A list of all the recommendations in the video! I put one together with the help of AI and put it in a GitHub Gist: gist.github.com/zachfeldman/9ecf378e02762b437d30090232a6338d - Zach
@@milk_bath Keyboard feels good. I used to work specifically on Lenovo Thinkpads and Carbons and whatnot, and so far my Framework keyboard feels so much better. Keys are soft but grippy, the travel is perfect imo. It took me second to get used to but its my favorite laptop keyboard currently.
I think in terms of attracting the same audience that would buy thinkpads if they weren't garbage, however, from any era, frameworks and thinkpads are very different animals. Thinkpads were never intended to be user servicable and IBM used to do technician housecalls if your ThinkPad ever broke, which is something framework will never offer (not that we want them to) The industrial design is completely different too, Framework obviously going for the apple-esque styling with the aluminum chassis and keyboard style. IBM set their own design language and any pre-lenovo ThinkPad looks dramatically different from a framework. So while I get the sentiment, frameworks really aren't the new thinkpads other than drawing in the same audience.
What I would love to see is if Framework could provide modular trackpad alternatives, like the thinkpad niple or a trackball (for us keyboard-centric users). And man if they could replicate the feel of the IBM switches, obviously avoiding any patent issues, that would be perfection.
Hey guys, Zach here. I'll try to respond to as many comments as I can but thank you so much for the engagement on the video! To address the biggest trend I'm seeing in the comments: yes, I got it wrong, "Wine Is Not an Emulator", but a "Compatibility Layer". I do think in hindsight though that "emulator" is an easier way to explain to non-highly-technical audiences, which this video is sort of aimed at. Anyway, thanks for all the interaction ya'll!
Another W take. While I do think compatibility layer is better name in this case and really not that hard to explain with visual aid. The W lays in thinking about end consumer and understanding that it's an average person doing whatever they do in their life and not a developer. I love it ! I'm one of those folks, the only reason I know a bit about tech is that Microsoft just kept on pushing me away from Windows for a decade now and this year I made the leap finally. My experience through the decade was this Linux just didn't work out of the box 10years ago. I tried to switch but Linux community forced me to stay on Windows because of their attitude towards average user. From their perspective you're not putting enough time to setup your system, which might take 100s of hours therefore F-off... Now Linux works out of the box if you only browser online and do emails switch to Linux mint now ! It's much better experience. If you play video games that's another story, there are thousands of games that work but not all of them and it very hardware depednat. To make it clear if anyone had to pirate games in the past in 2010s somewhere there about when you had to tinker to play the games, , to make them work. It's like that on Linux now there are thousands of games that just work and some need to be tinkered with. If you have time and play only few games like me I'd again say switch to Linux Mint. Now this is a long ramble but for a reason. I have steam deck and just build my AMD PC (Windows killed my laptop - long story). There are games that just work on deck but on my PC I need to tinker to make them work properly , even tho my PC magnitudes more powerful then deck I have fps problems for some reason. So steam deck optimization makes linux much more attractive. Have you guys contacted steam for partnerish ? You are a couple made in heaven. Steam has the scalabilty money , you have the right idea. This is how I see it. If you get partnered framework gets optimized for steam OS, which transfers to Linux in general. That means Linux works out of the box and gaming on Linux works out of the box. Not only that but your old frameworks could be literally transformed into consoles with thousands of games. Graphics have peaked there's no need for more shine I build my PC on am4 architecture which is last gen but IDC because it saved me a lot of money and it still works. If there was such Framework laptop framework for old gen to be used as console and it would work like steam deck, I'd would have bought used Framework instead of building new PC. I bought PC because I'll have to tinker with it and I'd have to tinker with old Framework too, so I build more powerful PC for same price. But if old Framework would've worked out ofn the box I'd buy it because time is more important for me. And now this is another point. Steam clearly would like to enter OS market but they know how complex it is and customer support heavy. But if you enter the picture as partner, well your hardware is streamlined , so it reduces possible problems and is tremendously helpful to find and fix bugs. Not to mention that people that are your "followers" are a bit tech minded and would know what they are getting into , yet again helpful to reduce customer support burden and reduce operational expenses. So I'll ask again , have you approached steam ? Please leek all NDAs :D
systems integration specialist here - switching to linux for my daily computing was the best choice I ever made. It's so much better than anything else and just lets me take control over my own computer.
@@zachfeldmanframework I tried installing the LTS version of Ubuntu on a totally new Ryzen laptop, which the installer crashed probably 5 times, then once installed I immediately got a bug report popup. It's rough... Maybe just and AMD issue?
