This is what I don’t understand. Is it that the guy was soooo in love he was willing to take her back even though he knew he wasn’t her only guy? I don’t understand these people 🤦🏽♀️
@@nicoleajobo3415 He said it. He was scared he'd get the answer that he didn't want to hear. He was scared. She was showing all of the signs and he covered his eyes and plugged his ears.
More time means I'm waiting for the person I really want to ask me. She had someone else she was in love with. Never be a 2nd option, IJS. After 4yrs, it's time to move on.
The funny thing is believing that most guys are going to be their wives first choice. The best most can ask for is that they love you enough to give you peace and respect.
@ which is another argument against getting married being settled for does not war a lifetime, commitment, or more realistically till she decides to split and take half her stuff
I would 100% have bailed. She turned down the perfect rom-com proposal??? Heck, I didn't even have a ring when I proposed to my wife. I just rolled out of bed (naked), got down on my knees, clasped my hands and said "Will you marry me?" I had only gotten as far as "Will you. . " when she said "YES!" O_O 34 years together, 33 married.
Younger men need to learn the hard way. At least he didn't take her back and forgive her. Thats the guy that needs real help. OP learned a valuable lesson.
"There was 'yes, yes' in her eyes, but there was no nose on her face." -Groucho Marx. Also, "On the one hand, she was beautiful; on the other hand, she had a wart."
More like a whole bottle of fine wine/whiskey/tequila/gin whatever she likes. Anything he could buy would be cheaper than the divorce or even the wasted time waiting for a forever a few months away engagement.
It's cheaters that guilt trip their partner into this shit. The funny thing is the telltale combo of them cheating is them saying violating my privacy + you're controlling + they're just friends + I have the rights to have friends = sucking someone off.
It's a matter of etiquette. Searching somebody's phone, computer, tablet, etc. is kind of a breach of privacy, but to be fair, the PATRIOT Act of 2001 kind of nullified any expectation of privacy pertaining to digital communication, so it's a tough call. There's a difference between having your communications monitored by the NSA and somebody you're allegedly able to trust, though.
I guess because it’s like admitting you don’t trust your partner. A relationship is built on trust. If you believe your partner is cheating on you and you feel so sure you snoop, then that probably isn’t a good relationship. Of course, in this story he was completely justified because it turned out to be true, but in situations where it isn’t, I can see how the partner would feel offended and hurt that you’d think that about them to such an extent.
OP is hopeless. 1. She won't say yes. 2. He doesn't immediately create physical space (leave her there, kick her out, move in with a friend, block her, have his friends/family play interference) 3. His sister tells him exactly what's up and he doesn't immediately take steps to protect himself -- change passwords, secure assets, get off the lease/kick her out, etc. 4. He finds out she's cheating on him, yet is still talking to her, living with her, etc. He should have immediately informed her parents, friends, and both families, and straight up told her father to get her out of his life and if she, her friends, or any of her family say anything... the next guy who asks her to marry her (and his parents) will get copies of her text messages with her AP.
"I'm already stuck with you, dummy." Knowing what happened later, that had more truth than she'd been giving him than realized the whole time, and that's sad.
If she says she will cut things off with him- you should say don’t cut things off with him because we are done. You should make plans to move out. If you cave and take her back you will be cheated on sooner or later.
yes. one deserves no respect for accepting that "cutting him/her off" bs. there shouldn't be anything to cut off. only thought i had in this story: break up immediatly...or make the time count. be a selfish lover, get everything out of the "relationship" while it lasts. she will either leave for the other guy anyway..or as how many women strangely are, start "wanting" you when you treat them as lesser (happened to me while i was younger and an ahole), so when she tells op she is "ready" answer with "moving out because i don't see you as a girlfriend anymore since i discovered you are cheating? ok. bye"
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what it really means when a woman says she was confussed she did something wrong she knew it was wrong when she did it now she is trying to escape accountability
a clear sign these stories are fake (ai written) is that they just endlessly repeat the same story points over and over you'll hear the exact same phrases, issues, sentences come up over 10 times per story, which is why a 5 minute story suddenly becomes 30. This is one good example of it.
