Kershaw Federalist Folding Knife - Overview and Review

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024

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  • @metal_complex
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  • @knownaigm
    @knownaigm 2 года назад +16

    I'm a huge diehard old school traditional slipjoint guy and I actually think Kershaw hit a home run with this thing. Perfect aesthetic melding of modern and traditional and I like the double detent BECAUSE it's not just another normal slippy. On top of that I really like that they kept it super thin and I love that they DID NOT do a pocket clip.... really leaning into the concept of the knife being compact, thin, super carryable, and a slicing machine. Round of applause from me at least. Great overview by the way!

    • @xPumaFangx
      @xPumaFangx Год назад

      I love this knife. It is my carry knife right now. I hope to never own a different knife.
      With that said I dislike traditional slip joints.
      The thing is this knife solves everything I dislike about traditional slip joints. The size and the pull. I like a long knife. I like a very light pull. Nail nicks are annoying.
      This is a back pocket knife for me. Taking it out and flicking it open one handed. Closing it one handed. Is great. The steel is well kind of well.
      OMG! good.

    • @ImageLoX
      @ImageLoX Месяц назад +1

      I’m with you on diehard traditional carry. I have a massive modern folder collection but I rarely carry them. Aside from CRKs. I basically carry traditionals and fixed blades. My traditional collection is triple my modern collection. And I love what Kershaw did with this knife. I bought 2. As far as the putting pressure on the spine comment, that’s usually someone who doesn’t understand traditional knives. Overall, it’s a great design. My only complaint is the pull being on the lighter side but that’s due to no back spring.

  • @joeisabella6811
    @joeisabella6811 2 года назад +11

    Nail nicks remind me of childhood and that first knife that was yours. The start of a life long interest and the first of a collection not imagined even yet. I'll always have a soft spot for simple things doing exactly what they have been doing since before my time and will long after I'm gone, like a pocket knife just being ,quite literally ,a pocket knife. Thanks for a good review per usual!

  • @franksalem8580
    @franksalem8580 2 года назад +10

    I bought it because it didn't have a pocket clip. It is light and thin and settles nicely in the bottom of your pocket. I like that you can open it by pinching the blade instead of using the nail nick and I like the look and feel of it. I had just promised myself that I was not going to buy anymore Kershaws and then this came along. I really like it.

  • @jonathancupp3686
    @jonathancupp3686 2 года назад +23

    That’s always been known as a nail nick! Whether I am correct or not, anyone who calls it something else is just plain wrong! 😄

  • @trumpetreneau
    @trumpetreneau 10 месяцев назад +1

    I just picked one of these up at the KAI/Kershaw/ZT Warehouse Sale for $60. Absolutely love it so far! No pocket clip on a modern traditional totally makes sense to me. I have plenty of other knives with clips. Double detent doesn’t bother me at all, either. I picked up a Kershaw Culpepper for $12, too. Excellent stuff!

  • @RyGuy_1776
    @RyGuy_1776 2 года назад +5

    I actually was really excited for this knife when it was released, and I haven't bought a Kershaw since I was buying cheap budget knives at the very beginning of my knife "journey". This one is classy though. I definitely wish there was a clip on it but otherwise honestly I think this is a great knife from Kershaw all things considered.
    I'm pretty okay with carrying small knives loosely in the pocket but only when I HAVE to. I don't do it often. I'm sure others know what im talking about, but I hate when the knife turns sideways at the bottom of your pocket and you sit or bend down, and boom its just a horizontal bulge in your pocket 😂

    • @JustIn-op6oy
      @JustIn-op6oy 2 года назад +2

      You ever try using a leather pocket slip? I've made a few for a buddy who also can't stand having a knife loose in his pocket. You could even go the route of a slip that has a pocket clip to keep everything in its place.

    • @RyGuy_1776
      @RyGuy_1776 2 года назад +1

      @@JustIn-op6oy I've done it with fixed blades but never a slip joint, let alone any folder for that matter. If it was something like a custom slip joint I'd probably most definitely go with a pocket slip or sheath!

  • @coryhall561
    @coryhall561 2 года назад +1

    With a pocket clip that would definitely be the sweetest modern traditional I’ve seen

  • @bwd8664
    @bwd8664 2 года назад +4

    This one really is so close, an inset liner lock or regular slip joint and a wire pocket clip would make this a real winner for Kershaw I think. Really like the design language overall though.

