The behavioral marker about abusing animals is also the sign of a serial killer so that track. The domestic violence trait would also disqualify a lot of law enforcement from having guns. As Beau said, this issue is so deeply rooted in America that people would have to admit to many other problems to address this.
@@donanders2110 yes and: ... once all the asshole, DV perp, cops are fired we can give the rest of them raises to take some strain off their marriages.
Every farmer on factory farms abuses animals as part of their job! Yes-cows and pigs and chickens are animals too, not just cats and dogs. Animal rights activists have been telling you guys about how being cruel to animals dehumanizes human beings as well, for decades. But nobody wants to give up your conveniences. And I bet everybody ignores this comment like they always do
Yeah the trailer park folks didn't fix their cats. My buddy took care of em at a young age. He's facing 5 years for asslut right now. But man has he done some sick stuff. And good parenting is needed so kids can learn to think.
The USA doesn't have more mental health issues than any other developed nation. However, all the other countries have strick gun laws. Ain't that difficult to work it out ...
@@erincaitlin1655 Not the point I'm making. Republicans say it's mental health (which is a half truth), but then they won't do anything to fix what they claim is the true problem.
WELL Let's think through the operational side ... Who is going to go in and remove the guns? And who is going to get killed trying to do that? And how can anyone know that they have found all the guns?
@@richardgreen7225 It’d have to be about prohibiting sales to individuals convicted of DV. Which doesn’t actually remove any weapons that they already possessed.
Richard Greene this is something where I believe that Beau is pretty well on point ; confiscating them all is pretty thoroughly impractical. But there could be some measure of confiscations ; depending on the circumstances and regulatory rules should be put into place to try to better manage the disposition of firearms in the future . The journey of a 1000 miles begins with a single step.
Because they would have to be the ones to enforce it. Its not to protect their own right to own guns as domestic abusers, its because they don't want to kick down doors and takes guns away, some perhaps from some ideological perspective of not liking authoritarianism, but mostly just because they don't want to get shot and get PTSD.
They confiscate guns from criminals facing or convicted of other charges. To say they are afraid of doing it for DV when they routinely take them from others is ridiculous.
@@autumnshinespark Men who are victims are going to stay quiet. My dad never said a word, my mom loved her gun and he liked breathing. A friend did make a report and his girlfriend counter charged so his hunting rifle was taken away because everyone knows the man is always the DV perp. They finally did get her when she violated HIPPAA laws to find his new girlfriend's location so she could stalk and threaten her too.
Not really, if you actually read the study and do more research, you'll find that the average civilian is 185.47x more likely to commit an offense above a class B misdemeanor than the average officer
Amen to that, Tom. Kids are expendable once they exit the womb. What the Hell, eh? You can always make another one - especially when birth control and abortions are outlawed with no exceptions for rape or incest. Just keep them wimmen preggers.
I think there’s 3 issues with this VERY sensible approach you laid out: 1) A lot of women don’t report domestic violence incidents because they don’t get believed or taken seriously. So guys will slip through the cracks that way 2) Many of the women that DO actually report on it still don’t get believed so it never goes on the record of the men committing the acts of violence 3) This category of men contains a lot of law enforcement officers. So the powerful Police Unions won’t allow this legislation to be passed.
And a lot of women in a relationship with a police officer would report DV if it automatically would end her husband's career which would effect the woman's own bottom line (Home mortage,car payments,the kid's college fund,retirement plans that involve savings and a cop's pension. Another group of people that nobody talks about are Lesbian women who make up a sizable amount of the female police staff and who have a history of domestic violence in their relationships as well.
In my former home town a woman cop married a cop who was a known abuser/DV - his previous wives all reported his abuse to no avail. She did not report the abuse until AFTER they were divorced. He got in hot water at work for insubordination but never in trouble at his job for any DV issues. issues.
@@toddthreess9624 They would just say "the second amendment is absolute and cannot be debated" conservatives would eat that shit up, as stupid as it is
Stalking, Animal Abuse, Domestic Violence. All huge indicators of future violence. These are good places to start. National waiting period wouldn't bug me and I love guns.
Steve, a national ban on ANY semi-automatic rifle with a capacity greater than 5 rounds, the magazine of any semi- automatic rifle must be non-removable, federal background checks, 3-5 day after purchase waiting period. I also like my guns but if effective control doesn’t happen we’re going to lose them.
@@hellohellohellohowlow5901 You realize that involuntary admittance is a thing, right? Did you even do the one goddamn thing Beau asked of you, to watch the whole video?
I'm a Swedish gunowner. Before getting my license, there's obviously a background check done. But more importantly, once I've gotten my guns, there's a daily automated check against my criminal record and if anything major, such as domestic violence or cruelty against animals, pops up the police will be at my door to confiscate my guns. Heck, even a series of speeding tickets, unless I have a really good explanation can result in me losing my guns, because it shows a history of disregard for rules and regulations. In the gun violence that does exist in Sweden, over 99.5% is committed with guns that were never once legally licensed in the country. It's all smuggled guns and home-made guns. We have not had a single mass shooting by a person with their own legally licensed and owned firearm. In the one serial-killer case we've had that used a legally licensed firearm, it was one of the rare exceptions where the police did not act despite this person being reported by his own gun club. Our system isn't perfect, but it works.
The problem with the U.S. is that we want one solution that works perfectly 100% of the time. Anything less than perfection is seen as useless. Gee, if we could solve 50% of the solution while working on the other 50%, wouldn't that mean we are making progress? We are a nation ruled (I can't call it governed) by people that can't think critically, don't understand logic, and are only interested in their own political power. And we are populated by enough morons that these kinds of politicians get voted into office.
@Bryan Kirby ... and those US saviours of Sweden will obviously be those hootin' tootin' hillbillies with their private assault rifle collections, shipped off abroad right after they're done with the next elementary school in line - right ? Man, it would be inappropriate to tell you in what orifice you got your head stuck, but you'll get the idea.
@Bryan Kirby Gun culture, worship of gangsters, con men, and the sacrosanction of the 2nd amendment are all currently American. But we are, fortunately, more than that as Americans. There is a huge majority that want nothing to do with any of that. As Americans we have this in common with other countries. What has happened is the minority takeover of our culture, laws.
@Bryan Kirby Nice try. Yes, Americans with vast amounts of training, levels of responsibility and accountability can be called up to protect other NATO countries..in addition to the other 30 member states who have highly trained military but whose private citizens don’t have the ability to own military style weaponry or for some reason don’t feel the need to shoot mass volumes of the population. Regardless, all military personnel are vetted for suitability for the corps. Sounds like you wouldn’t pass the test. On top of that, all military personnel are trained for the proper use of tactical combat and weapons appropriate to the situation. On the contrary, there is no training much less little to no vetting required for a private individual to be able to buy a weapon legally in the US. Of course it is true that training by itself is not the only key to responsible ownership, in fact without vetting, the training is almost moot. As in the military, you must be vetted to be able to use a firearm for combat. But not for private gun ownership. You nor your buddy next door will not be called up for duty because you own a gun as that in no way shows suitability for even credibility to serve. Do you see the difference? Your ability to shoot up a school, mall or your workplace, take a hostage at gunpoint or threaten your spouse with a gun in no way makes you a viable candidate for military service. But it does make you a high risk to the public without a vetting process and that’s where the responsible gun owner should have no problem with age limits, background checks and in-depth and ongoing vetting. This may save you, your children or your spouse. Coz as we’ve seen with Uvalde, the police were on scene and delayed interaction with the shooter and he still gained entry to the school. The police did not engage with the shooter despite the fact they had guns. It has now come to light and there is video footage of police taking cover (aka “hiding”) because they were received fire. So what about their guns? Why didn’t they use them? Seems like they were scared their guns couldn’t protect them. The local police failed in their response despite gun in hand. So again, just because you can own a gun does not make you deserving of the privilege. In fact you should have to earn the right, not just assume it. You can’t just drive a vehicle on public roads without proof of capability nor should you be able to own firepower without capability and culpability. Since January of 2022 there have been 214 mass shootings in the US. 3 more just since the Uvalde incident. A mass shooting is considered 4 or more victims not counting the shooter. This count is more than all the major countries in the world put together. Most of which haven’t have had 214 mass shootings in the last 50 years. And there’s yer sign.
I’m sad the parents didn’t overpower the cops, cuff them, steal their weapons, and charge the shooter. Fair chance we’d have had a slightly better outcome. 🤷♀️
It does not destroy the good guy with a gun argument, it destroys the 'lets leave it up to the cops to protect us' argument. These shooters are typically still brought down by a good guy with a gun.
The "boyfriend" thing...it's bullshit! I had restraining orders, he was a convicted batterer, he still had a gun. He still came to my house regularly, by the time police show up, he's long gone. He broke out windows to get into the house because we reinforced the doors. He broke a window, stuck his arm in with a gun and fired it into the wall. He did actually get a charge for that one, but still had his gun. He never spent more than 90 days in jail for the hell he put me through. Even when he threw me down my front steps while I was pregnant and I ended up having my son prematurely and losing him. He robbed a Hardee's restaurant with weapons and ended up with 2- 20 year sentences for it and 5 for an attempted escape. The law knew he was dangerous and it took him committing armed robbery to finally get him locked up and out of my life.
I like this guys videos but knowing someone who is extremely close to me & experienced DV Beau is simply wrong to think solving DV will solve gun violence or that it’s easier to solve. Ban certain military grade weapons, do not sell guns to those that can’t buy a beer, & offer buy back programs or tax credits for any guns turned in that are no longer legal to own. Of course do better background checks as well. Might not prevent the next incident but it can still make a dent & yes we should certainly address DV & mental illness much more seriously but that alone will not fix the gun problem. DV & mental illness exist in all countries, the guns in this quantity, type & easy access doesn’t. Protection does not require weaponry meant for war.
That sounds like a good, common sense solution that would definitely have a huge impact on the problem. That it would also apply to cops is a huge hurdle, but that begs the question. How are domestically abusive officers allowed to keep their jobs? If they're abusive towards the people closest to them, they're hardly going to be less so with other people if they're not going to face any consequences for their actions.
well, the victims of the southern baptist convention pedos need to use RAINN for class action since the list came out yesterday, thats what victims advocates are saying, dont use guideposts list, revictimized, that too
@@kimthomas781 True. I'm concerned that supremacists may have built power within the unions, since they're generally not intelligent enough to rise to high ranks in the force. The police union rhetoric is definitely not left wing, and that's unusual in unions.
Yes. And what does that say about all of us? Have you ever seen the conditions of the slaughterhouses and the factory farms, and the “scientific experiments” conducted on millions of animals? Do you not think we are all living on the suffering of sentient beings? What does that say about all of us?
@@tombrown4683 yep. Like going to the store to buy a package of meat and never even thinking about the torture that went into that convenient product you buy
It’s very hard to prove domestic violence if there has not been an arrest and conviction. Also I imagine that animal abuse is often hidden or not reported. So there would be a lot of DV perpetrators who will go unnoticed. That said, I totally agree that those traits should disqualify a person from owning a gun and any prevention is worthwhile.
As a woman who knows how slick guys can be in front of the law after perpetrating domestic violence, I have some hesitation about how effective this might be. Too many women are not believed. Too many police forces dismiss women's complaints. Too many domestic abusers know this very well and incorporate those facts into their abuse cycle - "no one is going to believe you" and they know where to put the bruises. There are also those who torture in other ways, mental, emotional, verbal and financial. They know exactly where the law draws the visible line and play to it. Wish I could be more enthusiastic, I just know too many wounded women.
Your not wrong. Hell if we handled DV better the numbers he's talking about would prob be 70-90% not 40-60%. That said his point is we can point to 40-60 of these shooting a KNOW they have a record in DV. These are guys convicted not slick talkers. Just this alone would help and that's what he's getting at. Not to detract from your point at all, I wish we did better because i'm confident this stat is low for exactly what your saying.
As Ryan said, Beau’s numbers are only taking into consideration the known abusers. Yet it still has that much of a connection. Unless abusers with guns get better at hiding it, then this will still help.
It's extremely difficult because there is a psychological binding that occurs between the abuser and the abused. It works similar to brainwashing. Even while you are in it, there is a part of you that knows, but you just can't. That shame you feel is the worst. You don't want anyone to know. You can't take the way people look at you, and you understand when they walk away from you in disgust because you keep going back. Just thinking about it makes me feel sick
Imagine if we had universal healthcare in this country and parents could get help for their troubled teens. Instead of not being able to afford help and prying nothing bad happens!
Americans don’t have a problem with universal education, government funded police and fire departments, why do you think universal health care is socialism. Health care is a basic human right and is funded by lots of western democracies.
It’s interesting that the people who tend to do this also tend to be evil to women and animals. It’s almost like they’re pathetic losers who spend their lives kicking down at those who are less able to fight back.
THIS! Also, silly side note: I literally did this once, while walking to catch a bus during college. Did not know the child, but he was hitting another smaller child trying to fend off the blows with some cardboard, while a third, a very upset little girl, was trying to make him stop. I didn't even think about it and didn't break my stride, I just automatically shifted my direction and walked into the yard, which got their attention, and they all froze... Walked up to the boy, paused, bent forward slightly at the waist and just plucked the stick from his hand, never breaking eye contact. He stayed frozen, aghast at the whole thing! Then I turned and walked back out of the yard-- and quickened my pace to get down the street because he started bawling and I was afraid a parent might *finally* appear to inopportunely investigate the sound of hysterical screaming in the front yard, lol.
Hypothetical Reporter: "Senator, why are you refusing to take guns out of the hands of wife beaters?" The Real Answer: Because a lot of wife beaters are cops.
And, these are not bad ideas from Beau, but for anyone paying attention to the NRA's reactions to ANY legislation to limit guns, its a total NO. Because they realize it is a gateway for adding more and more restrictions. That's why they blocked mental health background checks. That's why they blocked simple fingerprint unlock technology (strongly for years and years), and so on. Also, its not politicians that are "deciding" what gun restrictions may pass and which won't. It's the gun lobby funding their campaigns and the gun lobby's attack mob to that they instruct to badger and threaten politicians against pass any gun restrictions.
an australian here.60% dv connection and 100% easy access to firearms . licence and registration work. contrary to what many americans think we here in AU can and do have firearms but there is a requirement that every weapon is registered and every owner is licensed. it works . it may take 5, 10, 50 years but if you don't start it never happens.
The answer to this is not putting armed guards in tactical gear throughout every school hallway. Innocent people, children, get caught in the crossfire. People can have any weapon they want. They need to be able to handle and use it properly BEFORE they bring it home. The right to vote is taken from felons. The right to have a gun should be taken from people that have shown to be someone who can't be trusted with that tool. Not really different than when they take someone's ability to drive a car. Also, and eventually more importantly, we need to change attitudes about guns in America. Politicians shooting guns in their ads to show how tough they are, is wrong. Look at how many t-shirts you can buy with the picture of a muscular guy holding an assault rifle with a flag and eagle behind him. Society in America equates assault weapons with machismo and patriotism. It doesn't take much to pull a trigger. The tools of machismo should be hammers, saws, wrenches, tractors, even computers, pencils, or cameras. The machismo should be about constructive tools not tools of destruction. It's a false machismo. The whole idea of the alpha male is based on faulty research. The "alpha male" is actually a scared male.
As someone who's been working in animal shelters for a long time, THANK YOU for the "being mean to animals" comment. If folks want real data on that, HSUS has a FAQ about studies on the escalation of violence as warning signs. Domestic abusers and domestic terrorists start with victims who can't report them (animals, small children) and work their way up to the elderly and children, then to adults. The kid who's been hurting stray animals in your town needs real mental health support before they are an adult.
And yet again, there's the healthcare factor raising its ugly head to get in the way of the debate. US: lowest in developed world in healthcare, highest in gun ownership. If only a percentage of taxpayers' money that bought freaking firearms & more on the military budget went towards healthcare. Imagine the differences.
I have a good friend that carries a gun. He asked me why I don't. I told him I didn't need to. He seemed confused. It is not manly to carry a gun. It is not a show of strength to carry a gun/weapon. It shows weakness, it shows fear, it shows a lack of imagination. I own guns. I enjoy practicing with them. I don't need to carry them in public. They are not an option I wish to exercise. If I have a problem I have better options, I force myself to exercise thise.
@Bryan Kirby I know that a lot of very brave men carry guns. I'm not talking about those who carry for professional reasons. But when the gun comes out into plain sight, it is due to fear.
