the only reason why me personally dont like sonic is because 90% of sonic mains are spamming, stealkillers or runners, and if those players were to learn the game, it will be much more fun
@@izookodash7658 the way i understand "spamming" is if a player doesn't use their m1's at all and they just rely to randomly throwing out moves as soon as they go off cooldown a good example is if a sonic throws a shuriken at you randomly to break your block and then follow up with flash strike, it's annoying, there is no m1's and usually they would also throw a scatter there too, i will call that spam because it takes 0 effort and is hard to punish
@UnknownRage419 I've heard ppl say that too but of they don't use flash strike and dash they will get punched so the only way they can combo you is useing flash strikes after a shurikn
Sonic has high range, so they play passively, which gets them called runners and spammers, mostly by saitamas and garous. Ironic that those 2 call them spammers.. because they stick to the same easy 100% damage combo.
Fr, but I can see why ninja could be so hated! I hope kj comes ut, and martial artist. Because martial artist has a move that goes to another side of the mapi think.
Heres how you can balance Deadly Ninja: Flash strike: Make Flash Strike more punishable and have a tiny bit longer startup Whirlwind Kick: I'd consider Whirlwind kick literally get replaced by something else, but I know thats impossible, so we'll keep it the same. Scatter: Make it super punishable only if blocked, make it have a longer startup Explosive shiruken: I think the air variant of Explosive Shiruken has the biggest hitbox out of all base movsets. Nerf that hitbox size 100% no questions asked. Now for the ultimate: Either make twinblade rush blockable, or make it slower. It is quite literally unavoidable if you are using a character with no ranged capabilities. Make it so that when you use Straight on TWICE, it has a tiny longer startup before striking. Keep carnage the same Keep fourfould flash strike the same
Sonic is a good character, Though everything is blockable so you have to do the garou treatment where you gonna land a m1 then combo, However Just like preys peril you can use scatter for a free combo if it works, But 1 has mobility and one does not, And most people don't really know what spamming is, All people know about spamming is just using sonic, while yes I've seen real spamming (people just using moves For no reason 99% of the time), most of them are just either noobs or people that are mad that they lost, And for the running thing I have nothing to say, If they run just don't chase them, they want you to chase in order to catch you of gaurd, unless you know how it works, and most people just use saitama and garou because they see other characters as unskilled, over all sonic is just a good enough character I'd use if I'm feeling like it, because I use most characters, Most people just main instead of changing through to experiment, and for the garou treatment that's basically for most characters
Retired sonic main with a friend who is absolutely BROKEN with sonic here It’s really fun to use, it’s really easy to farm kills with if you know what you are doing, it’s a perfect combo to every close range character. The friend always gets a ks with sonic and can hold off everyone because of the moves. Overall, if you don’t spam or run, Sonic gets really fun to use and people won’t complain about you.
There are two types of sonic users: 1. Runner/spammer - never chase them when they run. Let them attack first, block it and try to punish it, it's easy when you are anticipating it. 2. Actual sonic main - you're doomed if you're not experienced enough. Their biggest advantage is range, you're not safe at any distance. Be wary of their 4th move variant, it's aoe can be dodged with back dashing. Their 3rd move can block break and get you in a combo depending on ping, if you don't have a counter, backdashing out after the block break works the best
This kinda also makes it one of the best movesests in the game imo, but its still pretty balanced other than the ult, which i still dont have a way of countering yet
Its hard to use for me cuz my keyboard sticky, people just wait for you to attack and stand there, waiting for you to use your second move, then counter or block it and hit you, but to counter that pro tip only use your second move as a counter, wait for them to attack, then press 2, then do whatever combo u want once they get up
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deadly ninja is my main, i do not spam i also use m1's and i create great combos with it, it makes me an opp for every server i join lmao n i beat targetees and teamers with it and they suddenly switch to my ability when i use it and beat them with my combo
This vid was better than any yt explaining the moves when ranking chars on a tier list Also I'm a deadly ninja who sometimes run and sometimes doesn't since I'm on mobile n I got 200 ping but I'm planning to get a gaming mobile to get rid of the ping issue so I don't run and actually be capable of fighting.
