2015 Porsche Panamera e Hybrid Plug In PHEV FIRST DRIVE REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2015
- MotoMan drives the new 2015 Porsche Panamera e Hybrid Plug In PHEV - but not in the usual place one takes a Porsche . . . Instead he takes this new Porsche Panamera Plug In Hybrid across town on electric power to showcase a Los Angeles institution . . .
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Nothing about how the car drives at all, which is the most important thing for a car review, I would have thought.
VERY ATTRACTIVE CAR!!
The history of Roscoe's was Gold in this video!
Haha Flash Man you made me flash back to the last few second's of the video & yes that was pretty cool to see that You Tub logo... Thumbs up.
Thanks for the review, I currently have somewhat of a daily commute to work and definitely getting the Panamera but starting to lean towards to the S eHybrid versus the 4S.
Can I just say that color is amazing.. My word.. If I had the money I would spec my panamera like that.
Electric diesel. Use the EV for torque-fill on the turbo-diesel. A setup like this may not yeild the most HP or the greatest sound but the torque would be constant throughout the band and massive. Also include an ECO mode or whatever for city driving in EV only. Setup wouldn't be fantastic on a track car like a GT3 or anything, but in a super-executive weekend canyon carver (If that's a thing) like the Panamera, it would be ideal.
Well done.
i have heard that the e hybrid is much heavier and not as good to drive is that true?
Hybrid power and AWD combined make the perfect modern car. Immense torque from the electric motor and little driveline loss equals immediate acceleration. Decent fuel economy along with immense performance is a win-win for the consumer. Add in AWD, and this Panamera would be perfect for me.
Great video. There's a boutique restaurant here in Lakeland Florida called the Red Door that does the most phenomenal chicken and waffles. Pictures does no justice.
Powertrain? Diesel. They have made huge strides in turbo diesel tech. Or even the turbo diesel/electric that's on the horizon. Should have monstrous torque
It would be cool to see a V6 diesel with the electric motor.
Javon K i think a v8 gasoline is best
Mercedes heard your man, new GLE 450de
@motomantv I like when you dive deep on interior design. Would like to know your opinion on Porsche's design language with all the buttons and infotainment.
+christian Chichester Hey Christian! Funny you ask . . . Have a look at our Buick Cascada TECH REVIEW (ruclips.net/video/e5Pt0hFjGhI/видео.html) - cover there as well as a bit in the upcoming #AskMotoManTV segment shot in Florida with that Panamera GTS. Say hello to Chi-Town for me!
What are your thoughts on the engine and transmission of the 2015 Panamera S e-Hybrid. I believe it uses a Audi engine. How does it compare to a Porsche PDK?
Beautiful car
How much would this car cost right now used ???
Would you say this car is a everyday car? and something you could potentially take on a road trip?
+franchisejr15 Totally would daily this. Road trip? That is the whole point of the PHEV system - EV in town without the fear of the car turning into a door stop if you want to get out of the city . . .
Did anyone else saw the RUclips headquarters near the end of the video in the background??
Good eye! It's actually the RUclips Space LA. That is where we do our some of our production when in LA and all of our post production.
The diesel engine that goes into panameras is actually pretty good. damn shame they dont sell it here in the US.
arash behi my dad had the diesel for a week. It good, but it eats the diesel like a bitch. Not unexpected though.
I can't help thinking this car has been produced to meet some CA automotive regulatory rule. 10 miles in EV mode, $100k+. Porsche should not have bothered.
I would choose more battery pack and thus way more range electric only mode. Also a turbo diesel 4 banger might be a better way to go,...or turbo 6 2.7 liter direct injection!
But with respect to the video.. V6 gas hybrid, power management system,21 miles range from the electric motor with solar power generation options.
I'd like to see a full EV. It'd compete with the Model S but be more luxurious which would be nice.
A range extending diesel-electric combo would do pretty well in this car, at least until full EV capabilities are able to match it. People buying hybrid variants of cars like this aren't the type of people who see a V8 as a necessity, at least I think. Why not just give the maximum amount of range in a comfortable and luxurious package?
Extended EV...or even full EV. Most people buying an electric powered car aren't typically buying it to drive at the track. Yeah we've seen the Tesla 1320 runs...but that's just to show consumers that they see capable of getting in and out of traffic. But the electric car consumer is looking to get the best range from their vehicle while reducing their carbon footprint. But the fact that with an electric vehicle full torque is instantaneous can also be fun.
NA V8 GTS for me, if I had to choose!
New Yorker huh that's what I'm taking about. But yeah the hybrid is needed. The mileage is short. But i guess there testing the waters before a long range one it's built. Never tried that place one day i will. Gj
Gotta give Roscoe's a try . . . an LA institution . . .
