Clairvoyant Catches The Thunder Bay Serial Killer | Psychic Investigators | Shiver
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2022
- Police find two Canadian girls murdered in a small town. Baffled detectives turn to famous psychic, Noreen Renier, to help identify the murderer. A conflict develops between Reiner's visions and the forensic evidence found at the crime scenes.
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Twenty years is a pitiful sentence for a monster that murdered and raped two young girls! Shame on Canada’s justice system! And I’m a Canadian. 🇨🇦
In Canada, its a miracle the judge didn't apologize to him for murdering those girls, if u wanna commit murder go to Canada or the UK, their sentences are low
He got a life sentence and 20 years jail time. Life sentences means that for the rest if their lives, they will have to ask a parole officer if they want to even drive outside a set boundary, check in regularly and keep their noses very clean. If they commit any crime they will be sent back to jail to serve the life sentence behind bars and with today’s forensic sciences, they won’t be able to get away with anything. Besides that, murderers never get a set release date. They must show that they are no longer a threat and that they have remorse. If the parole board doesn’t think they can be successfully released, they never have to be. I know 20 years doesn’t seem like long enough. If it was my family this guy hurt I’d want him put away forever, or dead. But be assured that most of these guys, after they’ve been released, are tip-toeing and always worrying about landing themselves in prison again. They aren’t out and about living it up. I didn’t know the details surrounding sentencing for murderers in Canada myself and thought the same way (I still do think the prison terms are too short) but they really are sentences to life and most of these guys who do get paroled don’t reoffend. But yeah, longer mandatory prison terms would be better but they might not ever get paroled in the first place. It’s not a guaranteed thing for murderers in Canada.
@@DaniHMcV Appreciate your measured and thoughtful response.
@@DaniHMcV
You’d be surprised about how the Parole Board works in Canadian prisons. You’d also be shocked about the lackadaisical monitoring of parolees. The only way they’re getting sent back to the joint is by getting caught doing something forbidden. You think they haven’t learned how to get away with stuff after 20 years in prison? Keep those blinders on.
@@DaniHMcV What is your source for your research? "Life sentence" certainly does not mean for one's life span in the U.S. The term is used to appease victims and the public in general.
If I were these detectives I would be taking a much closer look into this mans past. It`s almost unheard of that a sexual sadist like this guy would all of a sudden kill two young girls and then just go on and live a normal life like nothing had ever happened. I don`t believe for a second that this animal spent the next 13 years just getting on with his life. I`m certain he killed again!
It's Canadian police..fear being murderered in Canada... idiot's.
I agree 💯!!!! Yes it’s UNHEARD OF !! And it’s not possible for this monster not too!!!! Sure he has done it b4 also I bet !?? , all the neighborhoods pets ?? Were they ever found dead ?? I’m sure there was many that was found dead or gone missing, they usually start off harming animals. Those poor girls , God bless their families . ❤️🙏🏽🙏🏽Toronto ,Canada 🇨🇦
It seems like the police dropped the ball. IMO, the sentencing should have been 30+ years.
That detective was terrible. I feel bad that a man served 6 months in prison with no evidence. They missed the killer because they were focused on the wrong guy.
@@donnawoodford6641 each
WOW, two young women life being taken is only worth 20 years, that NOT justice, life in prison, or the death penalty, that would be justice.
Canada hasn’t had the death penalty since the early 70’s
My cousin was married to Bernadettes brother Byron (RIP). My heart goes out to her family and Donna's family. My Cousin Sandra Johnsons was murdered on Feb 13, 1992. Her body was found on the frozen Neebing/Macintyre floodway. Her murder is still unsolved. Her life mattered, she still matters, she is missed and she is loved. Someone knows something! Also unsolved is the murder of Rena Fox.
so sorry for your loss. yes, many other murders up here and crimes with no resolution yet.
My sister was her best friend. Our family was camping when the police came to talk to my sister at the campsite. I was 10 I really liked Bernadette. She was very nice to me. She would buy things. Her and my sister would take me for lunch. I had a bit of a young boys crush on Bernadette. She was very pretty and very cool.
My middle sister was murdered in thunder bay as well.
I also knew Sandra
@@davidedwards3838 I knew Stephanie. My condolences to your family
20 years WTF! 2 murdered kids, gone from this earth and he only got 20 years.
Does he get out early on good behavior
He should have gotten life or the death penalty.
This was 20 years ago, which means that today, in 2022, he's either out or getting ready to be released.
