I love your roads there and riding through the small villages. I hope to visit again someday.
Glad you like them!
Great review and good to see you in my home county of Suffolk. They've got some fantastic bikes at Krazy Horse, I often pop for a browse (and to use the great cafe at the showroom). Let's have a review of the new Scout Bobber Twenty, or if you fancy a proper big American V twin, my all time favourite, the Indian Chief Darkhorse.
I was looking forward to hearing what you thought.
Just got my hands on the Race replica version a couple of days ago, while i was in Portugal.
I'm in love, but i'll need to sell a kidney to get one. €18,000 on the road.
The red frame and Akro exhaust make all the difference to me.
Love love love the look of this machine. Those artery-esque pipes look incredible. Purposeful as you sometimes say TMF. God Bless the colonies..
I really don't get why the rear mudgard plate holder isn't standard at this point. I know this isn't the first bike to do it, but it's always nice to see a bike you don't immediately have to take a toolbox to the tail. Also suits our comically large bike license plates better than just a kite on a stick
I went and checked them out on the weekend. Keen to try. The downside is I'd need to offload my Thruxton R to even think about buying one. But that isn't a big ask.
I rode one at my local Black Hills Indian dealer a few months ago. Runs very strong and handles impeccably. A tad tall as I had to use the balls of my feet, but I would suppose it could be lowered an inch. Took it up Boulder Canyon between Sturgis and Deadwood. Nice curvy road and this bike was a hoot. Very smooth engine that pulls like a train. Brakes are excellent. I hear that we should expect other iterations of this platform. The future for Indian looks bright.
I think this is the best looking naked bike, I love the front screen. This days we all get the picture that BMW, KTM or Ducati because of the marketing is the bike to have but the Indian would be my choice. Really good product from the US. Congrats from the Vstrom 1000 XT rider. I cant wait to see it in person on EICMA.
That's a handsome beast. Need to get to an Indian dealer to test ride one. It'll make an excellent bike for those occasional UK summers when the sun is shining.
I hope they let you keep it, at least for a while... For the long term reviews... Seems like a useful machine, even for touring... With some mods, of course...
All the best!!!
Saw this bike up close at last year’s show in Long Beach and it had to be the most impressive new bike there. Real quality machine with loads of character. Thankfully, they hadn’t passed emissions at that point or I probably would have bought it on the spot!
Your first Indian should've been the Springfield, just my opinion, but I'm biased, I own a Springfield, and it is so sweet.
Rain? In England? Noooooooooo! Really? You must be adding intrigue to the video...LOL
OK. Tested this ped at the Indian dealer at Stourport On Severn, near Shelsey Walsh track situated in the part of the UK the creator of the universe designed for motorbikes.
In short, I think this is my next bike. Certainly going to end up in my collection. Absolutely amazing. The one I tried had been modded and equipped with a de-catted ridiculously loud 2 into 1 pipe, giving a total of 91ft/lb torque.
Astonishing pull.
A bit of a slap in the face of the triumph speed twin which was the top slot contender for my next ped.
It had little bar end mirrors like a speed triple, so goodbye to those stalky ones
Who'd have thought it.
I still can't believe what just happened !
about the ONLY bike that would pull me away from my beloved moto guzzi's
Indian build quality is superb now Polaris have taken over. Was tempted for the Bobber but was very low when sitting on it. Hence a HD 48..
lovely looking bike.that short front mudguard i think will platter all that loveliness with mud and grime
I think the first American bike I rode was an Indian too. It was a 2 stroke off-road 100 or 125cc. Someone grabbed the name for a while in 60's or 70's.
Had a test ride on one of these 3 months ago. Loved it. Only problem I found was that after 2 + hours and getting stuck in some really heavy traffic the engine heat roasted my left leg when stationary. Once on the move no problem.
Ah interesting - in Blighty I quite like a bike to run warm!
@@TheMissendenFlyer It was more than warm, It was actually quite painful
Your left leg?? I would think exhaust side would b more of a problem.
Another GREAT review " that's no good about the end of Summer in the UK " Its about to Start in Aus . We have had a fantastic Spring in my Part of Aus ( Northeast Victoria ) Great twisty riding Country. Just a idea maybe take us in the dealers and show us around ?
I used to do that many moons ago - maybe I should start to do it again......
TheMissendenFlyer “ just to see the other bikes and maybe the dealers might appreciate the advising ? whatever you do it’s all fantastic viewing to me .
