I saw Dennis’ review of the original T square and thought it was great that Hongdui acted upon his feedback and the flaws and limitations he identified. The resultant HoW edition is indeed a tool of beauty, very nice indeed. Thanks for the review Stuart
Thank you mate. Yeah, I think Dennis did a great job presenting flaws in the orig6and recommending improvements. That Hongdui took them on board is great. Similar to their colab with Katz-Moses on the router plane. It's seems good way of working. 👍
Commendably honest review! Also, as you say, great credit to both Dennis and Hongdui. Refreshing these days to see companies willing to take advice/suggestions on board.
Good honest review Stew, I saw Dennis’s original videos and was impressed with the way they took his comments on board 👍. I bought the much cheaper Veiko T600 a few months ago and am very happy with it 😁.
Nice one mate. Nothing wrong with the veiko. Very good for the money. I can see how this one with the drill guides could be useful for fitters and cabinet makers but definitely a luxury tool.👍
It's a beautiful thing. To be honest though, if you just want a good quality T-square, check out the Veiko branded offerings on banggood. They do small and large ones. A 600mm will cost just under £50 inc postage. Its a much better buy if you just need a large t-square. The Enjoywood ones are OK too. These Hongdui ones (they do shorter ones now as well) are only worth it if you genuinely need the features offered outside of being a t-square. 👍
Cheers bud. I wouldn't say it had issues so much as I thought some of the claims were exaggerated. Hopefully this gives a better idea of what to expect. It is still a great bit of kit. 👍
Nice one mate. Hope it serves you well. Loving mine for laying out larger slabs. Recommend having somewhere on the wall for it or some such. Big old thing to have knocking round the bench and risk damaging the rule.👍
Great review, Stew - as always very thorough. Re the tool free release / slight wiggle room. If you square it up properly when refastening the latch, is it likely to drift slightly out of square if it gets a few knocks, given that it seems to be relying entirely on the clamping action to hold the two pieces together?
Thank you mate. Good question. It's not something I've noticed. The clamping pressure is very strong but, if knocked I suppose the possibility is there. I admit to babying it though. Like, I take it off the wall unit, mark out, then it goes straight back on the wall. It's both too big to have lingering on my benches and, I'm too fearful of damaging the rule to risk knocking it around. I really like having it around for laying out larger slabs and don't want have to pay for a replacement by abusing it!
Thanks for the video, been eyeing up the router plane this week since i watched your video on it, already looks a handy price for 117 but might as well wait and see i guess!
Cheers. That's already a great price for it. The "pro" version with the depth stop is the one to get. So nice having that feature. Interested to see if it gets any cheaper in the sale!👍
Great review as usual, this is for sure a Trophy tool for most hobby Woodworkers, but does look like something Thor himself would hold. Does some to have a major price hike for the tweaks they did after feedback from Dennis. Would love to see a smaller 400mm version, with matching price.
Cheers mate. Yeah, more a nice to have but, is a great tool. Once you add the extra couple of guides and the quick release mech, the price hike is about right I think. Like I say though, folk could just buy the OG version and add guides as needed if they can live without quick release. 👍
@@BischBaschBosch Hi yes on the price I was referring to the current selling price €65 is the best price today for the old version versus €145 for the HoW version. I cannot see a way to justify more than double the price. I guess one is just reduced to clear.
Happy to see an independent review. Have you used the HONGDUI MT-2465 ? For 35$ you can add the extra scribe and drill guide. Are the larger holes and fast realease on the HoW version worh the extra 45$ in your opinion?
Cheers. I think when you add the extra scribe and drill guide, plus the quick release, the HoW Pro version is good value. The trammel function is genuinely useful and so, tool free separation is very worthwhile having. 👍
Could you use this square to create the locating MFT holes in a work bench? Follow up with a 20 mm forsner bit on a drill press. That might be a popular video!
For laying it out and doing 3mm pre holes, sure. Problem with using a 20mm forstner is they're 20mm. Dogs tend to be a 10th or so smaller so a bit loose in a 20mm hole. The ujk drill bit for mft's is a fraction smaller to allow for this. I'm not massively sold on home made mft's tbh. They need to be bang on to work properly. Cnc'd ones from bog standard mdf are only 50 quid or so. You're right though. Would probably be a popular vid. Just can't bring myself to so a how-to for something I'd never do myself.🤷♂️👍
@@petermchenry8185 Ah I see. For a few holes, it'd be ideal. I was just concerned if you wanted a fence and rail system via dog holes. Can't beat cnc accuracy for that. I did hand drill a couple of rows for my solid wood bench for use with the front vise. I could extend those rows as a demo perhaps 👍
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I saw Dennis’ review of the original T square and thought it was great that Hongdui acted upon his feedback and the flaws and limitations he identified. The resultant HoW edition is indeed a tool of beauty, very nice indeed. Thanks for the review Stuart
Thank you mate. Yeah, I think Dennis did a great job presenting flaws in the orig6and recommending improvements. That Hongdui took them on board is great. Similar to their colab with Katz-Moses on the router plane. It's seems good way of working. 👍
Commendably honest review!
Also, as you say, great credit to both Dennis and Hongdui. Refreshing these days to see companies willing to take advice/suggestions on board.