@@crkmt oh God 😱
Bruh he should just have life in prison if I ever met this guy I would do the same thing to him i’m not kidding
One of the victims brothers said “20 years.. I think justice was served for my sister”
WHAT?!? I mean, I understand that any justice must feel good after over a decade of not knowing who the killer was… but the guy took 2 lives!! 20 years is NOT justice. He won’t even serve the full 20 years.. he’ll probably be out in less than 15 years. Unbelievable.. the justice system is so broken. People like him should never be given another shot at freedom ever again. He took away 2 innocent teenage girl’s lives . He stole their freedom. Why should he be given his? He didn’t show his victims any mercy when they undoubtedly begged him not to kill them. Yet, the justice system gives monsters like him chance after chance to reoffend and tear families apart. Unbelievable
Btw 2 murders he was caught for. I bet there were more.
Unfortunately this is considered a decent sentence by Canada's standards.
I thought the same thing.
@@robyno3774 we have huge flaws here in the US judicial system, but he should have spent the rest of his life in prison.
He should have gotten life imprisonment with no parole at the least.
I feel so bad for David Binguis, he lost his girlfriend and for years, it probably haunted him, I hope he finds peace.
LIFE SENTENCE SHOULD MEAN THE REST OF A PERSONS LIFE UNTIL THEIR DEATH IN PRISON.!!! 20 YEARS ISN'T ENOUGH.
And all those years he lived free before prison. 😒
Murderers should be in prison for life with no parole. And especially a vicious multiple murderer like this should never be let out
When I saw the sketch and the photo side by side, I got instant chills. It was so accurate!
Amazing how much information the clairvoyant/psychic picked up before the murderer was found. Especially the drawing of him.
Yes , it's unbelievable but there it is .
I was sent once a recording of a case. I think it is still active where a child was murdered. They allowed and paid for this woman to work on it. The information was ok but in no way gave any evidence that could have been used. It is the parents who killed this child but no proof or evidence that can be used to capture them. I can’t remember whether the child’s body was found or not but sad case
@@happy10111 Unbelievable indeed
The use of a "psychic"... What a joke ! May be we're in presence of a web problem or anything, but I don't feel I saw the same video you're talking about... The sketch had nothing in common and speaking 'bout the name , psychic always have "an r, r, r...t, t may be..."
If you're able to name just a case where a "psychic" gave any kind of help resolve a case to the police...
everyone is happy with 20 years. In reality it might be 10-15 years. For the lives of two women. It should be full term life. !!!
Amazing woman! It must be so emotionally and physically draining to "tune in" to visions and then be discounted. Thank goodness for her and those like her❤️
20 years for two 1st degree murder? Gets to plead down to 2nd degree? How many others are out there in those 13 years between? Cuz ya know they don’t stop until they are caught.
In Thunder Bay murders get even lighter sentences, Alex Cheesequay is one of them. He murdered his 17 year old girlfriend and mother of his child. The jury recomended 25 years, and the judge gave him ten, He is out now and lives in Edmonton Alberta.
WTF?
Holy god. That's way too lenient.
Stay safe out there! Lots of monsters roaming around..
We made these monsters
School sistem .....
@@MrMarek19 oh, dear God. Parents create monsters and sometimes society but rarely is the school system at fault. You can't even spell system.
@@staceystrukel1917 that would be the question how are they made. I think its both. And how you are rsised or what goes on in the raising. Ice man is a great case to show this. The interview with Dr Stone is amazing. Ice man was worried about his kids being like him. Stone says they have it in there geans its how you rased them on wearher they kill. Some killers its not the parents it what people out side of the family who may have influence. Not the school unless they are beating and sexualy assaulting them as in Indian schools. Schools have little influence. School killers mass shooter are differnt head space. Mostly well let me know if you know any who are not white strieght middle class men or teens.
A bit belated, this was in 1987.
@@MrMarek19 "System"
Bless the young ladies souls and may they rest in peace.
Amen 🙏
20 years for both murders. What a disgrace to these beautiful girls.
20 YEARS IS PATHETIC. SHOULD BE 20 per victim & MANDATORY DOUBLED PER VICTIM WHEN THERE'S A CLAIM OF NO MEMORY OF THE CRIMES.
Wow, seeing the man and the sketch gives me chills. That’s crazy.
Another excellent episode - never disappointing. Many thanks for sharing it with all of us.
"There was no sign of violent death - but there were plastic bags around their heads." Well, there's your sign.
Yeah, that made me yell at my screen. Clueless cop. Being raped & then murdered via asphyxiation is a violent death.
The families are satisfied with 20 years?????? Sad.
No I can promise you they are not.
Wow, they think 20 years is good. How about death penalty.
That is absolutely fantastic- first, that the killer was brought to justice and second, that the authorities are open minded enough to consider and pursue the avenue of psychic investigation. 👍🏻
They'll always tell you about the hundred times they got it right, but never about the 2000 times they got it wrong.
Thanks for sharing this story with us. I live in Ontario Canada and had never heard of this case.
