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Will do. I am going to buy one soon. Your videos have inspired me. Thank you for your help. I had no previous exposure or knowledge of these (euc's) until stumbling onto your videos.
you need to carve to eleminate high speed wobbles lol. your just trying to go strait. no wonder your wobbling. apparently snowboards are like that too.
the ETMax may just be faster in theory, but until people actually have it in hand and ride it no one really knows. But with its lower weight, excellent built quality and crazy performance, ET max will have a hard time beating it.
You probably already know this, when the weather gets cold, I wear a great big mittens, and whenever I started to ride fast, my wheel would tip either to the left or to the right and I thought it was a whole bunch of things but then I realized it’s my aerodynamics and with big mittens you can raise your arm and push on the air. kind of like skydiving. If you raise your right hand, your wheel will tip to the left to compensate if you raise your left hand your wheel will lean to the right. It took a while for me to instinctually do this but now I take total advantage of that effect in corners and to stabilize when riding fast. It’s barely noticeable without big mittens on. With big mittens on it’s undeniable. It’s very uncomfortable when the wheel is leaning, one way or the other, and it feels like there’s nothing you can do about it. I suggest everyone get a big pair of mittens on and play around with it. It will change the way you ride.
Webbed leather gloves, similarly shaped to swim training gloves, might be a new product line the Hsaing could add to his accessories store. Until EUCs get an active gyro-stabilization feature, rider-skill and mechanical design constraints will make riding in turbulent winds a treacherous event. There's good reason to do speed tests in a tunnel, reducing unwanted cross-wind instability is near the top of that list. High-speed cornering and maneuvering will also benefit from mass-gyro control stabilization similar to those used on high-end Ocean Yachts and cruise-liners. Every high-rise in NYC uses a mass-pendulum to offset wind loads and earthquakes, it's only a matter of time before gyro-stabilized EUCs will be necessary to ride safely at high speeds.
DUDE I road with a poster board presentation at 30mph with wind tunnels randomly hitting me and I felt like I was going to lift off. ended up presenting a folded poster board lol.
I would love to know if any of these EUC manufacturers publish the radial and lateral run out tolerances for the rims . I would think that the fastest wheel would be engineered with the tightest numbers .
Engineer's thoughts: First, Power defines performance, while Voltage merely allows for thinner internal wiring and/or less electrical loss. Solar panels struggled through this exact same tradeoff-space over the past three or four-decades and settled at 500 or so Volts as ideal. Moving-parts, water and safety may lower EUC's final 'best-Voltage' somewhat, but it'll be much higher than 150V before this burgeoning industry is finished. Second, max-speed is dominated by wind-resistance (Rwind α ν^2). That's why the night-ride went faster, because of the slicker wind-profile of leather vs cloth, etc.. (more...) Third, Wobble is something design engineer's should be addressing and shouldn't be left solely in the realm of users/riders. Wind profiles (clothing, cameras, etc.) may well come into play. Fourth, overall stability is enhanced by larger diameter wheels (as most riders already know), but racing requires accelerating the mass of that wheel. But it's not just the mass, it's the rotational-mass or so-called inertial-mass that resists acceleration and deceleration. Inertial-mass goes as the square of diameter, but only linear with weight on the scale ...mass (Im α m•D^2). Therefore, wheel diameter dominates in resisting acceleration, which is so important to racers.
Wind was definitely the biggest factor, I never flew in a windsuit but leaning full into 60mph wind on an euc prob come very very close. As none engineer everything I have read so far does point to dynamic for single or 2 wheels devices being super complicated and not well understood. And 60mph EUC is definitely in that area where very few ppl likely know what things helps vs not. And given the small EUC market "engineering" probably still consist of a few guys just building prototypes and trying it out. It is interesting that 60mph is starting to feel like a line that is difficult to cross for eucs, I can tell that exponentially more power will be required to push for just another few mph+
@@OWGAC I think EUC wobbles are pretty simple. If the wheel gets out of alignment with your direction of travel (which tends to happen when there are bumps), then it gets tilted over which causes it to veer around in a curve. It curves around until it points in the other direction, and you have the same problem again and it tilts and veers back the other way. And so on. Anyway, so maybe you can tweak the suspension/tire pressure to handle the bumps better at high speed
when it comes to hub motors, low winding/ high kv hub motors with tiny wheels is the name of the game. You're right about the size of the wheel diameter being the dominant factor. This was proven when some guy over at endlessphere smashed the top speed record for an ebike (around 100mph) trying to prove this point. The record was around 60-70mph before. This was about 10-15yrs ago before surrons and such. Since it was a high kv motor, he didn't have much volts through it maybe around 120v, but threw a lot of amps, couple hundred on a tiny ass wheel. Thats why u see ebikes with smaller rear wheels with hub motors back then before surron came out with their mid drives. problem with the EUCs that i see is the manufacturers are going to larger wheel diameters as they increase power and speed. I guess this is for stability reasons, but to put down power and speed you need the smallest wheel possible, with a low winding hub motor. Anyways thats all i know
@@keokio7 - Good points. Hub-motors will advance to accept higher and higher voltages, just as solar-panel/controllers crept up in voltage over the course of thirty or more years. And while smaller-diameter wheels might always have advantages in racing, few EUC customers want anything to do with racing or small-diameter wheels. In fact, the likely trend will be toward larger-diameter wheels with bigger battery capacity and of course, higher-Voltages. Larger wheels are much safer over bumps and potholes. Yes, larger-diameter wheels have more more stability too. Industry learns a lot from racing, but vast volume of customers want better shock-absorbers and bigger batteries.
@@SkeptikosUTube That being the case, it seems that initiating a slight turn in either direction would be the best way to recover from a wobble, rather than trying to steer straight ahead, which would seem to cause the rider to continue the oscillation. Big guess from me. I don't ride (too old), but I wish....