Six months ago, Jon Stewart’s show, “The Problem with Jon Stewart”, ran an episode about gun violence. They came to the same conclusion about enforcing the existing laws prohibiting domestic violence offenders from owning guns. They also mentioned that domestic dispute calls made up 41% of fatal police calls.
Back I the day almost every house had a gun. Its was just kept in the closet and kids knew not to touch it. (Ammo sep) its was just viewed as a dangerous tool and not to play with. Like a chainsaw. No problems. Now its "I'm a strong soldier man, look at my big gun instead of my small ween"
What day was that, Matty? I've been a hunter almost all my life and, no, not every household had guns. And those guns were also bolt action rifles with 5 round magazines.
@@clayoreilly4553 where I grew up in the 70's and 80's there were a whole lot of semiautomatic firearms. Almost everyone there still has em. Handguns mostly these days though. Which to me, are more worrisome than AR15's.
@@clayoreilly4553 The '90s in rural and midsize-town Wisconsin was like that for me. Even families that didn't hunt had "the gun" some where in their house.
Ya pretty much from the frontier times up to modern.When people, u know...needed them. Alot up until 60s 70ish. Longer in more rural areas like mentioned above. Not sure about your confusion. Great job trying to undermine my point by starting with...Matty?, I guess. Good thing you made a great counter argument too so you didnt make yourself sound dumb in your own reply.
My one concern with this plan is that a lot of domestic violence goes under reported and under convicted. We have already seen issues with people going after red flag laws due to DV because it is "taking the guns away without due process " or "its just her word against his." Their defense when voting against this will be " of course I'm against people who hurt their spouse having a gun, but we are a nation of laws and we have to go through the proper procedures (which we have set up to be very complicated and often biased against women's power and safety)."
well, the victims of the southern baptist convention pedos need to use RAINN for class action since the list came out yesterday, thats what victims advocates are saying, dont use guideposts list, revictimized, that was a literal warning from victims advocates i saw
I have mental health issues. I KNOW I can never own a gun. I'm OK with that. I don't need one. Happy without one. I do believe that people prone to domestic violence shouldn't have weapons. It's an invitation to mayhem.
having been in a relationship where I was the recipient of Domestic Violence … *HUGE* fan of fixing these red-flag laws, and disarming all the domestic attackers!! 💜🙏
@Ewoks A Lot no. .that's against due process. If someone is to lose their rights, they need to be fully prosecuted. Abuse of laws happen time and time again.
@@Maggie-zr2ow where did I say that? I simply stated people need due process. Quit putting words in my mouth. Edit: it's also nonsense people make this about women. Men and women can be victims of abuse.
@@dan2178 Look. there's due process and then we have dead bodies. I'm sick and tired of people blindly valuing some ideal that doesn't work perfectly in reality and then, saying "" Oh, so sorry that your ex-boyfriend killed you. Oh well.. I wonder what I'm having for dinner??" We know that those paper restraining orders don't work. Dead bodies are the proof. So when are we going to stop murdering the victims by refusing to do anything about it? I'm all for respecting the domestic abusers rights.. as long as somebody pays with their life when the victim dies. Who wants to pay up? Same for relocation expenses and other expenses because of stalking. I think the people who want to gamble with the victim's lives should be financially liable. That way, they are incentivized to find a solution to dealing with abusers.
@@jenniferhunter4074 I agree with you but I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. We can put the defendants on house arrest with tracking devices, in extreme cases where the violence is well documented, a jail cell will do fine. When they get prosecuted they go to prison. No need to complicate things. However I would like a distinction between verbal arguments and actual physical violence and murdering when it comes to domestic violence. I will say this. Domestic violence should require violence. and should be charged as a violent crime, when the victim is very badly hurt, it should prosecuted as attempted murder. Shouting matches should be prosecuted as something else as I feel it too often takes the image of domestic violence and downplays the actual violence occuring.
Bellow are the procedures to own a restricted gun in Canada: In my province (Quebec) we have Law 9, it’s a psychological test and also a hand on test at a gun range with a instructor that make sure you know gun safety BUT analyse your behaviour around guns. They have to sign off your law 9 test so you can apply for a possession permit. And the PPA and Law 9 passed. AND AFTER passing the CFSC/CRFSC (restricted and non restricted gun safety couse) you take all those documents to the gunsmith and go buy your gun. The gunsmith has to register your gun to the government if it’s a restricted arme (handgun, black gun) not if it a hunting riffle. You need to carry all those papers and the gun license delivered buy the gunsmith to the gun range… oh! And you also need to be a member of a gun range to buy a restricted firearm… all those little process can take you 6 weeks to 4 months. And also you get from the government a carry permit from your house to the gun range IF YOU GOT OUT OF THE ROUTE PERMITTED YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND COULD FACE JAIL TIME! AUTOMATICALLY JAIL IF YOU GET CAUGHT ON SCHOOL GROUND. And!! In your application you need the referral of 5 person that aren’t in your family so the government can call them for questioning … if you really serious about owning a gun. That’s what we go through in Canada. I rent a gun at the range… easier and don’t need to clean it.
Back to the old, got to take responsibility if you want rights. We in the USA don't look to other countries for counsel on what works there. And yes, most of it is as simple as stringent gun courses and passing tests during which time there are people who can raise red flags about someone's mental health. We always want to cry personal liberty, but forget to think about how your freedoms infringe upon mine.
@@kendallsmith1458 dont be fooled by his simple way of presenting things, the man is well read and knows the audience. i wouldnt be surprised if he already knew this but doesnt include it because how hard it is to implement in the US. look at how people reacted to the mask mandate, now imagine how much the people would fight if the US govt even considered to implement this kind of gun control.
What always strikes me is, having been kidnapped by a cop I did not know, I never hear of firemen NOT rushing into a burning building to save someone. Always a cop thats the coward. That says it all to me.
I don’t understand any cop who stands outside while an active shooter is loose. I’m a firefighter; I’ve been scared shitless inside a fire, said I was never doing that again ( but did after calming down), but I always carried through and did my DUTY because I volunteered. No one made me join, I chose this profession. I’m also a concealed carry license holder, and if I were present when an active shooter appeared, I would take my chances doing the right thing. I expect no less of every cop in this country, and before anyone paints me as anti-cop, my dad and my brother were/are cops and I KNOW they wouldn’t sit outside waiting for someone else to do something.
@@lesstraveledpath at least this sentiment is exceedingly rare. Unfortunately, there are some rare documented cases of emts refusing to treat or touch transgender patients due to transphobia, like in the case of Tyra Hunter (it's all too common in other branches of medical care, about 1/2 of trans people, and 68% of trans people of color, face mistreatment from medical professionals based upon being transgender). This being said, I have nothing but respect for emts and other emergency specialists. They are heros who are overworked and underpaid. It's more a symptom of the insidious misinformation spread by the culture war that demonizes trans people and how it can twist people who should know better (just look at the medical professionals who are Covid-19 deniers).
@@dennyo3992 right there with you, honorably discharged Navy Firefighter (Damage Controlman), and on every ship I served, the bells rang we rushed in!!! Be it a jet, helo, small arms or heavy weapons armory, main machinery room, fuel storage tanks, it didn't matter!!! Get on scene, assess the situation and move in! Overwhelm the subject and get them contained.
Talking about details means you can ignore the larger issue, because nobody wants to tackle the larger issue because it takes longer than 4 years. Wilful ignorance is complicity.
They fix problems piece meal because those problems make money and influence. With guns comes profits from selling manufacturing, policing and prisons It also creates the law and order candidates because crime creates fear which leads to votes. A candidate must be tough on crime even if you have to manufacture the crime
Yea but also we kinda need at least some major cover wrappings and a lot of pressure before another kid dies. Then we can begin to address underlying comorbities that led to a hole in their chest.
Something I’ve wondered is where are the parents? Most of these school shooters are barely 18, meaning what drove them to it happened while they were children. Finding out the current one had violent tendencies before hand and nothing was done. I don’t have the answers but I would feel I failed as a parent if my kid did something so horrible. It’s not just discipline it’s being aware of how your kid is feeling, what they are going through. These are big issues and it takes a lot more effort to fix than talking points.
@@Averagegunenthusiast Also, where are the lawmakers and the people who vote for the lawmakers? Other countries have restricted gun access and that has all but stopped mass shootings. That's not a talking point, but a fact. In other words, when will Americans make the obvious choice to give up their "right" to bear arms so that children and innocent adults can have a right not to be gunned down while going to school, church, work, movie, store, concert, night club, etc?
Respectfully, we need to recognize where we are. Figuratively, it is like telling a morbidly obese person that running a marathon will fix their problem; start by getting them off the couch instead. In our frustration, we have to avoid the trap of oversimplifying solutions. Focus on the policy that gives the biggest return first.
We shouldn't "do everything". There is such a thing as political capital and opportunity cost. Why waste time doing useless things when we can do useful things?
"600 years" doesn't even BEGIN to account for the ever-increasing availability of 3D-printed firearms parts. Also, if we're taking guns away from people who commit domestic violence, that includes at least 40% of cops, which sounds like heaven.
3D printed guns are media clickbait; People have been cobbling firearms out of random materials since the invention of firearms. There are cheaper, faster, more reliable, and SAFER ways to make a zipgun than using a 3D printer...
Done correctly, it’d clear the ranks of law enforcement of a lot of people who never should have been allowed on the job in the first place and prevent miscreants from being hired in the future🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@missano3856 While I agree there should be 1 age of majority, (either you are an adult, or you aren't) I would prefer that be 21. Another 3 years for the brain to develop would be good. Especially for males, who's brains don't reach full maturity until about 25. That would make a lot of difference. So 21 to vote, to be drafted, to enter contracts, to drink, to get married.
@@cobracommander9138 I know hunter safety requirements and concealed carry requirements exist but I've never heard of such a thing simply to have a gun.
@@missano3856 In California in order to buy a gun you have to pass a gun safety written test and then you have to physically demonstrate to certified clerk that you can safely load and unload the gun. In CA all gun transfers have to made through an FFL. Which are going to conduct the tests.
I was just thinking about the "good guy with a gun" pro-gun argument in relation to your last video on this topic. Your point in this video is an excellent response: Abusers are not good guys, with or without guns. Also, when the "good guys" stand outside and don't push their way in, I don't see how good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns.
All of those arguments also miss a crucial point. No 'good guy with a gun' can prevent casualties, either. The shooter is going to get the first shot, every time, and if that shot lands, someone is injured or killed. At that point the best thing the 'good guy with a gun' can do is end things with one more casualty. Minimum of two people shot. Mitigation, not a solution.
I agree with all of this in principle. The only thing I can't quite get behind is that the right-wing would get behind it in full force. Herschel Walker is there man, for instance, with a serious history of domestic abuse. I don't think they show much of a history of a lot of respect or concern for women. But other than that, yeah oh, definitely.
How does the military handle troops that engage in DV? (Serious question, I don't actually know this)... because the whole 2A thing is connected to states needing militias right? If a citizen has behaved in a way that would get them kicked out of the military, then I think there is a rationale there to restrict their gun rights.
@@DeronJ Red flag laws wouldn't have stopped this kid. He just turned 18, so unless he did something to get charged as an adult, his juvie record is sealed. Nothing shows up on background check.
@@brianmurman5845 When right-wing extremist learn not to ask stupid questions like "how do you define a woman?", then maybe you can lecture others on women, Mr. Murman. Probably not though.
What’s the point of the Patriot Act and police surveillance if things like this keep happening? Oh yeah it’s to defend the status quo, not to actually keep us safe.
well, the victims of the southern baptist convention pedos need to use RAINN for class action since the list came out yesterday, thats what victims advocates are saying, dont use guideposts list, revictimized, that was a literal warning from victims advocates i saw
Patriot Act. Militarized police. Gun control. All these things take power away from civilians and give it to the government under the guise of "public safety" or "national security".
Should an 18 year old kid be allowed to buy 2 assault weapons three days after his 18th birthday? Or should he have to have training and be qualified to operate the gun just like we do with cars?
Especially since many things that lead to adult disorders happen during childhood. You've got to give kids an environment to vent this stuff in, especially if the person causing them the most trauma is their parents.
I'll be frank, at this point, i'll try almost anything. Not obviously stupid ideas like giving guns to teachers, but I'm just so goddam tired of nothing at all happening.
A brit here, so no stake. I just cant explain my anger at this tho. As the news of this shooting came out, US politicians were coming out with their good guy with gun crap.. as the cops stood outside holding back parents.
@@TheScotsalan tbh as a gun owner with a concealed carry permit, the story about gun owners being there to protect everyone else is a fucking myth. Also if they cannot wear a mask during a pandemic then they obviously won't take a bullet for a child
Beau. As a foreign national living in the US, And a man who was brought up hunting. I find it appalling that that the gun owning men of this country continue to be so negligent in their role to change this from within! I know Congress has a huge part to play in legislation.. but as a a people, we each have a choice every day to do our own part!! I own several guns, which are stored in my home country.. my licence to use those tools has expired some time ago. BUT! If they were here with me today I wouldn't HESITATE to run them through a shredder!! I grew up to respect the hunt, the animals that we stalked.. a true hunter needs very little fire power to bring down a kill. The men of this country have had a choice for nearly 50 years to make a difference, and be the father's, protectors they need to be, to ensure a safe future for their families. It SICKENS me to see the sackless decisions made to justify this sickness!! Its an embarrassment to listen to men around me saying it's some sort of RIGHT!? Or NEED? To own these "TOYS" because that's how most here see them. Cowards.. WEAK men!
Love the shirt Beau. Been saying this since Columbine. Systemic inequality combined with the bully "might makes right" mentality of our society is how we are different than other nations. But it is part and parcel with our original sin of slavery. Also reinforced by our obsession with sports and making gym coaches principles of schools. So deeply ingrained that we do not even think about it. It drives conformity such that it others anyone different and sanctions bullying of those marginalized folks. If we had a more equal and inclusive society, this would not be an issue. But driving the division and scamming the working class of their fair share HAS BEEN EXTREMELY PROFITABLE FOR MANY. Those at the top. Those who think the golden rule reads as: Those with the gold make the rules. Greed and hatred are killing us. And those at the top do not care as they don't mingle with us any more. They have their gated communities and private armies.
The GOP hijacked the NRA in 1970 to get the mailing list and manipulated it into a platform plank and then created income disparity to reduce the political leverage of the Middle income people to stay in power after the GOP was embarrassed by their CROOK, Richard Nixon and this income disparity has now gotten its just deserts, a polarized, ignorant populace that votes for shills, grifters and con artists thinking this will drain the swamp that the GOP has maintained since 1972. Quit voting for REPUBLICANS !
Re: Our obsession with sports, gym coaches as principals: One of the wrestling coaches at my high school was the nicest fill-in woodshop teacher I ever had. The guy before him -- who lost his job because he sexually harassed a student, is the rumor -- was this Type-A asshole for whom it was all about project completion, individual results, regardless of who gets left behind. I was failing that class, because I wouldn't butt in to take my turn with the limited availability radial arm saw, planer, bandsaw, etc -- because I didn't want to deprive others (we really just did NOT have enough tools), so I would mostly help others. He gave me a speech, two or three times, in fact, about me, as a senior, needing to be an example to the freshmen, a leader. When the wrestling coach took over the class for the next semester, though, I don't know what it was, but I guess he just happened to notice me helping others here and there, so I passed with an A even though all I made was some rickety little stool. (And my folks love that thing nonetheless, because I made it.) I don't mean to post to argue, so much as to warn. You can find the best, most humane values taught by those you may see as the unlikeliest of people. Not all gym bros are toxic. Some of them train in a spirit of mutual endeavor, recognizing that everyone is on their own path, doing the best they can with the body they have, rather than trying to maintain a hierarchy of swoleness. Obviously, there's enough toxicity that it gives us pause, but we need to maintain open minds and hearts so that we can meet our allies instead of passing them by without a word exchanged. Now, when the football coach was put in for a whole semester of the psychology class, that wasn't great, from an educational standpoint. He wasn't toxic, but he was not equipped to teach the material. But then, in 101 level stuff, the textbook can be leaned on pretty heavily. We do need more educational resources. We do need to stop socially promoting kids who are failing, but need to pass so they can stay on the team. Just be careful you don't always assume the athletics folks are all bad, that's all.
Columbine school, as I understand from those involved with the school, has still not done anything about the bullying, which was a major part of that attack.
