Hey everyone, sorry for the messy upload. I've been dealing with some major issues at home, including losing access to my account and regaining it. I decided to take a step back for a bit. This video was halfway done and was requested by a good friend of mine on RUclips @3Xmedic I’ll continue uploading on RUclips, but I need to get my head in the right space first and focus on my development work for my gaming studio. I’ll still be uploading content, and I’ll finish the car list Forza vs GT. Plus, I have the Pro version coming, so expect a lot more uploads once it's here. I just need to get my life back on track first. Thanks for understanding, guys! I think once AC Evo is out, it’ll be the new game to compare against. I was planning on doing some new test drive videos to see how it compares to Horizon and The Crew, but man, that game was such a mess!
It looks like that the quality of the cars in AC Evo is really comparable to GT7, amazing quality. But in terms of quantity, it doesn't get near GT7. But it's ok, they chose quality over quantity, and by the ammount of people working in Kunos it would be really difficult to achieve something similar to GT7
4:31 So satisfying to watch that part, the rant against people defending mediocrity, who don't understand what criticism is and reads it as hate. I absolutely love this speech. Good shit out there! 😂👍🏻 FM did something better in Update 13 actually, like they added a track returning from FM4 that's actually built from the ground up, and added a group of Mustangs. I even heard that the former Audio designer of the game series returned to Turn 10 after working with Polyphony for GT Sport and GT7's engine sounds. But at this rate, Forza still needs to do better. Needs improvements, even if I'd say that GT7 takes the cake as always. Now see, folks? Criticism happens, it does not mean hate. It's to make developers learn their hard lessons to fix their game. Without it, the game will end up going worse and worse.
they are the reason why more and more things suck they dont understand that criticism is needed to keep a healthy quality standart their minds simply avoid any logical thinking its actually insane how many people are like that. i mean the sales numbers of Forza and the amount of fanboys shows that they are a big mass of people that live life without a single thought defending the people who made Forza who are backed up by a multi billion dollar company there is a song in german that says "Du machst dir keine Gedanken, solang die Nutella nicht nach Scheiße schmeckt" which means - "u never have a single thought, as long as ur Nutella doesnt taste like shit" so those people accept mediocre products and only start rebelling or thinking, when things get REALLY REALLY bad. and when its probabaly already to late. they have no foresight. the supposed "haters" are the real fans. I got banned from the Fallout subreddit and the Fallout facebook group, because im one of the few persons who actually loved the real Fallout games and who wants quality in future games.
@@pedro_peyote I feel you, I guess criticism does sound like hate, but it’s actually negative feedback because of how bad a product ended up, and it’s true. Real fans actually said negative things about a new title from the franchise they love because it never played well like the past, so they know what’s going on. People should stop praising and defending mediocrity and see the true side. Because even if they accept unfinished products, they use other games to attack them so they can defend their game that’s been broken for a long time. That’s how they show their act of fanboyism, and it’s seriously getting out of hand nowadays.
You hit the nail on the head! The panel gaps and mesh look 2D on Forza, and looks like proper tangible objects on GT. Like you take off the panels and mesh to swap them out with something else. Forza just looks like the modeled the car whole then drew lines where they thought gaps should be. So sharp, very built from the ground up, so lines.
Yo, this is my first vid here, loved the rant. Recently invested into GT7, as a long time Forza enjoyer, your are 100% correct, I didn't know how much I was missing out until I got GT7. And that doesn't even consider graphics. GT7 ftw, sorry playground game enjoyers.
That started off so calm and then got funny asf. Im. Not going to lie. I had tears of laughter. I've played both maxed. PS5 and ps5pro will have RT. Forza is ok and has decent graphics. They just ain't Gt7's level.
The vast majority of Forza's models are reused from all the way back to early Xbox one and I could be wrong but also 360 era Forza. GTs models are also 3D scans of the actual cars which is why they look so accurate. Some were reused from sport but even then they used the same method to make them, so unless you look hard you're not gonna notice a difference
The Forza Fans (including myself - I loved Forza) should be hating the Dev's for not making a good game instead of defending this crap and attacking other games....
