Not gonna lie, my jaw dropped when you poured the soju into the glass with switches in them. I wonder if they still work after that haha. Creative shot nonetheless!
First of all, your video production and editing are top-notch! Subscribed and hoping to see more content! I'm tempted to try this out myself before Kiwis go out of stock again.
Hey man, thanks for dropping by! Really appreciate the support! You should, they're really awesome switches, just really expensive. You can try out zykos, and they're not far from the feel, but you'll have less qc issues with Sojus if using hotswap and they do sound a bit thockier.
@@Magniboards That sounds way up my alley! I was actually in the market for Holy Kiwis but seeing you go that extra step with the boba tops really got me thinking.
Great job brotha! Awesome Intro, quality sound tests, and very nice breakdown! I’d love to see more Frankenswitch videos as this is the type of content I love watching. Cheers 🍻
I absolutely love the production quality! Really enjoyable experience! Just a small criticism ,which i hope I'm not overstepping my bounds in providing, in my personal opinion I think the "vocals" audio sounds a bit too compressed. I think any improvement to that will help your strong production shine even better. Looking forward to more videos from you!
Hey buddy! First off, thank you for your support! I know putting comments like these take time and effort so it's really appreciated! On Audio: Yeah, the later ones suond a bit better. I was recording in a huge room with a lot of reverb and didnt have enough time to do reshoots. But I've taken note of that and compared this to other videos of mine and it did sound a bit off. But thanks for the advice! you are always welcome to provide feedback!
It could be because the leaf was moved when you where assembling it. You have to QC the switches enough to see if they are working properly, similar to Zykos.
Amazing video from that intro to the music and quality. Have you heard of holy bobas being made from boba housing and polia stems? Would love to hear your opinion on how that compares to halo true stem. Keep up the amazing work!
Just wondering, does anyone know what good top housings work well with cherry hyperglide bottom housings? Trying to make frankenswitches with those for my arcade stick buttons.
They should, if they're practically just a clone. I base the stem on pole length and tactility feel. Anything with that feel and length fits well, so measure it!
hey man, first time watcher here, and I just had some constructive criticism for your vids. I think you could make your video more captivating by removing silences in between your talking in post production. I also recommend putting the sections that most people click on the video for (sound test, information, components, etc.), with the more niche categories and sections towards the end (look and feel, typing experience, and other tactiels comparison). Overall I enjoyed your video, but just hoped that the video was a bit more fast-paced. But I enjoyed the smile you had throughout, and you clearly did your research. you just earned yourself a new subscriber
Thanks for the feedback buddy! Really appreciate it! Im taking note of these and would really work on improving the content in the future! Thanks for the honesty and support!
@@Magniboards hmm i've been hearing that the lumia legs are slightly different and that the tactility is more pronounced so I'm confused. Some say its identical and some say its a little different :/
It feels and looks the same to me, I checked it thoroughly before making the video. But I think everyone might have their own opinion about it. So better be safe and get lumias instead :)
@@Magniboards yeah, I already have a pile of halo stems that are leftover from creating holy boalas, and honestly out of all variations I've tried (pretty much tried all the housings that I could think of) it felt like koala bottom housings provided the most pronounced tactility with the halo stems and boba top housing. I really enjoyed the "no pretravel travel, snappy tactility with short travel distance" feel and was curious if there were any stems that could provide more emphasis on the tactility. So the 2 other options I found were lumias and poalas but I wasn't sure if it would be worth it to buy them while I already have so many halo stems :/.
Koalas and kiwis don't differ much with halos or lumias based on my tests recently. Polias have a longer stem, i don't know if you'll like it. It feels more abrupt when bottoming out, but again, not by alot, I like the short travel of lumias and halos as it is.
Question about this. I tried making the switch just now and the boba u4t tops I have seem to be extremely tight and a tolerance issue is causing it to not close down properly on the bottom housing as the legs flare out a bit and the stem is tight on the top housing. Would this be due to a bad batch of boba's? I was using Lumia stems for this. And I even tried using other stems to see if they had the binding issue. All the stems I used had the same issue: Glorious Panda stems, Dragon Fruit stems, Kiwi stems, SP-Star Haze Purple stems.
Hey buddy, I'm not entirely sure. I havent come across this issue apart from having switch films. You can try dragon fruit bottoms or zeal bottoms just to check if you still have issues. One of the biggest issues would be if you tamper with the leaf. This causes the tactility to lessen and for some reason, won't actuate key presses. But that's just about it.
I've tried making a batch, but settled on just using the U4T stem with its top, and it'll have to be solder-only because the leaf in the Kiwi bottom is not secured down (the kiwi top has tabs that keep the leaf pressed down into the bottom). You'll run into the same problem as Zykos when trying to put them in hotswap PCBs, where the leaf spring gets pushed up and disengages the contact, preventing switch actuation.