@@Smilley85 Abbott backed out of his appearance at the NRA conference today (Friday, 5/27/2022), but most likely because of the optics that Beto shoved in his face, not because of his own (lack of) beliefs or morals.
Jon Stewart has brought this exact point up as well. An excellent place to start...and if applied right, the responsible gun owners remaining will have no issues living alongside other responsible gun owners. Thanks again Beau.
THIS EXACTLY!! All I want is law that does SOMETHING about people who shouldn't have guns! Not this feel good bull sh!t limiting how long a rifle is, or mag size. Pass laws that effects people, not inanimate objects.
Only issue is that people may be fine when they buy a gun, and then not be. Some people are also very good at masking who they really are and their real intentions. As Beau said in a previous video, people in the US treat guns as status symbols, not the tools they are. And no one in civilian life needs the kind of weapons being used in these shootings (semi-automatics). Australia is way safer and so is New Zealand after following Australia's approach from 1996.
@@Verity2true Confiscation is a non-starter. Even if it were logistically feasible, it'll never get through Congress, let alone past the current SCOTUS. So better to focus on things that actually can be done. The fact that the people who do these things have tend to have a history means we can target them. We can raise awareness so that people who absolutely should not have guns cannot get them so easily, and those that aid them in obtaining them can also be held accountable.
I would love for someone to explain to me why you need to take a hunter's safety course to prove you're responsible when hunting and to not harm other hunters but you don't have to take a safety course to buy a gun.
A city in CA recently held a buy-back for a $50 gas card. They had to stop early due to the overwhelming response. I call that a practical solution. This will eventually happen more and more often.
What was the quality of the guns and how were they acquired? For all we know those guns were stolen. I'm not turning in a $500 firearm for a $50 gas card.
my grandparents have guns dated back to the 1800s, handed down to their family my grandfather was a marksman instructor for the military following service in the korean war. and he has spent his life fishing/hunting game all across the US until recent years. he probably had close to a thousand rifles, shotguns, and handguns at some point neither him, my great-grandpa, or anyone they know, treat guns the way they are fetishized today america today has a gun-culture problem
@denise starr it may be a lot, but it was also part of his profession to handle guns. he didn't collect them for the purpose of collection (i should add he's sold most of it now that he is not as mobile) you could argue he had a hunting fetish though. unlike guns he did display a lot of taxidermy, furs and antlers
While I understand your trepidation, that's demonstrably false. But even worse, it's exactly this sort of myopic thinking that causes people to be apathetic, witch in turn makes it a _self-fulfilling prophecy._ Slava Ukraine!
I’m sure all this in reference to DV is correct and the receipts are relatively easy to find. But how does it relate to the fact that in school mass shooting events, with 146 people killed and at least 182 victims injured, the average age of those involved in carrying out the attacks was 18? Are the DV records going to reflect their histories and propensity to carry out these attacks?
Yeah, I wonder how long it would take to ensure people under 25 couldn't use guns unsupervised & couldn't own without a license? (I say 25 because the (male) brain takes until age 25 to fully mature in decision-making & other high funtion faculties. Under 21 would be a good start. And lifting the age to 21 to buy weapons immediately, like alcohol, would stop more young people acquiring them.)
If the average age of K-12 school shooters is 18, that means that some are younger, and therefore were not using firearms that they personally purchased through the legal route. Regarding shooters who are 18 or slightly over, I do wonder how juvenile records are handled now, and whether that could be better. If somebody is violent toward animals or people at 16-17, those specific juvenile records should be reflected in background checks when they're 18, and a cursory search suggests this isn't the case in all states.
With this school shooter, he threatened to rape a girl who rebuffed him. So, yeah, let’s look at threats, stalking, and abuse towards girls and women. Look at those who are radicalized incels.
Was the Uvalde killer ever reported for domestic violence or animal torture? Wouldn’t you also want to combine raising the purchase/possession age of rifles (or any kind) to 21 with this?
@@BeauoftheFifthColumn At some point...I hate to say it...but you may need to run for office. You've tossed that idea around that right? I'm almost certain you hate the idea. You could easily raise enough to campaign for a House seat. As George Carlin said: "Where are all the good upstanding citizens to run for office? This is the best we can do. Garbage in, garbage out." Good people need to run if we want to change things. And only sociopaths seem to want to run in 90% of these districts.
To all the people here mentioning mental health - that only helps when you admit there might be a problem that needs fixing. The only time you can FORCE someone into mental health services is when they've already proven a danger to themselves or someone else. By that time, a new event has already happened. Even if mental health services were available for free tomorrow you have 2 monumental barriers in front of you - 1) there simply aren't enough people licensed to provide services to meet current demand, much less even a 50% increase over current demand, and 2) the stigma around searching out mental health services. Hell our country can't get its head wrapped around the idea that not every woman wants to (or can, or should [health-wise]) bear children and you want them to admit they might need help with sorting themselves out? I've got some bridge real estate for you. Beau is correct. Until the culture around mental health and/or guns are corrected, the only way is to legislate correlative behavior as a limiting factor.
The enemy of good is perfect. Let this be the first step, if it works at all then great, if it doesn't you keep adding more... Plus if it does work you gain momentum and people may be willing to have more measures.
Those convicted of domestic abuse need to have their behaviour challenged and given the tools to behave better. IT should be mandatory in the UK and the US but it is not. Nobody wants to pay for it.
@@Redkite-nd8gc In the US they can court order anger management therapy as part of a domestic violence conviction, but that has very mixed results and is highly dependent on the patient buying into the therapy, plus requires that something bad has already taken place. Same goes for substance abuse counseling.
well, the victims of the southern baptist convention pedos need to use RAINN for class action since the list came out yesterday, thats what victims advocates are saying, dont use guideposts list, revictimized, that was a literal warning from victims advocates i saw, we need to stop them before repressed memories surface so they dont blow up churches and shit, too? i hope they just sue
We also need to change the background check loopholes because without the need for a background check pointing out the wifebeaters isn't going to help if they can just buy a gun at a show or from a private seller without a background check
I have heard "that will never happen.. " about seat belts. About public smoking. About a non white president. About legalization of marijuana. About affordable healthcare. About gay marriage and adoption. You are spot on about organizing to change this society.. I am listing these because in each case a cultural/political/society change.. hard as it is.. is possible. It might even take another hundred years, like women's voting rights.. but it is the persistence that makes it happen.
I have to disagree on this one. First a caveat: I know getting guns off the streets (buybacks/bans) would not be 100% effective, but neither would banning abusers alone from gun ownership. The idea of 1 gun a minute for something like 600 years is really slow walking the process. Sacramento did a buyback and received 134 guns in 45 minutes. The didn't receive more because they ran out of the gift cards they were exchanging for the guns.. That is about 3 guns per minute. If every city of over 100,000 people started a single location for a buy back program that would be about 325 cities in the US. That is about 675 guns per minute. That would clear the US civilian possessed firearms down to 0 in about 3.5 years if you only worked at it 8 hours per day. (Maths: According to wikipedia there are 393,347,000 civilian guns in the US: guns/675 Guns per Minute / 60 minutes / 8 hours / 365 days Would they get EVERY gun in the country? Of course not. But it would reduce the numbers. Couple this with regulation (such as banning abusers, banning assault weapons, strong licensing requirements for buyers, sellers, owners), and America could become as safe as any other nation.
I agree - it's not a problem of proportions or methods, it's a lack of political will. Once there is a will, there will be a way. Another point of criticism to Beau's approach: It tries to rationalize the problem, by making the argument that offenders shouldn't own firearms - which I consider correct in itself. But it will not convice in a highly emotional debate, where one side basically considers gun ownership a god-given right.
This! Too many guns are problem #1. Other regulations, social services, mental health, universal healthcare etc. matter also. Each step taken gets us closer to sanity. Gun safety is NOT where America is great. Again.
Agree with you. We do still need to focus on mental health issues, but I think monitoring that sensibly would be nearly impossible. A buyback plan worked for other countries. Proving, yet again, most of these politicians prefer keeping things as they are, with their pockets well greased, rather than letting us all safe.
beau, you're points are well taken, and your reasoning and recommendations for legislation are sound, but ... we also have to get guns of the street and find some measure of accountability for manufacturers (remember the ford pinto? i am a strong proponent of regulating guns like we do cars). the fact is (the numbers don't lie), is that the more guns there are in a population, ther more gun violence there will be. full stop. i do like your quick fix for now idea though.
Mandatory gun insurance for all gun owners--just like automobiles. The insurance companies, tired of paying off the victims, will raise hell and laws will be passed.
Further, the premiums for nutcases and domestic abusers will become so high that they couldn't afford ownership. Why would a LAW ABBIDING citizen be against it?
Most of the time when a woman calls the police for a DV issue she will be told she’s getting arrested also if she swung back. She won’t want her kids to go through CPS so she drops it. And it is reinforced that she is trapped. Cops actually help the abusers keep them in line and scared to get out. Protect and serve my ass!
I was thinking that the number of filed DV reports would mysteriously go way, way down (not that reports are filed enough as it is). Wouldn't want the guy to lose his guns now, would we.
Or even worse, they won't call the cops at all or they risk losing their home. Many cities penalize landlords who have excessive calls to the home (maybe just 2x) and the landlord will kick tenants out for calling the police for help. It's vicious.
I've had my gun rights taken away because someone lied and accused me of domestic violence but I've never laid a hand on or threatened anybody in my life. Because I can't afford an attorney I was forced to give up my hunting weapons forever. I could easily obtain any kind of weapon I wanted but I don't feel the need to go through the hassle or risk getting caught for having any. I'll just stick to fishing.
That's my concern about a red flag law. I know several men who were falsely reported in the middle of custody cases. I also know women falsely reported for child neglect because their neighbor/ former friend/ex-husband wanted to cause them trouble. I really don't know the answer here, but I do believe that economic inequality is a big contributor. Whenever unemployment, etc., goes up, so do all the bad things: domestic violence, robbery, murders, rape, and spree killings. Desperation breeds violence.
yeah but for every one of you guys there's a hundred who do, i agree with beau...and the victims of the southern baptist convention pedos need to use RAINN for class action since the list came out yesterday, thats what victims advocates are saying, dont use guideposts list, revictimized, that was a literal warning from victims advocates i saw, we need to stop those girls before repressed memories surface so they dont blow up churches and shit, too? i hope they just sue
@@retriever19golden55 My main concern about red flag laws is that it deliberately violates not just the Second Amendment but also the Fourth, Fifth, Fourteenth Amendments and undercuts the entire philosophy of "innocent until proven guilty" that our entire justice system is based on.
Love the shirt! Screw a ban, it is pointless. How about changing who and how they obtain them? Seems logical. . . Good video as always, stay you and stay safe.
Yeah, that's what gun control is actually about. I think the nay sayers would then reply that there's then the "slippery slope" that would supposedly lead to "them taking away our guns," which is literally the slippery slope fallacy.
@@jarls5890 Cost won't do much to deter this kind of attacker-- someone who's going to run around killing kids probably isn't expecting to live through it, or at least not expecting to get out without a *long* prison sentence, so their finances aren't likely to be a priority.
@@jarls5890 Real nice... that. Only Elites (who rule this country anyway) could afford to defend themselves... the poor, like always, have to take the violence, cruelty, and abuse with a smile and a "thank you!" Get real.
Not pointless, necessary. You'll always have a problem unless you can significantly reduce the amount of weapons in circulation, and the overflow is endangering people in Canada where I live, so please, please, please, reduce the number.
@@magnanimus9692 You have a responsibility to avoid injuring other people while excising your rights. That is why I find anti-vax/anti-mask protests silly and best, genocide at worst. When you live in a society a lot of what you do affects others.
@@jamesphillips2285 Um, sure, I get the spirit of what you are saying, but I would rephrase it by stating 'you are entitled to your rights in as far as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others'.
When Australia did buybacks for assault weapons in exchange for $50 gas cards, they got 1,000,000 guns and ran out of cards. Buybacks have been successful in some states too. Florida tightened background checks and enacted red flag laws due to pressure from Parkland protests. Those red flag laws stopped 6,000 disturbed individuals from owning guns and God knows how many homicides. Shouldn’t we try things that have worked Beau? Shouldn't we try everything possible to save our kids?
He offered a good solution that is actually viable in our lifetimes. The United States is very unique with its gun culture. Stop comparing us to other countries please. I wish we were like them but we're not.
Australia has more guns now than they did before the buyback. The only appreciable difference in deaths was a drop in successful suicides. Besides, no one who intends evil will participate in a buyback. Preventing theft by encouraging secure storage, universal background checks and other measures Beau has suggested in previous videos would accomplish more and not make criminals of peaceful people.
So places in the US have had buybacks that have varying degrees of success. The problem is a lot of the firearms that are turned in are often recently stolen, like stolen specifically to be turned in. Also the aus buyback was mandatory, which wouldn't fly with our current shit show SCOTUS, and even if it did the people that really need to not own guns are the same that couldn't be bothered to wear a mask during a pandemic so they aren't likely to willingly participate. I do agree with the red flag laws though. Here in Virginia such laws were passed as well, but they are super recent so idk the data on the effect. The problem is the GOP went full tilt crazy trying to stop them, which would likely be emulated on the federal level. Overall beau isn't saying his idea is the only way to resolve the problem. He is saying its a policy that actually stands a chance of making onto the presidents desk.
I am not a gun guy. I grew up with guns. (I'm an older Canadian). I absolutely agree with what you are saying. It is however a part of the solution. Another part can be removal, there can be licensing, background checks ect, ect ect. Multiple things can be done at the same time. I understand there is a fundamental difference in the way Americans view guns vs. Most of the rest of the world. As a dad and a grandfather I would like to see every method possible used, to try and prevent something like what is becoming common place in your country. It's effing heart breaking. I'm obviously not an intellect, but I do have a heart. Hope my neighbors to the south can sort this out sooner than later.
Neither the Buffalo shooter nor the Uvalde shooter were criminals until the day they used legally purchased guns to commit mass murder--so Beau's argument is not entirely valid. As you say, it is a partial solution.
I think we're all in agreement that everything that can be reasonably done should be done, but look at the politics: gun thing happens, Dems push anti-gun theater, Reps rally well trained gun rights activists who will vote NO on any gun issue, nothing happens. Consider then, a different group pushes DV restrictions, no one likes a wife beater (I know its a broader category but follow me) and things can get done.
May I add another suggestion in the same vein? Whenever a crime involving a gun gets committed by somebody listed as not supposed to have a gun, we need to prosecute, as an accessory to the crime, whoever sold or gave him that gun. Having a list of people barred from gun ownership will do no good if gun dealers have financial incentive to ignore such lists. There are women serving life in prison as accessories to murder just because their boyfriends ran to them and said, "Hide me!" without explanation, and they did. Accessory to a crime is a very serious matter. Bust one or two gun dealers this way and the rest will get in line like boyscouts, diligently checking those lists.
Sadly, I think that the age of 'sanity' is somewhere after 40. In the USA, it may even be later. Make the age of gun ownership over 40 and that, alone, would reduce the mayhem. Why? Because young men are testosterone crazy.
@@j.davidcox3783 Then my mother would not have been able to defend herself when a jack-ass crackhead kicked our door in. Raising the age to 40 wouldn't have stopped the Vegas Shooter either.
That’s idiotic. If I can get drafted into military at 18 to handle (Actual) military grade weapons to fight a war to possibly die in. Why can’t people have the right to use regular civilian level firearms?
@@bonda_racing3579 Because civilian level firearms are nearly military grade. Maybe muzzle loaders or having a timer between shots built into the gun. (Round every minute?)
I'd like to point out the UK's approach to giving out gun licences. To get this out of the way, loads of firearms are full out banned due to mass murderer events particularly on school children which brought the ban on all hand guns & sub machine guns. However for all shot guns, rifles both non auto & semi auto there is a incredibly thorough background, medical & criminal check. Extremely tight. Firearms deaths have plummeted since the early 90s. However the dark side is 'suicide' or more correctly 'auto euthanasia' by firearms is highest amongst farmers, since they're the most like to own a shotgun or rifle.
@@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas It was a hell of of a lot different before the early 90s, I'm old enough to remember unfortunately. Granted there were not the modern semi auto assault rifles or sub machine guns back then in the 80's but the ones that existed could still easily massacre large amounts of people. Australia & New Zealand are both famous cases of the same change in attitude to gun licensing.