@@nathanfranck5822 that's weird. I've also done a vanilla LTS install on an AMD board and didn't have that issue. It would be hard to tell without looking at logs from your system what exactly is going wrong. Sorry to hear you're experiencing issues though!
Haha yup that is true! I got the Fedora hat at the Open Source Summit in Seattle recently thanks to the kind folks at Fedora and the Framework hat is from a team retreat :)
yeah but this is a guide aimed at people who aren't familiar with linux. Calling it an emulator makes it easier for people to understand without complicating things.
It looks like you didnt account for the 3:2 aspect ratio of the framework in the capture, and it also looked to be dropping some frames. In what would be a very helpful video to many prospective buyers, these things probably shouldn't be happening. I think its really great hearing from someone not working in the content/PR side of the business, since it helps give a different perspective, but it might have been helpful having someone more experienced in content production validate the recording setup before hand.
i think they're on zoom or something similar? that's my guess considering the compression artifacts. but you're absolutely right, it makes it harder to watch
Today marks the 3rd week that I've migrated from an M1 Max MBP to a Framework Laptop 16 running the KDE spin of Fedora 40 and have been really happy so far. If you use Apple iCloud for e-mail, contacts and calendar, GNOME Evolution has quick and easy support for them, but you will need an app-specific password set up in your Apple ID account. I stood up a Nextcloud instance to provide file syncing between machines in place of either Dropbox or Apple iCloud files. Also a nice thing about the Laptop 16 is QMK/VIA for key re-mapping. I remapped the left Ctrl and Fn keys (and got stickers to label them properly) and the right Ctrl and Alt keys (and carefully switching the key caps).
I really appreciate the work framework has been putting into Linux, both from the perspective of supporting it on your hardware but also the way I’ve seen your team advocating for it. You all sold me long ago- my next laptop is absolutely going to be a framework- but videos like this do a great job of reinforcing my support. It was a well put together and informative video, even for someone like me who has been daily driving Linux for a while.
I really enjoy these videos. They feel right , just folks exolaining stuff with no nonsense, no fancy bloat , just people talking about their work which is machine designed to do the job ! Very utilitarian, very enjoyable and relatable videos. Keep them comming , I won't be able to afford framework for at least two more years, but I'll keep an eye on you guys...
Beware my guy W - wine I - Is N - Not a E - emulator That's the official acronym Ofc course with the fractal reference that foss apps like to do aside, they tag themselves like a translation layer instead of tagging it as an emulator.
If you're coming from macOS, *elementaryOS* will feel _very familiar._ It's actually more "OSX" than the bloated mess that's modern macOS 11+. It's gorgeous, minimalistic and _gets out of the way._ It's also "downstream" of Ubuntu while not using snap. Pop_OS!' COSMIC desktop will likely be the solid choice too once it's out (the alpha should be ready in the next few weeks).
I did the switch to GNU/Linux a couple of years ago and macOS has only gotten worse since then. Currently using openSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma desktop and I find it the best desktop experience, counting all OSes I currently use (still forced to use Windows and macOS at work for testing our code, yikes).
Many don't understand why the need to confuse / complicate things. Just say Linux. There could be numerous other things apart from GNU before the word Linux, if one takes that route. Communities had this argument about 20 years ago, and Richard Stallman "lost". Why mention GNU but *not* all the other contributors for all the other parts? Most developers are using Docker, Wayland, PipeWire, systemd, Plasma, Kubernetes, Ruby, Java, Golang, Rust, etc, all of which GNU didn't have a part in. If you add even half of those before the juice (which is Linux) - the lineage outcome as "name" would look out right insane for any type of people..
Next step: convince companies that they don't NEED to hand out mega expensive (and unrepairable) MBPs. All I really want is the freedom to use my Framework laptop with my OS of choice. I get the job done even faster, since I enjoy the environment much more.
I just switched to Framework 13 + Mint-OS, the only downside is that the fingerprint sensor is working, but not integrated in the cinnamon UI :( I have to use the gnome version for this. But tbh, I love the develop experience on the framework.
It's unfortunate that enough of the bottom of your screen capture was cut off that the dock was not at all visible while you were talking about it, but great workflow walkthrough :)
Really cool. I'm not going to be getting rid of my M3 Pro MacBook any time soon, but I'll definitely give putting a Linux distro on a partition on my PC a go again. Gaming is really the only reason I have the thing, and I'd be more than happy to get as much windows out of my life as possible.