@@Riktasi that's correct. They are better on a soldered build, but I've managed to conjure up a good batch with proper QC and is mounted on my revered millmaxed f1-8x. You just need to be very careful in putting them onto the hotswap board. I guess mine had very little issues because the reverse millmaxed build has a wider opening compared to other hotswap configs.
@@Magniboards I ended up just making it with the Lumia tops. The Nylon tops give it a nice Thock with the sharper pitch you get with more Clacky switches
@@Magniboards you have really nice vids. I just want to ask which gk61 case has better acoustics for THOCK, aluminum or the wood? I plan on doing my first build with lubed and maybe filmed gat ink blacks. (And another one, can you drop a link on where you buy neoprene? I can't seem to find one in PH)
@@bigchonkers4835 I cant say whether its wood or aluminum. I would probably say Wood because Aluminum is much more solid in terms of construction for sure. That's why PC sounds better than it. But cant say for sure. For Neoprene sheets, shoppee has them if you're in the PH.
@@Magniboards also do you know if theres any major difference in housings with the kiwi vs t1? kiwi's can be hard to come by lol. Thanks for the info im new to the switch modding world :)
The feel of these are insane, but I'm having issues using the Purple Panda poles instead - they're too long so they stop actuating if the housing moves up or down too much. Going to try a shorter pole and see what happens. All I know is that the leaf on the Kiwi bottoms doesn't like it if the actuation isn't deep enough, and long pole stems stop that from completely happening.
I dont have cherry tops with me, but for T1 bottom housing, tactility is close, almost the same, but the sound somewhat differs, a bit clackier compared to the kiwi bottoms. Maybe it's just me though, i tried it on 5 bottoms with different stems and tops just to keep it neutral, but the difference is negligible really when you have keycaps on and typing on multiple keys
bro ALL THIS EDITING and amazing asmr b rolls and this man only has 2k subs. You deserve way better bro also I am trying to get into tactiles but I always hated them compared to regular clicky loud switches but now I hate MX Blues with a passion and am switching to Purple Panda Carrots hopefully thatll be sick. But any recommendations for some cheap linears to get into?
I went the easier route and just put the lumia stems on the kiwi housings and it's by far my favorite switch. It has a nice rich deep sound on my kbd67 lite. Thanks for the video.
Happy to be your 500th sub, I’m currently in the car right now but how do you think these compare to holy pandas? Not sure if you mentioned it in the vid or not, thanks!
Hey Buddy! Yeah thanks for being my 500th sub! I actually forgot to include the holy pandas and only realized it after filming. But holy pandas are quite similar to Glorious Pandas, just very little diffference, if any. I have drop holy pandas, during testing. I'd rank holy pandas around tier 3 for tactility.
I think so, at least that's what people point out. But there's also some research that says C3 has a different mold, even if JWK manufactured it. I can do further tests and update the description later.
@@Magniboards Thanks man, really appreciate the reply! I have gotten the chance to build some soju's for myself and have a few more questions for u if you don't mind :D After i build them they have a distinct clicky sound when pressed however when I put them in a board they sound just fine and almost indentical to yours. Is the clicky sound normal in my case?
@@volvobok6644 Hey buddy! WHat you may be hearing is just the pole hitting the bottom housing. It is quite abrupt since the pole is long and the bottom housing has a shallow bottom. It does produce a clicking sound when you press it down. The hollowness of the board takes care of it and when you spring swap, the typical spring pings of lower weighted springs disappear too. Hope this helps!
Question Have you had trouble with some of the switches not registering due to the lumia stem? I’ve gotten about 20-30 of em that are just not registering no matter what I do. Its frustrating cause i can’t figure out what makes em work in the first place 🤣 Would definitely appreciate some help because I absolutely fell in love with these switches but can’t even fill my whole board with em :(
@@Magniboards that's awesome! thank you so much for replying. I really love the sound of the zykos but don't want to deal with the leaf problems of the zealios and panda top lol
@@Magniboards finally made the switches, and holy shit they really are tactile. However, I feel like they suffer from the leaf moving around quite a lot (gmmk pro hotswap moment) so i'd like to ask if the boba top have any pins in place to prevent the movement of the leaf :)
@@Sharkyzane231 Unfortunately the dont. I never experienced that issue though, Ive made like 5 batches for friends, but they really require meticulous QC lol
Yes, somewhat? I'm not sure if T1 and C3 have the same mold even if they were manufactured both by JWK, but I can do some tests. The feel should be the same as the sound. Even if they aren't the same mold, I think the feel and the sound wont differ as much. Let me test and update the description!
Absolute professional, love the production quality :) I'm also planning to build a tactile mechanical keyboard, not sure which switch should I use instead. Currently among the tactile switches I got from gateron cherry box switch testers, zealios has the best feel for me personally, but it's quite expensive I'm not sure which tactile switches should I get :( any suggestion
Thanks very much! Yeah, Zelios is really tactile. But because of the cost, you can opt to go for cheaper options like Gazzew Boba U4/U4Ts (very tactile, and sounds awesome too), Dark Jades, Glorious Pandas, and others. I ranked them on the video. I also made a costing for your reference!