Can you make a video based on the 2017 Civic Type R? I ask because, not many people go in detail with comparison videos. They just show driving around between both games. I can tell you what to look for too: The side skirts, front lip, and rear lip are not clear coated carbon fiber in real life. In Forza they are though. 🙈 It is just a black piece of plastic with a carbon weave "texture" to it. Rough to the tough. No clear coat. Those same pieces above, also have a red pin stripe that goes along all of them. But in Forza, the side akirts have them white. 😂 Also, inside the front wheel wells, in front of the tire, there is white plastic which should be the cars paint color. And behind the wheels, it is white also in Forza when it should be the paint color. All the exterior pieces of the car should be a dark, glossy black. The grille, the eye lids over the headlights, the front bumper pieces that have the foglights, the side window pillars, the rear bumper, and those rear left and right fake vents. All of them should be a glossy, shiny black. Instead, its grayish and they all have a cement looking texture to it. Same with the spolier and lower deck of the spolier. Should be a shiny clear coat black, butbthey look gray. Those left a rear fake vents on the bumper have a RED redlector in them. In Forza they're hard to see. Like a dark red/ brown color. That's wrong. The ORANGE/AMBER reflectors on the front fenders.. well, Forza has them as an orange/brown for some reason. When you go inside the car, all the trim pieces are a fake carbon fiber in real life. You can actually feel the texture to it. In Forza, as always, its glossy/clear coated, and looks like real carbon fiber. They did the same thing to the back of the seats. It's not real carbon fiber, nor are they clear coated. Again, you can feel the texture to it. On the seats, if you look at the part your butt sits on, some reason in Forza, they have these thick black lines going across them. Like the stictching crease. It should be red. The center console where the infotainment screen is, that whole part where it slants downward toward the shifter...it is TOO horizontally slanted. It should be a bit more verticle. I always tell people the proportions of MY car in this game feel off and they think im just trying to talk bad about FM. I'm speaking the truth. I own one. I alao don't get the gray boarder around the screen either. This game doesn't do good with blacks, or screens either. Makes most cars with screens look like LCD screens. Ooening up the engine bay. Looks nicely detailed, but same with the rear seats or any non carbon fiber part on this car, the engine cover in this game is glossy and looks like actual carbon fiber. If i want to nitpick some more, there are these brown lines that should be black. And then, the bottom side of the hood should not be shiny AT ALL. It's not clear coated in real life. Its just painted the color of the car without clear coat. If I want to nitpick even more, if you pan the camera over the top of the hood (while closed) there should be that rubber weather stripping going along where it closes, and a bit more ovee the top of the headlights. A little detail GT7 actually has, as well as getting all of the above done right. There are very slight facelift changes in GT7's since it has the 2020-21 model, and it's the LE version. LE wheels are different. 20-21 models front bumper pieces where the headlight goes has a piece that is the cars color on it. Same with the rear. The shift knob will be different too. And instead of being full touch acreen, they have buttons as well. The 20-21 also changed to those awful Alcantara wheels too. Im sure a curtain someone will say something about me mentioning the problems of this car again. He usually can't help himself with that. Lol. I just wanted to know if you can do a more in-depth look at this car. I mean, if they give us features to view it in a showroom like this, why does it have to look bad AND be wrong?
The dealership has an OEM option to add real carbon fiber to the interior trim pieces, the mirror caps, and the spoiler, but the carbon weaving is red. So if a certain someone tries to bring up dealership options with me again, the normal carbon fiber is not an option. Everything I mention in my comment is 100% accurate and not some comment trying to hate.
hey buddy, really like your comparison videos. In my youth I always played the GT titles from the start to GT5 and loved them. But there was a time I got only an xbox 360 and therefore bought Forza Motorsport 4. Since this time I fell in love with Forza, because in terms of casually starting the game and playing around with upgrading and tuning was a lot easier. But oh boy, Forza lost its passion with every new title and it breaks my heart. All the people defending this mess called FM23 are a big part of the problem. Even after almost one year post launch it's still a mess. the Forza community got scammed and its saddens me. keep your content going🔥
Best way i think you could put it is GT models the car after the car itself where as forza has a hotwheels car in their office they base their models on
As someone who plays both games on controller, I want to say I have a lot of fun with FM because I prefer how it handles and its physics on controller. GT7 is by far a better game, the attention to detail is incredible, the career mode and feeling of progressing are from another galaxy compared with FM (I don't even know why T10 calls FM single-player "career"), car models, overall graphics, e-sports, etc; everything is so much better on GT7! I also own and played a lot of FH5 and the "car view" has better quality than FM! But I'd lie if I said that GT7 has better physics (on controller at least) than FM. Maybe on wheel it's different. That being said, despite FM being much better now than on launch, it's still a massive disappointment taking into account the time they had to develop the game and the lies they told us when marketing the game: not only the "built from the ground up" but also the "The All-New Forza Motorsport is the Most Technically Advanced Racing Game Ever Made".
Probably because you prefer the more arcade physics, or maybe like you said that u didn't try on wheel, but GT7 physics are more realistic, and for me this means better physics, sure not level of AC and RF2, but still pretty good.