Yeah I don't know if I agree that you should divorce a cheating partner (certainly shouldn't be the default response imo), but if they cheated on you even before the ultimate commitment, then it's absolutely a no go, because you're just asking for failure later. If they can't keep it together when it's easy, why would they stick around when it's hard?
The fact that the MC of this story is so weak he sits and listens to his .. whatever she is at this point .. and listen to her complain about being cheated on by her fling holy god that woman would have been out the door ages ago
Look a tough guy who has all the answers. He was most likely stunned speechless on how monumentally stupid she is at that moment unknowingly confessing she was doing more than just being a friend with the AP.
This story has been out for a long time on TikTok for like nearly a year. And it’s always been that he heard his sister’s advice and broke up with her right then and there without evidence. He also talked to a brother about it but in this one it’s not mentioned. So on TikTok OP is just a guy who broke up with girlfriend without looking to see if it was true and kicked her out and blocked her as soon she left. So I’ve been debating of which one is the original story.
The part "i dont want to hear the answer" is "i know the answer but i rather live a comfy lie". Truth can hit like a truck but its better than knife stab to the heart everyday lying.
The biggest problem with betrayal is the way it makes you feel like you are being treated "differently." She doesn't have any problem knowing she wants to "hang out and explore" with him, but doesn't want to be with you. She is redirecting time and energy from you to him - let him have her. There's no reason to FIGHT over it, or "for the relationship" at that point - never be the "backup plan."
this phony AI generated drama was about three times longer than it should've been. she said that she needed more time to think after your marriage of the proposal... OP should've bounced. Ghosted & packed his shit and moved on
Until the end he was. Looks like he finally got his act together, though. Some people don't learn quickly, but as long as they learn, that's what matters most.
4:27 Yup she is cheating... She just doesnt want the other guy to find out... or maybe doesnt want her friends to find out who know about the affair and is not sure who might rat her out... 8:26 Manipulation tactic by her...
She should’ve realized that she didn’t want to be with him instead of being confused! Lame excuse! She should’ve had money enough from working to be able to get her own place! I can see why her parents and friends are fed up with her!
She's finally ready to commit when his replacement turned out to be a bust. It's honestly disheartening how widespread this mindset is among women nowadays.
Well done Bravo! No use hanging on for crumbs, have some dignity the same day and move on to better things. Most senior men and most women wth kids hang onto cheaters. It's just festing cancer relationship. Good luck with your future relationship OP
My sister is just like this guy's. One of the few times my sister is honest about how women are is when it comes to my dating life lol. She'd point the red flags out to me and was right about them too.
yeah, OP had more patience then me. If i asked someone to marry me and they just said "not yet" or "i need more time", i'd pretty much say "ok, were done". Also checking your parents phone doesn't mean you don't trust them.
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Dude,if you propose it is a yes or no. Not maybe. If it is a maybe or no,just end it and move on. She cheated and tried to monkey branch and ues,you were the safe back up plan. You should've ended it way earlier.
So much babbling and so little action. The simp is incapable of grabbing a phone and check for conversations. He deserves to be cheated when he is such an idiot.
Ime, she ignoring the fact she said she never did anything with him, just some flirting, then said "he was cheating in me to". That means she acknowledges she was having an affair. Fact he let it continue afyer he found out is dumb too
Why don't you talk to each other in a relationship? I'm also a girl, but I didn't know about the code. But ,right away, when I heard that she said she had to have time I immediately thought: oh, there's another guy. She cares about that one, not her current partner. Bad sign. I'm surprised that you were still together after that, but I understand that it's been a long time.
So many of these dudes are already lost before the story even begins. "We've been dating for 28576235 years..." hold up bro. That's it. It's already over. If you aren't ready to marry a girl way, way before you get to these 4-5 year numbers of dating, it's already a relationship you need to move on from.