Did you have any issues with the switches in a hot swap board? I've made a handful with the kiwi bottoms/ lumia stem/ boba top and have some issues with the switches not registering
I haven't tried these myself, but I've tried bykos, issue is the boba top doesn't retain the leaf, so when you push it in to a hot swap the leaf gets pushed up slightly. I've seen people pull on the legs from the back of the pcb when soldering to make sure the leaf sits at the bottom of the housing. Im guessing it's the same with these sojus.
@@unzinn2014 Yeah i've realized the issue so far is that when I just have the legs contact the sockets, the switch works just fine, but when the switch is fully seated that's when the issues occur. I had better luck with zykos and cherry tops (since the boba tops don't have that little prong to keep the leaf in place) but the boba tops just sound so much better.
I really dont recommend them to hotswap boards due to the incompatibility of the top housing. It's quite similar to the issues with Zykos so it's always best to solder them. I do use them on a reversed-millmax board.
Anyone like these better than Bykos? I currently have Bykos and quite doubtful whether I could go with another switch. Edit: I was correct. Bykos are better imo. But still great switches.
Wait I’m confused??? U added kiwi bottoms which are more shallower yet got an even deeper sound than the already deep ass bykos??? Which have “deeper” (as In less shallow) bottom housing??? Whaaaaaat?
Deep or deeper is purely based on my opnion. Based on my testing, Zealbottoms and kiwis are almost the same in depth. There are so many factors affecting sound. Thats why I mentioned you should also do your own tests.
@@fiiroze Yes, the Sojus, but I think the diffirence is really minute to be honest, you cant go wrong with both. Kiwi bottoms were just less of a hassle to use on millmaxed boards and the sound did improve by a bit based on my standards. Plus, no need to sand the legs when using millmax sockets as opposed to Zealpc bottoms.
@@Magniboards yh true, oh yh one last thing this whole soju video just put my “ bykos is the best endgame tactile switch “ in the mud to be dead honest and so I was comparing the two and although the lumia and halo clear/true stems are the same length - are the tactile legs the complete same shape too like a full on 1:1 copy? I know u mentioned it in the bud however I said apparently😂If not which is more tactile?
They look and feel the same to me 🤷 if they are different, you'll barely notice it. bykos is an awesome switch too, not too far from Sojus. But I like the Sojus a bit better, I have tested them both, but it all boils down to preference. 🥂
Hey man, i really love the video as well as the sound of the switches so i tried making a batch myself, but it seems some of the switches do not actuate. Im not sure what the issue is, but whenever i dont use a kiwi top, the same issue occurs. Is this because i got a bad batch? I would really appreciate some help.
It's mostly because the leaf of the switch has been moved. Switches that don't actuate will either seem like a linear or isn't as tactile as switches that work. I've done some troubleshooting for a friend and this has been the case.
It's usually an issue with hotswap boards because the boba tops doesn't hold the leafs in place. But if you did a reverse solder, like what I did with my F1-8x, the sockets are a bit looser compared to kaihl sockets, which can prevent the issues. In your case, if the switch leaves have been moved, the switch itself is already "broken" :( so be extra careful in opening and closing the switches. The best practice I do is connect the board while I put the switches in while on keyboard tester.
@@Magniboards aw what a shame :(. I spent 3+ hrs lubing and filming them and I really loved the sound and feel. I guess I’ll try something else, bu I also want to ask about the boba top. I’m not sure if it’s QC issues but some of my Lumia stems don’t travel smoothly and It causes an inconsistent feel across the board. Do you know any way to fix this / an alternative to the boba top that gives a similar feel? I might try holy bobas using the Lumia stem.
@@stennn8624 I'm not entirely sure. someone also mentioned this to me but Gazzew confirmed there was no issues with Boba tops. I have not come across this issue myself. I've been very high with my QC and the only issues I've had are the misalignment of the leaves. You can try halo stems and check if it solves the issues.
Your filmed U4Ts have a noticeably deeper sound than unfilmed. I haven’t seen this anywhere else; do they actually sound deeper in person? And, if they do, what film did you use?
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Let me know what you think of these switches! Also, did you like that B-Roll Sequence? :)
It's like a thousand switches bottomed out.. And then there was silence.
it was heat 🔥 😫😫
Thank you buddy! 🥝
Beautiful work. Lemme buy some KEKW
@@Magniboards Not even kidding, I'll actually buy some. Haven't seen these on the market V_V
THAT OPENING SHOT IS SO HAS SO MUCH PRODUCTION VALUE
Thank you very much! 🥂
That intro looked so sick holy crap. Extremely creative shots my dude.
Thanks very much! There was a lot of effort into that intro B-roll! Glad you liked it!