@@AdamsRock Not that I prefer arcade physics at all. FM physics on controller only (again I can't speak for wheel) feels more realistic to me than GT7. GT7 is by far the better game but by playing both games on controller I have to say that. Also, despite many many things wrong or lacking with FM, one thing it did well was the physics. Not me seeing this but I could link you to several YT videos from the most known YTers who play sim racers that main GT7, AC or iRacing, and criticized a lot FM in their reviews, but the physics was the aspect they praised.
@@captstealsWhat are your suspension setups like? They make a massive difference in terms of car feel, and the default setups for the fully customizable suspension on road cars is genuinely awful.
5:17 Lol why is bro screaming at the comments from fanboys 😭😭, dude I love forza i grew up playing the saga and yes I know that gt gives more details havin less cars (forza has quantity and gt has quality) but damn who is gonna stop and see the details in a race uh?, that’s the only point I’ll left here because damn I didn’t knew people were still comparing both games when forza Motorsport was released I think a year ago so i don’t see why would you guys still comparing them and the fights of fanboys are boring and you know, every game has their advantages and disadvantages when being compared to other games.
How have GT got their cars to look better than real life? Got Forza on PC and enjoying it. Also using a wheel (compatible with the PS5 just in case I get one). Hope you get things sorted out though, life is hard!
Hey mate, Because I'm so disappointed with M$ and their poor programmed cash grab, I bought myself all PS5, PSVR2 and Gran Turismo and wow, what could I say, the quality of Japanese expertise in programming is on another level. The depth in detail is astonishing. I'm on the Xbox since the 360, my last PS was the 2. But with this FM crap, M$ totally lost me as a customer because their only on making the most cash out of the customer and Forza just proved that on their f*ckin 'build from the ground up' BS. I totally fell on that and spend 120€ for this crap. I'm glad that I find your channel to open my eyes. Advice to the Forza fankids, do yourself a favor and make yourself an honest opinion after you get your hands on GT7 yourself and then admit the mistake that you defended M$ for BS!!
I would love for you to do the Hyundai Veloster N. I have a few gripes about the car model in Forza- especially in the interior since it doesn’t have the correct colors on the buttons on the steering wheel. I have one in real life and I think they got lazy half way through with the car model
Although I'm out of the console game and have been for quite some time, gt was more of a fun and uniform driving experience for me. My friend loves Forza and ive entertained it. Even tried the last game to see how it was on a wheel. I wasn't impressed. Even Gr7 d underwhelming to me. I have more fun playing AC and ACC on pc. Just more realistic with a more detailed tire model. Graphics are cool but realistic feel and an authentic racing experience is more of a draw to me
😂😂😂 The accent when you rant makes it all better. No hate here. Just saying. Reminds me of this video i saw of this little boy with your accent saying he'll upercut Santa. 😂 One thing I notice all the time, especially both my cars, is like you said. Everything is so sharp. The curves around panels look like they can cut you. I hate that it looks that way. When in real life, they're smoother. And I have no idea why they changed the showroom in Forza like a few updates ago or whenever, juat to make it always dark. It sucks. You can't see anything. Its as if they are aware the cars don't look that good, so they hide them in a dark room. Then you have all these really shiny parts all over, giving the car a more toy look to it. Its wierd. Like your video just looking into the interior in the DARK, and all these shiny pieces are just bling blingin' all over. Looks ridiculous.
Crazy assetto corsa looks better than forza lol. I reinstalled forza to see how update 14 was and I literally spent about 2 hours tweaking settings running on 3080 and couldn't get the game even close to assetto
I play both and enjoy both but PD just put more effort into the quality of the vehicles and its clearly evident. Does that mean Forza looks bad? Hell nah. Forza looks amazing and still looks better than most racing games but GT just has a little more depth of quality and fanboys should be able to understand that. I don’t even understand how people become fanboys. Im a car enthusiast so I just play any and every racing game for cars. I play the Crew, Forza, GT, Assetto Corsa, NFS, CarX, freakin CSR 2 on mobile I just play for the cars, these brands don’t pay me for me to be kissing their ass for free on the internet
do you have better content to do than posting about how bad fm is based on that gt7 car models are better where (new ones) forza models dont look bad and thats it? man, thats a shame
AC Evo doesn't look good, gameplay is out. It's no match for GT7 or Forza. We know Forzas car look bad when they improve the cars then we should compare again until then no point
@@andreasmoller9798 yes fair enough, but if Forza in some areas looks better than GT7 like environments then it automatically looks better then Evo. Evo is a pure simulator, no good effects filter so can be boring looking I guess
@Mr.Kumar1 The environments lack any real accuracy in forza though. Shoving a bunch of fully 3d trees to distract from every other asset being bad doesn't make it look good at all.