You should do a companion video to this one showing how you setup all of the supporting software to make the video. E.g. screen recording, camera, audio etc. I feel like even though the desktop is similar this is the biggest struggle for people switching over.
Y'all should consider making an ortholinear keyboard layout, this is the only platform that I feel this would work for as ortholinear isn't mainstream, but being able to ditch the staggered layout BECAUSE I can switch out my actual laptop keyboard would be DOPE!
Framework laptop with Zorin Pro should be the ideal combo for new linux users, as you can instantly set it to mimic any desktop including MacOS, favorite Windows versions, ChromeOS, as well as default and classic Gnome.
I’m not really much of a tech guy but I wanted to switch from windows to Linux because I don’t like that my computer gets slower and slower every update. Is there anything I need to know or learn?
You don't get more secure than Linux. Many encryption options available, less chance of backdoors, you can even run from one of the SSD modules and carry it with you. OpenSnitch is also available.
I have been using a mac for the last 8 years and while it's served me super well I think its time has come (insert master oogway). I cannot WAIT for frameworks to start shipping to Greece and I mean c'mon guys it's the EU, how hard could it be? I really don't need greek docs or helpdesk I just want to be able to order a machine and parts to an address here.
Great tip using Firefox to add a signature to a pdf file. I've been using Linux for a year and I didn't know this. Last time I tried with Libre Office Draw, but it messed up the pdf text.
really hope they can increase the Wh of the battery even more in the future, combined with some more resources on the AMD side for the high battery drain on video playback and we should have a lot more battery life.
@@JoeHoeDoesSomething well probably Snapdragon X support will be the reason for me to buy framework as a second laptop. Currently own Thinkpad on Intel.
I don't know if any of the mainstream distros ship with it by default, but in my experience, it works perfectly if you set it up. For fastest results, you need swap the size of your RAM (ouch) in order to avoid compressing everything before writing to disk. Of course, this will end up wearing out your TLC or QLC (shudders) SSD way faster than it normally would. I also think there are some bad interactions with full-disk encryption, which is most likely the reason Ubuntu and the likes shun it.
I know its a nit pick, and im not sure if anyone will see this but could you put the link to the drivers page on the support tab of the website? I feel it needs to be easier to access instead of having to google for the drivers specifically. Especially as we have a button on the keyboard that takes us directly to the fw website.
10:28 photopea can work "locally". You can install it as pwa and it works offline. Idk if it works on linux but you can also associate file extensions to photopea after installing it as pwa (but for example on brave browser filesystem API is disabled by default so you need to change that in browser config)
My guess is it had something to do with “WinE” like “Windows Emulation” but then it’s not technically an emulator so “Wine is not an emulator” happens to fit that
[4:04] My mouth just dropped. This is how you sign a document in America/Canada? It's just a picture! How can any institution accept that? I'll say it wasn't me and no one can prove anything. Here in the EU everything needs to be through eIDAS. It's very interesting however. 😀
Those are called snaps and they aren't slow and inefficient, for what they are. That is, they are on par with flatpak. Initially they used to be pretty slow to start, especially the first time, but that's mostly gone now. Not saying they're identical with flatpaks, but they're fine, like robbiet said. The thing with snaps that annoyed many people is the forced (seemingly) way Canonical put them in Ubuntu, including clearly trying to make everything be a snap. Recently they changed some app, I forgot which one, so that if you use the command "apt install whatever" to actually get it from the apt repository, not the snap version. Adding to this, the snap server-side is closed source and the snaps cannot be configured to use another repository. People into freedom totally don't like that. There's also the upside that you can't have any type of software as a flatpak, but you can as a snap (though there might be exception, I"m not super sure). Services can be snaps, like a full nextcloud installation.
@@Winnetou17 There's also the issue that the snap hosting backend isn't open source, so Canonical is the only one who can officially serve snaps. Also anecdotally, Snaps have not worked as well as many Flatpak counterparts in my experience. I'm sure that may improve in the future but it's gone as far as Valve recommending people not install the Snap version of Steam because they were receiving many bug reports related to the Snap that they had no control over but received the blame for.
You guys really need to bring these in India. Make them in India to get it cheaper, and you get access to the most population market. Apple has started to come here, and I hope you guys come too!
Seems like you guys need a decade to ship to Asia. I'm saving for this but running out patience probably will go for M3 apple as an alternative. Is 2024 is the year or next Atleast mentioned this?
Great Video, but slight persnicketyness: You said "the German government switched to Libreoffice" ... that's not accurate... several governments in Germany have done that... like the city of Munich famously dumped windows for Linux, and then years later switched back... much more recently what you are probably reporting is that the Shleswig-Holstein (a State within Germany with a population of nearly 3 million) switched. The federal government has never switched. So rather than the US government switching, it's like Kansas' did. Not nothing, but not quite what you said.