Dude that B-roll was so classy!
Thank you! Really appreciate the support!
Lived in South Korea for 2 years and drank Soju often. Glad to see a Soju switch. Great content bro. Just subbed.
Hey there! Thanks very much for the support!
Please make more frankenswitch reviews. Love that B roll, looks like a free advertising for the switch ❤
Holy shit. That intro. That's an instant sub from me!
Thanks for watching! Really appreciate the support!
Not gonna lie, my jaw dropped when you poured the soju into the glass with switches in them. I wonder if they still work after that haha. Creative shot nonetheless!
I came from mech keybs ph facebook group.I was blown away by the intro! AUTOMATIC SUB MY MANGGGG
Hey man! Thank you very much! Really appreciate the support!
Never subbed faster to a channel. Golden production quality! Absolutely loved that creative intro shot. Keep up the awesome work!
Oh wow, thanks for the kind comments! Really appreciated! 🥝🍾🍸🥂
Idk how the hell i ended up here but your B-Roll and intro are on point sir!!! Hooleeee
Hey there! Thank you very much! 🥂
Mad respect to this guy for the effort. Keep up the good work dude!
Super underrated channel that opening shot is on par with the top RUclipsrs
Haven't even watched the whole video yet. I subscribed after the first 30 seconds of that intro. :p
Wow thank you so much for your support!
Man, your production quality just keeps getting better and better after every single video!
Thank you very much! 🙂
First of all, your video production and editing are top-notch! Subscribed and hoping to see more content!
I'm tempted to try this out myself before Kiwis go out of stock again.
Hey man, thanks for dropping by! Really appreciate the support!
You should, they're really awesome switches, just really expensive. You can try out zykos, and they're not far from the feel, but you'll have less qc issues with Sojus if using hotswap and they do sound a bit thockier.
@@Magniboards That sounds way up my alley! I was actually in the market for Holy Kiwis but seeing you go that extra step with the boba tops really got me thinking.
Yeah, they sound awesome, plus, almost non existent stem wobble. Just don't film them. They'll be too tight.
That intro hit my soft spot sheeeeesh. Great video as always!
Haha thank you! 🙂
I subbed the moment I saw that B-Roll like holy shit. Love to see more of those
Hey man, thanks! Really appreciate that. Humbled by your support! Will definitely do more of those! 🥂
This channel is underrated af. Cant wait for you to blow up, it’s only a matter of time.
Thank you so much for your kind words! Your support means a lot. I also hope the same lol for now, I'll keep creating content for you guys!
man that intro b-roll was crazy good!
As a korean who has seen his parents/relatives drinking soju at gatherings, I feel so proud :) Great content!
Wow, thank you! Really appreciate your kind words! 🥂
20 seconds in and with that fucking amazing production I know this is gonna be good
Wow, thank you very much man! Really appreciate the support!
Your videos have such a warming and passionate vibe sir, keep up the good work!
Thanks very much! Reallly appreciate the support!
Very interesting! I may try this whenever I get the epbt soju set. Thanks for the vid!
Thank you! Yeah you should try it!
The b-roll was so good i was parched 😅😂 Nice experiment!! 👌🏻
Hahaha thank you! 🥝🤑
Great job brotha! Awesome Intro, quality sound tests, and very nice breakdown! I’d love to see more Frankenswitch videos as this is the type of content I love watching. Cheers 🍻
Thanks very much! Really appreciate the support, I'll try and come up with frankenswitch videos in the future!
the editing on this... not even 30 seconds in and you have a new subscriber
I am INSANELY impressed! Great work!
Thank you!
I’m going to start drinking soju with switches in the glass!!! Haha! Intros just keep getting better and better!
Lol the b-roll doesn't suggest you do! Safety first! Thanks for stopping by! 🤑
Keeps up the good work. btwUr Intro so littttt!!!!!!
Thank you so much! Reallly appreciate it!
amazing bro. this video is so dope, please keep up the hard work.
Thabks very much! Really appreciate the kind words. I'm working on more content soon!
That b-roll tho!! Love it, sir!! 💯
Thanks so much bro!
looking forward to seeing more content and more amazing b-roll!
Thanks so much buddy! 🙏
With such editing skills. you deserve more
Thank you! I hope the algorithm pushes my content out more! And thanks for your kind words!
dude great video im here for all of this
Glad you enjoyed! Really appreciate the support Joey!
Dude this was absolutely amazing video! Makes me want to make some Soju switches now hahaah!
Hey man! Thanks very much! You should try it! Or borrow mine :)🥝
Love the video and the comparison!!!
Subscribed right after I saw the intro
Wow, thank you that's very flattering! I hope you'll enjoy the content too! 🥂
Back with the crazy b roll let's GOOO
Yeah! Thanks very much!
yes, i would like more videos like this. great job
Thanks very much for stopping by!
sick b-roll but the switches and the soju:( all for the content
Haha yeah, all for content. They're excess switches anyway. Kiwis that I broke before!
