Underrated is an absurd thing to say. No one is really making an estimation and for good reason: we have incomplete skeletons comprised of likely three individuals. That is nothing and means we don't know all that much.
What a gorgeous animal. I cant imagine what it would've been like standing near one. Giraffes are breathtakingly huge so I can barely wrap my mind around an even BIGGER species of giraffe.
I remember reading quite along time ago(40years) about someone travelling around Abbasynia (Ethiopia) and they mentioned the emperor had a herd of "antlered" giraffes. I would think a subspecies with larger and /or pronged ossicones not of course Sivatherium (sadly). I thought it might have been in one of Wilfred Thesiger's books but not sure. Great video, look forward to the next.
super cool to see all the different paleo artist interpretations of sevatherium. with the only two extant relatives being so visually distinct, it leaves a lot of room for interpretation. paleo artists are definitely underappreciated in their balance of creativity and scientific knowledge.
It's a great thing to see. All of these different colourations could be in some way true, which is really incredible to think about. Paleo artists are definitely under-appreciated, given how they give us a terrific glimpse into past life and what it would have been like.
What a coincidence ( sort of ). I've been researching the Climacoceratidae for some illustration work and suddenly up pops Prolibytherium in the opening of your video! I've never heard of the prehistoric Sivatherium paintings, I'm amazed actually. Maybe one day you could do a video on extinct animals in prehistoric and ancient art. Mammoth, Irish elk, Sivatherium, genyornis, thylacine in rock paintings. European lion, chinese ostrich and even a possible Samotherium are depicted in ancient civilization art.
@@HenrythePaleoGuy oh please do I'm sure most of us paleontology nuts could watch hours of information and illustrations on cave art. My main fascination with it is its an actual depiction of what animals of that age really looked like.
Thank you! I always try to make them interesting and filled with information, while also making it understandable to anyone, no matter their prior knowledge. :)
to me these things always looked like a cross between a chalicothere and a giraffe, also, also video idea: a video on ceratopsians focusing on centrosaurines or chasmosaurines? you can choose which one you want to do :)
I'm always searching for subjects in your videos. Sparsely do I add to my channel sub list, bravo good sir. You got madd narration game my friend! I imagine you working on that sounds & cutting your own sound out of that out that basic format mold. Perhaps your personality shining through the cracks illuminating your genuine passion..art for art's sake(opposed to art for the sake of $). As the shape morphs your quality improves creating. Keep the content coming from your heart
Ahh yes!! I was about to go fan-person(?) about this before realizing that other people probably would think I'm weird for being a hard core fan of a not well known extinct giraffe-relative
kia ora bro. Love seeing a fellow Kiwi making informative youtube docos. You seem to mainly focus on birds and the occasional mammal but have you thought of doing an episode about the Weta? I've always found them so neat, giant flightless cricket, occupied the ecological niche normally taken by rodents on most of the world. Certainly less of them now days, but certainly not doing as bad as some of our other native animals. And I honestly have no idea what kinda fossil record there is for them, or just how related they are to crickets around the world. Just an idea. Keep up the good work dude.
Wait... they do not have much withers at all. How would they lift their heavy head without much muscle attachment above the neck? Look at giraffe/okapi/horse withers they are massive. I am doubting the high head carriage.
Great video by the way it is possible to recreate sivatherium by altering the DNA of okapi is there a chance that this will work or am i wrong? it's just an example
Science can say all that they want to- and they should. However, to me it looks like a huge moose. The shovel antlers are very similar to a moose. Moose are huge. I don't know about taming any of them, though I suppose that could have been possible. As for them being nearly the size of an elephant, the picture doesn't portray that kind of size. I think they need to guess better.
You just said the inverse of what he said, which is also true: low co2 levels favor grasses over trees, and higher co2 levels favor trees over grasses.....
@@HenrythePaleoGuy I wanted to ask you what you think of Nanotyrannus, I wanted to ask you more discreetly to avoid a fight breaking out because, you know how big this question is. If you don't want to answer I understand.
@@The_PokeSaurus I personally think that the genus is indeed just a representation of juvenile Tyrannosaurus, and overall appears to be more likely. Once it all gets resolved as best it can be, I'll see about making a video. :)
@@HenrythePaleoGuy Oh, thank you for this answer. I just wanna say Personally I think Nanotyrannus is it's own thing after I talked to some real paleontologists about it. And I used to be very anti Nanotyrannus.
Is kinda Sad how underrated this lineage of animals is especially when the giraffe and the okapi are the only surviving members.
Underrated is an absurd thing to say.
No one is really making an estimation and for good reason: we have incomplete skeletons comprised of likely three individuals.
That is nothing and means we don't know all that much.
Is anything *not* underrated? How about the word "underrated"; that's definitely overrated.
Pronghorn too
One of my favourite extinct mammals. I remember learning about their existence in the giraffe Zoobooks.
Frackin Zoobooks!!!!