I have been using macos and linux for ages. They are not the same. The apple eco system is very strong. You have to break this first (in your mind). Linux desktop is nowadays easy to use. Personally I use pop os on my fw16. Only issue is battery life. It isn’t bad. But not good either.
also beware, spotify is NOT fully feature on Linux, jams are not supported the last time I checked a couple months ago, I had to join using my phone an then switch to my computer
Why? You can already do the same thing on any Linux distribution with Steam installed. SteamOS is basically just Steam with Arch Linux and gamescope integration. So what are you waiting for?
A list of all the recommendations in the video! I put one together with the help of AI and put it in a GitHub Gist: gist.github.com/zachfeldman/9ecf378e02762b437d30090232a6338d
- Zach
Framework is the new thinkpad.
How is the keyboard?
@@milk_bath Keyboard feels good. I used to work specifically on Lenovo Thinkpads and Carbons and whatnot, and so far my Framework keyboard feels so much better. Keys are soft but grippy, the travel is perfect imo. It took me second to get used to but its my favorite laptop keyboard currently.
I think in terms of attracting the same audience that would buy thinkpads if they weren't garbage, however, from any era, frameworks and thinkpads are very different animals.
Thinkpads were never intended to be user servicable and IBM used to do technician housecalls if your ThinkPad ever broke, which is something framework will never offer (not that we want them to)
The industrial design is completely different too, Framework obviously going for the apple-esque styling with the aluminum chassis and keyboard style. IBM set their own design language and any pre-lenovo ThinkPad looks dramatically different from a framework.
So while I get the sentiment, frameworks really aren't the new thinkpads other than drawing in the same audience.
Keyboard feels decent
What I would love to see is if Framework could provide modular trackpad alternatives, like the thinkpad niple or a trackball (for us keyboard-centric users). And man if they could replicate the feel of the IBM switches, obviously avoiding any patent issues, that would be perfection.
I'm glad that you guys support Linux so well ❤️🐧
Hey guys, Zach here. I'll try to respond to as many comments as I can but thank you so much for the engagement on the video!
To address the biggest trend I'm seeing in the comments: yes, I got it wrong, "Wine Is Not an Emulator", but a "Compatibility Layer". I do think in hindsight though that "emulator" is an easier way to explain to non-highly-technical audiences, which this video is sort of aimed at.
Anyway, thanks for all the interaction ya'll!
Please see the comment by @supersnail5000.
Another W take. While I do think compatibility layer is better name in this case and really not that hard to explain with visual aid. The W lays in thinking about end consumer and understanding that it's an average person doing whatever they do in their life and not a developer. I love it !
I'm one of those folks, the only reason I know a bit about tech is that Microsoft just kept on pushing me away from Windows for a decade now and this year I made the leap finally.
My experience through the decade was this Linux just didn't work out of the box 10years ago. I tried to switch but Linux community forced me to stay on Windows because of their attitude towards average user. From their perspective you're not putting enough time to setup your system, which might take 100s of hours therefore F-off...
Now Linux works out of the box if you only browser online and do emails switch to Linux mint now ! It's much better experience.
If you play video games that's another story, there are thousands of games that work but not all of them and it very hardware depednat. To make it clear if anyone had to pirate games in the past in 2010s somewhere there about when you had to tinker to play the games, , to make them work. It's like that on Linux now there are thousands of games that just work and some need to be tinkered with. If you have time and play only few games like me I'd again say switch to Linux Mint.
Now this is a long ramble but for a reason. I have steam deck and just build my AMD PC (Windows killed my laptop - long story). There are games that just work on deck but on my PC I need to tinker to make them work properly , even tho my PC magnitudes more powerful then deck I have fps problems for some reason. So steam deck optimization makes linux much more attractive. Have you guys contacted steam for partnerish ?
You are a couple made in heaven. Steam has the scalabilty money , you have the right idea. This is how I see it. If you get partnered framework gets optimized for steam OS, which transfers to Linux in general. That means Linux works out of the box and gaming on Linux works out of the box. Not only that but your old frameworks could be literally transformed into consoles with thousands of games.
Graphics have peaked there's no need for more shine I build my PC on am4 architecture which is last gen but IDC because it saved me a lot of money and it still works. If there was such Framework laptop framework for old gen to be used as console and it would work like steam deck, I'd would have bought used Framework instead of building new PC. I bought PC because I'll have to tinker with it and I'd have to tinker with old Framework too, so I build more powerful PC for same price. But if old Framework would've worked out ofn the box I'd buy it because time is more important for me.