He mistook her as having been sincere and honest with their talks. She wasnt but was wanting to keep stringing him along. She was strait up lieing right to his face about it to. Hey my no is really a yes just not really a yes kind of yes. Te he , I want to keep you around for now still though ..... The rest of her talk is a woman explaining why she has never been relationship material. She isnt committed to being his girlfriend. She rephrased it but yes admitted it even. That means open to other guy and combined with keeping her maybe backup plan around means she is monkey branching and isn't ready to jump loose yet. She a cheater, he was in heavy denial about it, no she couldnt be cheating cuz he tells himself she couldnt do that to him. Phone snoop and also look at her time on paycheck, was she actually working late or casual work date?
Yep, the worst they can say is that they will think about it or a pitty yes. A no is better to move on because even if it is a attention whore that wants you to keep begging you can tell yourself it's done and you do not engage in harrasment.
She said, "no," and then used emotional manipulation to keep him on the hook. And, of course she was seeing someone else. He needed to stop listening to her balderdash, take the ring back, and move on. But he let this drag on and on, even after discovering the truth. And she hadn't broken things off at all. He's just another pathetic simp who couldn't see the truth if it was tatooed on the palms of his hands.
Give yourself time to heal. Right now if you met the right one you might take your anger out on her. Don't do that. Start working out. Make friends with guys who might enjoy a camping partner. If you were a swimmer in high school then work out like that. Get a good bike and go bike riding in the country. Join a chess club and go to social gatherings. These are just a few things you could do. Good Luck.
Would you want to marry her after this. What happens when your marriage gets dull like everything does the excitement dulls down over time. Does this mean she goes back the this behavior instead of working on your relationship?
Even worse what happens once children gets involved? Okay relationships might not work out, its sad but you are both adults you´ll get over it. But once children are involved yeah splitting up the family, its not nice and even though you try your best it will effect your children´s lives.
Nope. Stop doing anything for her and treat her as a roommate, that's all she is til the lease is up. What happens if you marry her and she gets confused again. Done
That’s why I don’t believe in extravagant planned out proposals not saying it’s gonna be dull but it’s a waste of effort if u end up like this the moment she says no that’s thee end simple!The cheating just an extra at that point when he learned of it that no was definitive. And I’ll never understand why dude be feeling bad going. Through the phone after she gives you adequate suspicion to do so. you give me a reason to think you cheating I’m checking with zero guilt.
The time to mull over options is early in the dating stage. After your committed, doing so means your no longer committed and are treating your current SO as a joke. It's one thing to find someone else attractive, but considering leaving you for them is entirely another. Especially if your delay a proposal over it. She shouldn't entertain others in her heart by that point. By then it's over.
You make some solid points! Commitment should come with loyalty and respect, and it’s essential to be clear about intentions early on in a relationship.
Men need to do polygamy, monogamy is pointless and meaningless. What's the point in staying loyal to one woman if women can't be loyal to one man only?
Op was just torturing himself waiting for her to commit to marrying him. He really should have just broken it off once he had the talk with his sister. I am guessing she had already rven slept with the other guy when Op proposed to her. But, easy to judge when you're not in their shoes.
wahahah, do you honestly believe nothing happened? If a 5 year old partner suddenly needs time, and theres a third party involved, you can bet something has already happened .. In different places, in different positions, and in different holes .
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The moment she says no, the relationship is over. Move on.
This is what I don’t understand. Is it that the guy was soooo in love he was willing to take her back even though he knew he wasn’t her only guy? I don’t understand these people 🤦🏽♀️
This isn't always the case. But it is 99.99% of the time
Tell me no, it's time to go🤘
@@nicoleajobo3415 Because most dudes in few years relationship loose their spine and self respect.
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He said it. He was scared he'd get the answer that he didn't want to hear. He was scared. She was showing all of the signs and he covered his eyes and plugged his ears.
it's funny that she "finally ready" as soon as she got caught.
More time means I'm waiting for the person I really want to ask me. She had someone else she was in love with. Never be a 2nd option, IJS. After 4yrs, it's time to move on.
If you’re not the first choice, you’re the back up plan
The funny thing is believing that most guys are going to be their wives first choice. The best most can ask for is that they love you enough to give you peace and respect.
@ which is another argument against getting married being settled for does not war a lifetime, commitment, or more realistically till she decides to split and take half her stuff
what age is 20:07 am?
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She wasn't your girl. It was just your turn
Good sister. He owes her. She saved his life.