When I saw your wheel shake my heart dropped and I wasn't the one riding! Glad you made it out ok. Thank you for that amazing footage! You are the man!
Love the Bullitt style, but probably not the best helmet for the winter without modifications. Lots of wind coming through the visor that causes whistling, and probably why his eyes are so teary from the cold air. Can modify it with some felt around the visor.
I just want to point out that the Sherman S is no slouch when it comes to speed. I saw a race video out of Spain where an SS out accelerated a Commander Pro and the rider took first place. That being said, the Lynx looks amazing
I absolutely love the Lynx so far. It’s more powerful than I’ll ever need and has incredible acceleration with minimal effort. Suspension is top of the line and the build quality is probably the best I’ve seen on any EUC. It’s well balanced, comfortable, fast af, and fairly light weight and nimble. Best wheel I’ve ever ridden, no doubt about it. The only enthusiasts that shouldn’t buy the Lynx are the long range cruisers that need a master pro.
@@cenciende9401 it’s pricy for sure. But I said enthusiast, not casual 😁 most of the riders I know have multiple EUC’s. I sold all of mine to buy the Lynx.
@@Rapha194Lynx has much better suspension and a higher top speed. V14 is more maneuverable and faster acceleration. Suspension on the V14 is not as comfortable but good for off-road and big bumps. Lynx is better at absorbing small imperfections in the road. Lynx will be more stable at higher speeds as well. Lynx is better in most ways but more expensive. They are very different wheels for different uses.
I own the s22 , ex-30 & for 2 weeks now the LYNX & I love all 3 and at this moment I am riding the Lynx most of the time but any of these 3 wheel are great and imo if 35 mph is fine to cruise at then you do not need to upgrade from the s-22 (not pro) as I just went on a ride & that wheel is so under appreciated i feel, I love the instant acceleration the s22 gives and how light it is but it has no where near the torgue of the ex-30 or the lynx and one thing I will say is the lynx's power actually makes it the safest wheel as I was going down a trail here in Jersey and I am riding on the street tire ( wanted to finally try a street tire since I always have knobbies) and I hit a part in this trail that was complete black slick mud and because of the power of the lynx it wouldnt let me go down & of course my balance helped but i dont thing either of the other wheels I have would have don't this and it is because of this motor and the non cut out... it was amazing to be able to make it out of that part of the trail .... My MIND WAS BLOWN from that... but anyway EUC's from leaperkim just feel like they are made better now that i have one from them too... great video & i couldnt agree more.
are you glad you went with the street? I cannot decide.. Chooches latest vid has me leaning back over to the tubeless side and also the added range. I just want to be able to ride trails when needed idk idk
@@flowsolo i went with the street just to try the tubeless & i ride mostly trails and in hard pack single track ftype trails it rides even better or just as good as a knobby the only thing is the softer stuff.. I love that its tubeless & I can always throw a knobby on it if I need to but I am really liking the street tire it comes with as its almost like an enduro tire, if you get it you will like it with whatever tire u get it with, like I said I never had a street tire on my other euc's and that was the main reason and being tubeless helped but it ended up a good choice even though I mainly am offroad... Best of luck mate
@@claudionyc That wheel is awesome & every new wheel i see I want to buy & have a few times & i stilll love my s22... it just has that nice light zippy feel (esp if you flip your pedals to make them more forward) the pedal flipping made it feel so much more Zippy... Great wheel & glad you are loving it.
That laughter at the end of the final speed run was funny. A little bit more and this is a totally different video so, I think it was time to go home. 🤣
It was pulling to the left because of the air drag on your arm and camera out the right side. Try adding air resistance out each side , at high speed, and you’ll get a lean in the opposite direction! As always, great video!
Hsiang, your videos are so clear and sharp especially at night! what do you film and edit with? I use 360 insta 3x and do not even get close to your video clarity ??. One year ago I found your channel, watch all your videos ... bought a cheap wheel thinking I would not be able to stand on it. Now I can not wait to ride at least once a day, everyday! Your EUC love and info you share, changed my life for the better! Thank you dude!!
I had a insta360 x2 but its really not great in low light, I recently upgraded to the insta360 1 inch 360 mod and its a lot better about on par with a gopro (when zoomed in). but thank you glad I was able to help pull you into this great hobby!!
Regarding the Lynx pulling to the left, I have had alignment issues with my Sherman S where it pulls to the right. After aligning my wheel and still finding it pulls to the right, I realized it had to do with my shoes. My left shoe is always easier to tighten than my right shoe (I'm a lefty, so my left side of my body is bulkier and thus easier to fasten into the same size shoes), which gives my left side more control than my right. This means I can't control my weight on the right side of my body as well, making the wheel dip to the right. The solution, take extra care to balance the tightness of my shoelaces.
I've been waiting for this review! This wheel is simply too much, in all the right ways. Imma buy it... knowing that I'll never come close to redlining this wheel, hahaha
You can't redline it. It won't cut out...ever. And can travel 15mph on 0 battery. And has a low battery mode that will get you home when out of battery. Gonna be hard to convince me to buy a different wheel in February.
I mean, if this ends being the wheel that everyone is calling it out to be (we'll see how long term first batch goes), this might very well be the wheel that makes me retire my motorcycle riding. My wife would be relieved....... so long as I don't tell her how fast this thing can go, lol. @@TheHitman-
I do have to say that consistently I hear very little problems for Veteran wheels. and on the EUC forum fire thread it is also the only brand that haven't had a fire yet.
LK definitely stepped up nicely with this wheel. Inmotion can do this now with 125v. Not sure why they don’t unlock the ability of the V13, do the same with V14 and Raptorize the V12, and clean up. Curious to see a breakdown video of this wheel as well as a review, stats of an hour long, spirited true 50mph riding in the streets. *noting rider weights, especially in performance tests/reviews would be beneficial info. Thank you for your intelligent and coherent content. I have yet to waste a minute watching your videos. Cheers
my guess would be that no EUC company test their wheels above 50mph, so wheel behavior that that kind of speed don't receive the same amount of tunning as lower speed. But even with the Lynx I don't think 50mph+ are practical, you really need perfect conditions to offset the risk of pushing the wheel this hard..