Gt looks great. No one denies that. But take visuals out of it and play the game. Forza plays better. You mentioned bland visuals, but what about bland gameplay. Gt 7 isn't that fun anymore. And when you get an update, they give you a van?! If you like staring at cars in the showroom, great. I'd rather enjoy the game. And the ranting pal, its just daft.
There is a full generation difference between the two. Even the NEW models in FM are absolute ASS compared to ALL other big games from this generation. Worse than GT7 Worse than Crew Motorfest Worse than FH5 and even worse than FH4.... Worse than even NFS Unbound
@Wyn3e Yes, as you wish!) This is my opinion and it does not have to coincide with yours, just as mine does not coincide with the author of this channel!
Can the GT open the hood? Does GT have an engine? Of course, for GT fans, it doesn't matter, it's just that a certain screw inside the magnifying glass is finer, and then GT fans win ruclips.net/video/N02rSo2rWqs/видео.html
Another crapper, and youre just back. "You can see the panels, you can see the poligons". Mmhhh. Go and check out the real car. The front wing is shaped exactly like the forza model, it has that more defined curve to it. The gt model is far to smooth. Easily provable. Yes dodge is on the lights, again on the forza model. Haven't seen those black plastic backings gt has on the handles either on any of the inages ive seen. I think youll find its the gt model that looks like plastic in the garage, poor reflections to boot. Can't open the doors, can't see the details around the doors, can't open the boot or see the detail there in gt, nor the engine bay. You keep just saying words like "look at the panels" and you don't evn know what youre looking at. The only thing the gt model does better is the coreect paint texture of the wheels, forzas is to shiny. Buy other than that, the Forza model is accurate, more accurate from what i can see. Perhaps do a bit of digging before making these videos. And that rant🥱🥱🥱
Another car comparison when we all know gt is gonna win holy shit all this for clicks from ps fanboys Compare something else and watch how you dont get views😂
You need to understand how stupid your comment is. COMPARISONS EXIST. Many channels do it. This is something going on long before you were born. It's also for Forza fAnBoYs, ya wierdo.
Guess my comment isn't part of YT standards to be showing without filtering the comments to newest, yet this person can cuss. What is wrong with YT censorship? So backwards like the Forza penalty system.
Hey everyone, sorry for the messy upload. I've been dealing with some major issues at home, including losing access to my account and regaining it. I decided to take a step back for a bit. This video was halfway done and was requested by a good friend of mine on RUclips @3Xmedic
I’ll continue uploading on RUclips, but I need to get my head in the right space first and focus on my development work for my gaming studio. I’ll still be uploading content, and I’ll finish the car list Forza vs GT. Plus, I have the Pro version coming, so expect a lot more uploads once it's here. I just need to get my life back on track first. Thanks for understanding, guys!
I think once AC Evo is out, it’ll be the new game to compare against. I was planning on doing some new test drive videos to see how it compares to Horizon and The Crew, but man, that game was such a mess!
I've been waiting for this! Glad to see you back mate! I appreciate the shout out!
AC evo wouldn't be as high lvl as gt7 100%. In terms of graphics AC possibly gonna be after Forza Motorsport.
FM is gonna die completely once AC evo is released.
cant wait too. This will teach turn10 devs to release a *finished* product and not blatantly lie to our faces in marketing
@@kedwyd6535 Agreed 👍
By looks of things ac evo could be massive.
and GT7 kills ACE effortlessly
stop stealing models from GT7 , shameless ducking AC
Imagine GT level car detail with "Real Simulator" physics! next step would be to drive irl
A Japanese studio made an American car better than an American studio. Lol.
Cause Kazunori loves cars and its back there with a whip making sure the modelers get it right lol
Of course the developers of gt7 always use insane attention to details in their game
Isn't forza made in the uk?
@@ocratitudeTurn10 are American developers last time I checked.
@@ocratitude Turn 10 US Playground Games UK
Built at the ground
@@RESHADOW built to ground level
Built from the ground down
Build into the ground 😂😂
Built from ground........beef
I agree forza needs a massive overhaul of there cars why can't the cars look like they do in fh5.
Ac evo vs GT7 is gonna be interesting
No contest, GT7 >>>>>>>>> shitty ACE
Kunos has made some wild strides in car models quality so it's definitely gonna be interesting
The guy is a gt shagger so it’s not really gonna be interesting 😂
It looks like that the quality of the cars in AC Evo is really comparable to GT7, amazing quality.