OP so dumb for not breaking up as soon as she said i need more time. That's a no, and you move along.
This. Op is a weak spineless B
I would 100% have bailed. She turned down the perfect rom-com proposal???
Heck, I didn't even have a ring when I proposed to my wife. I just rolled out of bed (naked), got down on my knees, clasped my hands and said "Will you marry me?" I had only gotten as far as "Will you. . " when she said "YES!" O_O 34 years together, 33 married.
Agree.
Younger men need to learn the hard way. At least he didn't take her back and forgive her. Thats the guy that needs real help.
OP learned a valuable lesson.
@@MarkStockman-b4jthat’s dreamwork right there man, happy for you 🎉
If a woman says no, that should be the last time she ever sees you again.
Way to miss the point entirely
@@hectormarquez2402 What point genius?
Depends if she still has stuff at your house. Or you have stuff st her house.
"There was 'yes, yes' in her eyes, but there was no nose on her face." -Groucho Marx.
Also, "On the one hand, she was beautiful; on the other hand, she had a wart."
This! That's how I operate now. I just don't think a marriage will work if the immediate decision is to say "No".
MC needs to buy his sister a beer as a thank you.
Maybe a bottle of Irish Whiskey,
🥃🍾🍺
More like a whole bottle of fine wine/whiskey/tequila/gin whatever she likes. Anything he could buy would be cheaper than the divorce or even the wasted time waiting for a forever a few months away engagement.
You're her backup plan, nothing more. Leave her.
Why do all of these OPs feel guilty for looking at their phones? So dumb.
It's interesting how societal expectations can make people feel guilty for something so common.
You can have my phon 😅
It's cheaters that guilt trip their partner into this shit. The funny thing is the telltale combo of them cheating is them saying violating my privacy + you're controlling + they're just friends + I have the rights to have friends = sucking someone off.
It's a matter of etiquette. Searching somebody's phone, computer, tablet, etc. is kind of a breach of privacy, but to be fair, the PATRIOT Act of 2001 kind of nullified any expectation of privacy pertaining to digital communication, so it's a tough call. There's a difference between having your communications monitored by the NSA and somebody you're allegedly able to trust, though.
I guess because it’s like admitting you don’t trust your partner. A relationship is built on trust. If you believe your partner is cheating on you and you feel so sure you snoop, then that probably isn’t a good relationship.
Of course, in this story he was completely justified because it turned out to be true, but in situations where it isn’t, I can see how the partner would feel offended and hurt that you’d think that about them to such an extent.
OP is hopeless.
1. She won't say yes.
2. He doesn't immediately create physical space (leave her there, kick her out, move in with a friend, block her, have his friends/family play interference)
3. His sister tells him exactly what's up and he doesn't immediately take steps to protect himself -- change passwords, secure assets, get off the lease/kick her out, etc.
4. He finds out she's cheating on him, yet is still talking to her, living with her, etc. He should have immediately informed her parents, friends, and both families, and straight up told her father to get her out of his life and if she, her friends, or any of her family say anything... the next guy who asks her to marry her (and his parents) will get copies of her text messages with her AP.
Men are thinking I want to be with her forever, women are thinking I guess I will be with him for now.
She is never yours. It's just your turn.
Switch genders and it still fits perfectly. People are people.
Used to be the other way around. Missing it?
Nothing kills love faster than betrayal.
OP, if your girlfriend doesn't know after 4 years together. Come on. She's stringing you along.
"I'm already stuck with you, dummy." Knowing what happened later, that had more truth than she'd been giving him than realized the whole time, and that's sad.
If it’s not a yes, it’s always a no
If she says she will cut things off with him- you should say don’t cut things off with him because we are done. You should make plans to move out. If you cave and take her back you will be cheated on sooner or later.
yes. one deserves no respect for accepting that "cutting him/her off" bs. there shouldn't be anything to cut off. only thought i had in this story: break up immediatly...or make the time count. be a selfish lover, get everything out of the "relationship" while it lasts. she will either leave for the other guy anyway..or as how many women strangely are, start "wanting" you when you treat them as lesser (happened to me while i was younger and an ahole), so when she tells op she is "ready" answer with "moving out because i don't see you as a girlfriend anymore since i discovered you are cheating? ok. bye"
"I need time". Aka, I have another guy I'm secretly seeing and want my options.