And now this is another point. Steam clearly would like to enter OS market but they know how complex it is and customer support heavy. But if you enter the picture as partner, well your hardware is streamlined , so it reduces possible problems and is tremendously helpful to find and fix bugs. Not to mention that people that are your "followers" are a bit tech minded and would know what they are getting into , yet again helpful to reduce customer support burden and reduce operational expenses.
So I'll ask again , have you approached steam ? Please leek all NDAs :D
Please see the comment by @supersnail5000
Is it possible to get the names of the software you recommended and/or links to them in the video description or pinned comment? Thanks!
Instead of having to blur the signature bit you could have used another signature. Wikipedia has signatures for recent US president's like Obama.
systems integration specialist here - switching to linux for my daily computing was the best choice I ever made. It's so much better than anything else and just lets me take control over my own computer.
I also switched to Fedora last year after using macOS for 17 years and I cannot fathom ever switching back to anything else, it's never too late!
Fedora is super solid :)
A fellow switcher! We love Fedora here at Framework too, I'm actually in the minority now as an Ubuntu user at the company I think, lol.
@@zachfeldmanframework I tried installing the LTS version of Ubuntu on a totally new Ryzen laptop, which the installer crashed probably 5 times, then once installed I immediately got a bug report popup. It's rough... Maybe just and AMD issue?
@@nathanfranck5822 that's weird. I've also done a vanilla LTS install on an AMD board and didn't have that issue. It would be hard to tell without looking at logs from your system what exactly is going wrong. Sorry to hear you're experiencing issues though!
The fedora and the framework hat on the bg tells a lot that you love your job.
Haha yup that is true! I got the Fedora hat at the Open Source Summit in Seattle recently thanks to the kind folks at Fedora and the Framework hat is from a team retreat :)
This is probably the most friendly introduction to Linux I've come across for a very long time. Well done!
Aw thank you! Much appreciated!
WINE Is Not an Emulator, it's in the name! It translates Windows API calls to Linux; much faster and less overhead than emulation!
yeah but this is a guide aimed at people who aren't familiar with linux. Calling it an emulator makes it easier for people to understand without complicating things.
@@jakewynn He could've easily say the correct term - translator. I'm sure people would've understood the same.
Emulation has many meanings. FYI, they changed the wine acronym meaning back in the day, likely for legal reasons.
@@DanielMircea Interesting, didn't knew it was changed.
While on this, I suppose that GNU has meant GNU's Not Unix right from the get go, right ?
But wasn't the name just a way around some possible legal issues?
It looks like you didnt account for the 3:2 aspect ratio of the framework in the capture, and it also looked to be dropping some frames. In what would be a very helpful video to many prospective buyers, these things probably shouldn't be happening.
I think its really great hearing from someone not working in the content/PR side of the business, since it helps give a different perspective, but it might have been helpful having someone more experienced in content production validate the recording setup before hand.
i think they're on zoom or something similar? that's my guess considering the compression artifacts. but you're absolutely right, it makes it harder to watch
Can’t wait to pick up a Framework laptop
Today marks the 3rd week that I've migrated from an M1 Max MBP to a Framework Laptop 16 running the KDE spin of Fedora 40 and have been really happy so far. If you use Apple iCloud for e-mail, contacts and calendar, GNOME Evolution has quick and easy support for them, but you will need an app-specific password set up in your Apple ID account. I stood up a Nextcloud instance to provide file syncing between machines in place of either Dropbox or Apple iCloud files.
Also a nice thing about the Laptop 16 is QMK/VIA for key re-mapping. I remapped the left Ctrl and Fn keys (and got stickers to label them properly) and the right Ctrl and Alt keys (and carefully switching the key caps).
What framework laptop beats the M series of Mac?
I really appreciate the work framework has been putting into Linux, both from the perspective of supporting it on your hardware but also the way I’ve seen your team advocating for it. You all sold me long ago- my next laptop is absolutely going to be a framework- but videos like this do a great job of reinforcing my support.
It was a well put together and informative video, even for someone like me who has been daily driving Linux for a while.
I really enjoy these videos. They feel right , just folks exolaining stuff with no nonsense, no fancy bloat , just people talking about their work which is machine designed to do the job ! Very utilitarian, very enjoyable and relatable videos. Keep them comming , I won't be able to afford framework for at least two more years, but I'll keep an eye on you guys...
Thank you!