    • @billybob-gb6ol
      @billybob-gb6ol 2 года назад +1

      I just over paid for one through Snap on and guy said he's sold 6 in the last seven days because of the lack of pocket clip
      Im probably gonna get a custom leather belt holster for it

  • @jasondemers4389
    @jasondemers4389 2 месяца назад

    I'm a knife junkie and this came up as a Kershaw USA discontinued one for 50.00 free shipping. im more of an assist foldable but this one feels super nice in the hand. i think its more a scout knife than anything. but it is very nicely built and put together

  • @j.w.greenbaum
    @j.w.greenbaum 2 года назад +4

    "Other [modern] slipjoints, even foreign made, are usually priced higher."
    This, I am certain, is why it has the double dent. Kershaw realized that if they dialed in the detent JUST right, they could at the very least get it to open a lot like true slippy, if not close like a true slippy. Hence why you have the half stop and why the PB washers are really tight. Kershaw wanted something to compete with the Benchmade Proper and to undercut the price, and IMO, they did a good job with what they had, good steel, better ergos (not even close), and better blade geometry. I CANNOT say the same for their advertising department. Rather than emphasize "we made a double dent knife that's very near the feel of a true slippy!", ALL they emphasized was the double dent (and being US-made, which is totally fine).
    Thing is, up until the Federalist, double dent and detent knives are generally thought of as either fidget knives (Monterrey Bay Knives EWC, CIVIVI Ki-V, Isham Blackstar V2, CIVIVI Ferrum Forge Stylum) or outright finger choppers (the CIVIVI Appalachian Drifter, which I'm only cutting cereal boxes and tape with...). By bashing you over the head in advertising with "we made a US-made double dent knife!", rather than creating a simulated slippy that can be maintained more easily and shoot for the slipjoint demographic for a knife you may want to be able to beat on and then take apart with comparatively minimal effort, they seem to be attracting A LOT of the double dent fidget knife crowd, which is now complaining the knife is not fidget-friendly enough. This is sorta like a brewing company creating a near-beer and then emphasizing absolutely nothing pertaining to its flavor or how close it is to an alcoholic beer and just repeating over and over that it brewed a near-beer.
    As has been pointed out, G-10, CF, and even full Ti versions of this knife are at least hypothetically possible with all kinds of backspacer combos...and I'd love to see that, especially since in under two weeks, one of these knives is going to be mine (the local guy who collects traditionals got one when they first dropped and I got to handle to it and Rob's review over at TheApostleP completely sold me). Problem is, if I had never handled this knife, I'd just look at Kershaw's "we don't know how to sell our own knife!" marketing and think "fidget gimmick", and then never take another look at the knife. Dear Kershaw, since you provided MC one of these: PLEASE stop saying "we made a double-dent knife!" and maybe replace it with "the feel of a traditional slipjoint with the ease of maintenance of a double-dent!"

  • @dcjr1053
    @dcjr1053 Год назад +2

    I like that there is no clip. I have had bad luck with the clip catching of something and sending the knife on to the floor or dangling from a jacket. Those jackets with elastic/adjustable cords are especially bad. This is my experience anyway. I know most people like clips.

  • @BrandonGavin_EDC
    @BrandonGavin_EDC 2 года назад +5

    I think this knife is dope. Kershaw should do more like it.

  • @IlliniDog01
    @IlliniDog01 2 года назад +1

    Seems like a cool little knife. I can think of several people I know who would probably prefer a simple classic knife like this.

  • @jaybloodypurchase8868
    @jaybloodypurchase8868 2 года назад +11

    What I'd like is something similar to this with a wire clip.
    Can you recommend something?
    Why do manufacturers think that because it's a modern slip joint that people don't want pocket clips? It baffles me.

    • @Lardman678
      @Lardman678 2 года назад +9

      It's definitely on the premium end, but the Quietcarry West is a slip joint nail nick knife with a wire clip.

    • @jdisdetermined
      @jdisdetermined 2 года назад

      Quietcarry makes amazing stuff. Kind of a "budget" Holt vibe.

    • @jjabberjaw8822
      @jjabberjaw8822 2 года назад +1

      Giantmouse Farley. It was just released on their website last week.
      It's noticeably more expensive, but it comes in brass or green micarta, and both options have a reversible wire clip.
      Edit: it's available at at least a few knife retailers.

    • @jaybloodypurchase8868
      @jaybloodypurchase8868 2 года назад +1

      @@jjabberjaw8822 excellent, that is just what I was looking for. Many thanks

    • @jjabberjaw8822
      @jjabberjaw8822 2 года назад +2

      @@jaybloodypurchase8868 No problem, I'm glad I could help. I ordered one yesterday and im pretty excited to get it.