@@satyr1349 Look up the Mini 14. That was around back in the 80s and a semi auto rifle that fires the .223 round. And neither of those two countries had the same level of gun ownership as the US. So, they had an easier time buying back those guns. And won't cost the Nation as much it would cost the US to buy back guns nor did it take that long of time. Which Beau covered how long it would take. That is just counting if everyone willingly gave up their guns..... Seems like you did not watch video.... Australia and New Zealand does not count self defense as justifiable reason to own a fire arm.... That would not fly in the US.
@@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas With Beau's absurd logic the highly successful banning and confiscation of high-capacity semi-auto firearms in Australia would have taken several years to complete, but it didn't.....
@@organican No it would not for every 100 people in the US their are 120 guns. There are 326 million people in the US. with more than one gun than per person. Australia nor New Zealand had that kind of firearm to people ratio. I mean New South Wales had hand gun ban post WW2.
I have a neighbor convicted of harassment with intent to terrorize. It’s a felony though he got literally a slap on the hand for it. He’s got guns!!! Allegedly felons are not allowed to have guns?!? He shoots at animals right next door to me. And he’s been intimidating me for a very long time. It seems no one said “ your free to go, next turn in your guns.” This idea sounds good but someone has to follow up?! And I remember years ago the cops all complained about being “out gunned” by criminals. Where the heck are they on the ease of anyone including kids buying guns, especially assault weapons?? If anyone has skin in the game, you’d think it would be them? 😡
I was just thinking this. Remember the days of the tough as nails cop shows where they are racing the clock to get the guns off the streets in order to save the disadvantaged but gifted youth from succumbing to gang violence? It was a whole meme. The NRA has so twisted our gun culture. It’s terrifying.
Here's my wish list: 1. Close all the red flag law loopholes and expand it to include animal cruelty charges as well. 2. Raise the age to own all guns to 21. 3. Universal background checks required for any gun purchase. Close the private seller and gun show loopholes, as well as the Charleston loophole. 4. To make ghost guns more difficult to obtain, require that all gun parts have identifiable serial numbers and only can be sold through licensed gun dealers (no direct mail online sales). Required dealers to confirm that you're a licensed gun owner / record the sale before selling any parts to you. 5. To own a gun in the US, you need to be issued a federal gun owner license and complete required safety training. To get a carry license, you need to have a higher level license and more extensive training. Current gun owners would have a window of 3 years to comply. Allocate money to set up a division under the ATF to provide this training for free nationwide. This would take away the ability of yahoo NRA governors like Greg Abbott to pass laws like he just did. 6. Make civilian ownership of body armor illegal so these maniacs aren't able to stand toe to toe with police returning fire. Have an amnesty and buyback program, ship it over to the Ukraine, make available to US military service members abroad and law enforcement if suitable. There's no second amendment right to this gear and you'd have fewer people on Facebook LARPing that they're Rambo. They won't look as tough without the plate carrier holding in that gut. 7. Give every newly federally licensed gun owner a voucher that can be put towards buying a gun safe. 8. Create a federal reckless endangerment statute - you get charged if your gun is used by someone else and they were able to get their hands on it because it wasn't in a gun safe or reported stolen. 9. Make it a felony for anyone but on duty law enforcement to bring a gun into a school, government building, or place of worship, even if they're licensed to public carry. 10. Create a federal registry of all firearms in the US and place a hefty IRS excise tax on the value of any guns an individual owns beyond six per person. If you need more than six guns you're compensating for something. You can still have your personal carry handgun, hunting rifle, shotgun, AR-15, and a couple of extras for fun or to take the kids hunting. If you have a lot of kids under 21 and like to hunt, get the wife trained and registered, and she can get six more guns tax-free too. Poor people who want to own a gun wouldn't be penalized. Use the tax money to fund the free training, gun safes, federal registry record keeping, and gun buyback programs. This would also bite into the gun industry profits and the funds they use to keep politicians in their pocket, so it might be easier to get common sense gun legislation enacted. It's a lot and I know it would never get through the Senate unless they get rid of the filibuster, but I'd be fine with all of these changes and I think most Americans would be as well. None of these laws would really impact the majority of responsible gun owners adversely either and should hopefully be able to withstand second amendment legal challenges.
Alots of issue with your wish list. Raising ownership to 21 is a very large betrayal to those that sign up for service in the military or even those that might get drafted into the military at 18. To use actual military level firearms while back home their completely prohibited from using civilian firearms? Doesn’t sound right. Lastly the idea of gun licenses turns the second amendment into a privilege rather than a constitutional right. My other concerns is expanding the ATF’s powers when they have a clear history raiding innocent peoples homes and shooting their dogs in the process. It’s common enough people in the gun community make jokes about it. Among others I understand am not gonna change your mind. But if you want try going into the gun community to understand why they fight against these laws. You be surprised at how many even dislike the NRA.
Almost went with it, but Body Armor iis questionable. It literally saved a Pizzaman's life and the shooter didn't even bother to actually use the plates.
@@bonda_racing3579 A couple of rebuttals to some of your points: 1. The military places some pretty stringent rules on where and when active duty personnel are allowed to be carrying a firearm while on base too, so don't pretend active duty personnel are walking around strapped 24/7. Also, when service men who are under 21 go off base in the US to go on leave, can they go to a bar and legally order a beer? No. Same logic applies. 2. Because it is a Constitutional right, requiring people to register is out of order? You mean like voting? 3. It doesn't have to be the ATF that runs the training, but it does need to be a federal agency if it is a federal program. Since the ATF is the one with 'firearms' actually in their name, that's who would probably be tasked with overseeing a gun related program too. As long as the training policy comes in, though, create a whole new agency and name it after Annie Oakley if you like.
@@dansacco7907 They still receive training and allowed use of military firearms. When their barred from civilian use. Licensing isn’t the same as registry. A License implies that’s much more privilege than a right allowing the government free range to strip you from it. I just don’t the state to be given such power and handle it responsible. Either way my wish list Is to see a universal health program where mental illness are included for people to bring their own in if need be. Along with better security in schools by starting re-evaluating police training in handling these situations to avoid the complete failure of dipshits “securing the perimeter” will they let evil run free in a school. Sorry for any typos it’s quite early and waking up
@@bonda_racing3579 it's not an either / or solution. I'm all for better mental health coverage and better training of police for responding to these situations so this never happens like this again. But there are plenty of other things that can be done too to make it harder for this to happen that still won't affect law abiding people's ability to own guns conveniently and responsibly in any significant way. Anyone who enlists right out of high school and completes their 4 year hitch will be 21 by the time they get out and they'll be well trained in gun safety which is a great thing. While they're serving, they will either be deployed or on base most of the time, so the amount of time where this is a limiting factor on how they live their life is pretty minimal. Also, the age for owning a handgun is already 21, so this isn't really a new restriction, just using the same logic across the board. For anyone discharged from the military for a non-medical/physical injury reason before age 21, I'm not sure I'd want a lot of them owning a gun either. We just had two 18 year olds buy long guns and kill a whole bunch of people in the last week, not to mention Columbine, Aurora, Parkland, Sandy Hook, and the Tree of Life synagogue shooters were all under 21 I believe. If it inconveniences service members under 21 on leave a little bit that they can't own a gun themselves, I'm okay with that trade off. They can still go hunting with their dad's gun while they're home for Thanksgiving leave, they just can't own it. Your semantics distinction between registration and licensing is really a distinction without a difference. Right now, gun owners need to get permits to own in most places. Hunters need to get hunting licenses. No matter how you slice it or define it, it is still a governmental authority issuing you a document saying you're allowed to own the gun and how you can use it.
With a combined approach, and by that I mean doing things like common sense gun laws, restrictions similar to the 90s ban, the red flag idea, targeting violent people such as Beau suggested, I think we would see huge changes and drastic drops in mass shootings. I also think with a multifaceted approach it wouldn't take centuries to get a lot of the guns out of circulation. And you wouldn't need to get all of them either. Back in the 90s, nobody was selling their banned guns. And the few that did were bought up by hoarders who wouldn't let them go. We can look at the rest of the world and see that banning guns, improvement in gun laws, etc... works. Definitely it would be much harder here because of the sheer number of guns and the culture itself. But 50% of all the guns are owned by 3% of the population. It's not impossible. I agree, it's logistically incredibly difficult, but not impossible if that's the direction it went. Even background checks would help. Bottom line, it's time to stand up to the gun lobby and stop letting them make the decisions rather than the people.
For how much noise certain people make about how "it's a mental health issue" and "we need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill" there's conspicuously little action to accomplish that from those people making the noise. Lots of attempts at action from others who want something done, but not from those so enamored of their empty words. Flooding the zone with " good guys with guns" doesn't keep guns out of the hands of felons, of the mentally ill, or, as Beau pointed out, of abusers
Finally! We have all been preaching this for years! Go look at Beau’s old videos. Let’s actually get these 2 parties together for ONCE! This is the paradigm shift. Hit it NOW! Write your representatives!
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Beau, banning people that cause DV is great. The problem is, if you don't try to get rid of the military weapons, then they will get one either on the black market or from someone in a private sale. To simply say that there are too many of them to try is a major cop-out. The AR15 is the most popular rifle due to marketing. And Daniel Defense posting an ad showing a baby holding one of their rifles just sealed their fate in a lawsuit. The stupidity of the gun makers and their greed also created this problem.
You can never prevent any type of gun from existing, gun smithing exist. It's about meaningfully impacting their access by mass shooters/murderers. Meaningful doesn't mean 100% of the cases. And military weapons aren't more deadly then other weapons. Fun fact, most military weapons started as civilian and police weapons that then got adopted by the military. In fact the new rifle the military is adopting is already for sale on the civilian market before it was even adopted. Military quality actually tends to be cheap and subpar. The AR15 is indeed popular because of marketing, but not just because. It's also popular because it's ergonomical, cheap through mass production and because of it's widespread use there's a lot of support for it e.g. accessories you'd like. It's just straight up a good product, like an iPhone. The iPhone isn't *just* popular because of marketing. It's a solid product with a solid ecosystem. Banning the AR15 is meaningless symbolism. Beau rightfully points out closing loopholes and going after DV is by far the most effective way to do this. That isn't just his opinion but the opinion of medical professionals. www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aar3067 AR15's are perfectly legal in places like Switzerland without leading to mass shootings. Individual characteristics of guns isn't the issue, it's access and the prevalence of loopholes.
Domestic violence is under reported. Improving the way it is handled so it is safer to report would help. Making sure resources and counseling are available for victims whether man or woman would help. While it is better then it was, more needs done.
The behavioral marker about abusing animals is also the sign of a serial killer so that track. The domestic violence trait would also disqualify a lot of law enforcement from having guns. As Beau said, this issue is so deeply rooted in America that people would have to admit to many other problems to address this.
maybe those officers need disqualified and that may solve some other systemic issues!
@@donanders2110 yes and: ... once all the asshole, DV perp, cops are fired we can give the rest of them raises to take some strain off their marriages.
Maybe police that have domestic abuse in their history shouldn't be police officers either 🤔 🤷
Every farmer on factory farms abuses animals as part of their job! Yes-cows and pigs and chickens are animals too, not just cats and dogs. Animal rights activists have been telling you guys about how being cruel to animals dehumanizes human beings as well, for decades. But nobody wants to give up your conveniences. And I bet everybody ignores this comment like they always do
Yeah the trailer park folks didn't fix their cats. My buddy took care of em at a young age. He's facing 5 years for asslut right now. But man has he done some sick stuff. And good parenting is needed so kids can learn to think.
GOP: "It's not about guns, it's a mental health issue!"
Everyone else: "So let's fund mental healthcare."
GOP: "No."
The USA doesn't have more mental health issues than any other developed nation. However, all the other countries have strick gun laws. Ain't that difficult to work it out ...
When Ted Cruz said let's go after the severely mentally ill I just saw Hitler throwing the developmentally disabled into concentration camps
Exactly. The true Conservative answer to mental health is to get us out of the way.
@@erincaitlin1655 Not the point I'm making. Republicans say it's mental health (which is a half truth), but then they won't do anything to fix what they claim is the true problem.
The GOP is the party of social Darwinism, so this tracks
So the good guys with the guns stood outside for an hour while the children were terrorized and slaughtered?!!
Yep
Fourth!! 🎈👋🏾🙂🌙
It was absolutely horrifying how many officers were there
Unfortunately yes
Because they aren't heroes, they're Fascism enablers.
It’s very curious how whenever there’s talk of keeping guns out of the hands of people who do domestic violence, cops are always quick to oppose it.
WELL Let's think through the operational side ... Who is going to go in and remove the guns? And who is going to get killed trying to do that? And how can anyone know that they have found all the guns?
@@richardgreen7225 It’d have to be about prohibiting sales to individuals convicted of DV. Which doesn’t actually remove any weapons that they already possessed.
Richard Greene this is something where I believe that Beau is pretty well on point ; confiscating them all is pretty thoroughly impractical. But there could be some measure of confiscations ; depending on the circumstances and regulatory rules should be put into place to try to better manage the disposition of firearms in the future . The journey of a 1000 miles begins with a single step.
Because they would have to be the ones to enforce it. Its not to protect their own right to own guns as domestic abusers, its because they don't want to kick down doors and takes guns away, some perhaps from some ideological perspective of not liking authoritarianism, but mostly just because they don't want to get shot and get PTSD.
They confiscate guns from criminals facing or convicted of other charges. To say they are afraid of doing it for DV when they routinely take them from others is ridiculous.
You use DV as a barrier to having firearms and you're gonna need a WHOLE LOT of new cops. That's a good thing.
Yes. Hopefully their DV actually got reported though. No history if you make them stay quiet...
So it's not the bayonet lugs?
@@autumnshinespark Men who are victims are going to stay quiet. My dad never said a word, my mom loved her gun and he liked breathing. A friend did make a report and his girlfriend counter charged so his hunting rifle was taken away because everyone knows the man is always the DV perp. They finally did get her when she violated HIPPAA laws to find his new girlfriend's location so she could stalk and threaten her too.
Not really, if you actually read the study and do more research, you'll find that the average civilian is 185.47x more likely to commit an offense above a class B misdemeanor than the average officer
@@antman6707 insect strikes again.....and fails......again
In high school we studied the Aztecs and felt so proud of ourselves that we didn't practice human sacrifice like they did.
The Aztecs did it for the health and prosperity of the people. Modern Americans do it for bragging rights.
It's so much easier now
Amen to that, Tom. Kids are expendable once they exit the womb. What the Hell, eh? You can always make another one - especially when birth control and abortions are outlawed with no exceptions for rape or incest. Just keep them wimmen preggers.
@@clayoreilly4553 Unborn children aren't "tainted with original sin" as a newborn baby is. THAT'S why the christians love them so much.
Capital punishment still exists, tho.
I think there’s 3 issues with this VERY sensible approach you laid out:
1) A lot of women don’t report domestic violence incidents because they don’t get believed or taken seriously. So guys will slip through the cracks that way
2) Many of the women that DO actually report on it still don’t get believed so it never goes on the record of the men committing the acts of violence
3) This category of men contains a lot of law enforcement officers. So the powerful Police Unions won’t allow this legislation to be passed.
And a lot of women in a relationship with a police officer would report DV if it automatically would end her husband's career which would
effect the woman's own bottom line (Home mortage,car payments,the kid's college fund,retirement plans that involve savings and a cop's
pension.
Another group of people that nobody talks about are Lesbian women who make up a sizable amount of the female police staff and who
have a history of domestic violence in their relationships as well.
Yup.
@@TheLAGopher True, true. Just out of curiosity, how many of them have then proceeded perform a mass shooting?
In my former home town
a woman cop married a cop who was a known abuser/DV - his previous wives all reported his abuse to no avail.
She did not report the abuse until AFTER they were divorced. He got in hot water at work for insubordination but
never in trouble at his job for any DV issues.
issues.
@@toddthreess9624 They would just say "the second amendment is absolute and cannot be debated" conservatives would eat that shit up, as stupid as it is
Stalking, Animal Abuse, Domestic Violence. All huge indicators of future violence. These are good places to start. National waiting period wouldn't bug me and I love guns.
Steve, a national ban on ANY semi-automatic rifle with a capacity greater than 5 rounds, the magazine of any semi- automatic rifle must be non-removable, federal background checks, 3-5 day after purchase waiting period. I also like my guns but if effective control doesn’t happen we’re going to lose them.
The Buffalo shooter murdered and decapitated a cat in March. This is a really important point that you are making, Beau, thank you.