I am beginning to believe most women are like this: very good actresses.
There is a quote I picked up during the pandemic "She didn't change, she just stopped acting...."
I can't think of anything good or bad to say about Liz, this is the closest thing I can think of: "If you chase two rabbits, both will escape."
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He's lucky, she projected her move. I was involved with one who accepted the ring and I was still the backup plan.
OP should have told her to give her AP another chance seeing it’s not a big deal
It's true, sometimes taking a step back to reconsider can really help clarify things. Every situation deserves a second look!
what it really means when a woman says she was confussed
she did something wrong
she knew it was wrong when she did it
now she is trying to escape accountability
a clear sign these stories are fake (ai written) is that they just endlessly repeat the same story points over and over
you'll hear the exact same phrases, issues, sentences come up over 10 times per story, which is why a 5 minute story suddenly becomes 30.
This is one good example of it.
This story kept going and going and going. Either move out or kick her out when she said no to an proposal after 4 years.
Op is so lucky that his girlfriend said no to marry him he dodge a bullet by not marrying Liz because you never marry a cheater
Yeah I don't know if I agree that you should divorce a cheating partner (certainly shouldn't be the default response imo), but if they cheated on you even before the ultimate commitment, then it's absolutely a no go, because you're just asking for failure later.
If they can't keep it together when it's easy, why would they stick around when it's hard?
There was no reason to dig what so ever. She said no, you move on. Plain and simple.
Agreed. ANYTHING other than a "Yes" ends the relationship.
If you're her "final choice" I guarantee you her choice won't be final. At the reception she'll be scoping the room for better options.
The fact that the MC of this story is so weak he sits and listens to his .. whatever she is at this point .. and listen to her complain about being cheated on by her fling holy god that woman would have been out the door ages ago
Look a tough guy who has all the answers. He was most likely stunned speechless on how monumentally stupid she is at that moment unknowingly confessing she was doing more than just being a friend with the AP.
This story has been out for a long time on TikTok for like nearly a year. And it’s always been that he heard his sister’s advice and broke up with her right then and there without evidence. He also talked to a brother about it but in this one it’s not mentioned. So on TikTok OP is just a guy who broke up with girlfriend without looking to see if it was true and kicked her out and blocked her as soon she left. So I’ve been debating of which one is the original story.
The part "i dont want to hear the answer" is "i know the answer but i rather live a comfy lie".
Truth can hit like a truck but its better than knife stab to the heart everyday lying.
One important message in this story there is always a betrayal at the end of every time a male puts a female above himself.
You never put a woman above you, she will always look down on you
Wishing everyone watching will always be happy, healthy and happy in life!!!
Thank God for having caring sisters in your lives
For real. The man's sister is a real hero, and it's great that she was looking out for her bro. That's true family loyalty.
She was basically admitting to cheating when she said angrily “he was cheating too”.
A classic,
Once a cheater, always a cheater.
The biggest problem with betrayal is the way it makes you feel like you are being treated "differently." She doesn't have any problem knowing she wants to "hang out and explore" with him, but doesn't want to be with you. She is redirecting time and energy from you to him - let him have her. There's no reason to FIGHT over it, or "for the relationship" at that point - never be the "backup plan."
Bold of someone to propose to someone else without even having a marriage discussion with them
this phony AI generated drama was about three times longer than it should've been. she said that she needed more time to think after your marriage of the proposal... OP should've bounced.
Ghosted & packed his shit and moved on
This guy was such a wimp.
Until the end he was. Looks like he finally got his act together, though.
Some people don't learn quickly, but as long as they learn, that's what matters most.
Even her friend knew OP deserved someone better.
You were her spare. She was just wearing you out ... only to be replaced by the retread in the shop. 😅
He's a little slow but I understand the hesitation.
Thankfully he finally came to the right conclusion.