This is a really really well made video.
Thanks very much, Will!
This channel is almost so good; that B-Roll was amazing! My only issue is that the mic quality can feel quite disconcerting.
Thanks Ozzy! I'm still trying to do better in sound recording since I record in a large room, but definitely something I'll work on! Thanks very much!
goddamn the quality of this vid. the kiwis tho holy shit
Thank you so much! Really appreciate this!
loved the b roll and i love these switchs i wish i could get a keyboard since south africa doesnt have keyboard stuff
Oh man, you can always order via proxies in the US or anywhere!
Thorough in content, clean on editing, good stuff! wonder how these stack up to the new anubis that the zykos folks just dropped
Thanks very much! I honestly haven't tried them yet so looking forward to it too!
I absolutely love the production quality! Really enjoyable experience!
Just a small criticism ,which i hope I'm not overstepping my bounds in providing, in my personal opinion I think the "vocals" audio sounds a bit too compressed. I think any improvement to that will help your strong production shine even better. Looking forward to more videos from you!
Hey buddy! First off, thank you for your support! I know putting comments like these take time and effort so it's really appreciated!
On Audio: Yeah, the later ones suond a bit better. I was recording in a huge room with a lot of reverb and didnt have enough time to do reshoots. But I've taken note of that and compared this to other videos of mine and it did sound a bit off. But thanks for the advice! you are always welcome to provide feedback!
In before the channel blows up! Not into frankenswitches because it will hurt my wallet lol but great video as usual!!!
Haha thank you so much man! Anything in this hobby blows the wallet! 🤣
Have some problem trying to build this. My kiwi won't actuate with boba top housing. Even if I use original kiwi T1 stem and gold spring. Any idea? 🤔
It could be because the leaf was moved when you where assembling it. You have to QC the switches enough to see if they are working properly, similar to Zykos.
hi have u tried this with jwk/durock bottoms like the t1 and koala?
sheeeeeeesh the intro make me sub
Awesome! Thank you very much for stopping by! 🤑
Hi, which way I can get this switches in SEA ?
You have to buy all components online.
@@Magniboards thx mate, can you give me a link for this.
@@mobilephotographerTH you can check Zionstudios.ph
I was wondering what spring to use since you didn’t specify which one
Oh yeah, thats by preference! I used 70g on the green ones (alphas) and 75g on the orange ones (all other keys)
Amazing video from that intro to the music and quality. Have you heard of holy bobas being made from boba housing and polia stems? Would love to hear your opinion on how that compares to halo true stem. Keep up the amazing work!
Yes I have. The Polia stems are a bit longer, I'll have to test it myself to know the smoothness and feel and sound though!
Just wondering, does anyone know what good top housings work well with cherry hyperglide bottom housings? Trying to make frankenswitches with those for my arcade stick buttons.
Would Glorious Panda stems work since they're a recreation of Halo Trues?
They should, if they're practically just a clone. I base the stem on pole length and tactility feel. Anything with that feel and length fits well, so measure it!
you mad scientist legend TAKE MY MONEY IM MAKING THESE
Lol go ahead and let's get mad! 🥝🔥
hey man, first time watcher here, and I just had some constructive criticism for your vids. I think you could make your video more captivating by removing silences in between your talking in post production. I also recommend putting the sections that most people click on the video for (sound test, information, components, etc.), with the more niche categories and sections towards the end (look and feel, typing experience, and other tactiels comparison). Overall I enjoyed your video, but just hoped that the video was a bit more fast-paced. But I enjoyed the smile you had throughout, and you clearly did your research. you just earned yourself a new subscriber
Thanks for the feedback buddy! Really appreciate it! Im taking note of these and would really work on improving the content in the future! Thanks for the honesty and support!
@@Magniboards no problem man. imma help any way I can!
are the shapes of the lumia stems the same as the halo stems?
Yes, looks like it. Based on my examination.
@@Magniboards hmm i've been hearing that the lumia legs are slightly different and that the tactility is more pronounced so I'm confused. Some say its identical and some say its a little different :/
It feels and looks the same to me, I checked it thoroughly before making the video. But I think everyone might have their own opinion about it. So better be safe and get lumias instead :)
@@Magniboards yeah, I already have a pile of halo stems that are leftover from creating holy boalas, and honestly out of all variations I've tried (pretty much tried all the housings that I could think of) it felt like koala bottom housings provided the most pronounced tactility with the halo stems and boba top housing. I really enjoyed the "no pretravel travel, snappy tactility with short travel distance" feel and was curious if there were any stems that could provide more emphasis on the tactility. So the 2 other options I found were lumias and poalas but I wasn't sure if it would be worth it to buy them while I already have so many halo stems :/.
Koalas and kiwis don't differ much with halos or lumias based on my tests recently. Polias have a longer stem, i don't know if you'll like it. It feels more abrupt when bottoming out, but again, not by alot, I like the short travel of lumias and halos as it is.