@@OWGAC Correct i have had my Fancy mode V13 up to 60MPH and it become very sketchy the wind will train track the euc into corners also for Inmotion at present its about safety Inmotion gave 4 riders the unlock and from the data no one went over 55mph for very long if at all once unlocked.
I guess we will see where the line is drawn with the performance envelopes. Not sure why IM couldn’t unlock #5 and let me rip it down streets. Lynx is looking good for street flowing! Thanks for reply.
Begode EX30 goes beyond 60mph with the new firmware. It's been known for a while now. Also, one Russian dude after modifying his motor on the Master, hit 111 kmph speed, which is 69 mph. That's shot on video. Crazy fast. But without the mods, Begode EX30 is doing a job of reaching around 62 mph. So, I don't know what the Lynx hype is all about.
I don't ride these or intend to get one... but I do ride a BMX around Manhattan. This video is a joy to watch haha. It makes me want to drag the bike out and go for a run downtown. Nothing to add. Just bumping 💪
The performance is a requirement for me because most roads where I live are 45mph speed limit. If I want to go anywhere beyond my neighborhood, it's 2 45mph roads that lead to downtown and more neighborhoods. Other options I wouldn't feel safe maxing out at 42mph or so, people drive around 50mph on these roads despite the speed limit.
Awesome video! I'm not a racer, but I do occasionally commute around cars going 45mph+ so I'm looking at either the Sherman S or Lynx. The longest recreational ride I'd regularly do is a 30 mile loop and both wheels can do that with some room to spare, especially at the speeds allowed there. What has me torn is the new safety features on the Lynx. A smart bms sounds like the way to go for a wheel that I hope will carry me for a few years. I'd definitely pick the Sherman S if kt had the same updated systems, so I find myself just holding out for a wheel that has both
I think if EUC tires could be balanced it might help with wobbles further. I haven't heard of anyone doing that but I don't hear everything. That or tape a shake weight across the front so it can do mass damping and absorb the oscillation energy.
Mad man trying to hit those speeds in that weather. Hard to tell, but almost looks like you went into a divot in the road when you hit 58 and the wheel spun up a bit more with the loss of traction. Got those cold weather teary eyes. Hated riding my motorcycle in the cold because of that. You'd definitely get a bit more traction and less wind resistance in warmer weather, maybe a few less wobbly wobbles and feeling like you're riding on ice. Maybe there's a winter tire with a softer rubber compound available.
Eluniphcyco was it I probably spelt it wrong hit 107 on master pro v3 I think... over a hundred sustained. Tho those big heavey wheels are very different to ride, the mid size is playful. I find the old monster v3 it's 2400wh sure is easy weight to throw around while riding.
if you have long enough road and is willing to push the wheel way further than I dare then you'll probably still be faster on the Lynx. Higher voltage and straight up more power.
It helps to use your arms like a sky diver to move left to right if your pushing over 35 mph. The right arm will make you go left and the left arm will make you go right. So if you have a selfie stick, depending what hand is holding it will effect you direction.
Honestly I been riding the Lynx a whole lot, its not that much larger than an 16incher and weight the same. But if you don't need extreme speed then a 16inchers like the Patton or Extreme will definitely be "more convenient" as they are smaller.
How do u value the fun, thrill, rush and excitement of getting a new state of the art one wheeled machine that goes 60 mph? Impossible (imo)! Also, test the speed seated or is that considered cheating? Seated is the only way I ride high speed on my Master because of its poor stability. Can’t wait for my Lynx to arrive and I don’t need to go 60 to enjoy a great ride. Thanks for the try and still loving ur videos!
you have to lean really really hard to get it to accelerate past 55 and I honestly don't think you'll have enough leverage seated, but then again if you have a lot of room, you can just slowly inch your way up maybe? certainly better for wind.
I do like the wheel, but notice the toe jump pad has a spike poking back the wrong way just above the wing nut. Another great vid Hsiang, dood knee pads.
I actually really like that toe pad since I do pull on it regularly and its nice that its so well anchored, but I know exactly what you mean bout that spike, if I have the chance I probably try to shave it down a bit.
@@OWGAC I would have hacksaw on in in seconds. Then I could sit and no shin spiker. It's an awsome wheel tho. I like the bolt on toe jump pad to, but it can be better still in my opinion.
Considering all apps (& speedometers digital or analog) have a ~10% margin of error (usually lower), 60mph is still the endgame that not been easily reached as of now atleast. So to call the Lynx the fastest EUC is a misnomer. That said, for sure its right up there with all of them. To be fair, I see a similar performance for the incoming ET Max as well. While most things are subjective, incl build quality, no doubt the 40kg is a great +. We shall see how it performs in a direct vs with the Max. Let the games begin
I don't get how the front handle gets in the way of leaning. I have a Lynx and the only issue I have with them is how they limit pad placement. But with pads (as most of us have) as your knees don't bend the other way, you don't hit it. Edit: I see that he has his pads down lower than I do. Mine are as high as his rear pads.
yes in a normal setup its fine, but I had to set my front pads super low so I can lean deeper for high speed. Not a problem for "normal" wheels but problem for a "race" wheel I think.
WTF... How safe do you feel with that toy helmet!?!? That chin guard looks like a wire😆 At least you should wear a full downhill helmet. These electric vehicles are no joke. Stay safe dude.
get to know these wheels .. look past the initial review... the Sherman S can be unlocked to "High Speed Mode" I would argue The Sherman S can keep up and beat the Lynx and many of the top wheels in its current state.. As Zen Lee found out one of his race against it .. .. now when the Lynx (currently Locked ) is unlocked its gonna be a beast .. to compare the Lynx to the S this way is comparing Apples to oranges..