  • @superrad1659
    @superrad1659 2 года назад +3

    If they had made the Federalist a true slippy, or better yet a liner lock, I would like it a lot more. Love the aesthetic, micarta looks nice... just not sure about double detents, never seen one before. They just dont seem secure enuf for anything beyond opening mail. But what do I know, Ive never handled one lol.

  • @d3adshot859
    @d3adshot859 2 года назад +1

    The gipping actually helps ur thumb from sliding up the blade to far and pushing it unlocked if there was none ur thumb would slide up back of blade easier

  • @byronkennedy7912
    @byronkennedy7912 2 года назад +1

    MC loves lanyard holes! ... MC loves lanyard holes! ... I knew it, just knew it! ... It just took the right so-so knife for him to admit! Thanks for the share/review 😜 .

  • @bionick4281
    @bionick4281 2 года назад +2

    I would be so much happier if this knife had a pocket clip, and the double detent doesn’t make sense to me either! As far as materials, 🤞🏻 that Kershaw uses CPM-154/154CM and micarta on more knives going forward!

  • @justadudeintheworldman.120
    @justadudeintheworldman.120 2 года назад +8

    I like the looks of it but not for $110

  • @scottyh.6992
    @scottyh.6992 2 года назад +1

    I agree, a clip option would have been nice. Someone can always remove it if they don't want it on. I still think it is a nice knife. I have always liked the USA Kershaws.

  • @WilliamsKnifeLife
    @WilliamsKnifeLife 2 года назад +1

    I think that is where companies trying to do a modern traditional mess up, by leaving off the pocket clip. A pocket clip made carrying pocket knives easier. You can't get much more modern than a pocket clip. 1981 Spyderco.

    • @jdisdetermined
      @jdisdetermined 2 года назад

      Was that the first pocket clip knife? On a Spyderco in 1981?

  • @wasawasablingbling
    @wasawasablingbling 2 года назад +2

    I picked up a Viper knives Hug in full textured ti and m390 recently. Pretty awesome for the price

  • @charlesperry1051
    @charlesperry1051 2 года назад

    I may have to buy one of those. I generally like Kershaw knives. I have a Chive that I have carried backpacking since 2009. It has to have over a thousand miles on it!

  • @matsherwood6277
    @matsherwood6277 2 года назад +1

    Whew. I thought you were talking about my carry until you started talking about grappling hooks. 😅

  • @HeyItsCoates
    @HeyItsCoates 2 года назад +1

    I've kinda stepped away from the more budget side of Kershaw, but this is very enticing. I'd be placing an order on BHQ if it had a clip.

  • @josephpardue6277
    @josephpardue6277 2 года назад +1

    MC, you need to review the Doug Ritter Mini-RSK® MK1-G2 Knifeworks Exclusive - G-Mascus® Red G-10/Stonewashed. I love mine and it is better than any variety of Benchmade Bugout with similar size .

  • @Mettle_DAD
    @Mettle_DAD 6 месяцев назад

    I think the jimping is more so you feel if you've accidentally put your thumb up to far. Kinda like rumble strips

  • @jimrowland6089
    @jimrowland6089 2 года назад

    I like it. Maybe the next one will be a fidget flipper with a pocket clip but I would prefer a slip joint without the flip and the clip.

  • @Amoroso-Arm-Wrestling
    @Amoroso-Arm-Wrestling 2 года назад

    Question! If you had $300 to spend on a every day carry knife what would you buy??

  • @JustIn-op6oy
    @JustIn-op6oy 2 года назад +1

    Is it really even appropriate to call a double detent setup a slipjoint? I was of the understanding that a slipjoint specifically requires a backspring and the interface of that spring with the pivot area of the blade is where the name "slipjoint" comes from.
    I would call this a modern traditional non-locking knife.

  • @brandontaylor2750
    @brandontaylor2750 2 года назад

    I really like the overall design of this knife, but I do wish it had a pocket clip and a either a traditional slip joint mechanism or liner lock. I think the light pull is a good idea, but there should be more force keeping the blade open. If they integrated a minimal but secure liner lock mechanism into one of the steel liners I would buy one. Keeping it manual with the washers is fine.

  • @PeepsBucket
    @PeepsBucket 2 года назад +4

    I think the false slipjoint design they used on this knife would be easier to service and repair than a true slipjoint. That may have at least been part of the motivation for their design decision.

    • @JustIn-op6oy
      @JustIn-op6oy 2 года назад

      There really isn't much to maintaining a traditional slipjoint. If the pivot gets gunked up, a thorough spray down with penetrating oil and blowing everything out with compressed air will usually resolve it.

