I read a lot of criticism towards Wolfe G; he didn't deserve to win, his strategy is anti-game, what he does shouldn't be allowed and etc. But one thing I can tell you: anyone who somehow manages to keep Gengar (such a fragile pokemon) at full health for so freaking long(!) deserves to win! In my opinion, of course. I really appreacited his victory, namely because I found his strategy pretty clever...
+Jesse Mitchell I agree with you that in VGC a lot of the same pokemon are used (especially VGC 2016, late VGC 2015) which sucks. But in order to get how Wolfe is playing, and to know how to beat someone that's able to play the timer, I think you need to have played VGC. I don't mind people (like you) enjoying VGC content on the internet. I'm just a bit salty because on every video there are always people that never play VGC giving other players (like Wolfe) critizism.
They should considerably increase the battle time and lower the command time to increase the turn minimum for these tournaments so dick moves like that can't be used so much!
kevin12567 Pokemon chose this time limit because they don't have the time to host 30 minute battles instead of 15 i believe. Lowering the command time is going to be very harsh on every VGC player out there, because predictions are a key part of this game. Stalling out timer requires skill, especially if you're 1 pokemon down. You don't see everyone stalling out timer do you.
realguy456 I believe that the 15 minute time limit actually makes the matches longer. I know it looks paradoxal, but making the battle timer 30 minutes would shorten the actual lenght of the games, since running the timer would be a much less viable strategy.
Lunar Dusk I agree, making the timer 30 minutes would make the games shorter, but it really takes away another win condition of the games that a lot of VGC players agree on. Also, do you think Game Freak would actually change it ? Another fact, you have to have skill to be able to run out the timer, because you have to make key predictions to make sure your pokemon are healthy enough to stall out the timer completely and win the game, like Wolfe did. (Sorry for repeating this and no hate)
I really liked Wolfe's team in general. The Eject Button Amoonguss + Mega Gengar is very, very neat. To see the interesting team played so well is also really cool.
Have you ever played Scrabble with someone who sits umming and ahhing for twenty minutes before they make their move ? Its a sensible idea. Time is money, esp when you're hiring out a venue
Tflame is a physical backsweeper, whose power would be inhanced by snarl on sableye. However, if the main plan doesn't succeed or leaves the opponent only just standing, then talonflame is there to clean up after them. Also, mine has 6 perfect iv's and is adamant with life orb.
I would of gone for the earth power on Arcanine and used Zapdos to attack Among for chip damage Glick just out played her by timer stall and snarl played a whole part.
How is time stall not fair? Time stall is a viable way to win. VGC is not about skills, it's about nolige and Wolfey was a better player in that match.
+Emil Simic "VGC is not about skills, it's about nolige" - What?? OF course VGC is about skill. Time stall = a skill. What is nolige? You must be a kid
+James Leinberger It could be possible that the announcers didn't know what he looked like, and they assumed that since Amelia is mostly a girl's name, that he was a girl.
Yes things like Rayquaza/Primals/etc (and in VGC16 they are actually allowed which a lot of people don't like since it centralizes the meta). But in VGC15 those legendaries weren't. Things like Zapdos/Heatran/etc don't have stats that are OP. Articuno for example is pretty much never used. Garchomp isn't a legendary and has very high stats. Megas like Kangaskhan or Salamence are far more OP than a lot of these legendaries
10 minutes of watching wolfe play and I despise him. The man has no honor or pride. Just griming around in the dirt for the win. He's an exodia player.
He was purposely letting the timer run out. Literally doing nothing to let the timer tick down. In most games, you get banned for deliberate stalling. Using the clock to your advantage is one thing, and does take skill and thought, but literally doing nothing so that the time goes down is bull.
I don't know much about Pokemon, but is it true that Garchomp isn't allowed in tournaments? I've heard that a lot. Apparently, it's like a legendary or something?
+Infinitty Arianna Fontressé Garchomp is allowed in VGC but Smogon has banned the ability "Sand Veil" and so Garchomp can only be used in Smogon games with it's "Rough Skin" ability. But Smogon has no power over VGC and most people ignore it anyway.
Wolfe definitely lacks any sense of pride if he's going to play that way to seize the win... I feel if Amelia hadn't had to deal with that shameless strategy, she definitely would've gotten the win she deserved.
So Wolfe should have thrown the game for pride? He played within the rules, stop whining and acting like you wouldn't have done the same thing with a championship on the line
@@keizaronstesticularcancer4608 Exactly. He was playing with the rules, timer was one option to win the game. It is nothing wrong in his strategy, especially if it was a game in a championships.
It was honestly incredible what Wolfe did. Timer stalling is perfectly fine and is viable in VGC. The fact that Wolfe managed to do shrewd and clever moves to claw back in the tournament.