Skill is a huge component when it comes to racing, matter fact I think its like 90% skills and 10% performance. so fact that someone beat Zen Lee with a sherman S don't mean that it is faster, give that guy a Lynx and see how fast he can really go!
Hi! Big fan and love your videos. I am a long time skate boarder and currently use a Penny Australia nickle board to commute + bus. I really want to learn to ride an E-UC. Which one would you recommend for my first one to learn how to ride? I am a pretty quick learner. Thanks! ^_^
I'd say the most confortable seated EUC would be the Begode Master Pro, by a long shot, but of course this is just my opinion and experience. Great video! ❤
These wobbles came maybe from high height of pedals . I like Sherman OG low position . Top stability as it can be possilbe . Thats my bigest concern to change the wheel . Or wait for Begode ET max with adjustable pedal height . Or just stay on Sherman :)
The most impressive feature of the Lynx that many gloss over is NO CUT OUTS. That should be standard for ALL wheels...Cut Out should have NEVER been a thing to begin with
What jacket is that? I think I'm reading ACG; is that a high vis motorcycle jacket? I just bought a high vis black shirt kinda like that, but I realized I should buy a motorcycle version that can hold up in a slide. Cheers~
Great review; Capability wise, Lynx might be the fastest wheel till now, although LK limited the top speed; I remember Roj hit 65.4 mph on the master pro; bigger diameter wheel generally will be more stable in high speed; but 20” seems to be the sweet spot for most people;
that was a 20" on Rogers ex30 that was wheel speed so more way off (still fast). I own both the lynx & ex-30 & both great wheels the biggest difference is the lynx will not cut out period... safest wheel yet.
@@samuelju9247 yes i agree but I couldnt get the lynx to cut out & I am a 6'4" 270lb guy & did tests and it didnt cut out.. I live on 5 miles from the beach & tried what ZeN also tried firguring it would cut out & it didnt... I 100 % know anywheel will cut out so I worded it wrong its I havent been able to cut the lynx out but the ex30 cuts out much easier... thats the only diff I notice beside the obvious weight.
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Hi. How many miles total have you ridden euc? asking for a friend.
Will do. I am going to buy one soon. Your videos have inspired me. Thank you for your help. I had no previous exposure or knowledge of these (euc's) until stumbling onto your videos.
@OWGAC Where to buy those pads on the video? I don't think it's Clarks or Grizzla
you need to carve to eleminate high speed wobbles lol. your just trying to go strait. no wonder your wobbling. apparently snowboards are like that too.
You are out on the edge of life buddy, 50+ MPH on a EUC!!! Thanks for sharing, respect.
😂. The Community Wants even faster . or so it seems
For now the Lynx is the pinnacle wheel and earns its place as a landmark in EUC history just like the original Sherman once did.
the ETMax may just be faster in theory, but until people actually have it in hand and ride it no one really knows. But with its lower weight, excellent built quality and crazy performance, ET max will have a hard time beating it.
I agree a good balance of weight and speed is what I really wanted along with agility and fun
The v3 master pro is faster than the lynx
Are these not legal in the states?
You probably already know this, when the weather gets cold, I wear a great big mittens, and whenever I started to ride fast, my wheel would tip either to the left or to the right and I thought it was a whole bunch of things but then I realized it’s my aerodynamics and with big mittens you can raise your arm and push on the air. kind of like skydiving. If you raise your right hand, your wheel will tip to the left to compensate if you raise your left hand your wheel will lean to the right. It took a while for me to instinctually do this but now I take total advantage of that effect in corners and to stabilize when riding fast. It’s barely noticeable without big mittens on. With big mittens on it’s undeniable. It’s very uncomfortable when the wheel is leaning, one way or the other, and it feels like there’s nothing you can do about it. I suggest everyone get a big pair of mittens on and play around with it. It will change the way you ride.
Webbed leather gloves, similarly shaped to swim training gloves, might be a new product line the Hsaing could add to his accessories store. Until EUCs get an active gyro-stabilization feature, rider-skill and mechanical design constraints will make riding in turbulent winds a treacherous event. There's good reason to do speed tests in a tunnel, reducing unwanted cross-wind instability is near the top of that list. High-speed cornering and maneuvering will also benefit from mass-gyro control stabilization similar to those used on high-end Ocean Yachts and cruise-liners. Every high-rise in NYC uses a mass-pendulum to offset wind loads and earthquakes, it's only a matter of time before gyro-stabilized EUCs will be necessary to ride safely at high speeds.
I can't stick the middle finger to motorists with mittens on 😂
DUDE I road with a poster board presentation at 30mph with wind tunnels randomly hitting me and I felt like I was going to lift off. ended up presenting a folded poster board lol.
yes! when going fast i like to kinda stock my arms out like wings a little for balance and directing windflow
I would love to know if any of these EUC manufacturers publish the radial and lateral run out tolerances for the rims . I would think that the fastest wheel would be engineered with the tightest numbers .
This guy is taking organ delivery to a new level.
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Engineer's thoughts: First, Power defines performance, while Voltage merely allows for thinner internal wiring and/or less electrical loss. Solar panels struggled through this exact same tradeoff-space over the past three or four-decades and settled at 500 or so Volts as ideal. Moving-parts, water and safety may lower EUC's final 'best-Voltage' somewhat, but it'll be much higher than 150V before this burgeoning industry is finished. Second, max-speed is dominated by wind-resistance (Rwind α ν^2). That's why the night-ride went faster, because of the slicker wind-profile of leather vs cloth, etc.. (more...)