Hi Missenden, really enjoying your reviews, been following for a little while now very natural and genuine, actually took one of these out today at Krazy horse I dont live to far from Bury, have to say I was sad to leave it at the showroom 😂 really enjoyed the ride lovely machine, engine is beautiful and like you was really surprised about how the weight feels, I'm currently riding an xsr700 and felt as flickable, like the idea of the non s version as it's back to basics riding, I found on the s model I didn't use any of those modes
Anyhow nice one (biker nod) 🤙🤘
Good morning TMF, Thank you for the video and review a nice looking bike!! Dad had one many years ago. Anyway take care and catch you next time 👍😎🇬🇧.
Cheers Wayne...
I hope you read the warning signs on the tank, they're very easy to miss :)
Time to fire up the heat gun
Trying to read it at 70 MPH would be interesting.
RamsFan at 70, you’d be more worried about your fillings coming loose.
@@rumien1383 No chance on this bike mate. It's smooth for a big V twin.
Beautiful bike. Who would have thought an American bike could be half decent.
Pro taper bars is a nice touch as stand! Smart bike ✅
Krazy Horse have just opened an outlet in Chipping Norton. So no excuse not to visit a bit more often :)
Yup - I'll be checking it out at some point I'm sure....
Hi Andy, never been keen on the look of American bikes, but have to admit the FTR looks great and judging from your review rides well. Good to see you up in Suffolk.
Nice bike - and the only one in the range that I would consider. Thanks for the insight.
Richard D I agree, I’m personally not a Harley/Indian cruiser type guy but this I could thrash about.
Good looking bike, especially for a first go for Indian. Personally for this style of bike I would go for the Honda CB1000R. More power, more polished , likely more reliable and cheaper, albeit not much. Aesthetics are personal but nice to see a US made bike that isn’t a cruiser that looks good and doesn’t perform like “agriculture equipment”. ...That made me laugh.
Its a beauty, i would love one.
Lovely looking machine and great to hear the dynamics hold up to the same standard. I'll have to pay Krazy Horse a visit to check it or in the metal as its a nice ride out to Bury for me.
Beautiful bike. I love that exhaust styling! ......Sal : )
S&S exhaust, bar end mirrors, and a new engine map will light that bike up mate!
S&S 2 into 1 Barks! Hard
Alot of other motorcycle makers could learn a bit from their exhaust design. Especially if it's euro compliant. Makes you wonder, they probably know we'll change them in a heartbeat so they don't even bother putting an effort into its design!
The last time I rode an American bike (HD) any distance, I had to accessorize . . . myself . . . with a new set of kidneys. I’m amazed you characterize the Indian as “smooth” so, now I have to ride one.
It certainly surprised me Walter - and in a good way!
That is one lovely bike. Pricey but what bike isn't these days.
Looks good ,but it looks funny with the gap between the seat and the rear tire.
You're riding some really beautiful bikes lately Kemosabe.
I know, good isn't it!!
Love your videos! I gave motorcycles couple of years ago when my first child was born. Still love bike and watching reviews... dreaming! Your a very thoughtful smart chap just wondered how you square the risk of riding (which is unnecessary really) with responsibilities and commitments to family etc
It’s a personal choice, life would be fairly lifeless without some level of risk, I deemed the reward worth the risk....
Hi Norally. The drone was a great idea. I know it must be time consuming but can you do a lot more drone footage please it looks great.
The configurator on their web site is awesome. Worth a visit just for that
Good review TMF. Nice looking Bike.
Hey TMF - thanks for another great review (from Canada).
Do you think the ftr review was quite good because your expectations were so low? Vs your review of the 1290 SDR, where expectations were high and yet it still had a great review?
I’m debating between these two bikes. So thank you very much for all of your work and any insights you can offer.
Yes I think there may be something in that.....
Thank you for posting. Been waiting a while for you to review this bike. Great to see it. I did not see the location of the rear turning signals. Are they integrated into the rear brake light fixture?
YESS! It's strange I was only thinking king yesterday more I wish you would do the FTR1200s. And here we are😂
Congratulations on evading white van man, but the question is would you swop your new speed twin for the Indian, your answer would be insightful. Great vid as always👍.
I just rode an FTR 1200S last Saturday at my local dealer. Being an American, I love the idea of an American bike, but I am not into huge baggers or cruisers. I loved it! It felt a little small compared to my Tiger, but I loved the engine and the way it handled. I hope to buy one in maybe two years. I suspect that the FTR1200 is far and away the one American bike that will really appeal to you. You might also try an Indian Bobber. It is a cruiser, but it has a modern engine like the FTR1200.
It sure does appeal!
Love this bike so much!!!! Costs a damn fortune over here in Malta :(
Oh dear....
Nice bike, but yet again a rich man's play thing for Sunday blasts.