How are you going to get him help if he doesn't want it.. He still had the gun...gun reform now
@@hellohellohellohowlow5901 You realize that involuntary admittance is a thing, right? Did you even do the one goddamn thing Beau asked of you, to watch the whole video?
I'm a Swedish gunowner. Before getting my license, there's obviously a background check done. But more importantly, once I've gotten my guns, there's a daily automated check against my criminal record and if anything major, such as domestic violence or cruelty against animals, pops up the police will be at my door to confiscate my guns. Heck, even a series of speeding tickets, unless I have a really good explanation can result in me losing my guns, because it shows a history of disregard for rules and regulations.
In the gun violence that does exist in Sweden, over 99.5% is committed with guns that were never once legally licensed in the country. It's all smuggled guns and home-made guns. We have not had a single mass shooting by a person with their own legally licensed and owned firearm. In the one serial-killer case we've had that used a legally licensed firearm, it was one of the rare exceptions where the police did not act despite this person being reported by his own gun club.
Our system isn't perfect, but it works.
The problem with the U.S. is that we want one solution that works perfectly 100% of the time. Anything less than perfection is seen as useless. Gee, if we could solve 50% of the solution while working on the other 50%, wouldn't that mean we are making progress? We are a nation ruled (I can't call it governed) by people that can't think critically, don't understand logic, and are only interested in their own political power. And we are populated by enough morons that these kinds of politicians get voted into office.
@Bryan Kirby ... and those US saviours of Sweden will obviously be those hootin' tootin' hillbillies with their private assault rifle collections, shipped off abroad right after they're done with the next elementary school in line - right ?
Man, it would be inappropriate to tell you in what orifice you got your head stuck, but you'll get the idea.
@Bryan Kirby Gun culture, worship of gangsters, con men, and the sacrosanction of the 2nd amendment are all currently American. But we are, fortunately, more than that as Americans. There is a huge majority that want nothing to do with any of that. As Americans we have this in common with other countries. What has happened is the minority takeover of our culture, laws.
@Bryan Kirby Nice try. Yes, Americans with vast amounts of training, levels of responsibility and accountability can be called up to protect other NATO countries..in addition to the other 30 member states who have highly trained military but whose private citizens don’t have the ability to own military style weaponry or for some reason don’t feel the need to shoot mass volumes of the population. Regardless, all military personnel are vetted for suitability for the corps. Sounds like you wouldn’t pass the test. On top of that, all military personnel are trained for the proper use of tactical combat and weapons appropriate to the situation. On the contrary, there is no training much less little to no vetting required for a private individual to be able to buy a weapon legally in the US. Of course it is true that training by itself is not the only key to responsible ownership, in fact without vetting, the training is almost moot.
As in the military, you must be vetted to be able to use a firearm for combat. But not for private gun ownership. You nor your buddy next door will not be called up for duty because you own a gun as that in no way shows suitability for even credibility to serve. Do you see the difference? Your ability to shoot up a school, mall or your workplace, take a hostage at gunpoint or threaten your spouse with a gun in no way makes you a viable candidate for military service. But it does make you a high risk to the public without a vetting process and that’s where the responsible gun owner should have no problem with age limits, background checks and in-depth and ongoing vetting. This may save you, your children or your spouse. Coz as we’ve seen with Uvalde, the police were on scene and delayed interaction with the shooter and he still gained entry to the school. The police did not engage with the shooter despite the fact they had guns. It has now come to light and there is video footage of police taking cover (aka “hiding”) because they were received fire. So what about their guns? Why didn’t they use them? Seems like they were scared their guns couldn’t protect them. The local police failed in their response despite gun in hand. So again, just because you can own a gun does not make you deserving of the privilege. In fact you should have to earn the right, not just assume it. You can’t just drive a vehicle on public roads without proof of capability nor should you be able to own firepower without capability and culpability. Since January of 2022 there have been 214 mass shootings in the US. 3 more just since the Uvalde incident. A mass shooting is considered 4 or more victims not counting the shooter. This count is more than all the major countries in the world put together. Most of which haven’t have had 214 mass shootings in the last 50 years. And there’s yer sign.
That's a great set up and isn't complicated
Remember those cops turning their back on the shooter and engaging in armed and physical confrontations with the moms and dads.
That makes me think the cops were in on it somehow, frankly.
I’m sad the parents didn’t overpower the cops, cuff them, steal their weapons, and charge the shooter.
Fair chance we’d have had a slightly better outcome. 🤷♀️
Lol thin blue line 🤡
@@xionkuriyama5697 that's stupid
I guess “blue lives matter” more than a child’s life.
Beau, also having police waiting for over an hour before engaging a school shooter destroys the 'Good Guy with a Gun' argument.
Ehhh,its more just the pigs being the pigs. They tased and arrested parents who wanted to go in because the cops where cowards.
How about s***t scared cops? Only brave when they are in control. Not entering a room because you might get shot? Why?
As does the police being targeted by mass shooters.
It does not destroy the good guy with a gun argument, it destroys the 'lets leave it up to the cops to protect us' argument. These shooters are typically still brought down by a good guy with a gun.
@@davidgreenwood6029 these shooters mostly shoot themselves.
The "boyfriend" thing...it's bullshit! I had restraining orders, he was a convicted batterer, he still had a gun. He still came to my house regularly, by the time police show up, he's long gone. He broke out windows to get into the house because we reinforced the doors. He broke a window, stuck his arm in with a gun and fired it into the wall. He did actually get a charge for that one, but still had his gun. He never spent more than 90 days in jail for the hell he put me through. Even when he threw me down my front steps while I was pregnant and I ended up having my son prematurely and losing him. He robbed a Hardee's restaurant with weapons and ended up with 2- 20 year sentences for it and 5 for an attempted escape. The law knew he was dangerous and it took him committing armed robbery to finally get him locked up and out of my life.
gonna guess he was a white guy. I feel like any other skin color and he would have been taken a lot more seriously.
😠 Yeah, they should have put his butt under that jail...
I like this guys videos but knowing someone who is extremely close to me & experienced DV Beau is simply wrong to think solving DV will solve gun violence or that it’s easier to solve. Ban certain military grade weapons, do not sell guns to those that can’t buy a beer, & offer buy back programs or tax credits for any guns turned in that are no longer legal to own. Of course do better background checks as well.
Might not prevent the next incident but it can still make a dent & yes we should certainly address DV & mental illness much more seriously but that alone will not fix the gun problem. DV & mental illness exist in all countries, the guns in this quantity, type & easy access doesn’t. Protection does not require weaponry meant for war.
I'm so glad you survived him. I'm sorry your son didn't. I truly wish you the best regarding healing processes.
I am sorry for your loss.
That sounds like a good, common sense solution that would definitely have a huge impact on the problem. That it would also apply to cops is a huge hurdle, but that begs the question. How are domestically abusive officers allowed to keep their jobs? If they're abusive towards the people closest to them, they're hardly going to be less so with other people if they're not going to face any consequences for their actions.
"How are abusive officers allowed to ignore the law they enforce" is, unfortunately, a question that answers itself
well, the victims of the southern baptist convention pedos need to use RAINN for class action since the list came out yesterday, thats what victims advocates are saying, dont use guideposts list, revictimized, that too
It’s the police unions. Their labor contracts allow them to defend even the most heinous of actions. It’s a huge problem.
@@kimthomas781 True. I'm concerned that supremacists may have built power within the unions, since they're generally not intelligent enough to rise to high ranks in the force. The police union rhetoric is definitely not left wing, and that's unusual in unions.
We've had a bad 1 in our little town who most definitely gets off on arresting women!
People that are cruel to animals are usually a breath away from murdering a human being.
Excellent point. Include those that abuse children.
Abusing those that are helpless to escape or effectively fight back. EXTREME RED FLAG !!!!
Yes. And what does that say about all of us? Have you ever seen the conditions of the slaughterhouses and the factory farms, and the “scientific experiments” conducted on millions of animals? Do you not think we are all living on the suffering of sentient beings? What does that say about all of us?
@@tombrown4683 yep. Like going to the store to buy a package of meat and never even thinking about the torture that went into that convenient product you buy
@@john.premose yes most folks, I'm convinced, think meat comes from the store, fresh from the meat machine.
It’s very hard to prove domestic violence if there has not been an arrest and conviction. Also I imagine that animal abuse is often hidden or not reported. So there would be a lot of DV perpetrators who will go unnoticed. That said, I totally agree that those traits should disqualify a person from owning a gun and any prevention is worthwhile.
As a woman who knows how slick guys can be in front of the law after perpetrating domestic violence, I have some hesitation about how effective this might be. Too many women are not believed. Too many police forces dismiss women's complaints. Too many domestic abusers know this very well and incorporate those facts into their abuse cycle - "no one is going to believe you" and they know where to put the bruises. There are also those who torture in other ways, mental, emotional, verbal and financial. They know exactly where the law draws the visible line and play to it. Wish I could be more enthusiastic, I just know too many wounded women.
Your not wrong. Hell if we handled DV better the numbers he's talking about would prob be 70-90% not 40-60%. That said his point is we can point to 40-60 of these shooting a KNOW they have a record in DV. These are guys convicted not slick talkers. Just this alone would help and that's what he's getting at. Not to detract from your point at all, I wish we did better because i'm confident this stat is low for exactly what your saying.
As Ryan said, Beau’s numbers are only taking into consideration the known abusers. Yet it still has that much of a connection. Unless abusers with guns get better at hiding it, then this will still help.
It's extremely difficult because there is a psychological binding that occurs between the abuser and the abused. It works similar to brainwashing. Even while you are in it, there is a part of you that knows, but you just can't. That shame you feel is the worst. You don't want anyone to know. You can't take the way people look at you, and you understand when they walk away from you in disgust because you keep going back. Just thinking about it makes me feel sick
if you take the guns from all the cops with a DV tag that should start to move the problem in the right direction.
Agreed, also in Republican & Conservative Religious communities, women are not likely to call police about domestic violence.
Imagine if we had universal healthcare in this country and parents could get help for their troubled teens. Instead of not being able to afford help and prying nothing bad happens!
We deal with troubled teens the same way we deal with troubled adults. Through the justice system.
@@jenniferh8148 school to prison pipeline advocate?
Americans don’t have a problem with universal education, government funded police and fire departments, why do you think universal health care is socialism. Health care is a basic human right and is funded by lots of western democracies.
@@themightymcb7310 NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Crutic!
@@terryquinane7504 beg pardon?
It’s interesting that the people who tend to do this also tend to be evil to women and animals. It’s almost like they’re pathetic losers who spend their lives kicking down at those who are less able to fight back.
If a child is hitting people with a stick, I will blame the child and not the stick. However, I’m still gonna take away their stick.
THIS!
Also, silly side note:
I literally did this once, while walking to catch a bus during college.
Did not know the child, but he was hitting another smaller child trying to fend off the blows with some cardboard, while a third, a very upset little girl, was trying to make him stop. I didn't even think about it and didn't break my stride, I just automatically shifted my direction and walked into the yard, which got their attention, and they all froze...
Walked up to the boy, paused, bent forward slightly at the waist and just plucked the stick from his hand, never breaking eye contact.
He stayed frozen, aghast at the whole thing!
Then I turned and walked back out of the yard-- and quickened my pace to get down the street because he started bawling and I was afraid a parent might *finally* appear to inopportunely investigate the sound of hysterical screaming in the front yard, lol.
Hypothetical Reporter: "Senator, why are you refusing to take guns out of the hands of wife beaters?"
The Real Answer: Because a lot of wife beaters are cops.
Or better still.... they are politicians...
And, these are not bad ideas from Beau, but for anyone paying attention to the NRA's reactions to ANY legislation to limit guns, its a total NO. Because they realize it is a gateway for adding more and more restrictions. That's why they blocked mental health background checks. That's why they blocked simple fingerprint unlock technology (strongly for years and years), and so on. Also, its not politicians that are "deciding" what gun restrictions may pass and which won't. It's the gun lobby funding their campaigns and the gun lobby's attack mob to that they instruct to badger and threaten politicians against pass any gun restrictions.
And prosecutors, lawyers and judges. The judicial system is filled with patriarchy and its broken.
A lot of wife beaters are also elected officials, and/or on the GOP ticket for the upcoming mid-term elections. Let that marinate for a minute.
he also gets paid by the NRA to not do anything
an australian here.60% dv connection and 100% easy access to firearms . licence and registration work. contrary to what many americans think we here in AU can and do have firearms but there is a requirement that every weapon is registered and every owner is licensed. it works . it may take 5, 10, 50 years but if you don't start it never happens.
And Aussie parents can be sure their children will come home from school every day.
The answer to this is not putting armed guards in tactical gear throughout every school hallway. Innocent people, children, get caught in the crossfire.
People can have any weapon they want. They need to be able to handle and use it properly BEFORE they bring it home. The right to vote is taken from felons. The right to have a gun should be taken from people that have shown to be someone who can't be trusted with that tool. Not really different than when they take someone's ability to drive a car.
Also, and eventually more importantly, we need to change attitudes about guns in America. Politicians shooting guns in their ads to show how tough they are, is wrong. Look at how many t-shirts you can buy with the picture of a muscular guy holding an assault rifle with a flag and eagle behind him. Society in America equates assault weapons with machismo and patriotism. It doesn't take much to pull a trigger. The tools of machismo should be hammers, saws, wrenches, tractors, even computers, pencils, or cameras. The machismo should be about constructive tools not tools of destruction. It's a false machismo. The whole idea of the alpha male is based on faulty research. The "alpha male" is actually a scared male.
so true.
Very true! Thank you!
How does this apply here? The last few were 18 year olds that I dont believe had any kind of record and bought the guns legaly.
We have proven that doing nothing isn't working.
Cowards hide behind a gun.
THEY DONT WANT TO FIX IT. thank you for your videos
As someone who's been working in animal shelters for a long time, THANK YOU for the "being mean to animals" comment. If folks want real data on that, HSUS has a FAQ about studies on the escalation of violence as warning signs. Domestic abusers and domestic terrorists start with victims who can't report them (animals, small children) and work their way up to the elderly and children, then to adults. The kid who's been hurting stray animals in your town needs real mental health support before they are an adult.
And yet again, there's the healthcare factor raising its ugly head to get in the way of the debate.
US: lowest in developed world in healthcare, highest in gun ownership.
If only a percentage of taxpayers' money that bought freaking firearms & more on the military budget went towards healthcare. Imagine the differences.
I have a good friend that carries a gun. He asked me why I don't. I told him I didn't need to. He seemed confused.
It is not manly to carry a gun. It is not a show of strength to carry a gun/weapon. It shows weakness, it shows fear, it shows a lack of imagination.
I own guns. I enjoy practicing with them. I don't need to carry them in public. They are not an option I wish to exercise. If I have a problem I have better options, I force myself to exercise thise.
overall i agree.
one caveat. i won't open carry. it's a matter of courtesy.
Well said. I made those types of choices when I was about 15.
@@jessestreet2549 I won't open carry as it makes me the first target of a concealed weapon.
As soon as I see a gun, I know the man is a coward.
@Bryan Kirby I know that a lot of very brave men carry guns. I'm not talking about those who carry for professional reasons. But when the gun comes out into plain sight, it is due to fear.
Six months ago, Jon Stewart’s show, “The Problem with Jon Stewart”, ran an episode about gun violence. They came to the same conclusion about enforcing the existing laws prohibiting domestic violence offenders from owning guns. They also mentioned that domestic dispute calls made up 41% of fatal police calls.
John Oliver also did an episode on the DV / gun violence link.
Talk talk talk and nothing will be done to resolve the problem
Back I the day almost every house had a gun. Its was just kept in the closet and kids knew not to touch it. (Ammo sep) its was just viewed as a dangerous tool and not to play with. Like a chainsaw. No problems. Now its "I'm a strong soldier man, look at my big gun instead of my small ween"
Truth
What day was that, Matty? I've been a hunter almost all my life and, no, not every household had guns. And those guns were also bolt action rifles with 5 round magazines.
@@clayoreilly4553 where I grew up in the 70's and 80's there were a whole lot of semiautomatic firearms. Almost everyone there still has em. Handguns mostly these days though. Which to me, are more worrisome than AR15's.
@@clayoreilly4553 The '90s in rural and midsize-town Wisconsin was like that for me. Even families that didn't hunt had "the gun" some where in their house.
Ya pretty much from the frontier times up to modern.When people, u know...needed them. Alot up until 60s 70ish. Longer in more rural areas like mentioned above. Not sure about your confusion.