Third, Wobble is something design engineer's should be addressing and shouldn't be left solely in the realm of users/riders. Wind profiles (clothing, cameras, etc.) may well come into play. Fourth, overall stability is enhanced by larger diameter wheels (as most riders already know), but racing requires accelerating the mass of that wheel. But it's not just the mass, it's the rotational-mass or so-called inertial-mass that resists acceleration and deceleration. Inertial-mass goes as the square of diameter, but only linear with weight on the scale ...mass (Im α m•D^2). Therefore, wheel diameter dominates in resisting acceleration, which is so important to racers.
Wind was definitely the biggest factor, I never flew in a windsuit but leaning full into 60mph wind on an euc prob come very very close. As none engineer everything I have read so far does point to dynamic for single or 2 wheels devices being super complicated and not well understood. And 60mph EUC is definitely in that area where very few ppl likely know what things helps vs not. And given the small EUC market "engineering" probably still consist of a few guys just building prototypes and trying it out. It is interesting that 60mph is starting to feel like a line that is difficult to cross for eucs, I can tell that exponentially more power will be required to push for just another few mph+
@@OWGAC I think EUC wobbles are pretty simple. If the wheel gets out of alignment with your direction of travel (which tends to happen when there are bumps), then it gets tilted over which causes it to veer around in a curve. It curves around until it points in the other direction, and you have the same problem again and it tilts and veers back the other way. And so on.
Anyway, so maybe you can tweak the suspension/tire pressure to handle the bumps better at high speed
when it comes to hub motors, low winding/ high kv hub motors with tiny wheels is the name of the game. You're right about the size of the wheel diameter being the dominant factor. This was proven when some guy over at endlessphere smashed the top speed record for an ebike (around 100mph) trying to prove this point. The record was around 60-70mph before. This was about 10-15yrs ago before surrons and such. Since it was a high kv motor, he didn't have much volts through it maybe around 120v, but threw a lot of amps, couple hundred on a tiny ass wheel. Thats why u see ebikes with smaller rear wheels with hub motors back then before surron came out with their mid drives.
problem with the EUCs that i see is the manufacturers are going to larger wheel diameters as they increase power and speed. I guess this is for stability reasons, but to put down power and speed you need the smallest wheel possible, with a low winding hub motor. Anyways thats all i know
@@keokio7 - Good points. Hub-motors will advance to accept higher and higher voltages, just as solar-panel/controllers crept up in voltage over the course of thirty or more years. And while smaller-diameter wheels might always have advantages in racing, few EUC customers want anything to do with racing or small-diameter wheels. In fact, the likely trend will be toward larger-diameter wheels with bigger battery capacity and of course, higher-Voltages. Larger wheels are much safer over bumps and potholes. Yes, larger-diameter wheels have more more stability too. Industry learns a lot from racing, but vast volume of customers want better shock-absorbers and bigger batteries.
@@SkeptikosUTube That being the case, it seems that initiating a slight turn in either direction would be the best way to recover from a wobble, rather than trying to steer straight ahead, which would seem to cause the rider to continue the oscillation. Big guess from me. I don't ride (too old), but I wish....
Its nice having a wheel that out ranges your own abilities...
Yeah, the question is what part of your body do you wanna break first...
When I saw your wheel shake my heart dropped and I wasn't the one riding! Glad you made it out ok. Thank you for that amazing footage! You are the man!
Love to see you rocking a stylish helmet with a real safety rating. Great review!
Love the Bullitt style, but probably not the best helmet for the winter without modifications. Lots of wind coming through the visor that causes whistling, and probably why his eyes are so teary from the cold air. Can modify it with some felt around the visor.
I have a windjammer coming, was hoping that would help but maybe i need to try the felt mod also!
58.1 mph. Wow, great review. I have one on order so excited to upgrade.
I just want to point out that the Sherman S is no slouch when it comes to speed. I saw a race video out of Spain where an SS out accelerated a Commander Pro and the rider took first place. That being said, the Lynx looks amazing
I absolutely love the Lynx so far. It’s more powerful than I’ll ever need and has incredible acceleration with minimal effort. Suspension is top of the line and the build quality is probably the best I’ve seen on any EUC. It’s well balanced, comfortable, fast af, and fairly light weight and nimble. Best wheel I’ve ever ridden, no doubt about it. The only enthusiasts that shouldn’t buy the Lynx are the long range cruisers that need a master pro.
And the ones who don't have a LOT of money lol
@@cenciende9401 it’s pricy for sure. But I said enthusiast, not casual 😁 most of the riders I know have multiple EUC’s. I sold all of mine to buy the Lynx.
@@Rapha194yes I do. Much cheaper and has more torque.
@@Rapha194Lynx has much better suspension and a higher top speed. V14 is more maneuverable and faster acceleration. Suspension on the V14 is not as comfortable but good for off-road and big bumps. Lynx is better at absorbing small imperfections in the road. Lynx will be more stable at higher speeds as well. Lynx is better in most ways but more expensive. They are very different wheels for different uses.
I own the s22 , ex-30 & for 2 weeks now the LYNX & I love all 3 and at this moment I am riding the Lynx most of the time but any of these 3 wheel are great and imo if 35 mph is fine to cruise at then you do not need to upgrade from the s-22 (not pro) as I just went on a ride & that wheel is so under appreciated i feel, I love the instant acceleration the s22 gives and how light it is but it has no where near the torgue of the ex-30 or the lynx and one thing I will say is the lynx's power actually makes it the safest wheel as I was going down a trail here in Jersey and I am riding on the street tire ( wanted to finally try a street tire since I always have knobbies) and I hit a part in this trail that was complete black slick mud and because of the power of the lynx it wouldnt let me go down & of course my balance helped but i dont thing either of the other wheels I have would have don't this and it is because of this motor and the non cut out... it was amazing to be able to make it out of that part of the trail .... My MIND WAS BLOWN from that... but anyway EUC's from leaperkim just feel like they are made better now that i have one from them too... great video & i couldnt agree more.