Curious why you're thinking it's a Sundays only type bike? There's a full set of luggage bag options available and so on. It would make a great light weight mini-bagger done up right I'd wager.
@@MakoVette I love Indians, I'd have a Scout tomorrow in touring form if I could afford one. And there's a few Indians specifically made for touring (though I agree, you can tour on ANYTHING!). It's just that I don't think this Indian was built for touring in mind when they came up with this Flat tracker. It doesn't really fall into any category. Ride safe.
Coincidentally we were looking at this bike just yesterday in the FLD. Thought you might have pointed out the feature of the footrests being angled to point the toes downward. Someone downthread wanted to change tyres - won't be long before anyone does as the tread is very shallow.
Bikes like these are part of the reason Indian is on its ascendancy while HD doubles-down on its 1947 technology and is shrinking. Indian advertises performance, HD advertises "lifestyle."
Indeed....
The ABS and traction control will get a lot of use in jolly old. Its a wheelie machine for sure with those bags of torque.
Nice review. Very interesting bike & not your typical American offering by any means. It's certainly seems like it"s worth a look. Apparently the Harley 1200 Roadster's pretty cool too. It's very different to this and much more traditional but I do like the look of it. Would be cool to have some American iron in the garage.
Another cracking review. I’m not a huge fan of this particular bike, however it is a big step up on Indian’s offering.
She's a beaut TMF, shame about all the H and S decals spoiling the ' tank ' lines, just my opinion. Cracking vid as always.
A hair dryer, some polish and a lint free cloth will get rid of that because it's only a sticker 🖒
@@RebelRides Agreed , but if it's clear coated over a different proposition all together.
No one leaves those on... It is clear coated but that is not a problem...
@@Bass.Player please enlighten me, i've worked in the bodyshop industry for 20yrs plus, and can't think of a non intrusive method of removal?
@@johnrimmer5812 I have removed dozens of these stickers with a hair dryer and 3m trim adhesive remover, and some of these stickers have been stuck on for a decade. As far as I know all these American bikes come with a load of stickers, How many owned bikes in America do you see with stickers stuck all over it? Synthetic enamel is pretty tough.
That's a great looking bike! I was gloating at one in the showroom last Thursday evening fitted with S&S flat tracker pipes...
Nobody: Hey I’d love a nice looking American bike but it would have to have a touch screen tablet for the dials and info.
Indian: Hold my beer
Great review once again TMF. What would be your pick between the Indian, Ducati Monster 1200S and a BMW R Nine T?
Is that a rad or oil cooler at low level directly behind the front wheel? Not too exposed then!
I sense a new addition to your garage 😋😉
My biggest gripes with this bike are the weight, the 150 rear tire, the small gas tank, and the price is a bit on the high side.
Fair enough!
There is one for sale at my local dealer, pre-owned with 400 km. Someone must have been frightened by it.... I was amazed I could get it off the stand .... that sweet centre of gravity is a gift to some of us 10 lb weaklings :)
I agree - a low COG makes all the difference!
Saw one of these a few weeks back, stunning looking motorcycle, maybe not quite as practical as my GSA. If I could justify another bike I could be tempted...then again your big Triumph is a looker.
Mr Flyer - Me old stomping grounds, the A1101 commute to and from RAF Lakenheath! Of course, your current bit of kit is *quite* different from the GS425 I rode, but I'll bet I had just as much fun. Well I did!!!....Gods, I could use a pint of Greene King bitter right now.
So where are you now Jeff??
@@TheMissendenFlyer I have long ago retired from the US Air Force and semi-retired (if that makes any sense) from the Veterans Administration and I now live in my hometown of Corning, California, right in the middle of the North Valley, approx 110 miles north of Sacramento. No sugar beet tractors up here, but lots of other farm equipment.
Nice! I went to Sacremento a few years back, en-route from SF to the Reno Air Races.....fabulous part of the world.
Great bike overall. Switching 1 to 2 gear misses quite often.
The only American sports bike but a damn good one. This is the only bike from the States that id buy. Still I think they could get more HP out of it and reduce the weight.
Rode one this summer here in WI. Agree could b a bit lighter and a bit more power but overall I liked it alot. Does everything well. Not a full cruiser or a hyper naked but for its intended purpose it rocks. Plenty of torque as well. Already have an EBR1190sx for tearing up the streets and turbo Vrod for cruisin but this would b a great commuter/hooligan bike. Looks great as well. Btw the S&S exhaust on these sound bad ass!