I would not get this car in the e Hybrid plug in version. For how much this car is, the small amount of gas you will save will not amount to much, and if someone is paying over 100 grand for a car, do they care about gas mileage?
It's such as huge system for just 12 miles of range. I don't think this system is meant for such a heavy vehicle. I do like the concept of having the option of highway gas, city electric by pushing a simple button. I'm sure those smart engineers in Porsche can find the space for more batteries. If you're in Panamera territory for price, I'm sure a diesel/electric combo would be much better. You hit it on the nose when you said it wasn't meant for the track, it's meant to go from store to boutique to yuppie overpriced sushi, so a diesel engine would work since you don't need high revs, just raw torque.
All E all the time powered by a 3 cylinder natural gas generator.
A turbo diesel with ev fuel economy would be top notch
Music is too loud for the review. So damn annoying.
Unless I could afford the Panamera Turbo S Executive, I wouldn't touch this car; I just don't see how this car can even move with less than 570 hp!(?), even though it does. However, if I had the coin on hand to purchase the Panamera in this trim level, I would much rather a base model Bentley Flying Spur V8 saloon.
Diesel torque.
I would want a Cadillac CTS-V Sport Wagon with an EV Hybrid mode, to me that just sounds like the most awesome competition to the Panamera
The Panamera is gorgeous. Don't care for the green calipers, though. I'd have them repainted.
great video as usual. this panamera e hybrid is a waste, 10-20 miles...really. battery range should be at least 40 miles to make sense to be a hybrid. they can sell you on the fact you can drive in the HOV lane, but this is not a real hybrid. turbo hybrid setup is sweet, just think of the P1. the P1 setup is for performance not fuel econemy, this panamera is for fuel econemy ,10-11 miles real world driving you recieved makes me say by the v6 and keep the extra for gas.
I like my mule.. paid for- eats grass -little to no maintenance and I don't need a garage!
But i digress.
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diesel is dead. it's all about DI Turbo or Direct+Port Injection Turbo. secondly they probably put in torque converter not for the torque, but for the INERTIA of the electric motor. finally i think it is done right the way it is - no need to change anything - they should just throw out all of the models from the range and just keep the E-Hybrid and Turbo S. the E-Hybrid for daily driving and Turbo S for track days. All other models are redundant. I don't know what kind of idiot would buy the base V6 Panamera over a S550 4Matic - that model needs to go - it is fucking embarrassing. Turbo S and E-Hybrid, that's it. And then Ultimately they should drop the Turbo S as well and just boost the E-Hybrid to about 700 HP like the Tesla and just have one model with 80 mpg and 3 sec 0-60.
+g1981c Torque converter is there simply because it's a powertrain originally from Audi. And ZF and I think Aisin too offer sort of a hybrid module for their 8 speed boxes, AFAIK. Hybrid cars are still too marginal and this allows them to reduce costs of having a hybrid on offer. Also, while Audi prefers dual clutch transmissions for EU, they push torque converter automatics to USA. This might have played a role in deciding which transmission to use.
+g1981c As for the rest... I bet you haven't driven even one of them. The base V6 with rear wheel drive and conventional suspension just works. It's nicely balanced and surprisingly pleasurable to drive. It's a completely different animal than a S-Klasse. If you want to have fun, enjoy driving a Panamera, than the best IMO is the GTS. The Turbo (S) is a crazy cruise missile, but it's just mindbogglingly fast, not much else. Aside from the speed, the other two are more pleasurable to drive for me. My pick is the GTS.
+g1981c And just as a footnote: Before the facelift, the Hybrid was the worst driving Panamera on offer. Even the Diesel was better (also from Audi and with TC automatic).
+jobicek i used to drive ( for 3 years ) a naturally aspirated 4.8 V8 RWD BMW 550i E60 which would be pretty close to GTS in terms of configuration and it is just a TERRIBLE way to build a car. no traction off the line and no torque until 4,000 rpm. i never again want to drive a car without AWD or Turbo. i like that with Turbo AWD you press the gas from the red light ( no launch mode or revving or any nonsense ) and it just goes. with NA V8 RWD you press gas and it spins the wheels, then they hook up but there is no torque then revs build up to where the torque is and it begins to spin again - it is fucking bullshit. maybe for you this is "fun" - for me it is bad engineering. the S class may be "boring" but a $100,000 car SHOULD be boring IMO. if you want "fun" buy a 30 year old Mustang for $500 and put nitrous on it or something.
all you wanting the diesel need to get a clue and realize there is a reason nobody makes diesel hybrids - because it's fucking dumb. diesel is dead and buried - get used to it. the future is either DI Gas Hybrid or DI Gas Turbo. Diesel can't match the performance of DI Gas Turbo or the efficiency of DI Gas Hybrid. Yes you can make a Diesel Hybrid then you would have a compact car that weighs like a full size SUV. DUMB.