im 6 months into s22 as a first wheel and love it
are you glad you went with the street? I cannot decide.. Chooches latest vid has me leaning back over to the tubeless side and also the added range. I just want to be able to ride trails when needed idk idk
@@flowsolo i went with the street just to try the tubeless & i ride mostly trails and in hard pack single track ftype trails it rides even better or just as good as a knobby the only thing is the softer stuff.. I love that its tubeless & I can always throw a knobby on it if I need to but I am really liking the street tire it comes with as its almost like an enduro tire, if you get it you will like it with whatever tire u get it with, like I said I never had a street tire on my other euc's and that was the main reason and being tubeless helped but it ended up a good choice even though I mainly am offroad... Best of luck mate
@@claudionyc That wheel is awesome & every new wheel i see I want to buy & have a few times & i stilll love my s22... it just has that nice light zippy feel (esp if you flip your pedals to make them more forward) the pedal flipping made it feel so much more Zippy... Great wheel & glad you are loving it.
i'm sold on the street! thank ya sir!!@@revolutionaries-Today
The acceleration is wild, it wants to accelerate even going up steep inclines. It’s wild.
That laughter at the end of the final speed run was funny. A little bit more and this is a totally different video so, I think it was time to go home. 🤣
I had never lean so hard on a wheel before and I definitely thought that one more run like that i'll prob crash!
Great review and video! Thanks for taking the risks to push this wheel! Was fun to watch. Be safe!!
It was pulling to the left because of the air drag on your arm and camera out the right side. Try adding air resistance out each side , at high speed, and you’ll get a lean in the opposite direction! As always, great video!
14:44 - Yes, I was wondering about this. Thanks for your input.
Hsiang, your videos are so clear and sharp especially at night! what do you film and edit with? I use 360 insta 3x and do not even get close to your video clarity ??. One year ago I found your channel, watch all your videos ... bought a cheap wheel thinking I would not be able to stand on it. Now I can not wait to ride at least once a day, everyday! Your EUC love and info you share, changed my life for the better! Thank you dude!!
I had a insta360 x2 but its really not great in low light, I recently upgraded to the insta360 1 inch 360 mod and its a lot better about on par with a gopro (when zoomed in). but thank you glad I was able to help pull you into this great hobby!!
Please update when you get the aftermarket pedal bracket from e-rides. Very curious to see how the lowed pedals affect handling and stability! 👀
Regarding the Lynx pulling to the left, I have had alignment issues with my Sherman S where it pulls to the right. After aligning my wheel and still finding it pulls to the right, I realized it had to do with my shoes. My left shoe is always easier to tighten than my right shoe (I'm a lefty, so my left side of my body is bulkier and thus easier to fasten into the same size shoes), which gives my left side more control than my right. This means I can't control my weight on the right side of my body as well, making the wheel dip to the right. The solution, take extra care to balance the tightness of my shoelaces.
58mph!!! Nice, I wouldn't even dare. Appreciate it man
What’s up brother. You make me love my wheel even more. Thank you for everything that you do
Good vid👍
More speed than I need.
Cheers
I've been waiting for this review! This wheel is simply too much, in all the right ways. Imma buy it... knowing that I'll never come close to redlining this wheel, hahaha
You can't redline it. It won't cut out...ever. And can travel 15mph on 0 battery. And has a low battery mode that will get you home when out of battery. Gonna be hard to convince me to buy a different wheel in February.
I mean, if this ends being the wheel that everyone is calling it out to be (we'll see how long term first batch goes), this might very well be the wheel that makes me retire my motorcycle riding. My wife would be relieved....... so long as I don't tell her how fast this thing can go, lol. @@TheHitman-
I do have to say that consistently I hear very little problems for Veteran wheels. and on the EUC forum fire thread it is also the only brand that haven't had a fire yet.
LK definitely stepped up nicely with this wheel. Inmotion can do this now with 125v. Not sure why they don’t unlock the ability of the V13, do the same with V14 and Raptorize the V12, and clean up.
Curious to see a breakdown video of this wheel as well as a review, stats of an hour long, spirited true 50mph riding in the streets. *noting rider weights, especially in performance tests/reviews would be beneficial info.
Thank you for your intelligent and coherent content. I have yet to waste a minute watching your videos.
Cheers
my guess would be that no EUC company test their wheels above 50mph, so wheel behavior that that kind of speed don't receive the same amount of tunning as lower speed. But even with the Lynx I don't think 50mph+ are practical, you really need perfect conditions to offset the risk of pushing the wheel this hard..
@@OWGAC Correct i have had my Fancy mode V13 up to 60MPH and it become very sketchy the wind will train track the euc into corners also for Inmotion at present its about safety Inmotion gave 4 riders the unlock and from the data no one went over 55mph for very long if at all once unlocked.
I guess we will see where the line is drawn with the performance envelopes.
Not sure why IM couldn’t unlock #5 and let me rip it down streets.
Lynx is looking good for street flowing!
Thanks for reply.
Maybe seated would result in less wind resistance and more sspeed?
Yes.
Also more stable
Begode EX30 goes beyond 60mph with the new firmware. It's been known for a while now. Also, one Russian dude after modifying his motor on the Master, hit 111 kmph speed, which is 69 mph. That's shot on video. Crazy fast. But without the mods, Begode EX30 is doing a job of reaching around 62 mph. So, I don't know what the Lynx hype is all about.
Begode is hype.
Veteran hits high speed and still has safety headroom.
@@bobdebouwer7835 Lynx rules but don't act like a fanboy dude, begode wheels have had a great year and very very few reported cutouts
closer and closer to perfection. just needs to be affordable!
Another great, entertaining video 👏. Thanks for sharing! 🤜💥🤛
I don't ride these or intend to get one... but I do ride a BMX around Manhattan. This video is a joy to watch haha. It makes me want to drag the bike out and go for a run downtown.