Thanks mate. Yeah, I've noticed on Hongdui site they encourage outreach. Seems they're true to it. Input from Dennis definitely improved it.👍
Good honest review Stew, I saw Dennis’s original videos and was impressed with the way they took his comments on board 👍.
I bought the much cheaper Veiko T600 a few months ago and am very happy with it 😁.
Nice one mate. Nothing wrong with the veiko. Very good for the money. I can see how this one with the drill guides could be useful for fitters and cabinet makers but definitely a luxury tool.👍
Nice T square with all the bells and whistles! I will have to budget this one as it is pricey!
It's a beautiful thing. To be honest though, if you just want a good quality T-square, check out the Veiko branded offerings on banggood. They do small and large ones. A 600mm will cost just under £50 inc postage. Its a much better buy if you just need a large t-square. The Enjoywood ones are OK too. These Hongdui ones (they do shorter ones now as well) are only worth it if you genuinely need the features offered outside of being a t-square. 👍
An honest assessment, well done Stew. A few issues to be aware of but still an excellent piece of kit. Now where is my credit card!
Cheers bud. I wouldn't say it had issues so much as I thought some of the claims were exaggerated. Hopefully this gives a better idea of what to expect. It is still a great bit of kit. 👍
Great review, thank you.
Just ordered one in the sale. I have a few Hongdui tools, absolute jewels each of them.
Ken from Southport UK
Nice one mate. Hope it serves you well. Loving mine for laying out larger slabs. Recommend having somewhere on the wall for it or some such. Big old thing to have knocking round the bench and risk damaging the rule.👍
Awesome review, man! Thanks a bunch! 😊
They make some pretty nice tools indeed!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks mate. They do. Hope they continue.👍
Great review, Stew - as always very thorough.
Re the tool free release / slight wiggle room. If you square it up properly when refastening the latch, is it likely to drift slightly out of square if it gets a few knocks, given that it seems to be relying entirely on the clamping action to hold the two pieces together?
Thank you mate. Good question. It's not something I've noticed. The clamping pressure is very strong but, if knocked I suppose the possibility is there. I admit to babying it though. Like, I take it off the wall unit, mark out, then it goes straight back on the wall. It's both too big to have lingering on my benches and, I'm too fearful of damaging the rule to risk knocking it around. I really like having it around for laying out larger slabs and don't want have to pay for a replacement by abusing it!
Thanks for the video, been eyeing up the router plane this week since i watched your video on it, already looks a handy price for 117 but might as well wait and see i guess!
Cheers. That's already a great price for it. The "pro" version with the depth stop is the one to get. So nice having that feature. Interested to see if it gets any cheaper in the sale!👍
@@BischBaschBosch yes, hard to imagine it being cheaper than it already is tbh, I'll cross my fingers though
Great review as usual, this is for sure a Trophy tool for most hobby Woodworkers, but does look like something Thor himself would hold. Does some to have a major price hike for the tweaks they did after feedback from Dennis. Would love to see a smaller 400mm version, with matching price.
Cheers mate. Yeah, more a nice to have but, is a great tool. Once you add the extra couple of guides and the quick release mech, the price hike is about right I think. Like I say though, folk could just buy the OG version and add guides as needed if they can live without quick release. 👍
@@BischBaschBosch Hi yes on the price I was referring to the current selling price €65 is the best price today for the old version versus €145 for the HoW version. I cannot see a way to justify more than double the price. I guess one is just reduced to clear.
@@garyhenderson9303 Wow. Didn't realise they'd reduced the original by that much! You might be right - clearance of old stock🤷♂️
Thanks for the great review
Thank you😁👍
Happy to see an independent review. Have you used the HONGDUI MT-2465 ? For 35$ you can add the extra scribe and drill guide. Are the larger holes and fast realease on the HoW version worh the extra 45$ in your opinion?
Cheers. I think when you add the extra scribe and drill guide, plus the quick release, the HoW Pro version is good value. The trammel function is genuinely useful and so, tool free separation is very worthwhile having. 👍
Oh, and sorry no. Haven't tried the standard MT-2465.
Could you use this square to create the locating MFT holes in a work bench? Follow up with a 20 mm forsner bit on a drill press. That might be a popular video!
For laying it out and doing 3mm pre holes, sure. Problem with using a 20mm forstner is they're 20mm. Dogs tend to be a 10th or so smaller so a bit loose in a 20mm hole. The ujk drill bit for mft's is a fraction smaller to allow for this. I'm not massively sold on home made mft's tbh. They need to be bang on to work properly. Cnc'd ones from bog standard mdf are only 50 quid or so. You're right though. Would probably be a popular vid. Just can't bring myself to so a how-to for something I'd never do myself.🤷♂️👍
@@BischBaschBoschI don't want a full MFT MDF. I am considering a few rows on my work table. In USA I have found very high pricing for MFT MDF boards.
@@petermchenry8185 Ah I see. For a few holes, it'd be ideal. I was just concerned if you wanted a fence and rail system via dog holes. Can't beat cnc accuracy for that. I did hand drill a couple of rows for my solid wood bench for use with the front vise. I could extend those rows as a demo perhaps 👍
Nice review
Cheers 👍
👍👍👍. Thank you
Cheers 🙌😁
Would you be giving this away?
Not this one mate. I can make use of it in my work.