I don’t completely believe in spamming, but they don’t try m1 ing you rarely ever if ever they usually just use their kick. They’re shuriken, or just one of their moves and try to get away from you because they don’t know how to fight.
As someone who… mained sonic in the past for… Ahem… *various reasons of skill issue and need of quick kills* I kinda agree to this… When sonic was released GOD… I had every fight interrupted by sonics (I decided to main genos afterwards) After the metal bat release, I kept getting jumped by sonics as well I just can’t get a damn break… You know what’s worse? In the past, I don’t know any side dash techs, any m1 extenders, just moves and how I can combo with them. And I also mainly used dodging since I never played a game with a block function before Now it’s becoming better, but I did swear on my own soul, I am NOT using sonic, I only use either Saitama, Garou, Genos, Metal Bat, Atomic or Tatsumaki, and ever since realising the main issue of maining specific characters, I made SURE to swap characters each server hop I don’t want to make people suffer I don’t want to be called an idiot I DON’T want to look stupid… As some people said before Sonic is a good character, and can eb considered balanced if you put the runners’ faction out of the chart But it isn’t the character that is the issue Let me bring up another thing similar to this- metal bat People think metal bat is annoying because most players are either beginners or just don’t know how to use him properly and opt for jumping and spamming Same thing with sonic here But there are players who specialise in these characters Fadeunchanged is an actual metal bat lover, and he enjoys it a lot RemKaioh is rarely mentioned, but he mains sonic and he’s skilled as well And the reason why garou, saitama and genos are popular, is mainly because other influential figures like *[PREDATOR THAT I WILL NOT MENTION]* , humbled, lordheaven, Cimol (underrated asf), Makaku, kyoto, Hitana2K and twisted, play these characters often and are considered great at them, they offer pretty amazing tips
Washed Sonic main here, and i’m here to tell you another reason why Sonic is hated amongst players. It’s mostly because of the new players using it and just using every single GOD DAMN move they have. Sonic is considered an “easy to use” character and that’s not wrong, he IS easy to use. However, to actually be able to utilize him against people who block 24/7 is this magical thing called “side dashing” (it helps a ton) oh along with “baiting” (this also helps a ton). Oh and 2 more reasons: his killstealing capability is high and you can troll so many people by throwing shuriken at them and making them FUME
personally, i think you are glazing the twinblade rush by a lot. best ultimate move in the game? it’s decent, but you cant forget about literally any saitama ult, or even tatsumaki ultimate.
Deadly ninja is probably the most annoying character to fight cause 1.90% of them run, spam and kill steals 2.They will pop ult the second they are low 3.Its hell to fight sonic ults
who the hell doesnt pop ult when they are low lol aint that like half the point of the ultimate? correct me if im wrong i dont mean to come off as rude
@@BaboonBewareYT for me it’s just sometimes annoying to fight someone when you’re about to win and then suddenly they just pop ult then the next second you’re just dead especially if you don’t have ult
Noobs calling every ninja user "spam" while getting obliterated with pure combos and no spams or runs at all I myself use ninja sometime and i also hate ninjas who either interrupt your fight or run while hitting moves (can't forget killstealing) I specially hate those types of ninjas which is why i dont do those god awful, fatherless tricks on others
Imo sonic (deadly ninja) does suck. 90% of them just spam and run which is unfair and boring. However it is a fun character to play if you are one of the 10% players. I used to hate it but its really easily punishable if you get used to it. 1st move in ultimate however is the most annoying ultimate move (apart from Saitama (The Strongest Hero) ultimate moves) in the game. Don't get me started on the passive :/. Overall I think that Sonic is a mid character and if you want a good replacement for it, play Metal Bat (The Brutal Demon).