He got off easy.
20 years? Wtf
I saw this psychic before. She was pretty accurate
July 11 2000 I was 5 years old and I was at a kid from schools birthday at this arcade place I believe it was called rukers. Cops came and picked up the dad of the kid who’s birthday we where celebrating. Turns out the father was Larry Runholm. Never saw the kid or mother again. They moved away and changed there names.
20 yrs only that is sad sad sad
How did they not find his vehicle once in 13 years? Never mind, they did when they pulled him over for dui. Brutal police work
Should have got 20 yrs. for each murder not for both.
So sorry for the loss of life of those two beautiful girls, how they never had a chance to live their lives. He got 15 more years of freedom plus still gets his life. Condolences to their families. However it's amazing how callus they treated the first suspect who wasn't guilty of anything and even after they arrested the killer the "so called" detective was sorry they couldn't charge him with anything 15 years after the fact of him being innocent and spending half a year locked up. I wonder how many innocent people this guy but behind bars with little to no evidence, just because he thought they were guilty of "something". My bets is a lot of innocent people, even one is to many.
C’est fascinant comme les médiums ont la capacité d’entrer littéralement dans l’esprit des criminels. Si on se réfère à la physique quantique et au processus de guérison chamanique, on observe qu’un changement de perspective peut accéder à des informations que la sphère de la physicalité est incapable de fournir.
That’s amazing how she helped catch the killer! Sick man is going to stay in prison thankfully! Anyone who rapes anyone is just evil!
In the casino I work in, there's a cook in the deli that got out of prison 3 years ago for murdering a 17 year old when he was 24. It's crazy to have such a predator just working like a normal person. He did 16 years
You need to STOP
16 years is definitely not enough.
@@Thelittlemommashow 😒🙄
@@ladyboywonder9139 wtf is wrong with you. You should probably be put away yourself.
Omg. That is absurd 😢
She is an amazing gift!
This is my home town and I had never heard of this case 🥺
He should never be released!! It's terrifying he will be back in the public at 52-53?????WTF!
thank you
Every dude looked like that drawing at that time. Lmaoooo
The detectives investigating these cases were incompetent at best. First they ignore evidence that points to the innocence of their primary suspect, then they enlist the services of a psychic, both of which reek of desperation. If it weren't for advances in technology they wouldn't have had a clue. They shouldn't develop a suspect and then work backwards to make their evidence fit.. They are supposed to let the evidence lead them to a suspect.
The OPP doesn’t have a good track record.
I understand they want to solve the murder, but fingering a suspect for serial killing is a quick way to ruin an innocent persons life.
Bird flipper so you are detective ????
That's probably why detective got desk duty after😆
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Wow this was very interesting
My Mom worked on this case. Those officers were my dutch Dads and Uncles. I'm so proud of the work they did.
Unfortunately those poor girls were my age, and I remember the frustration everyone felt at not being able to find the killer right away. But they never forgot, never gave up. It's a wonder I was ever let out of the house. Wow.
Stacey Small (Marilynn Small)
Amazing!
It should be 20 for each girl.
20 years that's 10 years for each murder. Then he's still young enough when he gets out to kill again. Makes no sense. Idont believe he would stop at two.
Why were they disappointed that they couldn’t charge the first suspect when he was innocent
17:27 The sketch is very impressive.
What? he killed 2 girls and he gets 20 years jail? He should get minimum 25 years for each victim plus another 20 for good measure.
The value of having an open mind❤
Hey, my TV reports are in this episode. What a shocking, disturbing case to cover
If that was my daughter I would hope he got less than 20 years. 20 years is a long time to wait. 🇺🇸
I hear what you are saying
I lived in TB 10 yrs after this happened and never even knew this.
be safe everyone..many blessings 💕🦋💕🦋💕🦋💕🦋💕🦋💕🦋
And the same to you! 💕
@@annanderson7 🦋💕🦋💕🦋💕🦋💕💕🦋💕🦋💕🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
@@Indiana-j1t ..thank you dearly
OMG so awesome
Amazing
The police wanted to convict the first guy and when the evidence didn't point to him they gave up
Was the young man compensated for his 6 months of wrongful imprisonment?
Why are these psychics never clear with their description. It's like a blurry ufo video.
a female waslking the streets ALONE at 11pm is not safe and has not been safe for along time now whether we like it or not and many tend to throw cauton to the wind easpecailly the younger ones.PLESAE use the buddy system night and day. Having said that of course more needs to be done to catch these predators/rapists sooner than later, but catching the right man or men is imperative. Putting a scapegoat behind bars is not going to be of use to anyone but the predator himself.
Something needs to be done to the source of unsafety.. We aren't going to start locking ourselves in after 6pm..