But in terms of quantity, it doesn't get near GT7. But it's ok, they chose quality over quantity, and by the ammount of people working in Kunos it would be really difficult to achieve something similar to GT7
@MrGuiagui ruclips.net/video/_cqsG7qcgE8/видео.htmlsi=FR4KlhIjaGPWHNki
GT7 kills ACE
lego vs gran turismo 7
Ferrari hired Forza designers for the F80
Don't disrespect lego like that
5:12-5:32 greatest rant of all time! 😅
The haters are gonna hate, just ignore them mate.
Still hoping for the 2012 SRT8 to come back in both games..
4:31 So satisfying to watch that part, the rant against people defending mediocrity, who don't understand what criticism is and reads it as hate. I absolutely love this speech. Good shit out there! 😂👍🏻
FM did something better in Update 13 actually, like they added a track returning from FM4 that's actually built from the ground up, and added a group of Mustangs. I even heard that the former Audio designer of the game series returned to Turn 10 after working with Polyphony for GT Sport and GT7's engine sounds. But at this rate, Forza still needs to do better. Needs improvements, even if I'd say that GT7 takes the cake as always.
Now see, folks? Criticism happens, it does not mean hate. It's to make developers learn their hard lessons to fix their game. Without it, the game will end up going worse and worse.
they are the reason why more and more things suck
they dont understand that criticism is needed to keep a healthy quality standart
their minds simply avoid any logical thinking
its actually insane how many people are like that.
i mean the sales numbers of Forza and the amount of fanboys shows that they are a big mass of people that live life without a single thought
defending the people who made Forza who are backed up by a multi billion dollar company
there is a song in german that says "Du machst dir keine Gedanken, solang die Nutella nicht nach Scheiße schmeckt"
which means - "u never have a single thought, as long as ur Nutella doesnt taste like shit"
so those people accept mediocre products and only start rebelling or thinking, when things get REALLY REALLY bad.
and when its probabaly already to late.
they have no foresight.
the supposed "haters" are the real fans. I got banned from the Fallout subreddit and the Fallout facebook group, because im one of the few persons who actually loved the real Fallout games and who wants quality in future games.
@@pedro_peyote I feel you, I guess criticism does sound like hate, but it’s actually negative feedback because of how bad a product ended up, and it’s true.
Real fans actually said negative things about a new title from the franchise they love because it never played well like the past, so they know what’s going on. People should stop praising and defending mediocrity and see the true side. Because even if they accept unfinished products, they use other games to attack them so they can defend their game that’s been broken for a long time. That’s how they show their act of fanboyism, and it’s seriously getting out of hand nowadays.
How many people come here for our man's "18+ Messy Rant"? LOL. Never fails to impress :-)
You hit the nail on the head! The panel gaps and mesh look 2D on Forza, and looks like proper tangible objects on GT. Like you take off the panels and mesh to swap them out with something else. Forza just looks like the modeled the car whole then drew lines where they thought gaps should be. So sharp, very built from the ground up, so lines.
Well turn 10 relied everything on ai instead of actually doing the work
Bros back to doing comparisons!
Glad to see you back😃👍
Yes, he recovered his account at last. He got hacked some time ago.
@@Rustic_3851yes heard about that.
Yo, this is my first vid here, loved the rant. Recently invested into GT7, as a long time Forza enjoyer, your are 100% correct, I didn't know how much I was missing out until I got GT7. And that doesn't even consider graphics. GT7 ftw, sorry playground game enjoyers.
@@solb707 Welcome, I’m glad you’re enjoying GT7 it’s a quality built game, it’s a shame Forza Dropped the ball with motorsport tho!
Bro started sounding like the dude from All About The Benjamins 🤣
That started off so calm and then got funny asf. Im. Not going to lie. I had tears of laughter.
I've played both maxed. PS5 and ps5pro will have RT.
Forza is ok and has decent graphics. They just ain't Gt7's level.
Built from the ground up polygons lol
The vast majority of Forza's models are reused from all the way back to early Xbox one and I could be wrong but also 360 era Forza. GTs models are also 3D scans of the actual cars which is why they look so accurate. Some were reused from sport but even then they used the same method to make them, so unless you look hard you're not gonna notice a difference
The Forza Fans (including myself - I loved Forza) should be hating the Dev's for not making a good game instead of defending this crap and attacking other games....
Also the headlights on the Hellcat can feature both the SRT logo or the Dodge logo.
Can you make a video based on the 2017 Civic Type R? I ask because, not many people go in detail with comparison videos. They just show driving around between both games. I can tell you what to look for too:
The side skirts, front lip, and rear lip are not clear coated carbon fiber in real life. In Forza they are though. 🙈 It is just a black piece of plastic with a carbon weave "texture" to it. Rough to the tough. No clear coat.
