If I was in this tent by myself and a hellacious storm blew up, I would have an internal guyline that would span LONGITUDINALLY, from the low ring on the windward side crossing over to the high ring on the leeward side. Heck, I might have two and just sleep in the middle of the crossed X's that the two internal guys would form. Do I have that physics right? I know you guys have tried this, is there room enough to lay down? I think this would make a seriously awesome canoe/sea kayaking tent. Or a hedging your bets on a nasty weather hike. Sometimes you just don't want to sleep next to trees in wind! I sure wish you guys would do a wind test to illustrate wind performance with/without the internal guys and trekking pole stabilization. A very interesting tent.
If you're not in snow and setting up trekking poles as outriggers, would you just have the carbide tips pointing down still and then guy'ed out? Seems like the point where the pole tip touches the ground could slip since they wouldn't really be penetrating the ground
The pole tips won't slide, there's plenty of down force from the pole and flysheet. You wouldn't need to guy out the pole since if it's windy enough to use the outriggers then you'll also be using the flysheet, which provides all the trekking pole stabilization you'll need.
You have a very nice tent there. Unfortunately, your description cannot tell you the depth of your apse, only the area. How big is the distance from the inner tent wall to where the zippers come together on the ground?
That's just an overhand on a bight, but you can use any loop that won't slip for that. Overhand on a bight is easy, but a figure eight, bowline etc. will all work great!
It'll be well ventilated! With the fly cinched down tight, you won't have too much draftiness. It's all a tradeoff for ventilation in warmer conditions and condensation management. If you're normally camping in high wind and cold conditions then you'd be better off with a dedicated four-season tent like our CrossBow.
@@SlingFin1 Thanks for replying so quickly 👍 I'm mainly a 3-season camper, but cooler conditions and wind in the UK mountains are quite common 🙂 I'll have a look at both options. Can the Portal fly reach the ground if needed? Or do you mean cinched tight against the inner mesh? And if the latter, does that impact water-proofing?
@@NealAndrews The Portal fly will leave a gap of maybe 3" between the perimeter and the ground when fully tightened- this is important for maintaining airflow and minimizing condensation. There should always be space between the fly and the inner mesh! Otherwise you'll get lots of drippy condensation in the tent. Tightening the fly helps maintain that spacing, as does attaching all the toggles and o-rings underneath the fly to the poles.
If I was in this tent by myself and a hellacious storm blew up, I would have an internal guyline that would span LONGITUDINALLY, from the low ring on the windward side crossing over to the high ring on the leeward side. Heck, I might have two and just sleep in the middle of the crossed X's that the two internal guys would form. Do I have that physics right? I know you guys have tried this, is there room enough to lay down? I think this would make a seriously awesome canoe/sea kayaking tent. Or a hedging your bets on a nasty weather hike. Sometimes you just don't want to sleep next to trees in wind!
I sure wish you guys would do a wind test to illustrate wind performance with/without the internal guys and trekking pole stabilization. A very interesting tent.
The wind made me watch this video. I'll upgrade my efforts next outing. Thanks.
I was actually wondering about this. Thanks for answering my questions before I could ask them!
glad we could help!
Attach a shock cord loop to each guy line tab first...then install the guy line... less stress on the tent in strong winds.😉👍
I've never used guidelines before, but watching this video makes me think that I should try setting it up.
You should try! They make the tent much stronger, and they should be used any time you think it could be windy!
Me encanta esta carpa🙂👍
Donde podría conseguirla aquí en España?
You just got a new customer for the crossbow 2. Any Plans to make a crossbow 3p? We all getting older with kids, but same lifestyle...
If you're not in snow and setting up trekking poles as outriggers, would you just have the carbide tips pointing down still and then guy'ed out? Seems like the point where the pole tip touches the ground could slip since they wouldn't really be penetrating the ground
The pole tips won't slide, there's plenty of down force from the pole and flysheet. You wouldn't need to guy out the pole since if it's windy enough to use the outriggers then you'll also be using the flysheet, which provides all the trekking pole stabilization you'll need.
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You have a very nice tent there. Unfortunately, your description cannot tell you the depth of your apse, only the area. How big is the distance from the inner tent wall to where the zippers come together on the ground?
Hi, the depth of the vestibule is about 27"/68cm.
@@SlingFin1 Thanks …👍
@SlingFin1 What's your most wind-resistant tent? Is it the Windsaber?
The WindSaber is our strongest 2P tent! But our strongest overall would probably be the OneUp with the 11.55mm poles in next year’s updated version.
How did you make that loop for the girth hitch when you attached the guyline ?
That's just an overhand on a bight, but you can use any loop that won't slip for that. Overhand on a bight is easy, but a figure eight, bowline etc. will all work great!
Does the full mesh inner not make this tent cold/draughty in wind? (Asking for a friend in the UK)
It'll be well ventilated! With the fly cinched down tight, you won't have too much draftiness. It's all a tradeoff for ventilation in warmer conditions and condensation management. If you're normally camping in high wind and cold conditions then you'd be better off with a dedicated four-season tent like our CrossBow.
@@SlingFin1 Thanks for replying so quickly 👍 I'm mainly a 3-season camper, but cooler conditions and wind in the UK mountains are quite common 🙂 I'll have a look at both options. Can the Portal fly reach the ground if needed? Or do you mean cinched tight against the inner mesh? And if the latter, does that impact water-proofing?
@@NealAndrews The Portal fly will leave a gap of maybe 3" between the perimeter and the ground when fully tightened- this is important for maintaining airflow and minimizing condensation. There should always be space between the fly and the inner mesh! Otherwise you'll get lots of drippy condensation in the tent. Tightening the fly helps maintain that spacing, as does attaching all the toggles and o-rings underneath the fly to the poles.
So sad u don’t ship to Germany
you do have a great shop there that sells the Portal - walkonthewildside.de
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