Christian Civ politics, nationalism, fascism - "other" disgust?, Restorationism, Trump for clicks
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024
- Still riffing on Paul Kingsnorth's talk and adding in some Vesper Stamper (member's only) from @paulvanderklay on Orthodoxy, Constantine/Byzantine fetishization, etc.
1:28:00
Chad!
"All mirrors are magic mirrors. The commonest room is a room in a poem when I turn to the glass...There must be a truth involved in it, though we may but in part lay hold of the meaning.”
- George MacDonald
I think there is an old video on my channel where we tried talking about mirrors. Going through the looking glass. Its a pool of still water, like a well, and you can go through it to another world. Especially if it takes a common room and makes it poetic, then just let you mind enter the glass and see what it becomes.
Magic Mirrors, Natalie, Craig, John and Luke, 7-6-22
ruclips.net/video/YaQPYcQn7og/видео.html
Don’t remember at all what we said though…
1:34:00
This is why we will judge angels. We should forgive. If you could impart forgiveness into the technology, then it would become a "living being". You would give it the "life giving spirit". The problem is that no one wants to give their life for technology.
Will AI become a conscious living thing? Possibly, if we could give our lives to (and for) it. But who really wants to go there? Who really wants to be one with the spirit of God? How much does God give of himself? How much can we?
It would require a confrontation with oblivion.
How much have we forgotten God? Does God exist? He does and He doesn't.
Its just a creature and creator relationship. And the whole creation is groaning, waiting for the Sons of God.
If we desire a new creation, it requires the death of our image (for the resurrection of it - but God has no form -), and blood.
Also to Chris's point, the willful imparting of "good intentions" or "morals" is just transactional and dead. I think Luke would say that it is "mammonistic".
The impartation must be "life". Unconditional love. The technology can react in whatever moral way it chooses, because there is a unconditional, life-giving, forgiving spirit, that was laid at its foundation, and surrounds its every deed.
"But what remains for the cold gray soul
That mourns like a wounded dove?
One wine is left in the broken bowl
Tis to love, and love, and love."
- George MacDonald
Fantastic glimpses of insights specially at the end of this stream …the Jewish …Old Testament perspective trough Chezis perspective ..summary 🧡🙏🏼
1:41:15
"Order can be set upon this tohu va bohu nature."
Behemoth and Leviathan.
YES. This is truth and mercy. God on the mercy seat (the ark of the covenant). The atonement seat (atonement - pitch - covering).
This is Christ (the logos) seated on Mary's lap.
This is Song of Songs.
This is Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.
This is the "answer" that comes from the "question", and enters into the "question" again.
Order is covered with the skin of leviathan. The feminine is veiled. Both the harlot and the virgin. This is beautiful.
Bull-headed minotaur.
1:13:50 "You're a little more bullish on this topic."
Centaur has a human head, horse body. "If you have run with the footmen and it wearied you, how can you contend with horses?"
1:34:30
I wonder if Chris knows that he is speaking of angels here? I think at least in the way that most people view angels. It was designed for a specific purpose or function. A principality and power.
God says to the principality of Assyria,
“Did you not hear long ago
How I made it,
From ancient times that I formed it?
Now I have brought it to pass,
That you should be
For crushing fortified cities into heaps of ruins."
But how could the principality be transformed, or glorified, or in its proper place? When the Sons of God are revealed, and they judge the entire creation of God, sitting on thrones of mercy.
Live stream over, I can comment now! and I don't have to keep sending you a ton of comments in signal....
Either way is great. But your insights are so good, might as well make them public.😊