ObliviousGoat like Tyler Sy said, the commentators probably know for sure or the commentator went off the implied gender of the name "Amelia" but even if Amelia's got those XY chromosomes, they could be a trans girl pre-transition. you never know *shrugs*
Wolfey' s playstyle is completely terrible. He just relies on technicalities to win, such as perish trap and timer win. By doing these he takes all the fun out of the game and given that fun is the only purpose of pokemon, he is absolutely horrible for everyone , despite his undoubtful skil.
harryzefaa Agreed, before Shadow Tag teams he did the riskiest predictions and no one was really used to it so he would win almost all the time. I don't think I would call that skill. The way he just does everything just seems cheap and not really that skilled. Like he goes for all the technicalities like you said instead of relying on pure skill. I would never start stalling each turn from the very beginning that is just lame. Maybe at the end I would. He continues to get high places in tournaments though... so people think he is really good.
Well, calling it cheap or what, winning is the most important thing, isn't it? What's the point of them participating? One thing, and that is to win. The way of winning isn't important, even if it's a very boring way or cheap, some might claimed to win. Everything is about the results. That's it.
Yih Herng Hew yeah, that is strategy. Calling it not skill means it is easy to execute. So why don't they do it? If you can win, who can say no? In fact it is better than seeing Mega Khan double-edge every single thing.
I really appreciate Amelia not stalling out the timer, Wolfe's play style is so boring and even though he won this competition there were so many times where I think he should have lost.
Its sad that i'm dutch, i want to play on tournaments like this two i study wolfe g his playing style and movesets i can easy beat him with my team! Wolfey if you read this pls react i want to battle you
Don't you like watching intelligent plays in pokemon battles? I do. And you need some serious intelligence to build such an effective I-will-hang-on-I-will-survive team. That's why I enjoyed the match.
I read a lot of criticism towards Wolfe G; he didn't deserve to win, his strategy is anti-game, what he does shouldn't be allowed and etc. But one thing I can tell you: anyone who somehow manages to keep Gengar (such a fragile pokemon) at full health for so freaking long(!) deserves to win!
In my opinion, of course. I really appreacited his victory, namely because I found his strategy pretty clever...
Both the late mega and the quash play were gorgeous, love Amelia's team
I love Wolfe's strategies.
+Jesse Mitchell You don't know much about playing VGC do you?
+Jesse Mitchell Okay you do not play VGC
+Jesse Mitchell I agree with you that in VGC a lot of the same pokemon are used (especially VGC 2016, late VGC 2015) which sucks.
But in order to get how Wolfe is playing, and to know how to beat someone that's able to play the timer, I think you need to have played VGC. I don't mind people (like you) enjoying VGC content on the internet. I'm just a bit salty because on every video there are always people that never play VGC giving other players (like Wolfe) critizism.
+Jesse Mitchell I think I get your point? xD
That last game was brilliant by Wolfe
Crazy turns:
20:40
24:00
+Edward Labarca And 7:50 . Who knew that was a mega?
They should considerably increase the battle time and lower the command time to increase the turn minimum for these tournaments so dick moves like that can't be used so much!
kevin12567 Pokemon chose this time limit because they don't have the time to host 30 minute battles instead of 15 i believe. Lowering the command time is going to be very harsh on every VGC player out there, because predictions are a key part of this game. Stalling out timer requires skill, especially if you're 1 pokemon down. You don't see everyone stalling out timer do you.
realguy456 I believe that the 15 minute time limit actually makes the matches longer. I know it looks paradoxal, but making the battle timer 30 minutes would shorten the actual lenght of the games, since running the timer would be a much less viable strategy.
Lunar Dusk I agree, making the timer 30 minutes would make the games shorter, but it really takes away another win condition of the games that a lot of VGC players agree on. Also, do you think Game Freak would actually change it ?
Another fact, you have to have skill to be able to run out the timer, because you have to make key predictions to make sure your pokemon are healthy enough to stall out the timer completely and win the game, like Wolfe did. (Sorry for repeating this and no hate)
No h8 m8, ur opinion is gr8.
you never played it right
I really liked Wolfe's team in general. The Eject Button Amoonguss + Mega Gengar is very, very neat. To see the interesting team played so well is also really cool.
Whenever i play Perish Trap I always tell myself that my opponent isnt Wolfe Glick. and it kinda helps
god times, when the vgc was cool
Wow he won off timer... That sux
Was a mistake use a Sableye without taunt.
Is no one talking about how that sableye is a mega? That's crazy!
Any body can explaind me please, at the time 8.00 : WHY MEGA SABLEYE ATACK FIRST by using Will-O-Wisp??
prankster.
But Mega sableye has not prankster
In the turn where he megas. He does. In that turn his ability is still prankster. It's weird.
+TheHurricane127 Thak U
He probably bredictet the spore and with magic bounce that wouldnt affect sabeley. He mega evolved to change the ability and avoid the spore.