Question about this. I tried making the switch just now and the boba u4t tops I have seem to be extremely tight and a tolerance issue is causing it to not close down properly on the bottom housing as the legs flare out a bit and the stem is tight on the top housing. Would this be due to a bad batch of boba's? I was using Lumia stems for this. And I even tried using other stems to see if they had the binding issue. All the stems I used had the same issue: Glorious Panda stems, Dragon Fruit stems, Kiwi stems, SP-Star Haze Purple stems.
Hey buddy, I'm not entirely sure. I havent come across this issue apart from having switch films. You can try dragon fruit bottoms or zeal bottoms just to check if you still have issues. One of the biggest issues would be if you tamper with the leaf. This causes the tactility to lessen and for some reason, won't actuate key presses. But that's just about it.
I've tried making a batch, but settled on just using the U4T stem with its top, and it'll have to be solder-only because the leaf in the Kiwi bottom is not secured down (the kiwi top has tabs that keep the leaf pressed down into the bottom). You'll run into the same problem as Zykos when trying to put them in hotswap PCBs, where the leaf spring gets pushed up and disengages the contact, preventing switch actuation.
@@Riktasi that's correct. They are better on a soldered build, but I've managed to conjure up a good batch with proper QC and is mounted on my revered millmaxed f1-8x. You just need to be very careful in putting them onto the hotswap board. I guess mine had very little issues because the reverse millmaxed build has a wider opening compared to other hotswap configs.
@@Magniboards I ended up just making it with the Lumia tops. The Nylon tops give it a nice Thock with the sharper pitch you get with more Clacky switches
really enjoyed the sound of the sojus, dark jades, lilacs and T1's. Hated unfilmed bobas.
Production quality is just C L E A N
Thanks very much buddy!
@@Magniboards you have really nice vids. I just want to ask which gk61 case has better acoustics for THOCK, aluminum or the wood? I plan on doing my first build with lubed and maybe filmed gat ink blacks. (And another one, can you drop a link on where you buy neoprene? I can't seem to find one in PH)
@@bigchonkers4835 I cant say whether its wood or aluminum. I would probably say Wood because Aluminum is much more solid in terms of construction for sure. That's why PC sounds better than it. But cant say for sure. For Neoprene sheets, shoppee has them if you're in the PH.
As someone who lives off Soju, I'm going to get these instead of actual Soju now for my keeb hobby. Both are equally addicting. 💚
Lol thanks! They're actually very great switches if you make them correctly. Just make sure you QC each switch carefully! 🥂
Wow, looks great
Thank you!
What an interesting switch!!!
Thank you! 🥝
@magniboards how many pins does the bottom housing have
Hey Yashwin, the Kiwi bottoms have five.
Is the Soju Switch compatible with Crown Samducksa SDB-202 or Sanwa OBS-MX arcade pushbuttons?
Hey, I'm not entirely sure! :( Aslong as they accept a 5 pin switch, and a cherry mx stem I guess?
@@Magniboards Well they both do accept Cherry MX switches as default switches, ranging from Blue to Red
how much bump/post travel do they have compared to the holy boba's? seems like kiwi housings have less post travel.
The kiwis have less post travel, correct. The boba housings are slightly larger than the kiwis so they have a slightly longer pre and post travel.
@@Magniboards also do you know if theres any major difference in housings with the kiwi vs t1? kiwi's can be hard to come by lol. Thanks for the info im new to the switch modding world :)
@@PracticalThumb some people say they are the same, if there's a difference, it's not much for sure, though i haven't tried them yet
Can the boba u4t rgb clear tops fit in this?
It should. Though I've heard they sound a bit more different. I haven't really tried it.
The feel of these are insane, but I'm having issues using the Purple Panda poles instead - they're too long so they stop actuating if the housing moves up or down too much. Going to try a shorter pole and see what happens. All I know is that the leaf on the Kiwi bottoms doesn't like it if the actuation isn't deep enough, and long pole stems stop that from completely happening.
If this is good, would a combination of Cherry tops and T1 bottoms work as well in terms of sound and tactility?
I dont have cherry tops with me, but for T1 bottom housing, tactility is close, almost the same, but the sound somewhat differs, a bit clackier compared to the kiwi bottoms. Maybe it's just me though, i tried it on 5 bottoms with different stems and tops just to keep it neutral, but the difference is negligible really when you have keycaps on and typing on multiple keys
@@Magniboards do you think using the polia stem instead of the lumia stem was similar?
bro ALL THIS EDITING and amazing asmr b rolls and this man only has 2k subs. You deserve way better bro also I am trying to get into tactiles but I always hated them compared to regular clicky loud switches but now I hate MX Blues with a passion and am switching to Purple Panda Carrots hopefully thatll be sick. But any recommendations for some cheap linears to get into?
