State of the UK Economy: How do we “make Brexit work”?
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Britain’s global economic and trade strategy
How do we “make Brexit work”? Or is this not feasible without major shifts of political strategy? Meanwhile, what does “Global Britain” mean and how does the UK adapt its approach to a potentially more protectionist world?
Chair: Catherine Barnard, University of Cambridge and UKICE
Panel:
Madeleine Sumption, University of Oxford
Thomas Sampson, London School of Economics
Allie Renison, SEC Newgate
As far as I know - teaching about the EU for decades - there will be NO cherry-picking for a THIRD COUNTRY like the UK not least because of WTO's " Prefered Country" rule.
So SM and CU are for MEMBERS only either in the EU or EFTA.
Norway said "no" to UK's EFTA membership and the EU said "no" to another "Switzerland".
There will be a TCA review in 2026 but it will be just an assessment if the TCA is working especially for the EU ! Trying to " make Brexit work" is like trying to " make an accident work" IMHO.
I'd be delighted if you could prove me wrong as I personally have ties with the UK.
Greetings from Germany.
Groundhogging 😂!
And these people are considered 'experts'. All they excel in are 1) embarrassing ignorance and 2) delusions.
I'm sorry to say that I believe that to be accurate. There are still a lot of people in the UK, many of whom should know better, who think some kind of special deal will be offered to the UK that no other country would ever get. Apart from being mistaken this also presents the UK in a way that I'm personally not comfortable with at all. No wonder we are accused of having an exceptionalist mindset.
In reality a lot of us have grasped the basics now but this type of video really isn't helping. Just my thoughts. Greetings from Scotland. Edited for typo.
You are German?
And yet you write English better than many English people do. 😊.
Impressive
@@smashingturnips5353 Thanks for the compliment. Made my day. :)
Don't forget that English is the most important forreign language here in Germany.
Two facts helped me to acquire that standard of English. My husband is Maltese and we spend time here and in Malta and I studied at Goldsmiths Uni many moons ago. And I still love the UK !
Re the review of implementation, the speakers would do well to watch a presentation by Jannike Wachowiak on this in the UKICE live session 'Can the UK-EU trade deal be renegotiated'.(Short answer: No). She explains the several reasons why the EU have no interest in making much of it. Another speaker in the same session, Joel Reland explains that in other deals where the EU have this clause they look at the deal, say yeah, it's working OK and sign off on it. There won't be any EU summits around it.
Visas are not free movement.
If 'sector specific deals' and 'incrementalism' are euphemisms for cherrypicking, there won't be any
Making Brexit work is the same as trying to nail a jelly to a wall
Trying to make EU membership work and pretending your country is independent and in sovereign control for 50 years was also like nailing jelly to a wall.
@@Sjb-on5xtEU same old gammon nonsense. SOVRUNTY. Twat.
@@Sjb-on5xtsovereignty doesn’t exist in a globalised world. You’re a rule taker whether you like it or not. Unless you’re a superpower - which the U.K. isn’t
@@bigbobabc123 I agree that some sovereign control is given over in order to facilitate trade, form military alliances and set agreed standards, however what we do within our own territorial borders is for us to decide in accordance to the laws made in parliament.
To claim sovereignty doesn't exist doesn't understand that international law doesn't exist without a sovereign country's consent, which any international treaty or agreement can be terminated unilaterally by a simple Act of parliament.
Terminating the EU treaty is a case in point.
@@Sjb-on5xtSpecific example of when that occurred and how it directly affected the agency of British sovereignty in something that the U.K. itself did not agree to but was compelled to do?
9:00 ff 'services' were not hugely affected because the grace periods for services, mostly FS, only ended 12/31/2023 or will end in the near future (18 months).
That simple 😂.
Mind-blowing. My 16-year old American daughter was already learning of the obvious consequences of Britain leaving the EU in an economics class in high school. It’s just common-sense not to leave if you’re from the Americas.
Can you name any country on the planet who gained independence did it for economic reasons? In 1776 did the 13 British colonies in America, break from British rule for economic reasons or was it to be a self governing nation to make their own constitution, laws and taxes?
Is this a conference on how to improve the art of cherry picking?
There will not be a review of the TCA in 2026, it will be, as it is written in the TCA, a review of the implementation of the TCA. Even this former civil servant seems not to have bothered to actually read the text of the TCA, quite amazingly.
The impression I get from UKICE videos is that if they keep asking the same question, eventually they'll get a diferent answer
So in conclusion making Brexit work requires that the EU makes it work. I am afraid that in the EU we elect our politicians to advance our interests, not the UK's interests. Just saying...
The EU represents its bureaucrats and whoever lobbies it. Top down policies no one has ever voted for in any election.
@@Sjb-on5xt Why don't you google EU legislative process. It's more democratic than the UK one. These old ridiculous fallacies do not speak well off your intellect.
@@samhartford8677I agree that the MEP's are elected in a fairer system of PR for parties, but on what manifestos?
Normally a party will provide policies that they will implement if they form a government. MEPs don't form any government, they form block voting multiple parties in an assembly from similar parties across Europe. What elections are held for the EU commission and its 5 presidents?
@@Sjb-on5xt How you conceptualise the results of EU parliamentary elections is exactly what I meant by the difference of the UK political culture. For us accustomed to PR systems, it is self-evident that the MEPs run on the party platform. When they go to the EU Parliament they will join together with MEPs from other countries with similar policy goals. Depending on what the political balance of the EU Parliament is, they will negotiate with the new Commission what kind of a policy agenda they want.
The EU Commission is the civil service. The EU Council is basically the government/cabinet. The Presidents are just figureheads there to speak with one mouth for 27 countries. They do not have a vote on legislation, their task is to coordinate, implement and represent the EU member states.
@@samhartford8677 yes the political structure is completely different in the UK and PR is probably the way to reform it. Parties print their glossy manifestos informing it's public voters at a General Election, what they intend to implement if they form a government and get scrutinized and judged on their performance to deliver on those mandates, at the next general election. They are accountable, where the voters can throw the rascals out every 4 to 5 years. What use is it if all those policies are not in their sovereign control to deliver and given over to a collective in Europe to decide? What mandate does any MEP to vote on anything? You claimed that the EU commission is just a civil service, but many hold senior politburo style positions that direct and influence policy in the Council. What mandate do they have to negotiate what is decided?
The best way to "make Brexit work" is to leave the UK and go and live somewhere else. 😂😂😂
Haha shame thick remainers cannot leave
There isn’t really a way to “make Brexit work” at all - at least, not from the perspective of trade facilitation, product standards, free-flow of goods, capital, labour etc (ie the Single Market). So having decided that we do not want to cooperate with our nearest neighbours economically, and given that the option of compelling others to trade with us on our terms (the empire) is no longer available, in a polarising world that leaves few options - the most likely of which is to become a client state, effectively a political and economic satellite - of the USA. There has always been an Atlanticist faction among the Brexiteers for whom that was the ideal, certainly Liam Fox and probably Farage given his devotion Trumpism.
How do you make a teapot out of chocolate?
Brexturbation to anticlimax...sigh.
You don’t