Really enjoying these Pokémon videos.
why have timers? it stops the trainers giving their full potentials..
Have you ever played Scrabble with someone who sits umming and ahhing for twenty minutes before they make their move ? Its a sensible idea. Time is money, esp when you're hiring out a venue
Ohh,, sorry,, I don't know how these contests works....
+Peridot Heart noob
i have seen battles (online) going on for hours without timers. i think its to prevent such things
@@j2398 how the hell is that supposed to work
I made it out of pools one time using Oddish, Ninjask, Chansey, and Smeargle.
Where is dracowish
No vish. but there's still hate
Isn't Amelia a guy lol
+MIDNightPT4 Lmao yeah they were calling him a "She" The whole time.
Dude that one commentators voice i cant stand it. Had to fucking mute the damn video
Ditto.
I am making a team similar to wolfeys and was wondering if heatwave on arcanine would be better, or a hale wings tflame.
why talonflame. this doesnt fit into this Team As it doesnt have intiminate Or snarl and its so frail
Tflame is a physical backsweeper, whose power would be inhanced by snarl on sableye. However, if the main plan doesn't succeed or leaves the opponent only just standing, then talonflame is there to clean up after them. Also, mine has 6 perfect iv's and is adamant with life orb.
+Atlantica .Graphics Card GA At 500 Subs. why 6 IVs if you just need 5
I would of gone for the earth power on Arcanine and used Zapdos to attack Among for chip damage Glick just out played her by timer stall and snarl played a whole part.
I don't see a girl there in the cams.... :/
That's what I was saying😂
Soon to be one maybe lol? Wth is this haha
The guy with the deeper voice has the most. Annoying. Voice. Ever. Jesus Christ, man,, stop saying words.
I really like it actually, its got some nice commentary the lad
wolfe is the stall ... ****** not fair ....
How is time stall not fair? Time stall is a viable way to win. VGC is not about skills, it's about nolige and Wolfey was a better player in that match.
+Emil Simic "VGC is not about skills, it's about nolige" - What?? OF course VGC is about skill. Time stall = a skill. What is nolige? You must be a kid
+Sean Puffynipples I meant you need to have brain in VGC.
+Sean Puffynipples and I spelled "knowledge" wrong :P
Emil Simic That still doesn't make sense. You don't need skills in VGC, but you need a brain? That doesn't make sense
Why does he keep saying Amelia is a girl, when they are both guys playing?
+James Leinberger It could be possible that the announcers didn't know what he looked like, and they assumed that since Amelia is mostly a girl's name, that he was a girl.
+Lord Obama riding a unciorn and shooting lazers out of his hands and stuff nice name XD
+Judo she is
Calling Amelia a girl was extremely annoying!
So why are legendaries even allowed in tournies? Seems like they kind of take the fun out of the game.
You mean in VGC16? Cause stuff like Latios/Heatran/Zapdos/etc is not OP and many non legendary pokemon are more OP or about the same.
+TheStealthPawn But legendaries are super OP with their stats
Yes things like Rayquaza/Primals/etc (and in VGC16 they are actually allowed which a lot of people don't like since it centralizes the meta). But in VGC15 those legendaries weren't. Things like Zapdos/Heatran/etc don't have stats that are OP. Articuno for example is pretty much never used. Garchomp isn't a legendary and has very high stats. Megas like Kangaskhan or Salamence are far more OP than a lot of these legendaries
10 minutes of watching wolfe play and I despise him. The man has no honor or pride. Just griming around in the dirt for the win. He's an exodia player.
In VGC, time option is an excellent tactic to play. So why you despise him, when he played the game fair and square, and he deserved to win.
He was purposely letting the timer run out. Literally doing nothing to let the timer tick down. In most games, you get banned for deliberate stalling. Using the clock to your advantage is one thing, and does take skill and thought, but literally doing nothing so that the time goes down is bull.
+Ketchupplant amelias Team is pretty nonstandart and antimeta either
Enderdude17 anything is kosher against sableeye
Yeah, I got over it
I don't know much about Pokemon, but is it true that Garchomp isn't allowed in tournaments? I've heard that a lot. Apparently, it's like a legendary or something?
Garchomp aint no legendary but it isnt allowed in VGC
iOuTLaWzZPS3 Ok.
K.Mykelle Arianna-Brooklynn Angeliqué Fontressé Actually, what he said was bullshit. Garchomp is very much allowed and used a lot.
Lunar Dusk Okay, thanks.
+Infinitty Arianna Fontressé Garchomp is allowed in VGC but Smogon has banned the ability "Sand Veil" and so Garchomp can only be used in Smogon games with it's "Rough Skin" ability. But Smogon has no power over VGC and most people ignore it anyway.
Both they gave good fight
Wolfe definitely lacks any sense of pride if he's going to play that way to seize the win... I feel if Amelia hadn't had to deal with that shameless strategy, she definitely would've gotten the win she deserved.