Beware my guy
W - wine
I - Is
N - Not a
E - emulator
That's the official acronym
Ofc course with the fractal reference that foss apps like to do aside, they tag themselves like a translation layer instead of tagging it as an emulator.
Wine is as much an emulator as the terminal emulator he mentioned ;)
aka recursive backronym
@@aromaticsnail i LOVE recursive backronyms and acronyms
@@fuseteamthat is a surprisingly accurate statement
@@Mempler partially because emulation is technically not limited to hardware emulation (which wine's old bacronym is referring) to xD
I’ve been testing Linux Mint and really enjoyed it so far, it’s actually on my main gaming PC and compatibility has been excellent.
If you're coming from macOS, *elementaryOS* will feel _very familiar._ It's actually more "OSX" than the bloated mess that's modern macOS 11+. It's gorgeous, minimalistic and _gets out of the way._ It's also "downstream" of Ubuntu while not using snap.
Pop_OS!' COSMIC desktop will likely be the solid choice too once it's out (the alpha should be ready in the next few weeks).
I went from MacOS to Linux in a Framework 16. Loving my NixOS life so far.
I did the switch to GNU/Linux a couple of years ago and macOS has only gotten worse since then. Currently using openSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma desktop and I find it the best desktop experience, counting all OSes I currently use (still forced to use Windows and macOS at work for testing our code, yikes).
Many don't understand why the need to confuse / complicate things. Just say Linux. There could be numerous other things apart from GNU before the word Linux, if one takes that route.
Communities had this argument about 20 years ago, and Richard Stallman "lost". Why mention GNU but *not* all the other contributors for all the other parts?
Most developers are using Docker, Wayland, PipeWire, systemd, Plasma, Kubernetes, Ruby, Java, Golang, Rust, etc, all of which GNU didn't have a part in. If you add even half of those before the juice (which is Linux) - the lineage outcome as "name" would look out right insane for any type of people..
Next step: convince companies that they don't NEED to hand out mega expensive (and unrepairable) MBPs. All I really want is the freedom to use my Framework laptop with my OS of choice. I get the job done even faster, since I enjoy the environment much more.
I just switched to Framework 13 + Mint-OS, the only downside is that the fingerprint sensor is working, but not integrated in the cinnamon UI :( I have to use the gnome version for this.
But tbh, I love the develop experience on the framework.
An option with mouse buttons and a trackpoint would be nice
It's unfortunate that enough of the bottom of your screen capture was cut off that the dock was not at all visible while you were talking about it, but great workflow walkthrough :)
¿Blender, Inkscape GnuStep?
You had me at "the year of the Linux desktop"
There has been a plethora of Linux content. And more specifically, getting persons onboard to switch
@@israellewis5484 still long way to go
Dude!!! Nice wallpaper with the framework logo. Please share link.
I feel like there are a lot of mistakes in this video, but the spirit is there! So thats pretty cool, thanks for making it!
this video was made for a target audience of me
I love Linux and framework.
Really cool. I'm not going to be getting rid of my M3 Pro MacBook any time soon, but I'll definitely give putting a Linux distro on a partition on my PC a go again. Gaming is really the only reason I have the thing, and I'd be more than happy to get as much windows out of my life as possible.
Linux mint is running real nice on my framework 13!
What is your preferred method of installing apps on Ubuntu? Snap packages or Flatpack, or apt, or something else perhaps?
Every year is the year of Linux Desktop (since the day I got hold of Ubuntu 10.04 OS DVD).
You should do a companion video to this one showing how you setup all of the supporting software to make the video. E.g. screen recording, camera, audio etc. I feel like even though the desktop is similar this is the biggest struggle for people switching over.
Y'all should consider making an ortholinear keyboard layout, this is the only platform that I feel this would work for as ortholinear isn't mainstream, but being able to ditch the staggered layout BECAUSE I can switch out my actual laptop keyboard would be DOPE!
The fun and exciting world of refund details and anticipated actions
Great content!! Comparing Gimp to MS Paint was a bit of a stretch tho imo 😂
Loving this nerd content 👍
Thank you!
I'm seriously thinking about one of these machines. Is it possible to have cpus like Ryzen 7945hx?
Framework laptop with Zorin Pro should be the ideal combo for new linux users, as you can instantly set it to mimic any desktop including MacOS, favorite Windows versions, ChromeOS, as well as default and classic Gnome.
Is there a full height size arrow key?
I’m not really much of a tech guy but I wanted to switch from windows to Linux because I don’t like that my computer gets slower and slower every update. Is there anything I need to know or learn?