Welcome to my neck of the woods, great review as always
Thank you kindly
I know this an old video but it would be good to see you review the new 2022 version and compare it with the earlier version. 👍🏻
Does look a bike I could see myself on. Honestly though that TFT screen looks like someone has lashed their mobile phone on and 13L tank is just not enough.
Fair enough!
Agreed. I ride in the Great American West and 180 mile range is pretty much a minimum if you don't want to worry about gas stops. Some bikes look OK with a cell phone dash. In my opinion this one does not. Give me two analog clocks instead. Even if they were TFT displays.
@@ronboe6325 That TFT screen looks like something out of a 5 year old really cheap car. Screens today don't have such large borders, this shouldn't either. Looks wise, it looks like a Ducati diavel and monster had a baby.
Nice bike but just me I don't like the modern style of no rear mudguard/seat over the back wheel. Wonder how it compares to my 1200 Sportster, much quicker but I do like a 'lumpy' feel to an engine.
great video, im so jealous of the roads you get to ride on, nothing comparable in phoenix. anyways really sparked my interest in this bike, aside from the hideous plate mount/rear turn signal god awful thing, looks great and performs.
my 3 bike garage: a 1290 super adventure for those trips, this for a weekend hoon and something old like a 70s guzzi for a sunday cruise :)
Hi tmf that bike is absolutely a beauty nice vlog hope they will let you keep it for a while longer so you can do a long term review if not no worries 👌👌🏍
Not normally my kind of bike but i think these look fantastic i may have to try one myslef thanks for the video
Side view of false tank, frame and seat looks like the Norton Comando you just tested. I took a Harley tractor for a test ride. Had it four minutes before I took it back. Hated everything about it. That was 2004 ish.
This looks way better and seems to handle nicely 👍🏻
Sure did!
By 'Merican standards its a light bike. Since our market is weighted to larger bikes that usually go north of 500 lb.
I'm fascinated with the Indian FTR1200 and I have no idea why.....Its not a motorcycle I'd have any use for but I can't get it off my mind. ;) So glad you got a chance to ride one and what a great introduction to the American side ...lol ....way better than starting on a Harley ;)
...well I'm looking forward to trying a Harley at some point - I love all motorcycles and I'm open minded about what they may have to offer....I'm not into the leather satchels and tassels stuff but I do appreciate proper grade engineering....
@@TheMissendenFlyer ....I'm not a Harley hater, but to use your words, I'm sure you'll find a more "proper grade engineering" on the Indian not to mention greater value per dollar.
I know your a big triumph fan, as am I but would have considered this flat tracker instead of your triumph had you have ridden it before? Just curious that's all
Yes I would....
Nice looking bike. Didn't show us what it's like on the motorway. Was that due to the weather? Like the touch screen, although I think analogue would look better. I wonder what's under the fake tank? Did they miss an opportunity to give it a storage compartment, like Honda did with the NC750X.
geoff newman : There are no motorways in that part of the country. The closest thing is the A14 dual carriageway, which runs past Bury St Edmunds. It probably wasn’t close to TMF’s route.
Correct Paul - that plus I don't know that part of the country very well.......at least not the back roads!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Well, that explains that then. Anyway, I wasn't expecting it not to be able to keep up with motorway traffic.
That touch screen probably much cheaper than two nice analogue dials and it looks it. Prefer the dash on the Speed Twin.
I'm not big on retro bikes that sacrifice way too much performance for style, but this looks to be ample and not overly compromised. One of the few American bikes I could possibly ride. The Harley XR1200X was a similarly styled bike, which looked about as rideable a Harley as I'd seen (probably explains why they weren't popular in the US). Lacked the performance of this Indian though. I was also interested in the Buell 1125R/CR, until Harley pulled the plug and I heard that there were a few issues (stators, clutch weep, instrument cluster dying) which were already taking months to get sorted. I'll be interested in the new Harley Streetfighter that's supposed to arrive next year as well. I do love sporting V-Twins, so it's still possible I might own an American bike one day. Especially now that Ducati are leaving them behind, although it's the Orange Austrian brand that is currently topping my list (shame about the colour).
Yeah, the Orange thing must lose a lot of potential sales! Thanks for watching and for stopping by- TMF
Why do some bike manufacturers have an obsession with one colour ? I like red and black, so Triumph and Honda have it sewn up for me. Kawasaki and Ktm are always going to have an issue getting me interested.
No way to argue - that's a great looking bike. !!!
Cheers Scott
Interesting. I always thought that I would like the Scout cruiser range better, but looking at this, I could be persuaded to have a test ride. Did you get any miles on faster roads like the A14.? I have test ridden the three Scout models. Would be interested to see your thoughts in comparison.
No I didn’t unfortunately....