Is it a mainstream to have a hair on wobble test ? Seeing this on many such tests.
I went the easier route and just put the lumia stems on the kiwi housings and it's by far my favorite switch. It has a nice rich deep sound on my kbd67 lite. Thanks for the video.
Happy to be your 500th sub, I’m currently in the car right now but how do you think these compare to holy pandas? Not sure if you mentioned it in the vid or not, thanks!
Hey Buddy! Yeah thanks for being my 500th sub! I actually forgot to include the holy pandas and only realized it after filming. But holy pandas are quite similar to Glorious Pandas, just very little diffference, if any. I have drop holy pandas, during testing. I'd rank holy pandas around tier 3 for tactility.
I can also make these switches but with T1 bottoms right? Since they're both from jwk
I think so, at least that's what people point out. But there's also some research that says C3 has a different mold, even if JWK manufactured it. I can do further tests and update the description later.
where can I buy these???
You'll have to make it yourself with a bunch of switches I mentioned in the video!
Hi a question here, do you lube and film the soju's itself? If so what lube and film did you use / recommend?
I do. I don't recommend filming Sojus because the tolerance is already tight. I used 203g0 for them.
@@Magniboards Thanks man, really appreciate the reply! I have gotten the chance to build some soju's for myself and have a few more questions for u if you don't mind :D After i build them they have a distinct clicky sound when pressed however when I put them in a board they sound just fine and almost indentical to yours. Is the clicky sound normal in my case?
@@volvobok6644 Hey buddy! WHat you may be hearing is just the pole hitting the bottom housing. It is quite abrupt since the pole is long and the bottom housing has a shallow bottom. It does produce a clicking sound when you press it down. The hollowness of the board takes care of it and when you spring swap, the typical spring pings of lower weighted springs disappear too. Hope this helps!
Question
Have you had trouble with some of the switches not registering due to the lumia stem? I’ve gotten about 20-30 of em that are just not registering no matter what I do. Its frustrating cause i can’t figure out what makes em work in the first place 🤣
Would definitely appreciate some help because I absolutely fell in love with these switches but can’t even fill my whole board with em
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These days, RUclipsrs with relatively few subscribers have the best production quality.
Man, thanks so much for your kind words. Im assuming you're talking about me lol. But sincerely, thanks for checking the channel!
@@Magniboards hope to see more quality content from you, bro. To more subscribers in the future 🥂
@@rahniervillanueva9579 Thanks very much for your support!
Did you try sake switches? You swapped out the boba u4t bottom housing so I'm guessing you preferred the kiwis. Also were these switches scratchy?
Sake's were part of the comparison switches in this video. The switches arent scratchy as long as they are properly lubed.
can the Soju switch be used with a panda top instead of a boba top?
if so, will it result in a higher pitched top out sound?
thank you :)
There's really very little sound difference, if i were to be honest. If you do change it to a panda top, it will essentially become zyoks :)
@@Magniboards that's awesome! thank you so much for replying. I really love the sound of the zykos but don't want to deal with the leaf problems of the zealios and panda top lol
@@Sharkyzane231 goodluck!
@@Magniboards finally made the switches, and holy shit they really are tactile. However, I feel like they suffer from the leaf moving around quite a lot (gmmk pro hotswap moment) so i'd like to ask if the boba top have any pins in place to prevent the movement of the leaf :)
@@Sharkyzane231 Unfortunately the dont. I never experienced that issue though, Ive made like 5 batches for friends, but they really require meticulous QC lol
How do the switches sound soju cup lubed? :D
What do you think sounds deeper lumia or halo true/clear stem?
I honestly think they sound the same, they look like copies of each other. Pole length, shape, etc.
How they compare to Alps SKCMs?
How would you suggest lubing these?
Same way you would lube other tactiles. Completely up to you if you want to lube the legs or not 🤠
Can i use U4 silent 's top?
So glad i came across this! Was about to make zykos but zeal bottoms suck for millmax, are kiwis compatible with millmax?
Yes they are. Ive used them on normal millmax mounting and reverse. I prefer reverse millmax for everything now.
So it's a holy t1 with a boba top! I feel like the name might be confusing to most, and people might not get that you can sub in any t1 bottom
Yes, somewhat? I'm not sure if T1 and C3 have the same mold even if they were manufactured both by JWK, but I can do some tests. The feel should be the same as the sound. Even if they aren't the same mold, I think the feel and the sound wont differ as much. Let me test and update the description!
Absolute professional, love the production quality :) I'm also planning to build a tactile mechanical keyboard, not sure which switch should I use instead. Currently among the tactile switches I got from gateron cherry box switch testers, zealios has the best feel for me personally, but it's quite expensive I'm not sure which tactile switches should I get :( any suggestion
Thanks very much! Yeah, Zelios is really tactile. But because of the cost, you can opt to go for cheaper options like Gazzew Boba U4/U4Ts (very tactile, and sounds awesome too), Dark Jades, Glorious Pandas, and others. I ranked them on the video. I also made a costing for your reference!