Great job trying to undermine my point by starting with...Matty?, I guess. Good thing you made a great counter argument too so you didnt make yourself sound dumb in your own reply.
My one concern with this plan is that a lot of domestic violence goes under reported and under convicted. We have already seen issues with people going after red flag laws due to DV because it is "taking the guns away without due process " or "its just her word against his." Their defense when voting against this will be " of course I'm against people who hurt their spouse having a gun, but we are a nation of laws and we have to go through the proper procedures (which we have set up to be very complicated and often biased against women's power and safety)."
well, the victims of the southern baptist convention pedos need to use RAINN for class action since the list came out yesterday, thats what victims advocates are saying, dont use guideposts list, revictimized, that was a literal warning from victims advocates i saw
I have mental health issues. I KNOW I can never own a gun. I'm OK with that. I don't need one. Happy without one.
I do believe that people prone to domestic violence shouldn't have weapons. It's an invitation to mayhem.
Excellent video Beau. You're 100% correct.
👋🏾Add: Allowing more and more easy and unaccountable sales of firearms can’t help the situation either. It has to be a multi pronged approach.
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@@tenebrousoul9368 Hey. Sigh. Not feeling it today. Want to curl up into a ball.
@@Erin-Thor 🎈🙂❤️
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having been in a relationship where I was the recipient of Domestic Violence … *HUGE* fan of fixing these red-flag laws, and disarming all the domestic attackers!! 💜🙏
also, having a classification so that perps can't downgrade charges. The moment dv comes in, it has to be noted in the gun registry.
@Ewoks A Lot no. .that's against due process.
If someone is to lose their rights, they need to be fully prosecuted.
Abuse of laws happen time and time again.
@@Maggie-zr2ow where did I say that?
I simply stated people need due process.
Quit putting words in my mouth.
Edit: it's also nonsense people make this about women.
Men and women can be victims of abuse.
@@dan2178 Look. there's due process and then we have dead bodies.
I'm sick and tired of people blindly valuing some ideal that doesn't work perfectly in reality and then, saying "" Oh, so sorry that your ex-boyfriend killed you. Oh well.. I wonder what I'm having for dinner??"
We know that those paper restraining orders don't work. Dead bodies are the proof. So when are we going to stop murdering the victims by refusing to do anything about it?
I'm all for respecting the domestic abusers rights.. as long as somebody pays with their life when the victim dies.
Who wants to pay up? Same for relocation expenses and other expenses because of stalking. I think the people who want to gamble with the victim's lives should be financially liable. That way, they are incentivized to find a solution to dealing with abusers.
@@jenniferhunter4074 I agree with you but I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying.
We can put the defendants on house arrest with tracking devices, in extreme cases where the violence is well documented, a jail cell will do fine.
When they get prosecuted they go to prison.
No need to complicate things.
However I would like a distinction between verbal arguments and actual physical violence and murdering when it comes to domestic violence.
I will say this.
Domestic violence should require violence. and should be charged as a violent crime, when the victim is very badly hurt, it should prosecuted as attempted murder.
Shouting matches should be prosecuted as something else as I feel it too often takes the image of domestic violence and downplays the actual violence occuring.
Bellow are the procedures to own a restricted gun in Canada:
In my province (Quebec) we have Law 9, it’s a psychological test and also a hand on test at a gun range with a instructor that make sure you know gun safety BUT analyse your behaviour around guns. They have to sign off your law 9 test so you can apply for a possession permit. And the PPA and Law 9 passed. AND AFTER passing the CFSC/CRFSC (restricted and non restricted gun safety couse) you take all those documents to the gunsmith and go buy your gun. The gunsmith has to register your gun to the government if it’s a restricted arme (handgun, black gun) not if it a hunting riffle. You need to carry all those papers and the gun license delivered buy the gunsmith to the gun range… oh! And you also need to be a member of a gun range to buy a restricted firearm… all those little process can take you 6 weeks to 4 months. And also you get from the government a carry permit from your house to the gun range IF YOU GOT OUT OF THE ROUTE PERMITTED YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND COULD FACE JAIL TIME! AUTOMATICALLY JAIL IF YOU GET CAUGHT ON SCHOOL GROUND. And!! In your application you need the referral of 5 person that aren’t in your family so the government can call them for questioning … if you really serious about owning a gun. That’s what we go through in Canada.
I rent a gun at the range… easier and don’t need to clean it.
Interesting on that last one. So loners need not apply.
Hey Beau, you reading this?
Back to the old, got to take responsibility if you want rights. We in the USA don't look to other countries for counsel on what works there. And yes, most of it is as simple as stringent gun courses and passing tests during which time there are people who can raise red flags about someone's mental health. We always want to cry personal liberty, but forget to think about how your freedoms infringe upon mine.
Yeah...our laws in Quebec were tightened after the Polytechnique school shooting in 1989. I'm glad they did.
@@kendallsmith1458 dont be fooled by his simple way of presenting things, the man is well read and knows the audience. i wouldnt be surprised if he already knew this but doesnt include it because how hard it is to implement in the US. look at how people reacted to the mask mandate, now imagine how much the people would fight if the US govt even considered to implement this kind of gun control.
You're brilliant! Thank you.
What always strikes me is, having been kidnapped by a cop I did not know, I never hear of firemen NOT rushing into a burning building to save someone. Always a cop thats the coward. That says it all to me.
I said the exact same thing today about fireman.
You will never hear a song “Fuck the EMTs”. #justsayin
I don’t understand any cop who stands outside while an active shooter is loose. I’m a firefighter; I’ve been scared shitless inside a fire, said I was never doing that again ( but did after calming down), but I always carried through and did my DUTY because I volunteered. No one made me join, I chose this profession. I’m also a concealed carry license holder, and if I were present when an active shooter appeared, I would take my chances doing the right thing. I expect no less of every cop in this country, and before anyone paints me as anti-cop, my dad and my brother were/are cops and I KNOW they wouldn’t sit outside waiting for someone else to do something.
@@lesstraveledpath at least this sentiment is exceedingly rare. Unfortunately, there are some rare documented cases of emts refusing to treat or touch transgender patients due to transphobia, like in the case of Tyra Hunter (it's all too common in other branches of medical care, about 1/2 of trans people, and 68% of trans people of color, face mistreatment from medical professionals based upon being transgender).
This being said, I have nothing but respect for emts and other emergency specialists. They are heros who are overworked and underpaid. It's more a symptom of the insidious misinformation spread by the culture war that demonizes trans people and how it can twist people who should know better (just look at the medical professionals who are Covid-19 deniers).
@@dennyo3992 right there with you, honorably discharged Navy Firefighter (Damage Controlman), and on every ship I served, the bells rang we rushed in!!!
Be it a jet, helo, small arms or heavy weapons armory, main machinery room, fuel storage tanks, it didn't matter!!!
Get on scene, assess the situation and move in!
Overwhelm the subject and get them contained.
Talking about details means you can ignore the larger issue, because nobody wants to tackle the larger issue because it takes longer than 4 years. Wilful ignorance is complicity.
They fix problems piece meal because those problems make money and influence.
With guns comes profits from selling manufacturing, policing and prisons
It also creates the law and order candidates because crime creates fear which leads to votes. A candidate must be tough on crime even if you have to manufacture the crime
Yea but also we kinda need at least some major cover wrappings and a lot of pressure before another kid dies. Then we can begin to address underlying comorbities that led to a hole in their chest.
ruclips.net/video/pg9sF0CTLCE/видео.html Finally it's here.
Something I’ve wondered is where are the parents? Most of these school shooters are barely 18, meaning what drove them to it happened while they were children. Finding out the current one had violent tendencies before hand and nothing was done. I don’t have the answers but I would feel I failed as a parent if my kid did something so horrible. It’s not just discipline it’s being aware of how your kid is feeling, what they are going through. These are big issues and it takes a lot more effort to fix than talking points.
@@Averagegunenthusiast Also, where are the lawmakers and the people who vote for the lawmakers? Other countries have restricted gun access and that has all but stopped mass shootings. That's not a talking point, but a fact. In other words, when will Americans make the obvious choice to give up their "right" to bear arms so that children and innocent adults can have a right not to be gunned down while going to school, church, work, movie, store, concert, night club, etc?
We don’t have to do one thing. We need to do everything.
Respectfully, we need to recognize where we are. Figuratively, it is like telling a morbidly obese person that running a marathon will fix their problem; start by getting them off the couch instead. In our frustration, we have to avoid the trap of oversimplifying solutions. Focus on the policy that gives the biggest return first.
I agree. We can walk and chew gum at the same time.
We shouldn't "do everything". There is such a thing as political capital and opportunity cost. Why waste time doing useless things when we can do useful things?
We are very grateful for your words and wisdom and actions.
universal healthcare, universal education, and universal pay
YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES.
Joseph Wilson, 100% agree. Would solve many of the problems ! Beau is correct on this one too.
"600 years" doesn't even BEGIN to account for the ever-increasing availability of 3D-printed firearms parts.
Also, if we're taking guns away from people who commit domestic violence, that includes at least 40% of cops, which sounds like heaven.
I see this as a complete win.
3D printed guns are media clickbait; People have been cobbling firearms out of random materials since the invention of firearms. There are cheaper, faster, more reliable, and SAFER ways to make a zipgun than using a 3D printer...
So if you are able to print your own gun, why bother changing the laws? Why update the background check?
@@getlostwhenwondering393 a few parts can be printed but not an entire viable firearm.
Those kind of people shouldn’t be cops to begin with.
I feel like the cops will go against that kind of legislation since most of them would lose their guns.
Ask them, "Why are you so soft on crime?"
But it would massively increase the amount of no knock raids they could perform. Cops who want to be operators like being attackers not defenders
@@AtariEric you’re making a serious mistake if you believe cops care either about their image or crime
@@shelbypowell9919 You're right - my bad.
Done correctly, it’d clear the ranks of law enforcement of a lot of people who never should have been allowed on the job in the first place and prevent miscreants from being hired in the future🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
1. No guns under 21
2. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime, you're liable too.
3. Mandatory gun safety class before purchase.
18 should be the age of majority for everything.
@@missano3856 While I agree there should be 1 age of majority, (either you are an adult, or you aren't) I would prefer that be 21. Another 3 years for the brain to develop would be good. Especially for males, who's brains don't reach full maturity until about 25. That would make a lot of difference.
So 21 to vote, to be drafted, to enter contracts, to drink, to get married.
I'm with you as long as we change the age to join the military to 21. Most states have mandatory gun safety test written and physical.
@@cobracommander9138 I know hunter safety requirements and concealed carry requirements exist but I've never heard of such a thing simply to have a gun.
@@missano3856 In California in order to buy a gun you have to pass a gun safety written test and then you have to physically demonstrate to certified clerk that you can safely load and unload the gun. In CA all gun transfers have to made through an FFL. Which are going to conduct the tests.
I was just thinking about the "good guy with a gun" pro-gun argument in relation to your last video on this topic. Your point in this video is an excellent response: Abusers are not good guys, with or without guns.
Also, when the "good guys" stand outside and don't push their way in, I don't see how good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns.
For evil to be done, good people only need do NOTHING. Those 'good cops' did NOTHING!
All of those arguments also miss a crucial point. No 'good guy with a gun' can prevent casualties, either. The shooter is going to get the first shot, every time, and if that shot lands, someone is injured or killed. At that point the best thing the 'good guy with a gun' can do is end things with one more casualty. Minimum of two people shot. Mitigation, not a solution.
@@foxmcld584 no sistem work 100%, homicides exist in all country, not just the US
You are assuming cops are good guys.
@@M.M.83-U No system is 100% but having a system that is 80% effective would be a huge difference.
I agree with all of this in principle. The only thing I can't quite get behind is that the right-wing would get behind it in full force. Herschel Walker is there man, for instance, with a serious history of domestic abuse. I don't think they show much of a history of a lot of respect or concern for women. But other than that, yeah oh, definitely.
Came here to say the same thing.
Red flag laws (which it sounds like Beau is taking about) have been proposed before, and they have only passed in a few states.
How does the military handle troops that engage in DV? (Serious question, I don't actually know this)... because the whole 2A thing is connected to states needing militias right? If a citizen has behaved in a way that would get them kicked out of the military, then I think there is a rationale there to restrict their gun rights.
@@DeronJ Red flag laws wouldn't have stopped this kid. He just turned 18, so unless he did something to get charged as an adult, his juvie record is sealed. Nothing shows up on background check.
@@brianmurman5845 When right-wing extremist learn not to ask stupid questions like "how do you define a woman?", then maybe you can lecture others on women, Mr. Murman. Probably not though.
What’s the point of the Patriot Act and police surveillance if things like this keep happening?
Oh yeah it’s to defend the status quo, not to actually keep us safe.
I'd go so far as to say there current model is to threaten, scare, and harass the populace.
well, the victims of the southern baptist convention pedos need to use RAINN for class action since the list came out yesterday, thats what victims advocates are saying, dont use guideposts list, revictimized, that was a literal warning from victims advocates i saw
Patriot Act. Militarized police. Gun control. All these things take power away from civilians and give it to the government under the guise of "public safety" or "national security".
Love & appreciate your shirt! Also your observations & direction
I feel that access to quality mental health services starting in schools would also help. We never think about preventative.
Some of us have been thinking about that line for 30 years, but Republicans refuse to allow funding, so it’s a dead end.
Preventive care isn't profitable. And healthcare is an industry.
Should an 18 year old kid be allowed to buy 2 assault weapons three days after his 18th birthday?
Or should he have to have training and be qualified to operate the gun just like we do with cars?
Especially since many things that lead to adult disorders happen during childhood. You've got to give kids an environment to vent this stuff in, especially if the person causing them the most trauma is their parents.
it gun arent the problem the problem is is mental, economics, and people with a demostic violence/animal abuse.
It'd effectively keep a bunch of a-holes off the force. I like this.
I'll be frank, at this point, i'll try almost anything. Not obviously stupid ideas like giving guns to teachers, but I'm just so goddam tired of nothing at all happening.
A brit here, so no stake. I just cant explain my anger at this tho. As the news of this shooting came out, US politicians were coming out with their good guy with gun crap.. as the cops stood outside holding back parents.
@@TheScotsalan tbh as a gun owner with a concealed carry permit, the story about gun owners being there to protect everyone else is a fucking myth.
Also if they cannot wear a mask during a pandemic then they obviously won't take a bullet for a child
@@TheScotsalan yep, not the first time its been made clear that cops are under no obligation to protect or serve
@@Brian0033 If the cops say they were following regulations, it then begs the question.. why not improve gun regulation.
Funerals, funerals are happening...
Thank you for saying this.
Beau. As a foreign national living in the US,
And a man who was brought up hunting.
I find it appalling that that the gun owning men of this country continue to be so negligent in their role to change this from within! I know Congress has a huge part to play in legislation.. but as a a people, we each have a choice every day to do our own part!! I own several guns, which are stored in my home country.. my licence to use those tools has expired some time ago. BUT! If they were here with me today I wouldn't HESITATE to run them through a shredder!! I grew up to respect the hunt, the animals that we stalked.. a true hunter needs very little fire power to bring down a kill.
The men of this country have had a choice for nearly 50 years to make a difference, and be the father's, protectors they need to be, to ensure a safe future for their families. It SICKENS me to see the sackless decisions made to justify this sickness!!
Its an embarrassment to listen to men around me saying it's some sort of RIGHT!? Or NEED? To own these "TOYS" because that's how most here see them.
Cowards.. WEAK men!
Love the shirt Beau. Been saying this since Columbine. Systemic inequality combined with the bully "might makes right" mentality of our society is how we are different than other nations. But it is part and parcel with our original sin of slavery. Also reinforced by our obsession with sports and making gym coaches principles of schools. So deeply ingrained that we do not even think about it. It drives conformity such that it others anyone different and sanctions bullying of those marginalized folks. If we had a more equal and inclusive society, this would not be an issue. But driving the division and scamming the working class of their fair share HAS BEEN EXTREMELY PROFITABLE FOR MANY. Those at the top. Those who think the golden rule reads as: Those with the gold make the rules. Greed and hatred are killing us. And those at the top do not care as they don't mingle with us any more. They have their gated communities and private armies.
The GOP hijacked the NRA in 1970 to get the mailing list and manipulated it into a platform plank and then created income disparity to reduce the political leverage of the Middle income people to stay in power after the GOP was embarrassed by their CROOK, Richard Nixon and this income disparity has now gotten its just deserts, a polarized, ignorant populace that votes for shills, grifters and con artists thinking this will drain the swamp that the GOP has maintained since 1972. Quit voting for REPUBLICANS !