4:27 Yup she is cheating... She just doesnt want the other guy to find out... or maybe doesnt want her friends to find out who know about the affair and is not sure who might rat her out...
8:26 Manipulation tactic by her...
No means no. One way or another.
I need time simply means I want to keep my options open
Don’t let them tell you they don’t love you more than once.
She should’ve realized that she didn’t want to be with him instead of being confused! Lame excuse! She should’ve had money enough from working to be able to get her own place! I can see why her parents and friends are fed up with her!
She's finally ready to commit when his replacement turned out to be a bust. It's honestly disheartening how widespread this mindset is among women nowadays.
Man that entire time I kept thinking man why is she still in your life when she turned you down? 🤦♂️
Not a cheaters but i will cheat on op too. How can you stay 2 weeks after finding out she cheated on you. What a weak person. 🤔😑
Ah women and their kind hearted rejections.
Well done Bravo! No use hanging on for crumbs, have some dignity the same day and move on to better things. Most senior men and most women wth kids hang onto cheaters. It's just festing cancer relationship. Good luck with your future relationship OP
Hy are men in these stories so wishy washy. They don't even respect themselves
My sister is just like this guy's. One of the few times my sister is honest about how women are is when it comes to my dating life lol. She'd point the red flags out to me and was right about them too.
yeah, OP had more patience then me. If i asked someone to marry me and they just said "not yet" or "i need more time", i'd pretty much say "ok, were done". Also checking your parents phone doesn't mean you don't trust them.
Another FOMO queen
Liz: "I hope you find someone who can make you happy' OP: 'I did, but she doesn't exist anymore.'
People like Liz never change. Give her a few weeks and she'll find another simp to date/marry while she chases another Chad.
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does this guy have a phd in drawing out stories, holy cow. How many times do you repeat yourself here.
I could see if homegirl had a good reason, but she didn’t tell him anything… I’d be just preparing myself to have to move on.
OP is 20:07 a.m.? Ok 🤣
He's Cheating On Me!!!?!
Oh, really...how could "just a friend"
cheat on you? Get Out...NOW!!!
Dude,if you propose it is a yes or no. Not maybe. If it is a maybe or no,just end it and move on. She cheated and tried to monkey branch and ues,you were the safe back up plan. You should've ended it way earlier.
High school kid mentality, I can use this one while I look for someone else.
Lucky man, he dodged the bullet.
So much babbling and so little action. The simp is incapable of grabbing a phone and check for conversations. He deserves to be cheated when he is such an idiot.
The way you describe the sister - why not go to her first thing for advice?
Ime, she ignoring the fact she said she never did anything with him, just some flirting, then said "he was cheating in me to". That means she acknowledges she was having an affair. Fact he let it continue afyer he found out is dumb too
I hate simp man ! As a man I hate OP with passion that he was clueless & dragging time... To be honest, he deserved to be cheated. Goodbye fella 👋
Why don't you talk to each other in a relationship? I'm also a girl, but I didn't know about the code. But ,right away, when I heard that she said she had to have time I immediately thought: oh, there's another guy. She cares about that one, not her current partner.
Bad sign. I'm surprised that you were still together after that, but I understand that it's been a long time.
So many of these dudes are already lost before the story even begins.
"We've been dating for 28576235 years..." hold up bro. That's it. It's already over. If you aren't ready to marry a girl way, way before you get to these 4-5 year numbers of dating, it's already a relationship you need to move on from.
Ladies i'm curious is it really girl code
I would have needed that sister when in my 20s.
Better you learn now, as opposed to marrying her and finding out your kids aren’t yours she married for security and never loved you
He mistook her as having been sincere and honest with their talks. She wasnt but was wanting to keep stringing him along.
She was strait up lieing right to his face about it to. Hey my no is really a yes just not really a yes kind of yes. Te he , I want to keep you around for now still though .....
The rest of her talk is a woman explaining why she has never been relationship material. She isnt committed to being his girlfriend. She rephrased it but yes admitted it even. That means open to other guy and combined with keeping her maybe backup plan around means she is monkey branching and isn't ready to jump loose yet.
She a cheater, he was in heavy denial about it, no she couldnt be cheating cuz he tells himself she couldnt do that to him.