@@Magniboards thanks for answering my concern 😍
Yeah, no worries! 🥂
what's the drink in the intro?
Did you have any issues with the switches in a hot swap board? I've made a handful with the kiwi bottoms/ lumia stem/ boba top and have some issues with the switches not registering
I haven't tried these myself, but I've tried bykos, issue is the boba top doesn't retain the leaf, so when you push it in to a hot swap the leaf gets pushed up slightly.
I've seen people pull on the legs from the back of the pcb when soldering to make sure the leaf sits at the bottom of the housing. Im guessing it's the same with these sojus.
@@unzinn2014 Yeah i've realized the issue so far is that when I just have the legs contact the sockets, the switch works just fine, but when the switch is fully seated that's when the issues occur. I had better luck with zykos and cherry tops (since the boba tops don't have that little prong to keep the leaf in place) but the boba tops just sound so much better.
I really dont recommend them to hotswap boards due to the incompatibility of the top housing. It's quite similar to the issues with Zykos so it's always best to solder them. I do use them on a reversed-millmax board.
@@Magniboards Thanks!
Anyone like these better than Bykos? I currently have Bykos and quite doubtful whether I could go with another switch.
Edit: I was correct. Bykos are better imo. But still great switches.
The most tactile switch I've ever used (that was still useable) are blueberry stems in koala housings (or t1)
Nice! I'd have to give that a try!
What is that song that u used during the intro b-roll?? Lowkey kinda slaps :D
What keycaps did u use on the keyboard when you were demontrating the switches?
Wait I’m confused??? U added kiwi bottoms which are more shallower yet got an even deeper sound than the already deep ass bykos??? Which have “deeper” (as In less shallow) bottom housing??? Whaaaaaat?
Deep or deeper is purely based on my opnion. Based on my testing, Zealbottoms and kiwis are almost the same in depth. There are so many factors affecting sound. Thats why I mentioned you should also do your own tests.
@@Magniboards which one of the two housing had the “deeper” sound in ur opinion cuz in the video it was clearly the soju switches by far
@@fiiroze Yes, the Sojus, but I think the diffirence is really minute to be honest, you cant go wrong with both. Kiwi bottoms were just less of a hassle to use on millmaxed boards and the sound did improve by a bit based on my standards. Plus, no need to sand the legs when using millmax sockets as opposed to Zealpc bottoms.
@@Magniboards yh true, oh yh one last thing this whole soju video just put my “ bykos is the best endgame tactile switch “ in the mud to be dead honest and so I was comparing the two and although the lumia and halo clear/true stems are the same length - are the tactile legs the complete same shape too like a full on 1:1 copy? I know u mentioned it in the bud however I said apparently😂If not which is more tactile?
They look and feel the same to me 🤷 if they are different, you'll barely notice it. bykos is an awesome switch too, not too far from Sojus. But I like the Sojus a bit better, I have tested them both, but it all boils down to preference. 🥂
no switches were harmed in the making of the video
definitely none! Good to have you here!
Hey man, i really love the video as well as the sound of the switches so i tried making a batch myself, but it seems some of the switches do not actuate. Im not sure what the issue is, but whenever i dont use a kiwi top, the same issue occurs. Is this because i got a bad batch? I would really appreciate some help.
It's mostly because the leaf of the switch has been moved. Switches that don't actuate will either seem like a linear or isn't as tactile as switches that work. I've done some troubleshooting for a friend and this has been the case.
@@Magniboards oh i see, do you have any idea how to fix it? Im using a hotswap board
It's usually an issue with hotswap boards because the boba tops doesn't hold the leafs in place. But if you did a reverse solder, like what I did with my F1-8x, the sockets are a bit looser compared to kaihl sockets, which can prevent the issues. In your case, if the switch leaves have been moved, the switch itself is already "broken" :( so be extra careful in opening and closing the switches. The best practice I do is connect the board while I put the switches in while on keyboard tester.
@@Magniboards aw what a shame :(. I spent 3+ hrs lubing and filming them and I really loved the sound and feel. I guess I’ll try something else, bu I also want to ask about the boba top. I’m not sure if it’s QC issues but some of my Lumia stems don’t travel smoothly and It causes an inconsistent feel across the board. Do you know any way to fix this / an alternative to the boba top that gives a similar feel? I might try holy bobas using the Lumia stem.
@@stennn8624 I'm not entirely sure. someone also mentioned this to me but Gazzew confirmed there was no issues with Boba tops. I have not come across this issue myself. I've been very high with my QC and the only issues I've had are the misalignment of the leaves. You can try halo stems and check if it solves the issues.
Your filmed U4Ts have a noticeably deeper sound than unfilmed. I haven’t seen this anywhere else; do they actually sound deeper in person? And, if they do, what film did you use?