Re: Our obsession with sports, gym coaches as principals:
One of the wrestling coaches at my high school was the nicest fill-in woodshop teacher I ever had. The guy before him -- who lost his job because he sexually harassed a student, is the rumor -- was this Type-A asshole for whom it was all about project completion, individual results, regardless of who gets left behind. I was failing that class, because I wouldn't butt in to take my turn with the limited availability radial arm saw, planer, bandsaw, etc -- because I didn't want to deprive others (we really just did NOT have enough tools), so I would mostly help others. He gave me a speech, two or three times, in fact, about me, as a senior, needing to be an example to the freshmen, a leader. When the wrestling coach took over the class for the next semester, though, I don't know what it was, but I guess he just happened to notice me helping others here and there, so I passed with an A even though all I made was some rickety little stool. (And my folks love that thing nonetheless, because I made it.)
I don't mean to post to argue, so much as to warn. You can find the best, most humane values taught by those you may see as the unlikeliest of people. Not all gym bros are toxic. Some of them train in a spirit of mutual endeavor, recognizing that everyone is on their own path, doing the best they can with the body they have, rather than trying to maintain a hierarchy of swoleness. Obviously, there's enough toxicity that it gives us pause, but we need to maintain open minds and hearts so that we can meet our allies instead of passing them by without a word exchanged.
Now, when the football coach was put in for a whole semester of the psychology class, that wasn't great, from an educational standpoint. He wasn't toxic, but he was not equipped to teach the material. But then, in 101 level stuff, the textbook can be leaned on pretty heavily. We do need more educational resources. We do need to stop socially promoting kids who are failing, but need to pass so they can stay on the team. Just be careful you don't always assume the athletics folks are all bad, that's all.
Columbine school, as I understand from those involved with the school, has still not done anything about the bullying, which was a major part of that attack.
GOP: We shouldn't make guns political.
Everyone: So you agree that you should stop taking money from the Gun Lobby?
GOP: ...
And stop using guns in their campaign ads.
GOP talking rubbish for the easily fooled because EVERYTHING is politics. There is nothing and no subject in existence which is not political.
And governors shouldn't take speaking gigs from the NRA.
Preach.
@@Smilley85 Abbott backed out of his appearance at the NRA conference today (Friday, 5/27/2022), but most likely because of the optics that Beto shoved in his face, not because of his own (lack of) beliefs or morals.
I wish you were running for office. Your insights are what our legislative leaders need.
Jon Stewart has brought this exact point up as well.
An excellent place to start...and if applied right, the responsible gun owners remaining will have no issues living alongside other responsible gun owners.
Thanks again Beau.
In the recommendations: "Let's talk about guns, gun control, school shootings, and..." It was 3 years ago and nothing's changed.
Beau could have a Playlist for mass shootings with a subcategory of school shootings. And that is not a good thing
It was infuriating to already have a video about cops waiting outside of school during a shooting.
THIS EXACTLY!! All I want is law that does SOMETHING about people who shouldn't have guns! Not this feel good bull sh!t limiting how long a rifle is, or mag size. Pass laws that effects people, not inanimate objects.
Only issue is that people may be fine when they buy a gun, and then not be. Some people are also very good at masking who they really are and their real intentions.
As Beau said in a previous video, people in the US treat guns as status symbols, not the tools they are.
And no one in civilian life needs the kind of weapons being used in these shootings (semi-automatics).
Australia is way safer and so is New Zealand after following Australia's approach from 1996.
European here. People shouldn’t have guns. Period.
@@Verity2true Confiscation is a non-starter. Even if it were logistically feasible, it'll never get through Congress, let alone past the current SCOTUS. So better to focus on things that actually can be done. The fact that the people who do these things have tend to have a history means we can target them. We can raise awareness so that people who absolutely should not have guns cannot get them so easily, and those that aid them in obtaining them can also be held accountable.
I would love for someone to explain to me why you need to take a hunter's safety course to prove you're responsible when hunting and to not harm other hunters but you don't have to take a safety course to buy a gun.
@@arthurdent9281 yeah, like they can only buy bullets that contain dried flowers. Lol. Or bubbles. Pink confetti. oooh, this is fun.
A city in CA recently held a buy-back for a $50 gas card. They had to stop early due to the overwhelming response. I call that a practical solution. This will eventually happen more and more often.
What was the quality of the guns and how were they acquired? For all we know those guns were stolen. I'm not turning in a $500 firearm for a $50 gas card.
my grandparents have guns dated back to the 1800s, handed down to their family
my grandfather was a marksman instructor for the military following service in the korean war. and he has spent his life fishing/hunting game all across the US until recent years. he probably had close to a thousand rifles, shotguns, and handguns at some point
neither him, my great-grandpa, or anyone they know, treat guns the way they are fetishized today
america today has a gun-culture problem
@denise starr it may be a lot, but it was also part of his profession to handle guns. he didn't collect them for the purpose of collection (i should add he's sold most of it now that he is not as mobile)
you could argue he had a hunting fetish though. unlike guns he did display a lot of taxidermy, furs and antlers
Anything that makes this much sense would never get through Congress.
Slava Ukraini
Don't need Congress. Lobby your state legislature.
While I understand your trepidation, that's demonstrably false. But even worse, it's exactly this sort of myopic thinking that causes people to be apathetic, witch in turn makes it a _self-fulfilling prophecy._
Slava Ukraine!
I had to check to make sure this video wasn't 2 years old, because I know I've heard you say all these things before
I’m sure all this in reference to DV is correct and the receipts are relatively easy to find. But how does it relate to the fact that in school mass shooting events, with 146 people killed and at least 182 victims injured, the average age of those involved in carrying out the attacks was 18? Are the DV records going to reflect their histories and propensity to carry out these attacks?
Yeah, I wonder how long it would take to ensure people under 25 couldn't use guns unsupervised & couldn't own without a license?
(I say 25 because the (male) brain takes until age 25 to fully mature in decision-making & other high funtion faculties. Under 21 would be a good start. And lifting the age to 21 to buy weapons immediately, like alcohol, would stop more young people acquiring them.)
Keep any gun you want but replace lead with rubber and 99% of the problem is over.
If the average age of K-12 school shooters is 18, that means that some are younger, and therefore were not using firearms that they personally purchased through the legal route. Regarding shooters who are 18 or slightly over, I do wonder how juvenile records are handled now, and whether that could be better. If somebody is violent toward animals or people at 16-17, those specific juvenile records should be reflected in background checks when they're 18, and a cursory search suggests this isn't the case in all states.
With this school shooter, he threatened to rape a girl who rebuffed him. So, yeah, let’s look at threats, stalking, and abuse towards girls and women.
Look at those who are radicalized incels.
Ban gun sales to anyone under 21 yrs of age. This is a no brainer!! Do it now!!
Was the Uvalde killer ever reported for domestic violence or animal torture?
Wouldn’t you also want to combine raising the purchase/possession age of rifles (or any kind) to 21 with this?
LIke this video a lot. But I also thought the same thing about an age limit.
I've talked about the age limit before. You won't see me complaining if the age limit gets raised.
@@BeauoftheFifthColumn At some point...I hate to say it...but you may need to run for office.
You've tossed that idea around that right?
I'm almost certain you hate the idea.
You could easily raise enough to campaign for a House seat.
As George Carlin said:
"Where are all the good upstanding citizens to run for office? This is the best we can do. Garbage in, garbage out."
Good people need to run if we want to change things. And only sociopaths seem to want to run in 90% of these districts.
@@jasondean88888 NO. Beau is a TEACHER not a POLICTICAL FIGURE
It was mentioned today in a report that he had a history of abusing animals and posting videos online in some groups he was in. Sick POS.
To all the people here mentioning mental health - that only helps when you admit there might be a problem that needs fixing. The only time you can FORCE someone into mental health services is when they've already proven a danger to themselves or someone else. By that time, a new event has already happened. Even if mental health services were available for free tomorrow you have 2 monumental barriers in front of you - 1) there simply aren't enough people licensed to provide services to meet current demand, much less even a 50% increase over current demand, and 2) the stigma around searching out mental health services. Hell our country can't get its head wrapped around the idea that not every woman wants to (or can, or should [health-wise]) bear children and you want them to admit they might need help with sorting themselves out? I've got some bridge real estate for you. Beau is correct. Until the culture around mental health and/or guns are corrected, the only way is to legislate correlative behavior as a limiting factor.
This right here! 100%.
The enemy of good is perfect. Let this be the first step, if it works at all then great, if it doesn't you keep adding more... Plus if it does work you gain momentum and people may be willing to have more measures.
Those convicted of domestic abuse need to have their behaviour challenged and given the tools to behave better. IT should be mandatory in the UK and the US but it is not. Nobody wants to pay for it.
@@Redkite-nd8gc In the US they can court order anger management therapy as part of a domestic violence conviction, but that has very mixed results and is highly dependent on the patient buying into the therapy, plus requires that something bad has already taken place. Same goes for substance abuse counseling.
well, the victims of the southern baptist convention pedos need to use RAINN for class action since the list came out yesterday, thats what victims advocates are saying, dont use guideposts list, revictimized, that was a literal warning from victims advocates i saw, we need to stop them before repressed memories surface so they dont blow up churches and shit, too? i hope they just sue
We also need to change the background check loopholes because without the need for a background check pointing out the wifebeaters isn't going to help if they can just buy a gun at a show or from a private seller without a background check
I have heard "that will never happen.. " about seat belts. About public smoking. About a non white president. About legalization of marijuana. About affordable healthcare. About gay marriage and adoption. You are spot on about organizing to change this society.. I am listing these because in each case a cultural/political/society change.. hard as it is.. is possible. It might even take another hundred years, like women's voting rights.. but it is the persistence that makes it happen.
I have to disagree on this one.
First a caveat: I know getting guns off the streets (buybacks/bans) would not be 100% effective, but neither would banning abusers alone from gun ownership.
The idea of 1 gun a minute for something like 600 years is really slow walking the process.
Sacramento did a buyback and received 134 guns in 45 minutes. The didn't receive more because they ran out of the gift cards they were exchanging for the guns..
That is about 3 guns per minute.
If every city of over 100,000 people started a single location for a buy back program that would be about 325 cities in the US.
That is about 675 guns per minute. That would clear the US civilian possessed firearms down to 0 in about 3.5 years if you only worked at it 8 hours per day.
(Maths: According to wikipedia there are 393,347,000 civilian guns in the US: guns/675 Guns per Minute / 60 minutes / 8 hours / 365 days
Would they get EVERY gun in the country? Of course not. But it would reduce the numbers.
Couple this with regulation (such as banning abusers, banning assault weapons, strong licensing requirements for buyers, sellers, owners), and America could become as safe as any other nation.
And seriously no one is advocating for getting rid of all guns. Fewer guns = fewer deaths. Even reducing by 10% would be THOUSANDS of lives per year.
I agree - it's not a problem of proportions or methods, it's a lack of political will. Once there is a will, there will be a way.
Another point of criticism to Beau's approach: It tries to rationalize the problem, by making the argument that offenders shouldn't own firearms - which I consider correct in itself. But it will not convice in a highly emotional debate, where one side basically considers gun ownership a god-given right.
This! Too many guns are problem #1. Other regulations, social services, mental health, universal healthcare etc. matter also. Each step taken gets us closer to sanity. Gun safety is NOT where America is great. Again.
Agree with you. We do still need to focus on mental health issues, but I think monitoring that sensibly would be nearly impossible. A buyback plan worked for other countries. Proving, yet again, most of these politicians prefer keeping things as they are, with their pockets well greased, rather than letting us all safe.
Yeah, Australia had everyone turn in their guns. It was quick.
They don't all want to overthrow their government though.
beau, you're points are well taken, and your reasoning and recommendations for legislation are sound, but ... we also have to get guns of the street and find some measure of accountability for manufacturers (remember the ford pinto? i am a strong proponent of regulating guns like we do cars). the fact is (the numbers don't lie), is that the more guns there are in a population, ther more gun violence there will be. full stop. i do like your quick fix for now idea though.
yeah definitely need more than one thing.
Mandatory gun insurance for all gun owners--just like automobiles. The insurance companies, tired of paying off the victims, will raise hell and laws will be passed.
Further, the premiums for nutcases and domestic abusers will become so high that they couldn't afford ownership. Why would a LAW ABBIDING citizen be against it?
Most of the time when a woman calls the police for a DV issue she will be told she’s getting arrested also if she swung back. She won’t want her kids to go through CPS so she drops it. And it is reinforced that she is trapped. Cops actually help the abusers keep them in line and scared to get out.
Protect and serve my ass!
And that's when the abuser isn't a cop himself
I was thinking that the number of filed DV reports would mysteriously go way, way down (not that reports are filed enough as it is). Wouldn't want the guy to lose his guns now, would we.
Or even worse, they won't call the cops at all or they risk losing their home. Many cities penalize landlords who have excessive calls to the home (maybe just 2x) and the landlord will kick tenants out for calling the police for help. It's vicious.
Can confirm
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Ah, i forgot, you're talking about America, the land of the brave, the land of the free.
YES! Saw something on this recently and glad to see you talking about it. Let’s go!
I've had my gun rights taken away because someone lied and accused me of domestic violence but I've never laid a hand on or threatened anybody in my life. Because I can't afford an attorney I was forced to give up my hunting weapons forever. I could easily obtain any kind of weapon I wanted but I don't feel the need to go through the hassle or risk getting caught for having any. I'll just stick to fishing.
Were you hauled into court and convicted?
That's my concern about a red flag law. I know several men who were falsely reported in the middle of custody cases. I also know women falsely reported for child neglect because their neighbor/ former friend/ex-husband wanted to cause them trouble.
I really don't know the answer here, but I do believe that economic inequality is a big contributor. Whenever unemployment, etc., goes up, so do all the bad things: domestic violence, robbery, murders, rape, and spree killings. Desperation breeds violence.
yeah but for every one of you guys there's a hundred who do, i agree with beau...and the victims of the southern baptist convention pedos need to use RAINN for class action since the list came out yesterday, thats what victims advocates are saying, dont use guideposts list, revictimized, that was a literal warning from victims advocates i saw, we need to stop those girls before repressed memories surface so they dont blow up churches and shit, too? i hope they just sue
@@retriever19golden55 My main concern about red flag laws is that it deliberately violates not just the Second Amendment but also the Fourth, Fifth, Fourteenth Amendments and undercuts the entire philosophy of "innocent until proven guilty" that our entire justice system is based on.
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Screw a ban, it is pointless. How about changing who and how they obtain them? Seems logical. . .
Good video as always, stay you and stay safe.
Yeah, that's what gun control is actually about. I think the nay sayers would then reply that there's then the "slippery slope" that would supposedly lead to "them taking away our guns," which is literally the slippery slope fallacy.
Or the cost.
Add some insane tax on all weapon sales.
@@jarls5890 Cost won't do much to deter this kind of attacker-- someone who's going to run around killing kids probably isn't expecting to live through it, or at least not expecting to get out without a *long* prison sentence, so their finances aren't likely to be a priority.
@@jarls5890 Real nice... that. Only Elites (who rule this country anyway) could afford to defend themselves... the poor, like always, have to take the violence, cruelty, and abuse with a smile and a "thank you!"
Get real.
Not pointless, necessary. You'll always have a problem unless you can significantly reduce the amount of weapons in circulation, and the overflow is endangering people in Canada where I live, so please, please, please, reduce the number.
The whole gun culture needs to change. We need to shift the conversation from rights to responsibility.
Responsibility? Can you clarify please?
@@magnanimus9692 You have a responsibility to avoid injuring other people while excising your rights.
That is why I find anti-vax/anti-mask protests silly and best, genocide at worst.
When you live in a society a lot of what you do affects others.
@@jamesphillips2285 Um, sure, I get the spirit of what you are saying, but I would rephrase it by stating 'you are entitled to your rights in as far as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others'.
@@magnanimus9692 Nah. There are no gun rights, but there are gun responsibilities. If you can maintain those responsibilities, no guns for you.
@@jamesphillips2285 so be mad at minorities who don't trust vax or cops?
One a minute is a ridiculous standard. They sell them faster than that.