@@rodrigobernales5295it’s basically a stale mate cuz sonic won’t attack saitama cuz he might have deathcounter, but sonic is the one stopping the battle from happening so I think it’s a win for saitama
@@Maticulousmayonnaise ngl, you are focusing more on the person who uses sonic and the person who uses saitama, cuz everyone can just run and stop the fight. So here I dont refer to that I refer to what ult is better, not what can someone do to win or lose. So its more like ranking all ults. Anyways, sonic aint the best ult cuz is counterable, bcuz u can punish the second ability by blocking or just dashing out, the third u can dash out or cancel it from the start, and the fourth u can dash out or use an hability that makes u go up (ig nobody can do it as everyone uses garou), and for the first one just dash out is difficult but u gottta try. Then saitama also is not the best ult cuz you just can use 1 ability, then the third hability is difficult to land but if u do it is like insta kill, same with the others however, same like sonic, you can dash out, so then I can say genos, however is very cancellable like sonic cuz 1 stunts u, 3 if u dont do it it stuns and 2 is just dashing out, 4 is mind tricking. so, no ult is the best cuz u can literally make garou ult the best by just being skilled with it, or sonic doing idk all the attacks without missing, and same with avoiding them, is just part of skill and playing da game. (btw ty for answering cuz it has been a long time since I argued lol)
@@rodrigobernales5295 Yeah that’s applied in any game, if u have skill even the worst can be the best. We are talking about which ult gives us the biggest advantage. Let’s look at sonic and saitama Sonic -all moves are cancellable -one move is blockable -2 moves are punishable Saitama -no moves can be cancelled -all moves are oneshot if hit correctly -no moves are punishable -no moves are blockable Let’s take it in a practical way, if we put a sonic and a saitama with ult in a 1v1 ranked game, who’s gonna win? The sonic will be highly hesitant to attack the saitama player as if he even gets hold of the sonic its game over, saitama also has deathcounter. If the saitama user even punches the sonic user once, it’s all over as he will just use serious punch. But serious punch isn’t a guaranteed one shot. If the sonic player loses his ragdoll, and the saitama user gets hold of him he’s cooked because the saitama user can use OMNI. The thing is, the saitama user can’t get hold of the sonic at all because of sonic’s passive. The sonic isn’t going to attack the saitama either cuz it could result in him dying to deathcounter. It’s basically a stalemate. The sonic is preventing the match from happening so I have to give it to the saitama user. This is what would happen in a normal ranked fight where both players have atleast 10k kills.
@@Maticulousmayonnaise Thats why u can only use 1 move in saitama ult, so if u miss it ur cooked. Ik its not the same with sonic but of with sonic or idk with garou or genos, etc, you miss an endlag move, it can be punished, btw what I want to say is as what u said in the start the skill of the player, so the worst can be the best, so any ult can be the best depending how u use it. Yk what, wanna 1v1 on tsb?
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Garou - Spam counter
Atomic Samurai - Spam counter
Saitama - Ult abuse
Genos - Passive abuse
Sonic - Spamming moves running
Suiryu - Spamming the same combo
Tatsumaki - Crushing pulling randomly
suiryu one is true😞
the only reason why me personally dont like sonic is because 90% of sonic mains are spamming, stealkillers or runners, and if those players were to learn the game, it will be much more fun
if they learned the game they well have too much power and can destroy the whole game
and btw thare is nothing as "spamming" in any bg game bc thare is something called cooldowns that keeps players from spamming
@@izookodash7658 the way i understand "spamming" is if a player doesn't use their m1's at all and they just rely to randomly throwing out moves as soon as they go off cooldown
a good example is if a sonic throws a shuriken at you randomly to break your block and then follow up with flash strike, it's annoying, there is no m1's and usually they would also throw a scatter there too, i will call that spam because it takes 0 effort and is hard to punish
@UnknownRage419 I've heard ppl say that too but of they don't use flash strike and dash they will get punched so the only way they can combo you is useing flash strikes after a shurikn
@@izookodash7658 so that's not true at all
Sonic has high range, so they play passively, which gets them called runners and spammers, mostly by saitamas and garous.