Nothing to add. Just bumping 💪
Hands down the sexiest EUC so far , man that’s soooo clean, I’m definitely getting a used one one day so i don’t become homeless 😂
Nice BGM as always. Love your review.
Loved the Video. I use to watch your early vids, and you have come a long way, great work.
Minor HS Wobble also happened to me either. With lower pedal adaptor will help, I think.
And holding a cam while riding HS is much more difficult. You should run without it for a couple of times and compare.
Awesome video and an awesome ride. I'm sure with a few more adjustments you can make it to 60 mph. Keep at it
great review bro so excited to get this amazing wheel
The performance is a requirement for me because most roads where I live are 45mph speed limit. If I want to go anywhere beyond my neighborhood, it's 2 45mph roads that lead to downtown and more neighborhoods. Other options I wouldn't feel safe maxing out at 42mph or so, people drive around 50mph on these roads despite the speed limit.
Wow 58+ mph is a phenomenal effort Hsiang. I was nervous just watching the video!
I think a different tire will help with high speed stability too.
And lower tire pressure.
Knobby for sure. Or a hybrid.
@@SkanDigitalThe ET Max seems to be going for this with the wider fore width.
I heard an other Lynx rider say that if you curve a bit left and right instead of going in a straight line you can prevent the wheel wobbling.
I love how you come up with a new pad setup every video😂😂 I do the same just not as often
Been waiting for you to review this wheel💯
Mahalo 🤙😬
Love your content!
Awesome video!
I'm not a racer, but I do occasionally commute around cars going 45mph+ so I'm looking at either the Sherman S or Lynx. The longest recreational ride I'd regularly do is a 30 mile loop and both wheels can do that with some room to spare, especially at the speeds allowed there.
What has me torn is the new safety features on the Lynx. A smart bms sounds like the way to go for a wheel that I hope will carry me for a few years.
I'd definitely pick the Sherman S if kt had the same updated systems, so I find myself just holding out for a wheel that has both
If you wait a few more months, I am sure there will be a higher voltage SS with these features. But the current SS is excellent and can hit 50 easily.
I think if EUC tires could be balanced it might help with wobbles further. I haven't heard of anyone doing that but I don't hear everything.
That or tape a shake weight across the front so it can do mass damping and absorb the oscillation energy.
Long live the begode ex30, my favourite all round euc....😮
Amazing work, nice piece.
Mad man trying to hit those speeds in that weather. Hard to tell, but almost looks like you went into a divot in the road when you hit 58 and the wheel spun up a bit more with the loss of traction. Got those cold weather teary eyes. Hated riding my motorcycle in the cold because of that. You'd definitely get a bit more traction and less wind resistance in warmer weather, maybe a few less wobbly wobbles and feeling like you're riding on ice. Maybe there's a winter tire with a softer rubber compound available.
You are lucky to have such a nice weather, here in Montréal is full of snow and very cold
you kidding me i am a snowboarder, i love to have some snow!!
@@OWGAC yeah guess it can be fun a few times a years but i much prefer warm weather and water activities (and much longer daylight)
Is it really the fastest? Ex30 was seen reaching around 103 kph.
I did 95 kph on my EX30 without even trying lol
Doesnt seem like anyone is willing to attempt to test this just yet lol
Eluniphcyco was it I probably spelt it wrong hit 107 on master pro v3 I think... over a hundred sustained.
Tho those big heavey wheels are very different to ride, the mid size is playful. I find the old monster v3 it's 2400wh sure is easy weight to throw around while riding.
if you have long enough road and is willing to push the wheel way further than I dare then you'll probably still be faster on the Lynx. Higher voltage and straight up more power.
@@OWGAC Did I hear you say you’re only going to get 25 to 50 miles in range?
i think there are more appropriate asphalt tires for high speed.
It helps to use your arms like a sky diver to move left to right if your pushing over 35 mph. The right arm will make you go left and the left arm will make you go right. So if you have a selfie stick, depending what hand is holding it will effect you direction.
catching a wobble and a beep at the very end is terrifying
Go 🎉. Watched this at least three times now.
Hi Hsiang, which wheel are you using most on daily basis? Which is the most convenient in city?
Honestly I been riding the Lynx a whole lot, its not that much larger than an 16incher and weight the same. But if you don't need extreme speed then a 16inchers like the Patton or Extreme will definitely be "more convenient" as they are smaller.
@@OWGAC Many thanks for your reply. I don’t need high speed as most of my daily commute is on bike paths.
Eventually you have to decide for yourself how hard are you prepared to hit the ground.
You only live once!
18:40 - Leaning to the left might be due to Gyroscopic effects at high speeds?
How do u value the fun, thrill, rush and excitement of getting a new state of the art one wheeled machine that goes 60 mph? Impossible (imo)! Also, test the speed seated or is that considered cheating? Seated is the only way I ride high speed on my Master because of its poor stability. Can’t wait for my Lynx to arrive and I don’t need to go 60 to enjoy a great ride. Thanks for the try and still loving ur videos!
you have to lean really really hard to get it to accelerate past 55 and I honestly don't think you'll have enough leverage seated, but then again if you have a lot of room, you can just slowly inch your way up maybe? certainly better for wind.
@@OWGAC I’ll let u know when I hit 60:)
Im happy as long as i can cruise at 45mph comfortably, without fear of a cutout or speedwobbles.
What black and red pads are those around 4:19?
He finally got a decent helmet!!!
I do like the wheel, but notice the toe jump pad has a spike poking back the wrong way just above the wing nut.
Another great vid Hsiang, dood knee pads.
I actually really like that toe pad since I do pull on it regularly and its nice that its so well anchored, but I know exactly what you mean bout that spike, if I have the chance I probably try to shave it down a bit.
@@OWGAC I would have hacksaw on in in seconds. Then I could sit and no shin spiker. It's an awsome wheel tho.