Amelia played it poorly after the Mega Gengar KO. She should be more aggresive and KO the Arcanine
yo amelia is a dude
So Wolfe should have thrown the game for pride? He played within the rules, stop whining and acting like you wouldn't have done the same thing with a championship on the line
@@keizaronstesticularcancer4608 Exactly. He was playing with the rules, timer was one option to win the game. It is nothing wrong in his strategy, especially if it was a game in a championships.
I don’t think he cares. He did what he had to win, while following all the rules, and using a strategy that obviously was powerful.
AARON Kreygasm
beauty of pokemon battles have been destroyed by the stupid stalls
It was honestly incredible what Wolfe did. Timer stalling is perfectly fine and is viable in VGC. The fact that Wolfe managed to do shrewd and clever moves to claw back in the tournament.
that first win was such a jag move
I feel sorry for Amelia. Being called a GIRL...
Well his Trainer is a girl and his name is girly, too. Easy to slip up.
Why does the commentator refer to Amelia as a she? I mean, that's definetly a dude right?
ObliviousGoat Can't really tell from just looking at the picture. I just assume the commentators know who the person is.
ObliviousGoat like Tyler Sy said, the commentators probably know for sure or the commentator went off the implied gender of the name "Amelia" but even if Amelia's got those XY chromosomes, they could be a trans girl pre-transition. you never know *shrugs*
ObliviousGoat i would assume the commentators know her in person and that's how they know she identifies as female.
@@ZenJestr that would still make him a guy, unless he has XX chromosomes (or mutated intersex ones).
The more I watch Wolfe the less I like him. Idk why but it's happening
It is exactly the opposite way for me ^^
You gotta give him credit for the unique play style and building a team without a single Pokémon that even resembles a legendary
Wolfey' s playstyle is completely terrible. He just relies on technicalities to win, such as perish trap and timer win. By doing these he takes all the fun out of the game and given that fun is the only purpose of pokemon, he is absolutely horrible for everyone , despite his undoubtful skil.
harryzefaa I found this fun to watch. To see Wolfe stall it out in a metagame heavily dominated by megas that 1-hit K.O pokemon was awesome.
Winning is all that matters tho. Results tell everything.
harryzefaa Agreed, before Shadow Tag teams he did the riskiest predictions and no one was really used to it so he would win almost all the time. I don't think I would call that skill. The way he just does everything just seems cheap and not really that skilled. Like he goes for all the technicalities like you said instead of relying on pure skill. I would never start stalling each turn from the very beginning that is just lame. Maybe at the end I would. He continues to get high places in tournaments though... so people think he is really good.
Well, calling it cheap or what, winning is the most important thing, isn't it? What's the point of them participating? One thing, and that is to win. The way of winning isn't important, even if it's a very boring way or cheap, some might claimed to win. Everything is about the results. That's it.
Yih Herng Hew yeah, that is strategy. Calling it not skill means it is easy to execute. So why don't they do it?
If you can win, who can say no? In fact it is better than seeing Mega Khan double-edge every single thing.
I really appreciate Amelia not stalling out the timer, Wolfe's play style is so boring and even though he won this competition there were so many times where I think he should have lost.
Timer strategy is a cheap but gd strategy. I applaud for wolfe for having such thick skin to use such strategy
because she had no reason to. if she had she would have
They don't have solid attack moves.
dreadkong22 pretty sure that doesn't matter, these are pokemon pros
dreadkong22 what do you mean?
Who are you talking to
Wolfe is kind of annoying, he seems to wait out the timer and stall so much
Its sad that i'm dutch, i want to play on tournaments like this two i study wolfe g his playing style and movesets i can easy beat him with my team! Wolfey if you read this pls react i want to battle you
+Greninja what if he brings a different team?
I believe there are some regionals in Europe if you're still wanting to compete.
Good luck beating the World champion.
Loool, you do know wolfey has a different team ever weak? Plus you seem like the type of guy wolfe would take apart in 2 seconds.
I can't watch this. Not after that timer stall.
Disgusting.
Excuse me, when did it happened?
+ThatGirl OverThere Around 9:38.
Dont watch VGC then because it's a legal, viable strategy.
V Tang ty, its a legit wincon people need to stop whining.
cybertron :D
Man high stakes games should not be coming down to timer.....thats fucking horseshit
interesting
the guy with deep voice indeed sound annoying.
I'm so sorry, Amelia. 😢. I too would hate to be robbed.
$OLID GOLD
eff wolfe
Amelia won. I don't care about the clock
garde34
Wolfe is daddy
Ew
most boring battle ever
Don't you like watching intelligent plays in pokemon battles? I do. And you need some serious intelligence to build such an effective I-will-hang-on-I-will-survive team. That's why I enjoyed the match.