Phone snoop and also look at her time on paycheck, was she actually working late or casual work date?
She just wants a safety net - LEAVE !
Unless you are a brad pitt or Leo, you are always the backup plan.
I do not understand why this is so difficult; if you’re good for her and everything seems nice, run. That is a romcom and those aren’t real.
After no to marriage proposal relationship one step away from crashing and burning
OP was a side piece.
His girlfriend wanted to check with her main guy to see if he was serious about getting married first. Before she settled😂
Yep, the worst they can say is that they will think about it or a pitty yes. A no is better to move on because even if it is a attention whore that wants you to keep begging you can tell yourself it's done and you do not engage in harrasment.
This is why I'm 1,000% against public proposals. I want there to be no pressure.
If you get a "maybe" after 4 years, just walk. They're not that into you.
She's going to end things that she should never start
She said, "no," and then used emotional manipulation to keep him on the hook. And, of course she was seeing someone else. He needed to stop listening to her balderdash, take the ring back, and move on. But he let this drag on and on, even after discovering the truth. And she hadn't broken things off at all. He's just another pathetic simp who couldn't see the truth if it was tatooed on the palms of his hands.
OP being so weak and pathetic that he "feels gross" for looking at her phone
Give yourself time to heal. Right now if you met the right one you might take your anger out on her. Don't do that. Start working out. Make friends with guys who might enjoy a camping partner. If you were a swimmer in high school then work out like that. Get a good bike and go bike riding in the country. Join a chess club and go to social gatherings. These are just a few things you could do. Good Luck.
OP you own your sister a beer bro.
Dodged a bullet.
Some guys are so stupid and weak they deserve to be cheated on.
Would you want to marry her after this. What happens when your marriage gets dull like everything does the excitement dulls down over time. Does this mean she goes back the this behavior instead of working on your relationship?
Totally get where you’re coming from! Relationships can get a bit boring if you don’t keep things fresh. Just gotta keep the fun vibes rolling!
Even worse what happens once children gets involved?
Okay relationships might not work out, its sad but you are both adults you´ll get over it.
But once children are involved yeah splitting up the family, its not nice and even though you try your best it will effect your children´s lives.
Isn’t she working? Surely she have enough to rent a place
Nope. Stop doing anything for her and treat her as a roommate, that's all she is til the lease is up. What happens if you marry her and she gets confused again. Done
If she doesn't say yes, leave her. Don't be a pansy
Another simp. And going through her phone was perfectly justified.
That’s why I don’t believe in extravagant planned out proposals not saying it’s gonna be dull but it’s a waste of effort if u end up like this the moment she says no that’s thee end simple!The cheating just an extra at that point when he learned of it that no was definitive. And I’ll never understand why dude be feeling bad going. Through the phone after she gives you adequate suspicion to do so. you give me a reason to think you cheating I’m checking with zero guilt.
The time to mull over options is early in the dating stage. After your committed, doing so means your no longer committed and are treating your current SO as a joke. It's one thing to find someone else attractive, but considering leaving you for them is entirely another. Especially if your delay a proposal over it. She shouldn't entertain others in her heart by that point. By then it's over.
You make some solid points! Commitment should come with loyalty and respect, and it’s essential to be clear about intentions early on in a relationship.
Men need to do polygamy, monogamy is pointless and meaningless. What's the point in staying loyal to one woman if women can't be loyal to one man only?
She's only sure now because her affair didn't work out. It's also kinda funny that she still expected to live with you after all of this
Tbh i was thinking it could be salvageable until 23:40 how could she be so stupid to share this?
Well Ap got away with everything, and probably will have a normal life.
Op was just torturing himself waiting for her to commit to marrying him. He really should have just broken it off once he had the talk with his sister. I am guessing she had already rven slept with the other guy when Op proposed to her. But, easy to judge when you're not in their shoes.
wahahah, do you honestly believe nothing happened? If a 5 year old partner suddenly needs time, and theres a third party involved, you can bet something has already happened .. In different places, in different positions, and in different holes .
27 yr old male not 20:07 am🤦🏻♀️for gods sake show a little effort to make it better
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