Love the simple customization of the UI. I would like to know if any other security features can implemented or added with hardware.
You don't get more secure than Linux. Many encryption options available, less chance of backdoors, you can even run from one of the SSD modules and carry it with you.
OpenSnitch is also available.
How does it work with hibernation when you are closing your laptop? So far it is the most frustrating experience comparing linux and mac.
I have been using a mac for the last 8 years and while it's served me super well I think its time has come (insert master oogway). I cannot WAIT for frameworks to start shipping to Greece and I mean c'mon guys it's the EU, how hard could it be? I really don't need greek docs or helpdesk I just want to be able to order a machine and parts to an address here.
I can order one and send it to you if you want
I can help you too!
Where can I get tashi / tashee? Thank you!
Im also a RoR dev looking for a new challenge, got a spot?😅 Also will you release a thin and light 15 or 16 inch with a 16:10 / 3:2 display?
Great tip using Firefox to add a signature to a pdf file. I've been using Linux for a year and I didn't know this. Last time I tried with Libre Office Draw, but it messed up the pdf text.
Okular reader does it even better
Thank you!
Great video! One app suggestion would be Cider for Apple Music for those coming from Apple and may have that subscription already instead of Spotify.
Thank you! Cider looks cool!
Any chance we could have either a write up/article of the contents of this video or a link to all the projects talked about?
Battery life is what keeps me on macOS
That's something nobody can truly argue with, here's to hoping Framework and Qualcomm partner up and make Snapdragon X Plus and Elite mainboards
really hope they can increase the Wh of the battery even more in the future, combined with some more resources on the AMD side for the high battery drain on video playback and we should have a lot more battery life.
The battery life on the framework 13 AMD is pretty decent
@@JoeHoeDoesSomething well probably Snapdragon X support will be the reason for me to buy framework as a second laptop. Currently own Thinkpad on Intel.
I didn't go through the many comments yet, but where can we get that wallpaper? (Or any other Framework ones for that matter)
any solution to put my Framework on hibernate on Linux? putting the laptop on sleep is not good enough as it drains battery :|
I don't know if any of the mainstream distros ship with it by default, but in my experience, it works perfectly if you set it up. For fastest results, you need swap the size of your RAM (ouch) in order to avoid compressing everything before writing to disk. Of course, this will end up wearing out your TLC or QLC (shudders) SSD way faster than it normally would. I also think there are some bad interactions with full-disk encryption, which is most likely the reason Ubuntu and the likes shun it.
Sarcastically, oh, what a knockout! Apparently, your oh-so-"stellar" Sales Incentive payment has been oh-so-"processed."
This is such a helpful video!
I feel like Okular is also a pretty good Preview replacement.
Yup Okular+Gwenview, quite a nice combination
Don't install Starfield Zach. Love yourself, you deserve better lol
More like midfield
Can I see the process of making one of these videos on Linux?
I know its a nit pick, and im not sure if anyone will see this but could you put the link to the drivers page on the support tab of the website? I feel it needs to be easier to access instead of having to google for the drivers specifically. Especially as we have a button on the keyboard that takes us directly to the fw website.
10:28 photopea can work "locally". You can install it as pwa and it works offline. Idk if it works on linux but you can also associate file extensions to photopea after installing it as pwa (but for example on brave browser filesystem API is disabled by default so you need to change that in browser config)
Oh that's really cool! Love that idea.
how can I reach out to you guys?
I wish I could get a Framework to replace my failing ideapad, but they don't sell them in my country 🙄
are this selling in Mexico?
as a mac user i love this so much
Thank you!
I just hope software Devs start bringing all their apps to the Linux desktop
Wine stands for “Wine is Not an Emulator”
This! Wine/Proton is a native Linux implementation of Windows APIs which lets Windows software run natively on Linux. There is no emulation involved.
But what does ‘Wine’ in ‘Wine is not an emulator’ stand for?
My guess is it had something to do with “WinE” like “Windows Emulation” but then it’s not technically an emulator so “Wine is not an emulator” happens to fit that
[4:04] My mouth just dropped. This is how you sign a document in America/Canada? It's just a picture! How can any institution accept that? I'll say it wasn't me and no one can prove anything. Here in the EU everything needs to be through eIDAS. It's very interesting however. 😀
I appreciate that you say that GIMP is sort of "MS Paint-like program" :) I hate when someone says it is like Photoshop because it isn't :)
Lol right?! Thanks!
Isn't Ubuntu now krap because of some app wrapper that makes apps launch slow and run inefficient?