Ironic that those 2 call them spammers.. because they stick to the same easy 100% damage combo.
Fr, but I can see why ninja could be so hated! I hope kj comes ut, and martial artist. Because martial artist has a move that goes to another side of the mapi think.
@@MightyContent6 You completely ignored the second part of my comment.
Heres how you can balance Deadly Ninja:
Flash strike:
Make Flash Strike more punishable and have a tiny bit longer startup
Whirlwind Kick:
I'd consider Whirlwind kick literally get replaced by something else, but I know thats impossible, so we'll keep it the same.
Scatter:
Make it super punishable only if blocked, make it have a longer startup
Explosive shiruken:
I think the air variant of Explosive Shiruken has the biggest hitbox out of all base movsets. Nerf that hitbox size 100% no questions asked.
Now for the ultimate:
Either make twinblade rush blockable, or make it slower. It is quite literally unavoidable if you are using a character with no ranged capabilities.
Make it so that when you use Straight on TWICE, it has a tiny longer startup before striking.
Keep carnage the same
Keep fourfould flash strike the same
Sonic’s also pretty good against Teamers when the person playing has a functioning frontal lobe.
Sonic is a good character, Though everything is blockable so you have to do the garou treatment where you gonna land a m1 then combo, However Just like preys peril you can use scatter for a free combo if it works, But 1 has mobility and one does not, And most people don't really know what spamming is, All people know about spamming is just using sonic, while yes I've seen real spamming (people just using moves For no reason 99% of the time), most of them are just either noobs or people that are mad that they lost, And for the running thing I have nothing to say, If they run just don't chase them, they want you to chase in order to catch you of gaurd, unless you know how it works, and most people just use saitama and garou because they see other characters as unskilled, over all sonic is just a good enough character I'd use if I'm feeling like it, because I use most characters, Most people just main instead of changing through to experiment, and for the garou treatment that's basically for most characters
Retired sonic main with a friend who is absolutely BROKEN with sonic here
It’s really fun to use, it’s really easy to farm kills with if you know what you are doing, it’s a perfect combo to every close range character. The friend always gets a ks with sonic and can hold off everyone because of the moves. Overall, if you don’t spam or run, Sonic gets really fun to use and people won’t complain about you.
There are two types of sonic users:
1. Runner/spammer - never chase them when they run. Let them attack first, block it and try to punish it, it's easy when you are anticipating it.
2. Actual sonic main - you're doomed if you're not experienced enough. Their biggest advantage is range, you're not safe at any distance. Be wary of their 4th move variant, it's aoe can be dodged with back dashing. Their 3rd move can block break and get you in a combo depending on ping, if you don't have a counter, backdashing out after the block break works the best
This kinda also makes it one of the best movesests in the game imo, but its still pretty balanced other than the ult, which i still dont have a way of countering yet
Underrated af, keep up the grind
Its hard to use for me cuz my keyboard sticky, people just wait for you to attack and stand there, waiting for you to use your second move, then counter or block it and hit you, but to counter that pro tip only use your second move as a counter, wait for them to attack, then press 2, then do whatever combo u want once they get up
your keyboards sticky? poor keyboard, must’ve gotten the treatment…. can i have some?
@@ناصرالحربي-د5ظ U want sum dr pepper mixed with sweat and liquid hatred (from a creature only known as Sandra whom me and my dad fucking hate but cant get rid of) and some goldfish dust?
@@aidennatteravent4519 nah, i’m good. 👀
deadly ninja is my main, i do not spam i also use m1's and i create great combos with it, it makes me an opp for every server i join lmao n i beat targetees and teamers with it and they suddenly switch to my ability when i use it and beat them with my combo
This vid was better than any yt explaining the moves when ranking chars on a tier list
Also I'm a deadly ninja who sometimes run and sometimes doesn't since I'm on mobile n I got 200 ping but I'm planning to get a gaming mobile to get rid of the ping issue so I don't run and actually be capable of fighting.