Those same pieces above, also have a red pin stripe that goes along all of them. But in Forza, the side akirts have them white. 😂
Also, inside the front wheel wells, in front of the tire, there is white plastic which should be the cars paint color. And behind the wheels, it is white also in Forza when it should be the paint color.
All the exterior pieces of the car should be a dark, glossy black. The grille, the eye lids over the headlights, the front bumper pieces that have the foglights, the side window pillars, the rear bumper, and those rear left and right fake vents. All of them should be a glossy, shiny black. Instead, its grayish and they all have a cement looking texture to it. Same with the spolier and lower deck of the spolier. Should be a shiny clear coat black, butbthey look gray.
Those left a rear fake vents on the bumper have a RED redlector in them. In Forza they're hard to see. Like a dark red/ brown color. That's wrong.
The ORANGE/AMBER reflectors on the front fenders.. well, Forza has them as an orange/brown for some reason.
When you go inside the car, all the trim pieces are a fake carbon fiber in real life. You can actually feel the texture to it. In Forza, as always, its glossy/clear coated, and looks like real carbon fiber. They did the same thing to the back of the seats. It's not real carbon fiber, nor are they clear coated. Again, you can feel the texture to it.
On the seats, if you look at the part your butt sits on, some reason in Forza, they have these thick black lines going across them. Like the stictching crease. It should be red.
The center console where the infotainment screen is, that whole part where it slants downward toward the shifter...it is TOO horizontally slanted. It should be a bit more verticle. I always tell people the proportions of MY car in this game feel off and they think im just trying to talk bad about FM. I'm speaking the truth. I own one. I alao don't get the gray boarder around the screen either. This game doesn't do good with blacks, or screens either. Makes most cars with screens look like LCD screens.
Ooening up the engine bay. Looks nicely detailed, but same with the rear seats or any non carbon fiber part on this car, the engine cover in this game is glossy and looks like actual carbon fiber. If i want to nitpick some more, there are these brown lines that should be black. And then, the bottom side of the hood should not be shiny AT ALL. It's not clear coated in real life. Its just painted the color of the car without clear coat.
If I want to nitpick even more, if you pan the camera over the top of the hood (while closed) there should be that rubber weather stripping going along where it closes, and a bit more ovee the top of the headlights. A little detail GT7 actually has, as well as getting all of the above done right.
There are very slight facelift changes in GT7's since it has the 2020-21 model, and it's the LE version. LE wheels are different. 20-21 models front bumper pieces where the headlight goes has a piece that is the cars color on it. Same with the rear. The shift knob will be different too. And instead of being full touch acreen, they have buttons as well. The 20-21 also changed to those awful Alcantara wheels too.
Im sure a curtain someone will say something about me mentioning the problems of this car again. He usually can't help himself with that. Lol. I just wanted to know if you can do a more in-depth look at this car. I mean, if they give us features to view it in a showroom like this, why does it have to look bad AND be wrong?
The dealership has an OEM option to add real carbon fiber to the interior trim pieces, the mirror caps, and the spoiler, but the carbon weaving is red. So if a certain someone tries to bring up dealership options with me again, the normal carbon fiber is not an option. Everything I mention in my comment is 100% accurate and not some comment trying to hate.
subbed for the d1 crashout rant, im a gt fan and i agree
hey buddy,
really like your comparison videos. In my youth I always played the GT titles from the start to GT5 and loved them. But there was a time I got only an xbox 360 and therefore bought Forza Motorsport 4. Since this time I fell in love with Forza, because in terms of casually starting the game and playing around with upgrading and tuning was a lot easier. But oh boy, Forza lost its passion with every new title and it breaks my heart. All the people defending this mess called FM23 are a big part of the problem. Even after almost one year post launch it's still a mess. the Forza community got scammed and its saddens me. keep your content going🔥
Does GT look anything like this on PS4 Pro
i started the video on 5:55 and I was laughing my way through
Best way i think you could put it is GT models the car after the car itself where as forza has a hotwheels car in their office they base their models on
As someone who plays both games on controller, I want to say I have a lot of fun with FM because I prefer how it handles and its physics on controller. GT7 is by far a better game, the attention to detail is incredible, the career mode and feeling of progressing are from another galaxy compared with FM (I don't even know why T10 calls FM single-player "career"), car models, overall graphics, e-sports, etc; everything is so much better on GT7! I also own and played a lot of FH5 and the "car view" has better quality than FM! But I'd lie if I said that GT7 has better physics (on controller at least) than FM. Maybe on wheel it's different. That being said, despite FM being much better now than on launch, it's still a massive disappointment taking into account the time they had to develop the game and the lies they told us when marketing the game: not only the "built from the ground up" but also the "The All-New Forza Motorsport is the Most Technically Advanced Racing Game Ever Made".