It’s not my preference, but it’s fine as far as I’m aware. My co-worker uses it.
Those are called snaps and they aren't slow and inefficient, for what they are. That is, they are on par with flatpak. Initially they used to be pretty slow to start, especially the first time, but that's mostly gone now. Not saying they're identical with flatpaks, but they're fine, like robbiet said.
The thing with snaps that annoyed many people is the forced (seemingly) way Canonical put them in Ubuntu, including clearly trying to make everything be a snap. Recently they changed some app, I forgot which one, so that if you use the command "apt install whatever" to actually get it from the apt repository, not the snap version.
Adding to this, the snap server-side is closed source and the snaps cannot be configured to use another repository. People into freedom totally don't like that.
There's also the upside that you can't have any type of software as a flatpak, but you can as a snap (though there might be exception, I"m not super sure). Services can be snaps, like a full nextcloud installation.
@@Winnetou17 There's also the issue that the snap hosting backend isn't open source, so Canonical is the only one who can officially serve snaps. Also anecdotally, Snaps have not worked as well as many Flatpak counterparts in my experience. I'm sure that may improve in the future but it's gone as far as Valve recommending people not install the Snap version of Steam because they were receiving many bug reports related to the Snap that they had no control over but received the blame for.
I had to laugh at "GIMP is like Paint. You can do basic image editing". Hope you didnt' get flamed too much 😀
You guys really need to bring these in India. Make them in India to get it cheaper, and you get access to the most population market. Apple has started to come here, and I hope you guys come too!
Matte black framework please
I would switch to a framework if you sell them in México
Seems like you guys need a decade to ship to Asia. I'm saving for this but running out patience probably will go for M3 apple as an alternative. Is 2024 is the year or next Atleast mentioned this?
Starting a manufacturing factory in Asia will be great. People are looking for such factory.
i use arch btw
By the title I assumed you guys did hackintosh with framework laptop😅
should recommend krita instead of gimp, more user friendly
Obligatory ask for Official Arch Linux support as a preinstalled option (will make Arch btw elitists very mad)
Hello NixOS users... ;)
Well, you could have just create "not my real signature.png" to avoid blurring)
Man feels like everyone has that JWST image as their desktop background 😂
I briefly worked in Aerospace so I just love images that unite my two passions :)
Day 1 of - Requesting FRAMEWORK to install ORTHOLINEAR keyboards to Framework Laptops
Wine is not an emulator
I use arch, btw
Okay, but why does the start button have a windows logo? Why not the framework logo?
Yo framework team, how is the battery life?
Can you test with VS code, chrome, ruby running a project?
maybe add slack or teams in the background?
Yo, get out of my head! I just bought a framework that gonna get here tomorrow to replace my MacBook, wanted to go back to my Linux roots!
Sorry for reading your thoughts! Lol
POP OS v24.
Great Video, but slight persnicketyness: You said "the German government switched to Libreoffice" ... that's not accurate... several governments in Germany have done that... like the city of Munich famously dumped windows for Linux, and then years later switched back... much more recently what you are probably reporting is that the Shleswig-Holstein (a State within Germany with a population of nearly 3 million) switched. The federal government has never switched.
So rather than the US government switching, it's like Kansas' did. Not nothing, but not quite what you said.
Didn't just super open the search
why is your desktop view a screen recording of a zoom call screenshare, instead of just recording your desktop... the quality is as bad as a JPEG
Can I cutomize 8945hs amd with nvidia rtx4060 8gb on framework?
And why would I exactly switch from Apple Silicon to loud, overheating and low battery running Intel or AMD on a notebook that is without thunderbolt?
You guys should make your own distro for framework laptops to give competitors against system76 and tuxedo
POV: you use macOS and Asahi-Ubuntu:
I have been using macos and linux for ages. They are not the same. The apple eco system is very strong. You have to break this first (in your mind). Linux desktop is nowadays easy to use. Personally I use pop os on my fw16. Only issue is battery life. It isn’t bad. But not good either.
Thanks for photopea
also beware, spotify is NOT fully feature on Linux, jams are not supported the last time I checked a couple months ago, I had to join using my phone an then switch to my computer
I use Ubuntu and Spotify keeps nagging me about starting a jam whenever I open my podcast.
DHH apprentice
as soon as "SteamOS" is complete, i'll never touch windows again
Why? You can already do the same thing on any Linux distribution with Steam installed. SteamOS is basically just Steam with Arch Linux and gamescope integration. So what are you waiting for?
Until Firefox lets you add, remove, rotate, crop, and censor pages in PDFs it’s not a true preview alternative