I don’t completely believe in spamming, but they don’t try m1 ing you rarely ever if ever they usually just use their kick. They’re shuriken, or just one of their moves and try to get away from you because they don’t know how to fight.
As someone who… mained sonic in the past for…
Ahem…
*various reasons of skill issue and need of quick kills*
I kinda agree to this…
When sonic was released GOD… I had every fight interrupted by sonics (I decided to main genos afterwards)
After the metal bat release, I kept getting jumped by sonics as well
I just can’t get a damn break…
You know what’s worse? In the past, I don’t know any side dash techs, any m1 extenders, just moves and how I can combo with them. And I also mainly used dodging since I never played a game with a block function before
Now it’s becoming better, but I did swear on my own soul, I am NOT using sonic, I only use either Saitama, Garou, Genos, Metal Bat, Atomic or Tatsumaki, and ever since realising the main issue of maining specific characters, I made SURE to swap characters each server hop
I don’t want to make people suffer
I don’t want to be called an idiot
I DON’T want to look stupid…
As some people said before
Sonic is a good character, and can eb considered balanced if you put the runners’ faction out of the chart
But it isn’t the character that is the issue
Let me bring up another thing similar to this- metal bat
People think metal bat is annoying because most players are either beginners or just don’t know how to use him properly and opt for jumping and spamming
Same thing with sonic here
But there are players who specialise in these characters
Fadeunchanged is an actual metal bat lover, and he enjoys it a lot
RemKaioh is rarely mentioned, but he mains sonic and he’s skilled as well
And the reason why garou, saitama and genos are popular, is mainly because other influential figures like *[PREDATOR THAT I WILL NOT MENTION]* , humbled, lordheaven, Cimol (underrated asf), Makaku, kyoto, Hitana2K and twisted, play these characters often and are considered great at them, they offer pretty amazing tips
Washed Sonic main here, and i’m here to tell you another reason why Sonic is hated amongst players. It’s mostly because of the new players using it and just using every single GOD DAMN move they have. Sonic is considered an “easy to use” character and that’s not wrong, he IS easy to use. However, to actually be able to utilize him against people who block 24/7 is this magical thing called “side dashing” (it helps a ton) oh along with “baiting” (this also helps a ton).
Oh and 2 more reasons: his killstealing capability is high and you can troll so many people by throwing shuriken at them and making them FUME
@@Zee-u3j man, I shoulda thought of that to put that in the video.
I hate the moveset because more than half of the time it is used by nine year olds who hit you with explosive shuriken and then run
People who can combo with sonic are scary ngl😭
personally, i think you are glazing the twinblade rush by a lot. best ultimate move in the game? it’s decent, but you cant forget about literally any saitama ult, or even tatsumaki ultimate.
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Deadly ninja is probably the most annoying character to fight cause
1.90% of them run, spam and kill steals
2.They will pop ult the second they are low
3.Its hell to fight sonic ults
who the hell doesnt pop ult when they are low lol aint that like half the point of the ultimate? correct me if im wrong i dont mean to come off as rude
@@BaboonBewareYT for me it’s just sometimes annoying to fight someone when you’re about to win and then suddenly they just pop ult then the next second you’re just dead especially if you don’t have ult
Your underrated
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Noobs calling every ninja user "spam" while getting obliterated with pure combos and no spams or runs at all
I myself use ninja sometime and i also hate ninjas who either interrupt your fight or run while hitting moves (can't forget killstealing) I specially hate those types of ninjas which is why i dont do those god awful, fatherless tricks on others
cool vid
Imo sonic (deadly ninja) does suck. 90% of them just spam and run which is unfair and boring. However it is a fun character to play if you are one of the 10% players. I used to hate it but its really easily punishable if you get used to it. 1st move in ultimate however is the most annoying ultimate move (apart from Saitama (The Strongest Hero) ultimate moves) in the game. Don't get me started on the passive :/. Overall I think that Sonic is a mid character and if you want a good replacement for it, play Metal Bat (The Brutal Demon).