Probably because you prefer the more arcade physics, or maybe like you said that u didn't try on wheel, but GT7 physics are more realistic, and for me this means better physics, sure not level of AC and RF2, but still pretty good.
@@AdamsRock Not that I prefer arcade physics at all. FM physics on controller only (again I can't speak for wheel) feels more realistic to me than GT7. GT7 is by far the better game but by playing both games on controller I have to say that. Also, despite many many things wrong or lacking with FM, one thing it did well was the physics. Not me seeing this but I could link you to several YT videos from the most known YTers who play sim racers that main GT7, AC or iRacing, and criticized a lot FM in their reviews, but the physics was the aspect they praised.
@@captstealsWhat are your suspension setups like? They make a massive difference in terms of car feel, and the default setups for the fully customizable suspension on road cars is genuinely awful.
5:17 Lol why is bro screaming at the comments from fanboys 😭😭, dude I love forza i grew up playing the saga and yes I know that gt gives more details havin less cars (forza has quantity and gt has quality) but damn who is gonna stop and see the details in a race uh?, that’s the only point I’ll left here because damn I didn’t knew people were still comparing both games when forza Motorsport was released I think a year ago so i don’t see why would you guys still comparing them and the fights of fanboys are boring and you know, every game has their advantages and disadvantages when being compared to other games.
How have GT got their cars to look better than real life? Got Forza on PC and enjoying it. Also using a wheel (compatible with the PS5 just in case I get one). Hope you get things sorted out though, life is hard!
Hey mate,
Because I'm so disappointed with M$ and their poor programmed cash grab, I bought myself all PS5, PSVR2 and Gran Turismo and wow, what could I say, the quality of Japanese expertise in programming is on another level. The depth in detail is astonishing.
I'm on the Xbox since the 360, my last PS was the 2. But with this FM crap, M$ totally lost me as a customer because their only on making the most cash out of the customer and Forza just proved that on their f*ckin 'build from the ground up' BS. I totally fell on that and spend 120€ for this crap. I'm glad that I find your channel to open my eyes.
Advice to the Forza fankids, do yourself a favor and make yourself an honest opinion after you get your hands on GT7 yourself and then admit the mistake that you defended M$ for BS!!
LOVE YOU MATE ❤! THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH! YEP, FORZA IS PROPERLY SHAGGED NOW! I'M PLAYING FM4 - THAT WAS AND STILL IS A GREAT GAME ☺!
I would love for you to do the Hyundai Veloster N. I have a few gripes about the car model in Forza- especially in the interior since it doesn’t have the correct colors on the buttons on the steering wheel. I have one in real life and I think they got lazy half way through with the car model
Unfortunately they don’t have one in gt7
Why does forza cars look lile plastic toys? I don’t even play motorsport but when you compare them side by side the difference is insane
Although I'm out of the console game and have been for quite some time, gt was more of a fun and uniform driving experience for me. My friend loves Forza and ive entertained it. Even tried the last game to see how it was on a wheel. I wasn't impressed. Even Gr7 d underwhelming to me.
I have more fun playing AC and ACC on pc. Just more realistic with a more detailed tire model. Graphics are cool but realistic feel and an authentic racing experience is more of a draw to me
Salvage title (FM) vs clean title (GT7)
😂😂😂 The accent when you rant makes it all better. No hate here. Just saying. Reminds me of this video i saw of this little boy with your accent saying he'll upercut Santa. 😂
One thing I notice all the time, especially both my cars, is like you said. Everything is so sharp. The curves around panels look like they can cut you. I hate that it looks that way. When in real life, they're smoother.
And I have no idea why they changed the showroom in Forza like a few updates ago or whenever, juat to make it always dark. It sucks. You can't see anything. Its as if they are aware the cars don't look that good, so they hide them in a dark room.
Then you have all these really shiny parts all over, giving the car a more toy look to it. Its wierd. Like your video just looking into the interior in the DARK, and all these shiny pieces are just bling blingin' all over. Looks ridiculous.
Pls Next with challenger hellcat
0:17 Ah yes, Challenger.
@@JonesBrothersProductionsiac 👀👀👀 my bad
Still very disappointed as a fan since FM3
I don't care about opening doors. The quality isn't there, so no matter.