@@einienj3281 speak for yourself! IAM ! 🤣 But seriously, all animals have predators and the best thing we can do for ourselves is acknowledge that predators exist and evil exists and make choices with that in mind. 11pm is too late to walk alone. I see no harm in asking for company or waiting for a better time.
@@OisO8 And if You are alone and you get out of work at 11pm? No one to pick You up, can't afford a taxi or something.. Yes, it's good to be aware of your surroundings, but instead of teaching women to be afraid of everything and everyone, maybe do something about the issues, that are causing the attacks..
@@einienj3281 everyone has predators, not just women. Don't teach ppl to be afraid. Teach them to be aware and how to handle predators. 1st know that they exist. 2nd accept that evil exists.
So tragic! No one is safe anywhere or anytime. Innocent people killed even in their own beds. Satan truly rules this plane! May we all be safe & blessed.
Why do family members of murdered kids,always want an "explaination" for their actions???.I've never heard such a stupid question!,these.men are SICK psychopaths!!,THATS. the only reason!
Ultimately, you are right. I think it helps the mind. I was curious because he was a child at the time so I wanted to know also, what the scenario was and what triggered him. Although you're right and nothing changes by knowing.
It's not stupid when it's your family member. It's a hard thing to process and your want answers. And yes I am speaking from experience.
If we can understand what causes psychopathy, we can prevent it.
Sexual predators are the worst kind because they do it for pleasure, it's rewarding for them and therefor they're not likely to stop.
Eliminated from their inquiries, just by not being in when they knocked.
How do we get in touch with this investigator???
Two murders 20 yrs? Wow not even a life sentence.
Two deliberate, premeditated murders, and the price is 10 years per human...or fewer, if he behaves himself in prison.
The Psychic eyes scared me
He only got 20 years?? Madness!
Amazing psychic
When she said "see more" , I thought I was watching The Simpsons
The commission of a homicide during the course of a felony would have landed him on death row in Ohio.
Does anyone know if he's been paroled or not? I can't find anything on Google.
20 years takes him to 2023 so in 1 year there may be info on him.
He said at the end "we were disappointed we couldn't charge suspect A"... Wtf?! He should be disappointed that he tried to make an innocent man fit his scenario, completely ignoring the guy didn't have a blue truck nor right finger prints
Once my bf got me to meet a guy who was a taxi driver not long started doing it i shook his hand and got a horrible terrible feeling about him, my bf asked me what i thought of him i said stay the hell away from him he is bad news, i was right as he tryed to come on to many woman! My bf ended up staying the hell away from him!
Can you see things that are going on in the lives of people that are still alive?
Be safe! Women take care traveling and driving at night.
soooo...police work and technology catching up with itself solved the crime.
Hi...can anybody tell me if he knows of course how can i put Greek subtitles in English videos like this one?? I got jealous when i saw another Greek lady do this so i want to show off too..plus i will be of use to those who dont speak the language...thank you in advance!!!
I need a Noreen.
Home sweet home!
13 years to find a specific blue truck of a certain make & model, in a small city like Thunder Bay???
Im failing to see how "Clairvoyant Catches The Thunder Bay Serial Killer". He was caught by a computer running finger prints. smh
Maybe it’s the cops didn’t do their jobs! She gave the information they chose not to do the hard yards!
It’s clickbait, as phony as psychics themselves
@@sydkiriakou2481 I agree cops a lot of time botch investigations, but all she gave them to go off of was an "R" and a crappy drawing.
Regardless the fact remains she did not "catch" him as the title claims.
Is there ever closure for the family?
Interesting!They should put Noreen Renier on the Elisa Lam case.
Why no video ?
Jesu knows the truth- he sure will get his memory jolted when He stands before Him
2nd degree murder what?
That’s a Jon Walsh right there
Wonder how many he had killed over the years.hence he can't really remember victim from victim.why wasn't Noreen's photo put out to the public.?
Could the killer in thunder bay have any relations to the murders on the the high way
No bug the murders on the highway and a lot of the murders in thunder bay are done beyond the same people. Just not this one.
Why only twenty years for two murders. It should be life
She LOOKS like a psychic.
Sometimes ya just gotta believe. 👍🇨🇦🇺🇸
The eyes on the phscis ,,,,,,
My prayers are with those angel girls that suffered and have past.to ma y cruel people in the world.this could have been yours or my children please everyone stage safe trust know one educate the generation of today that it is not safe always watch your back,never go alone,it could be neighbors relatives sure gets you just done know any more,always carry z morrow so you can always check your self out but you are checking for creeps.please stay safe all of you but remember to all ways look behind you,trust know one God bless everyone amen
2nd degree murder? Wtf
To much paper work for these police officer's, hard for them to handle. It's Canadian law...👍😜🇨🇦.