    • @PeepsBucket
      @PeepsBucket 2 года назад

      @@JustIn-op6oyYou're right, slipjoint maintenance isn't that difficult if you treat your knife well. But once it stops locking up - that's when the problems start. Kai USA actually doesn't have the equipment/parts to repair slipjoint knives that have stopped locking up, so they would have to replace them outright if customers complained. However, they do have the the equipment/parts to repair lockbar knives. I'm pretty sure that's also another reason why they went for this design - every other knife made on their USA production line is either a framelock, liner lock, or button lock knife. Introducing a single slipjoint would require them to majorly revamp their production line with new equipment and employee training. It's too much of an investment for a single model of knife. I think that's why all of their current production slipjoints are Chinese made.

  • @taylormorris4343
    @taylormorris4343 2 года назад

    The snap open and closed is referred to as "walk and talk" and yes so satisfying on traditionals lol. I really liked this design but couldn't believe they didn't put a pocket clip on it... so I passed on it.

  • @oliver6able
    @oliver6able 2 года назад

    Wouldn’t the jimping help in keeping the thumb from sliding forward when the blade is cutting through material. If you own a slip joint and are confused by jimping then you probably shouldn’t own a knife.

  • @mnelson0533
    @mnelson0533 2 года назад

    The only real slip joint I use is an Alox Pioneer X, and it's more of a jacket-pocket scissors and bottle opener for me however I would be remiss if I didn't say that snap is oh so oddly satisfying particularly on the extra heavy Alox stuff.

  • @ronaldbarnes8302
    @ronaldbarnes8302 2 года назад

    Not a huge slip joint fan but that’s a nice looking knife! Thanks for sharing MC!

  • @benderrodriguez2107
    @benderrodriguez2107 2 года назад

    Love the look of this knife but would prefer it to be a flipper with a pocket clip. Would like more companies to make traditional looking slip joints into modern flippers.

  • @adoseofdrew
    @adoseofdrew 2 года назад +1

    What’s wrong with carrying a rocket launcher daily? 🤣👍🏼🙏🏼🖖🏻

  • @pompgt7234
    @pompgt7234 2 года назад

    Thank you! (About jimping on a slippy)

  • @jeaneche697
    @jeaneche697 2 года назад +2

    If only Kershaw pulled a Civivi and gave us the federalist 2 with a top flipper, liner lock and clip.

    • @masemasemasie
      @masemasemasie 2 года назад +2

      That would’ve been much better.

  • @BryanGardiner
    @BryanGardiner 9 месяцев назад

    Seems like every time I'm browsing and see knife that like design ends up being slip joint Fox has really nice slip joint spoiled to the washers and Thum studs if they even offer scabbard with I would buy

  • @chriss8206
    @chriss8206 2 года назад

    Think I would have liked it better as a flipper and linner lock. I like the lines.

  • @buckwylde9567
    @buckwylde9567 8 месяцев назад

    I really like the aesthetics, wanted love the knife. Maybe if it had a clip

  • @alexstrouse6333
    @alexstrouse6333 2 года назад

    Companies think slip joints or some back locks don’t need pocket clips because “its traditional” But at the same time we are calling them modern, most people want pocket clips. I think its just a hassle to buy a slip sheath with a pocket clip.

  • @sanecrazy12
    @sanecrazy12 2 года назад

    Cool little folder

  • @n0148813
    @n0148813 2 года назад

    No pocket clip, but thank goodness it has a completely useless lanyard hole…come on man…when I first saw this I though I might buy me a kershaw. Probably not now. Always enjoy the reviews MC, keep ‘em coming.

    • @graniumhdz419
      @graniumhdz419 2 года назад +1

      The lanyard hole makes a lot of sense here. If lanyards are used to help get a knife out of your pocket, a longish lanyard may hold it up against the side of your pocket! A quasi clip if you will

  • @jdisdetermined
    @jdisdetermined 2 года назад +1

    Yeah, no pocket clip means it will never be in my pocket. I don't even consider buying knives without clips, no matter how good it may be otherwise. 😔

  • @regan.8077
    @regan.8077 2 года назад

    A double detent slip joint needs to be a flipper, have a pocket clip and a finger choil for safety.

  • @staradder218
    @staradder218 2 года назад +2

    I can't be the only one who's noticed that 7cr is "surfacing" to bigger knife companies. C'mon... Gerber started it, Buck's starting to use it, and now Kershaw? I'm just sayin'...
    My two cents.