Zoobooks, man, I was always waiting for those to come out.
I'm pretty sure that's where I learned about them too!
That’s where I learned about many prehistoric animals.
This was in Zoobooks? Interesting, I first remembered it in Zoo Tycoon 2.
What a gorgeous animal. I cant imagine what it would've been like standing near one. Giraffes are breathtakingly huge so I can barely wrap my mind around an even BIGGER species of giraffe.
It would be amazing!
Feel like we need to get Elon musk working on life size robots lol
I remember reading quite along time ago(40years) about someone travelling around Abbasynia (Ethiopia) and they mentioned the emperor had a herd of "antlered" giraffes. I would think a subspecies with larger and /or pronged ossicones not of course Sivatherium (sadly).
I thought it might have been in one of Wilfred Thesiger's books but not sure.
Great video, look forward to the next.
Interesting to hear.
Yes ok.
Oh yeah okk.
Me: Watching this at 2am at 70% volume with headphones on
Henry the PaleoGuy: GIRAFFES
RIP Ears.
ikr
Hmm yes
I guess he really likes giraffes
It's 2:17am for me rn too 😂 and I don't have it very quiet either lol
The next prehistoric mammal you should do is Paleoloxodon. Especially since there is a debate whether this was bigger than Paraceratherium.
Good idea!
super cool to see all the different paleo artist interpretations of sevatherium. with the only two extant relatives being so visually distinct, it leaves a lot of room for interpretation. paleo artists are definitely underappreciated in their balance of creativity and scientific knowledge.
It's a great thing to see. All of these different colourations could be in some way true, which is really incredible to think about. Paleo artists are definitely under-appreciated, given how they give us a terrific glimpse into past life and what it would have been like.
Giraffes: Tall bois
Okapis: Frankenstein’s megabomination
Sivatherium: H o r n
Absolutely brilliant. Music quiet and not intrusive. I wish more videos were like this.
I wish so too. Glad my videos can offer that.
What a coincidence ( sort of ).
I've been researching the Climacoceratidae for some illustration work and suddenly up pops Prolibytherium in the opening of your video!
I've never heard of the prehistoric Sivatherium paintings, I'm amazed actually.
Maybe one day you could do a video on extinct animals in prehistoric and ancient art.
Mammoth, Irish elk, Sivatherium, genyornis, thylacine in rock paintings. European lion, chinese ostrich and even a possible Samotherium are depicted in ancient civilization art.
Do you have any links to the Chinese Ostrich with my quick searching I found little relevant.
@@tachyonicnewt2473 Look up
Mongolia - Khoid Tsenkher Cave.
The images i have are not online, they're in a book on Mongolia.
Interesting! I'm glad you learned something new.
I'll look into a video on cave art. :)
@@HenrythePaleoGuy oh please do I'm sure most of us paleontology nuts could watch hours of information and illustrations on cave art. My main fascination with it is its an actual depiction of what animals of that age really looked like.
Love the detail Henry, lots of research, intelligently put together , and yet not so technical that we laymen can’t understand it , thank you .
Thank you! I always try to make them interesting and filled with information, while also making it understandable to anyone, no matter their prior knowledge. :)
Enjoyed this. Well done & thanks!
This is so incredible awesome and fascinating and informative! Thank you Henry! 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
Much obliged! :)
Your channel is a wealth of superbly-illustrated research. Thanks for all your time and effort!
Thank you! I'm glad you think that.
Very good video. Never knew all this. Hopefully you will keep providing us with quality content like this.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
Yees ok.
to me these things always looked like a cross between a chalicothere and a giraffe, also, also video idea: a video on ceratopsians focusing on centrosaurines or chasmosaurines? you can choose which one you want to do :)
I'm always searching for subjects in your videos. Sparsely do I add to my channel sub list, bravo good sir. You got madd narration game my friend! I imagine you working on that sounds & cutting your own sound out of that out that basic format mold. Perhaps your personality shining through the cracks illuminating your genuine passion..art for art's sake(opposed to art for the sake of $). As the shape morphs your quality improves creating. Keep the content coming from your heart
I love how alien they look, I wish I could see one, even just for 5 minuets
very fascinating prehistoric giraffe to learn about and to know about. Great video Henry very interesting video.
Thanks for watching as always.
I remember these in ZT2
What is ZT2?
Ethan Wall Zoo Tycoon 2
I wonder if my landlord would let me keep one in my apartment?
Depends on the apartment. I'd say that many would definitely not be big enough. XD
Excellent delivery. I love this guy before bed.
It’s skull looks almost ceratopsian
So THAT'S how you say it! These big giraffes must've been a spectacular sight!
Yes indeed!
Ahh yes!! I was about to go fan-person(?) about this before realizing that other people probably would think I'm weird for being a hard core fan of a not well known extinct giraffe-relative
You're among friends here.