I like the bolt on toe jump pad to, but it can be better still in my opinion.
Considering all apps (& speedometers digital or analog) have a ~10% margin of error (usually lower), 60mph is still the endgame that not been easily reached as of now atleast. So to call the Lynx the fastest EUC is a misnomer. That said, for sure its right up there with all of them. To be fair, I see a similar performance for the incoming ET Max as well. While most things are subjective, incl build quality, no doubt the 40kg is a great +. We shall see how it performs in a direct vs with the Max. Let the games begin
spec peeping aside, from a ride feel perspective, the Lynx simply feels the "fastest" it'll get to 45mph quicker than anything else I have ever rode.
Are your pedals different than erides biggie pedals?
nope I have the biggie pedals.
Very impressive wheel for 55mph 😳😳
...but the legal top speed is 20mph on most public roads so what is the point.
10:00 Isn't the light red?
13:55 cool helmet, lookin like a space man
question are you controlling it with a hand held controller or just leaning forward
fascinating
58mph aint shabby buddy, good stuff and great review
Hi bro, do you feel a difference in torque between the lynx and the patton and if so, what feels stronger to you?
I don't get how the front handle gets in the way of leaning. I have a Lynx and the only issue I have with them is how they limit pad placement. But with pads (as most of us have) as your knees don't bend the other way, you don't hit it.
Edit: I see that he has his pads down lower than I do. Mine are as high as his rear pads.
yes in a normal setup its fine, but I had to set my front pads super low so I can lean deeper for high speed. Not a problem for "normal" wheels but problem for a "race" wheel I think.
WTF... How safe do you feel with that toy helmet!?!? That chin guard looks like a wire😆
At least you should wear a full downhill helmet. These electric vehicles are no joke. Stay safe dude.
Awesome video 👍 keep it wheel ✌️
get to know these wheels .. look past the initial review... the Sherman S can be unlocked to "High Speed Mode" I would argue The Sherman S can keep up and beat the Lynx and many of the top wheels in its current state.. As Zen Lee found out one of his race against it .. .. now when the Lynx (currently Locked ) is unlocked its gonna be a beast .. to compare the Lynx to the S this way is comparing Apples to oranges..
Skill is a huge component when it comes to racing, matter fact I think its like 90% skills and 10% performance. so fact that someone beat Zen Lee with a sherman S don't mean that it is faster, give that guy a Lynx and see how fast he can really go!
where is the charge port because on the Patton it is so hard to get to
Did you test the 50e or 50s battery version? I tested the 50s and while I don’t go near the speeds you do, I was getting significantly longer range.
Hi! Big fan and love your videos. I am a long time skate boarder and currently use a Penny Australia nickle board to commute + bus. I really want to learn to ride an E-UC. Which one would you recommend for my first one to learn how to ride? I am a pretty quick learner. Thanks! ^_^
Range?! WHATS THE RANGE?!!!
I'd say the most confortable seated EUC would be the Begode Master Pro, by a long shot, but of course this is just my opinion and experience. Great video! ❤
How does it handle against potholes ?
Damn. 5/5? Sign me up!!!
It would be much easier to do the cutout tunnel run while being seated. Not only because of headwind but also for weight distribution.
You can't lean hard enough seated, also the wind pressure isnt uniform so you have to adjust your posture to compensate and it's harder to do seated
These wobbles came maybe from high height of pedals . I like Sherman OG low position . Top stability as it can be possilbe . Thats my bigest concern to change the wheel . Or wait for Begode ET max with adjustable pedal height . Or just stay on Sherman :)
I’m getting one, any suggestions, what will 2k UK money get me?
The most impressive feature of the Lynx that many gloss over is NO CUT OUTS.
That should be standard for ALL wheels...Cut Out should have NEVER been a thing to begin with
What is the weight limit on the EUC?
I’ve never been here so early🎉😂
I'm going after your fastest euc title, I crashed my v2 at 71 no video, just rebuilt it, being comfortable at 50 again because of the crash
would a road tyre help the stability ?
Probably a good quality street tire would fix the wobbles, i wonder if we need to balance the tires like motorcycles at that riding speed
this is a very good video. thanks )
What jacket is that? I think I'm reading ACG; is that a high vis motorcycle jacket? I just bought a high vis black shirt kinda like that, but I realized I should buy a motorcycle version that can hold up in a slide. Cheers~
Great review; Capability wise, Lynx might be the fastest wheel till now, although LK limited the top speed; I remember Roj hit 65.4 mph on the master pro; bigger diameter wheel generally will be more stable in high speed; but 20” seems to be the sweet spot for most people;
that was a 20" on Rogers ex30 that was wheel speed so more way off (still fast). I own both the lynx & ex-30 & both great wheels the biggest difference is the lynx will not cut out period... safest wheel yet.
That means EX30 will cut out in same condition? And in reality, any wheel will cutout when it’s over powered.
@@samuelju9247 yes i agree but I couldnt get the lynx to cut out & I am a 6'4" 270lb guy & did tests and it didnt cut out.. I live on 5 miles from the beach & tried what ZeN also tried firguring it would cut out & it didnt... I 100 % know anywheel will cut out so I worded it wrong its I havent been able to cut the lynx out but the ex30 cuts out much easier... thats the only diff I notice beside the obvious weight.
@@revolutionaries-Today wow that really proves Lynx has more power than the EX30 even though it’s 6p battery where Lynx is 4p; thanks for the info
I want one but my wife always says no. Such a fun sucker.
Out of curiosity, how do your knees handle all that riding?
The Law here in Australia is that a wheel may not be able to excede 45km/hr, leaving the buyer free to concentrate on other attributes such as cost, build quality and comfort. (And freeing up cash for mods and accessories)
which seat is that?! where to get it!?
@Hsiang LOL you're one crazy Asian. I always enjoy your videos. Stay safe!