When Australia did buybacks for assault weapons in exchange for $50 gas cards, they got 1,000,000 guns and ran out of cards. Buybacks have been successful in some states too. Florida tightened background checks and enacted red flag laws due to pressure from Parkland protests. Those red flag laws stopped 6,000 disturbed individuals from owning guns and God knows how many homicides. Shouldn’t we try things that have worked Beau? Shouldn't we try everything possible to save our kids?
He offered a good solution that is actually viable in our lifetimes. The United States is very unique with its gun culture. Stop comparing us to other countries please. I wish we were like them but we're not.
Should be doing All of it!
Australia has more guns now than they did before the buyback. The only appreciable difference in deaths was a drop in successful suicides. Besides, no one who intends evil will participate in a buyback. Preventing theft by encouraging secure storage, universal background checks and other measures Beau has suggested in previous videos would accomplish more and not make criminals of peaceful people.
Australia was mandatory their was no option it was do or face arrest.
So places in the US have had buybacks that have varying degrees of success. The problem is a lot of the firearms that are turned in are often recently stolen, like stolen specifically to be turned in.
Also the aus buyback was mandatory, which wouldn't fly with our current shit show SCOTUS, and even if it did the people that really need to not own guns are the same that couldn't be bothered to wear a mask during a pandemic so they aren't likely to willingly participate.
I do agree with the red flag laws though. Here in Virginia such laws were passed as well, but they are super recent so idk the data on the effect. The problem is the GOP went full tilt crazy trying to stop them, which would likely be emulated on the federal level.
Overall beau isn't saying his idea is the only way to resolve the problem. He is saying its a policy that actually stands a chance of making onto the presidents desk.
I am not a gun guy. I grew up with guns. (I'm an older Canadian). I absolutely agree with what you are saying. It is however a part of the solution. Another part can be removal, there can be licensing, background checks ect, ect ect. Multiple things can be done at the same time. I understand there is a fundamental difference in the way Americans view guns vs. Most of the rest of the world. As a dad and a grandfather I would like to see every method possible used, to try and prevent something like what is becoming common place in your country. It's effing heart breaking. I'm obviously not an intellect, but I do have a heart. Hope my neighbors to the south can sort this out sooner than later.
Neither the Buffalo shooter nor the Uvalde shooter were criminals until the day they used legally purchased guns to commit mass murder--so Beau's argument is not entirely valid. As you say, it is a partial solution.
@@rogerpalmer3522 60% is still massive though.
I think we're all in agreement that everything that can be reasonably done should be done, but look at the politics: gun thing happens, Dems push anti-gun theater, Reps rally well trained gun rights activists who will vote NO on any gun issue, nothing happens. Consider then, a different group pushes DV restrictions, no one likes a wife beater (I know its a broader category but follow me) and things can get done.
It's not becoming commonplace... it IS commonplace.
Thanks for pointing us in the correct direction. This is a fact based answer to these tragic.
I am so grateful for your work Beau.
Thank You
Nailed it! Thanks Beau.
May I add another suggestion in the same vein? Whenever a crime involving a gun gets committed by somebody listed as not supposed to have a gun, we need to prosecute, as an accessory to the crime, whoever sold or gave him that gun. Having a list of people barred from gun ownership will do no good if gun dealers have financial incentive to ignore such lists.
There are women serving life in prison as accessories to murder just because their boyfriends ran to them and said, "Hide me!" without explanation, and they did. Accessory to a crime is a very serious matter. Bust one or two gun dealers this way and the rest will get in line like boyscouts, diligently checking those lists.
Also, raise the age to 21 before someone can buy a gun alone.
Sadly, I think that the age of 'sanity' is somewhere after 40. In the USA, it may even be later. Make the age of gun ownership over 40 and that, alone, would reduce the mayhem. Why? Because young men are testosterone crazy.
@@j.davidcox3783 Then my mother would not have been able to defend herself when a jack-ass crackhead kicked our door in.
Raising the age to 40 wouldn't have stopped the Vegas Shooter either.
That’s idiotic. If I can get drafted into military at 18 to handle (Actual) military grade weapons to fight a war to possibly die in. Why can’t people have the right to use regular civilian level firearms?
@@bonda_racing3579 Because civilian level firearms are nearly military grade. Maybe muzzle loaders or having a timer between shots built into the gun. (Round every minute?)
@@bonda_racing3579 good point...but maybe 18 year olds who know nothing should not be put in the role of killing folks...jus' sayin..
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Spot on with this, Beau👏
I'd like to point out the UK's approach to giving out gun licences.
To get this out of the way, loads of firearms are full out banned due to mass murderer events particularly on school children which brought the ban on all hand guns & sub machine guns.
However for all shot guns, rifles both non auto & semi auto there is a incredibly thorough background, medical & criminal check. Extremely tight.
Firearms deaths have plummeted since the early 90s.
However the dark side is 'suicide' or more correctly 'auto euthanasia' by firearms is highest amongst farmers, since they're the most like to own a shotgun or rifle.
UK had less guns and long history of banning various guns/weapons. Which had less guns in circulation than the US.
That is the huge difference.
@@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas It was a hell of of a lot different before the early 90s, I'm old enough to remember unfortunately.
Granted there were not the modern semi auto assault rifles or sub machine guns back then in the 80's but the ones that existed could still easily massacre large amounts of people.
Australia & New Zealand are both famous cases of the same change in attitude to gun licensing.
@@satyr1349 Look up the Mini 14. That was around back in the 80s and a semi auto rifle that fires the .223 round.
And neither of those two countries had the same level of gun ownership as the US. So, they had an easier time buying back those guns. And won't cost the Nation as much it would cost the US to buy back guns nor did it take that long of time. Which Beau covered how long it would take. That is just counting if everyone willingly gave up their guns.....
Seems like you did not watch video....
Australia and New Zealand does not count self defense as justifiable reason to own a fire arm.... That would not fly in the US.
@@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas With Beau's absurd logic the highly successful banning and confiscation of high-capacity semi-auto firearms in Australia would have taken several years to complete, but it didn't.....
@@organican No it would not for every 100 people in the US their are 120 guns.
There are 326 million people in the US. with more than one gun than per person.
Australia nor New Zealand had that kind of firearm to people ratio. I mean New South Wales had hand gun ban post WW2.
I have a neighbor convicted of harassment with intent to terrorize. It’s a felony though he got literally a slap on the hand for it. He’s got guns!!! Allegedly felons are not allowed to have guns?!? He shoots at animals right next door to me. And he’s been intimidating me for a very long time. It seems no one said “ your free to go, next turn in your guns.” This idea sounds good but someone has to follow up?!
And I remember years ago the cops all complained about being “out gunned” by criminals. Where the heck are they on the ease of anyone including kids buying guns, especially assault weapons?? If anyone has skin in the game, you’d think it would be them? 😡
I was just thinking this. Remember the days of the tough as nails cop shows where they are racing the clock to get the guns off the streets in order to save the disadvantaged but gifted youth from succumbing to gang violence? It was a whole meme. The NRA has so twisted our gun culture. It’s terrifying.
file a complaint with DHS that doesnt sound good
Was he actually convicted of a felony w/o pleading guilty to something less? If so... you can always report him.
Here's my wish list:
1. Close all the red flag law loopholes and expand it to include animal cruelty charges as well.
2. Raise the age to own all guns to 21.
3. Universal background checks required for any gun purchase. Close the private seller and gun show loopholes, as well as the Charleston loophole.
4. To make ghost guns more difficult to obtain, require that all gun parts have identifiable serial numbers and only can be sold through licensed gun dealers (no direct mail online sales). Required dealers to confirm that you're a licensed gun owner / record the sale before selling any parts to you.
5. To own a gun in the US, you need to be issued a federal gun owner license and complete required safety training. To get a carry license, you need to have a higher level license and more extensive training. Current gun owners would have a window of 3 years to comply. Allocate money to set up a division under the ATF to provide this training for free nationwide. This would take away the ability of yahoo NRA governors like Greg Abbott to pass laws like he just did.
6. Make civilian ownership of body armor illegal so these maniacs aren't able to stand toe to toe with police returning fire. Have an amnesty and buyback program, ship it over to the Ukraine, make available to US military service members abroad and law enforcement if suitable. There's no second amendment right to this gear and you'd have fewer people on Facebook LARPing that they're Rambo. They won't look as tough without the plate carrier holding in that gut.
7. Give every newly federally licensed gun owner a voucher that can be put towards buying a gun safe.
8. Create a federal reckless endangerment statute - you get charged if your gun is used by someone else and they were able to get their hands on it because it wasn't in a gun safe or reported stolen.
9. Make it a felony for anyone but on duty law enforcement to bring a gun into a school, government building, or place of worship, even if they're licensed to public carry.
10. Create a federal registry of all firearms in the US and place a hefty IRS excise tax on the value of any guns an individual owns beyond six per person. If you need more than six guns you're compensating for something. You can still have your personal carry handgun, hunting rifle, shotgun, AR-15, and a couple of extras for fun or to take the kids hunting. If you have a lot of kids under 21 and like to hunt, get the wife trained and registered, and she can get six more guns tax-free too. Poor people who want to own a gun wouldn't be penalized. Use the tax money to fund the free training, gun safes, federal registry record keeping, and gun buyback programs. This would also bite into the gun industry profits and the funds they use to keep politicians in their pocket, so it might be easier to get common sense gun legislation enacted.
It's a lot and I know it would never get through the Senate unless they get rid of the filibuster, but I'd be fine with all of these changes and I think most Americans would be as well. None of these laws would really impact the majority of responsible gun owners adversely either and should hopefully be able to withstand second amendment legal challenges.
Alots of issue with your wish list.
Raising ownership to 21 is a very large betrayal to those that sign up for service in the military or even those that might get drafted into the military at 18. To use actual military level firearms while back home their completely prohibited from using civilian firearms? Doesn’t sound right.
Lastly the idea of gun licenses turns the second amendment into a privilege rather than a constitutional right.
My other concerns is expanding the ATF’s powers when they have a clear history raiding innocent peoples homes and shooting their dogs in the process. It’s common enough people in the gun community make jokes about it.
Among others
I understand am not gonna change your mind. But if you want try going into the gun community to understand why they fight against these laws. You be surprised at how many even dislike the NRA.
Almost went with it, but Body Armor iis questionable. It literally saved a Pizzaman's life and the shooter didn't even bother to actually use the plates.
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A couple of rebuttals to some of your points:
1. The military places some pretty stringent rules on where and when active duty personnel are allowed to be carrying a firearm while on base too, so don't pretend active duty personnel are walking around strapped 24/7. Also, when service men who are under 21 go off base in the US to go on leave, can they go to a bar and legally order a beer? No. Same logic applies.
2. Because it is a Constitutional right, requiring people to register is out of order? You mean like voting?
3. It doesn't have to be the ATF that runs the training, but it does need to be a federal agency if it is a federal program. Since the ATF is the one with 'firearms' actually in their name, that's who would probably be tasked with overseeing a gun related program too. As long as the training policy comes in, though, create a whole new agency and name it after Annie Oakley if you like.
@@dansacco7907 They still receive training and allowed use of military firearms. When their barred from civilian use.
Licensing isn’t the same as registry. A License implies that’s much more privilege than a right allowing the government free range to strip you from it.
I just don’t the state to be given such power and handle it responsible.
Either way my wish list
Is to see a universal health program where mental illness are included for people to bring their own in if need be. Along with better security in schools by starting re-evaluating police training in handling these situations to avoid the complete failure of dipshits “securing the perimeter” will they let evil run free in a school.
Sorry for any typos it’s quite early and waking up
@@bonda_racing3579 it's not an either / or solution. I'm all for better mental health coverage and better training of police for responding to these situations so this never happens like this again. But there are plenty of other things that can be done too to make it harder for this to happen that still won't affect law abiding people's ability to own guns conveniently and responsibly in any significant way.
Anyone who enlists right out of high school and completes their 4 year hitch will be 21 by the time they get out and they'll be well trained in gun safety which is a great thing. While they're serving, they will either be deployed or on base most of the time, so the amount of time where this is a limiting factor on how they live their life is pretty minimal. Also, the age for owning a handgun is already 21, so this isn't really a new restriction, just using the same logic across the board. For anyone discharged from the military for a non-medical/physical injury reason before age 21, I'm not sure I'd want a lot of them owning a gun either.
We just had two 18 year olds buy long guns and kill a whole bunch of people in the last week, not to mention Columbine, Aurora, Parkland, Sandy Hook, and the Tree of Life synagogue shooters were all under 21 I believe. If it inconveniences service members under 21 on leave a little bit that they can't own a gun themselves, I'm okay with that trade off. They can still go hunting with their dad's gun while they're home for Thanksgiving leave, they just can't own it.
Your semantics distinction between registration and licensing is really a distinction without a difference. Right now, gun owners need to get permits to own in most places. Hunters need to get hunting licenses. No matter how you slice it or define it, it is still a governmental authority issuing you a document saying you're allowed to own the gun and how you can use it.
Beau for President! I'd vote for you!
With a combined approach, and by that I mean doing things like common sense gun laws, restrictions similar to the 90s ban, the red flag idea, targeting violent people such as Beau suggested, I think we would see huge changes and drastic drops in mass shootings. I also think with a multifaceted approach it wouldn't take centuries to get a lot of the guns out of circulation. And you wouldn't need to get all of them either. Back in the 90s, nobody was selling their banned guns. And the few that did were bought up by hoarders who wouldn't let them go. We can look at the rest of the world and see that banning guns, improvement in gun laws, etc... works. Definitely it would be much harder here because of the sheer number of guns and the culture itself. But 50% of all the guns are owned by 3% of the population. It's not impossible. I agree, it's logistically incredibly difficult, but not impossible if that's the direction it went. Even background checks would help. Bottom line, it's time to stand up to the gun lobby and stop letting them make the decisions rather than the people.
Beau, please provide more specificity as to how your recommendation would be implemented.
I would like to know too. Red flag laws (which it sounds like Beau is taking about) have only passed in a few states.
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For how much noise certain people make about how "it's a mental health issue" and "we need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill" there's conspicuously little action to accomplish that from those people making the noise. Lots of attempts at action from others who want something done, but not from those so enamored of their empty words. Flooding the zone with " good guys with guns" doesn't keep guns out of the hands of felons, of the mentally ill, or, as Beau pointed out, of abusers
Finally!
We have all been preaching this for years! Go look at Beau’s old videos.
Let’s actually get these 2 parties together for ONCE!
This is the paradigm shift. Hit it NOW!
Write your representatives!
GOP: This isn't about guns, it's about mental health.
Public: Then we need mental health care.
GOP: We won't do anything about that either.
Well they do seem to elect people with mental health issues
GOP: But that goes against our every interest
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GOP: "But then how are our candidates suppose to get elected?"
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Beau, banning people that cause DV is great. The problem is, if you don't try to get rid of the military weapons, then they will get one either on the black market or from someone in a private sale. To simply say that there are too many of them to try is a major cop-out. The AR15 is the most popular rifle due to marketing. And Daniel Defense posting an ad showing a baby holding one of their rifles just sealed their fate in a lawsuit. The stupidity of the gun makers and their greed also created this problem.
You can never prevent any type of gun from existing, gun smithing exist. It's about meaningfully impacting their access by mass shooters/murderers. Meaningful doesn't mean 100% of the cases. And military weapons aren't more deadly then other weapons. Fun fact, most military weapons started as civilian and police weapons that then got adopted by the military. In fact the new rifle the military is adopting is already for sale on the civilian market before it was even adopted. Military quality actually tends to be cheap and subpar.
The AR15 is indeed popular because of marketing, but not just because. It's also popular because it's ergonomical, cheap through mass production and because of it's widespread use there's a lot of support for it e.g. accessories you'd like. It's just straight up a good product, like an iPhone. The iPhone isn't *just* popular because of marketing. It's a solid product with a solid ecosystem.
Banning the AR15 is meaningless symbolism. Beau rightfully points out closing loopholes and going after DV is by far the most effective way to do this. That isn't just his opinion but the opinion of medical professionals. www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aar3067 AR15's are perfectly legal in places like Switzerland without leading to mass shootings. Individual characteristics of guns isn't the issue, it's access and the prevalence of loopholes.
Someone made the case that there were 100 "good guys" with guns in the Texas thing, and people still were killed. This is a terrible issue.
They were practicing tolerance for the trans suspect
Domestic violence is under reported. Improving the way it is handled so it is safer to report would help. Making sure resources and counseling are available for victims whether man or woman would help. While it is better then it was, more needs done.
Very good Beau, makes perfect sense