Crazy assetto corsa looks better than forza lol. I reinstalled forza to see how update 14 was and I literally spent about 2 hours tweaking settings running on 3080 and couldn't get the game even close to assetto
I play both and enjoy both but PD just put more effort into the quality of the vehicles and its clearly evident. Does that mean Forza looks bad? Hell nah. Forza looks amazing and still looks better than most racing games but GT just has a little more depth of quality and fanboys should be able to understand that. I don’t even understand how people become fanboys. Im a car enthusiast so I just play any and every racing game for cars. I play the Crew, Forza, GT, Assetto Corsa, NFS, CarX, freakin CSR 2 on mobile I just play for the cars, these brands don’t pay me for me to be kissing their ass for free on the internet
Imagine GT8
Wait till the end of 2026 😁
Imagina como vai ser o GT7 no ps5 Pro.
I fully agree with you bro
GT7 vs FM3, wtf is wrong with T10 🤣
Quantity & Quality
GT7 makes forza look like a mobile game😂
Funny even when the models are new the shaders are wrong... damn even Assetto Corsa modders can do shaders better than forza
the "new" Forza Motorsport absolutely killed the franchise for me.
do you have better content to do than posting about how bad fm is based on that gt7 car models are better where (new ones) forza models dont look bad and thats it? man, thats a shame
try ferrari 355 it looks 90% of GT7 quality
Hellcat vs Shopee HellCat
Charger *
Man this video is so trash. Forza on PC is the best looking racing game there is PERIOD
Lol, love the rant. 😂
AC Evo doesn't look good, gameplay is out. It's no match for GT7 or Forza. We know Forzas car look bad when they improve the cars then we should compare again until then no point
Ac evo looks better than forza of what i could see, closer to gt7 in terms of car model quality,
@@andreasmoller9798 yes fair enough, but if Forza in some areas looks better than GT7 like environments then it automatically looks better then Evo. Evo is a pure simulator, no good effects filter so can be boring looking I guess
@Mr.Kumar1
The environments lack any real accuracy in forza though. Shoving a bunch of fully 3d trees to distract from every other asset being bad doesn't make it look good at all.
Haha ring piece, priceless
Gt looks great. No one denies that. But take visuals out of it and play the game. Forza plays better. You mentioned bland visuals, but what about bland gameplay. Gt 7 isn't that fun anymore. And when you get an update, they give you a van?!
If you like staring at cars in the showroom, great. I'd rather enjoy the game. And the ranting pal, its just daft.
I totally agree with that.
ffm 60598 pumpt
There is a full generation difference between the two. Even the NEW models in FM are absolute ASS compared to ALL other big games from this generation.
Worse than GT7
Worse than Crew Motorfest
Worse than FH5 and even worse than FH4....
Worse than even NFS Unbound
Forza physics = Speedboats
Forza is the best! GT loks beter only on a zoom, and It's played the same way!!!
Me when I lie
@Wyn3e Yes, as you wish!) This is my opinion and it does not have to coincide with yours, just as mine does not coincide with the author of this channel!
@@СергейПетров-н5б2э me when I’m coping
Forza na Xbox 360😂😂😂😂
Forza 🤣🤣🤣 pot noodles 🎉
both games are copy and paste
They've improved the look of Motorsport since launch but the cars still look bad. Especially the materials. Everything looks like plastic.
Can the GT open the hood? Does GT have an engine? Of course, for GT fans, it doesn't matter, it's just that a certain screw inside the magnifying glass is finer, and then GT fans win
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Another crapper, and youre just back. "You can see the panels, you can see the poligons". Mmhhh. Go and check out the real car. The front wing is shaped exactly like the forza model, it has that more defined curve to it. The gt model is far to smooth. Easily provable. Yes dodge is on the lights, again on the forza model. Haven't seen those black plastic backings gt has on the handles either on any of the inages ive seen. I think youll find its the gt model that looks like plastic in the garage, poor reflections to boot. Can't open the doors, can't see the details around the doors, can't open the boot or see the detail there in gt, nor the engine bay. You keep just saying words like "look at the panels" and you don't evn know what youre looking at. The only thing the gt model does better is the coreect paint texture of the wheels, forzas is to shiny. Buy other than that, the Forza model is accurate, more accurate from what i can see. Perhaps do a bit of digging before making these videos. And that rant🥱🥱🥱
TLDR Meat ride Microsoft more maybe it will make your game better 😂
@@red-pm5qgYou're a slow one aren't you??
Another car comparison when we all know gt is gonna win holy shit all this for clicks from ps fanboys
Compare something else and watch how you dont get views😂
You need to understand how stupid your comment is. COMPARISONS EXIST. Many channels do it. This is something going on long before you were born. It's also for Forza fAnBoYs, ya wierdo.
We cant argue against the facts.
Cry 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Not click but he is honest
Guess my comment isn't part of YT standards to be showing without filtering the comments to newest, yet this person can cuss. What is wrong with YT censorship? So backwards like the Forza penalty system.
i hate to be this but, but thats a charger.