Hey 😊, I'm with you on all this geek stuff! Relax and get comfortable! Enjoy your fandom 😜😂!
kia ora bro. Love seeing a fellow Kiwi making informative youtube docos. You seem to mainly focus on birds and the occasional mammal but have you thought of doing an episode about the Weta? I've always found them so neat, giant flightless cricket, occupied the ecological niche normally taken by rodents on most of the world. Certainly less of them now days, but certainly not doing as bad as some of our other native animals. And I honestly have no idea what kinda fossil record there is for them, or just how related they are to crickets around the world.
Just an idea. Keep up the good work dude.
Wetan idea
Wait... they do not have much withers at all. How would they lift their heavy head without much muscle attachment above the neck? Look at giraffe/okapi/horse withers they are massive. I am doubting the high head carriage.
Thank you Henry very well presented as usual That is something else I have learned.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well done! Enjoyed this very much.
How about a video on the various giraffe species.
Thank you! I'll look into that. :)
It’s sad seeing so many gentle giants not here anymore. I’m honestly surprised giraffes are still around. Such a beautiful animal.
fantastic video!
Great video by the way it is possible to recreate sivatherium by altering the DNA of okapi is there a chance that this will work or am i wrong? it's just an example
excellent informative and through enjoyed it
I remember those from Zoo Tycoon!
They are quite the cool animals! :)
What a beautiful creature. Thank you for bringing it to us.
No problem! Thanks for watching.
Wow! Awesome video and awesome animal
Thank you for watching!
Henry the PaleoGuy No way! Thank you for the awesome content 😁
This is one of the most unique megafauna animals i've seen tbh
That skull is so amazing
That,s was same name of video of extinction blog!!!!
What about the bronze statue?
It’s great to see another video on these animals, I think giraffe groups should be way more recognised
Same here. I'll be sure to make more videos on them at some point. :)
Good to know!
you can make some video on sivatherium like how did they extinct and it can be de extincted how
Yes but what happens if I try to ride one?
Cool. Thx
You're welcome!
I saw a suggestion that some Sumerian amulets depict Sivatherium.
Science can say all that they want to- and they should. However, to me it looks like a huge moose. The shovel antlers are very similar to a moose. Moose are huge.
I don't know about taming any of them, though I suppose that could have been possible. As for them being nearly the size of an elephant, the picture doesn't portray that kind of size. I think they need to guess better.
1:46 nice.
7:30 higher CO2 favors trees over grasses.
You just said the inverse of what he said, which is also true:
low co2 levels favor grasses over trees, and higher co2 levels favor trees over grasses.....
Very true.
some princess mononoke shit right here
Aren't they giant okapi's?
So sad, so many magnificent animals forever gone.
They are magnificent
Indeed!
Are they larger than Giraffes?
Watch the video again and pay attention this time.
Watch the video
They are heavier than giraffes, but not taller.
@@beastmaster0934 In biology "big" is more mass
Now we know where unicorns come from.
Very interesting animal!! Really a shame only giraffes are left 😶 their relatives look awesome
He mentioned okapis are related (and are alive)
😍😍
There's a question I have.
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What's that?
@@HenrythePaleoGuy I wanted to ask you what you think of Nanotyrannus, I wanted to ask you more discreetly to avoid a fight breaking out because, you know how big this question is. If you don't want to answer I understand.
@@The_PokeSaurus I personally think that the genus is indeed just a representation of juvenile Tyrannosaurus, and overall appears to be more likely. Once it all gets resolved as best it can be, I'll see about making a video. :)
@@HenrythePaleoGuy Oh, thank you for this answer. I just wanna say Personally I think Nanotyrannus is it's own thing after I talked to some real paleontologists about it. And I used to be very anti Nanotyrannus.
7:11 so co2 does not cause climate change? how is this climate change any different then what came before or in the future.
The change occurring now is doing so at a much faster rate, and therefore will be more tempramental.
What if ALL prehistoric Mammals, Bird's that ever existed, were alive today?
I remember those creatures from zoo tycoon 2
Why is it titled Shiva's beast?
Probably the translated name.
First discovered in India and that's what they named the genus after - the Indian god Shiva
"Pachyderms" are not "now invalid". They were never valid, but are now known to be invalid. Bad taxonomy takes sooooo long to die.
I meant as in they were "believed to be valid", but it was later realised that this assessment was wrong.
@@HenrythePaleoGuy That is my point. The facts don't change.
8:10 lol you'll thank me
people be sleeping on pronghorn
I no understando
I a door these odd looking giraffe.
8:10 "Guess how these animals pooped!" ... well, from the same place as every other.
Omg I'm glad I am not the only one who wanted to comment on that lmao
a paleontology video???? on the henry the paleoguy youtube channel???????
...allergic to atl-atls, maybe?
Wtf how have i never heard of or seen any of these? History and science channel you have failed smh.
I’m glad you came across the channel! Am happy it can fill that niche that those ones used to. ;)
but why is he shiva's beast? i know that black dog and the nandi bull where assosiated with shiva but why this extincted animal?