“Unfair”
@@Greenfield924 ?
you cant spam in tsb
Have you ever heard of cooldowns?
@@Frogget69 Spamming in tsb is just not using any m1s and using your moves as soon as they come off cooldown. That is what I mean.
@@Artix235 ngl everyone does that and i think its not spam.
Challenge: Find a good Sonic user that dosen't run or spam
You did it by clicking this video
@@Mrstireast in main game
"Sonic Lives Matter" Ahh video, not gonna lie
This video explains everything why I hate sonic except being a good anti teamer
0:38 to 0:43 best ultimate excluding saitama
VERY, VERY, VERY debatable
@@rodrigobernales5295it’s basically a stale mate cuz sonic won’t attack saitama cuz he might have deathcounter, but sonic is the one stopping the battle from happening so I think it’s a win for saitama
@@Maticulousmayonnaise ngl, you are focusing more on the person who uses sonic and the person who uses saitama, cuz everyone can just run and stop the fight. So here I dont refer to that I refer to what ult is better, not what can someone do to win or lose. So its more like ranking all ults. Anyways, sonic aint the best ult cuz is counterable, bcuz u can punish the second ability by blocking or just dashing out, the third u can dash out or cancel it from the start, and the fourth u can dash out or use an hability that makes u go up (ig nobody can do it as everyone uses garou), and for the first one just dash out is difficult but u gottta try. Then saitama also is not the best ult cuz you just can use 1 ability, then the third hability is difficult to land but if u do it is like insta kill, same with the others however, same like sonic, you can dash out, so then I can say genos, however is very cancellable like sonic cuz 1 stunts u, 3 if u dont do it it stuns and 2 is just dashing out, 4 is mind tricking. so, no ult is the best cuz u can literally make garou ult the best by just being skilled with it, or sonic doing idk all the attacks without missing, and same with avoiding them, is just part of skill and playing da game.
(btw ty for answering cuz it has been a long time since I argued lol)
@@rodrigobernales5295 Yeah that’s applied in any game, if u have skill even the worst can be the best. We are talking about which ult gives us the biggest advantage. Let’s look at sonic and saitama
Sonic
-all moves are cancellable
-one move is blockable
-2 moves are punishable
Saitama
-no moves can be cancelled
-all moves are oneshot if hit correctly
-no moves are punishable
-no moves are blockable
Let’s take it in a practical way, if we put a sonic and a saitama with ult in a 1v1 ranked game, who’s gonna win?
The sonic will be highly hesitant to attack the saitama player as if he even gets hold of the sonic its game over, saitama also has deathcounter. If the saitama user even punches the sonic user once, it’s all over as he will just use serious punch. But serious punch isn’t a guaranteed one shot. If the sonic player loses his ragdoll, and the saitama user gets hold of him he’s cooked because the saitama user can use OMNI. The thing is, the saitama user can’t get hold of the sonic at all because of sonic’s passive. The sonic isn’t going to attack the saitama either cuz it could result in him dying to deathcounter. It’s basically a stalemate. The sonic is preventing the match from happening so I have to give it to the saitama user. This is what would happen in a normal ranked fight where both players have atleast 10k kills.
@@Maticulousmayonnaise Thats why u can only use 1 move in saitama ult, so if u miss it ur cooked. Ik its not the same with sonic but of with sonic or idk with garou or genos, etc, you miss an endlag move, it can be punished, btw what I want to say is as what u said in the start the skill of the player, so the worst can be the best, so any ult can be the best depending how u use it.
Yk what, wanna 1v1 on tsb?
Everybody Still Hates Ninja
Not _everyone_
The base isnt even that good its just annoying af to fight because of how people use it
I fear pro player ninja they all they base moves is extender 😨
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