    • @mnelson0533
      @mnelson0533 2 года назад +3

      This is CPM 154, but if you just mean in general yeah I kinda noticed that last time I was nosing through the generic fodder of knives at Fleet. The Buck was what kinda stuck out to me, I saw they now had a few Chinese made offerings in 7cr which was kinda cringey to me if you excuse the expression. I mean I get if they wanna offer some more budget stuff, but let's be honest their usual 420hc and I think a couple 440c isn't exactly crazy primo stuff. I think it works for them and they've kind of built their brand on it, why not stick with it even if it's in an offshore budget model?

  • @mikehalf4027
    @mikehalf4027 2 года назад +4

    You wouldn’t carry a grappling hook if it was well made and compact? Come on complex. And I don’t carry a pry tool when I have a launcher.

    • @jonathancupp3686
      @jonathancupp3686 2 года назад +1

      I do, what if the launcher breaks and I break the flathead on my Leatherman? How am I gonna fix the launcher?

    • @mikehalf4027
      @mikehalf4027 2 года назад +1

      @@jonathancupp3686 point taken

  • @rman713
    @rman713 Месяц назад

    Really appreciate you zooming in on the balls

  • @lobotomite9767
    @lobotomite9767 2 года назад

    This would be an absolute must buy for me if it had a deep carry pocket clip. Without a clip I am not buying it

  • @bradl45
    @bradl45 2 года назад

    some good materials !!

  • @BohnsBlades
    @BohnsBlades 2 года назад +2

    Ah perfect, I just sat down to poo. Thanks for the entertainment!

  • @tj8210
    @tj8210 2 года назад

    I meanwhen your cutting rope or whatever your gonna have back pressure so I mean it's not like it's just gonna close on you bud. That gimping is nice

  • @nathanlloyd6954
    @nathanlloyd6954 2 года назад +1

    I have seen a few of your videos now and I can’t help but associate your voice to Vince Vaughn the actor. So in my mind it’s Knife reviews by Vince. Hopefully you take no offence to that in any way.

  • @dash4786
    @dash4786 Год назад

    Damn no belt clip! That killed the knife for men

  • @d_sharon_design
    @d_sharon_design Год назад

    I think they totally blew an awesome looking design. Who out there is asking for double detent knives?

  • @TheGamerGuy1981
    @TheGamerGuy1981 2 года назад +2

    No pocket clip means no thanks. Just not practical for usage without a clip.

  • @SkunkPunch73
    @SkunkPunch73 2 года назад

    It’s a nice looking piece but i just can’t get on with them double detent numbers they’re just too weak on the closing side. Only one that is actually good is the Tuya Martin Annegarn Streetlegal folding knife it really has got a damn good strong feeling on it. But that’s not this piece which is a rather good looker but after countless time’s of having the good old UK legal crap just close on me ( i know my own fault for the angle i had it at) I would rather go with a good old strong walk n talk number. Or like 90 % of my knives just ignore the law and have a good lock action. It’s not like i’m a lunatic kid flashing a knife about. When i was a kid it was more of the old stone fights and snapped branches off of trees hahaha kids will be kids. Ohh yeah and i have always called it a nail nick as well or where you stuck your front teeth if you’re nails was not strong enough. Have a beautiful day M_C stay safe and brother 😘👍🏼

  • @Jmon808
    @Jmon808 2 года назад

    So close but That cheap plastic back spacer ruins it for me.

  • @silentblackdisc
    @silentblackdisc 2 года назад

    They got it all wrong. Double detents are better for smaller knives, in my opinion; get rid of the mid-stop. If this knife had a finger-choil to help prevent the blade from closing, it wouldn't be so bad. In this size, though, it needs a clip. Pass.

  • @t_mac010
    @t_mac010 2 года назад

    Additionally, its the goofiest looking jimping. You can't use it, and they knew because they only put 3 jimps 😂

  • @Red.Hot.Chili.Beans63
    @Red.Hot.Chili.Beans63 2 года назад

    Metal, gosh man on and on about the clip. Kershaw made the decision to go old school and that knife is made of materials that resist scuffs. They intend for you to drop that knife in your pocket with your change and keys, just like your grandpa did 50 years ago!

  • @little2826
    @little2826 2 года назад

    That knife makes no sense. It looks good but needs a lock and thumb studs.

  • @ItzSlushie
    @ItzSlushie 2 года назад +1

    First

    • @jonathancupp3686
      @jonathancupp3686 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, yeah, yeah…braggart.
      Just playing

    • @ItzSlushie
      @ItzSlushie 2 года назад +1

      @@jonathancupp3686 if it wasn't me it'd be someone else 😂

  • @T_D_B_
    @T_D_B_ Год назад

    Pocket clips are overrated

  • @akquicksilver
    @akquicksilver 2 года назад

    No lock, no way, no buy.