I like this board because A) It does 90% of the same thing all the other high end boards do B) It's like at least $50 cheaper than those same boards just sacrificing a backplate C) No tacky RGB, especially over the VRM heatsinks
So going to play devil's advocate here. This is the lesser of many evils. I would far prefer them to be overhyping the caps and paying a little extra for something that is complete overkill than have them cutting costs by trying to shove in the cheapest caps they can get away with. I think it's probably more consumer friendly to have this situation rather than to actually sit down and work out if my board actually has reasonable switching performance in x,y,z scenarios. If it means we have to scoff at the marketing, so be it.
Marketing "We need bigger numbers on the capacitors" Engineers "They got these 20k hour 1000uf caps" Marketing "Hmm, yes, bigger numbers" Engineers "We can order them in black" Marketing "BUY THEM NOW!"
14mF on the low-side is pretty bonkers. By the way, I mentioned interdigitated capacitors on CPU packages on-stream a while back and you asked why they'd use them on the package edges given that the copper from the die to the edge has far more inductance than the capacitor itself, meaning that the difference of ~100pH in the capacitor itself is negligible. I didn't have a good answer for that at the time, but I did finally figure it out with a little help from some reference designs. The answer isn't really anything to do with PDN inductance, but rather field confinement. Since there's a lot of dI/dt in the decoupling caps, the fields do spread out a fair bit. Using interdigitated caps results in tighter field confinement, which means you get fewer field lines cutting through the substrate in that area, producing less crosstalk from the PDN to other signals. It's also useful because you get staggered microvias instead of a wall of parallel microvias, which is lower inductance in itself but also frees up additional pour space on planes in the layers immediately under the cap.
My main interest in this board is the ability to run all NVME drives while still having x16 to the GPU. A lot of boards cut the primary PCIE slot to x8.
but still can't run a PCIE5 NVME full speed and PCIE x16 though right ? which I thought felt weird. at least from my understanding, maybe got it wrong I haven't really looked into it, still far from being able to afford a new upgrade lol
@ it can run full speed nvme and pcie 16, it can’t run two pcie cards at 16, it cuts bandwidth to 8 on each if you do that, but I don’t stream so it doesn’t matter to me
Wanna know why I didnt buy an X870E Tachi Lite board? Cause the damned thing is outa stock everywhere along with all of the other ASRock X870E boards! I want those T_Sens ports!
When I decided to switch from 1200 to AM5 I was considering B650E Taichi lite as a perfect candidate for the price. It was the most affordable mobo that featured external clock gen with a price tag around $260. But somehow I bought used X670E Hero for $300 on ebay and never regretted. I was defatted by Asus marketing)) To justify the choice I have to admit that my previous Z490 formula delivered me the most user-friendly experience ever in terms of the OC
The only thing I can think of for why ASRock swung for the fences (aside from "this one goes to 11" reasons) is that they might have intel (no pun intended) on future AM5 CPU demands, but even then, your point about the socket stands. For this current generation, all of the makers would've had to have tested 9950X3D samples to ensure they at least WORKED.
Will there be a video on overclocking the CPU and Ram on the taichi lite? (anxiously waiting...) especially with a 9800x3d since it's difficult to get an oc in the ram
@@jeancarrascoo No, it can't run 8000mhz, but why would we? In my country cheapest 32 GB 8000hz ram costs roughly $250, I'd rather go for 48 GB 6000Mhz for $150. Besides, no games benefit from 8000 Mhz RAM with 9800x3d.
The Lite doesn't have RGB out the ass, it doesn't have the EZ release on the main PCIe slot, and you don't get the backplate. Aside from that it's the exact same board.
The VRM on my Sabertooth Z77 with a moderately overclocked (and undervolted) 3770K is still running strong as my nephew's daily driver. After 7+ years of workstation duty, it's now powering his Fortnite gaming PC. 😉 Safe to say, caps are the least of its problems...
Must be nice to have a functioning board. I have a Taichi and it was DOA. Now all of the best three AsRock boards have been sold out everywhere in the US for weeks. Also, only the Nova doesn't share PCI-e lanes with the top GPU slot. The Taichi and Taichi Lite only run at x8 if you use the bottom slot. If you still need to use a sound card like many actually still do, you're setting your GPU at x8. I have no idea why AsRock made the Nova better than the two boards above it that cost $50 - $100 more, but it is. In every way it's equal the Taichi aside from not having the heavy backplate, and it's better about lane sharing. It even has the EZ-release that the Lite does not for whatever reason.
The EZ latch missing is weird in hindsight as asrock's solution isn't very complicated. Maybe a dollar or two saved but the thing's basically an extended latch under spring tension.
@@floodo1 Still using the Essence STX since not only can the amp power my 600Ohm headphones, it also has Dolby Headphone 7.1 which is still the best virtualization algorithm on PC for gaming, and it's better than the generic "Atmos over headphone" they are trying to push on Windows.
@@monotoneone This is incorrect. It's Gen 3 x16. It also has a PCI-e 2 Gen 3 that runs at x1, which is where a sound card would be used. That slot used to be standard on all motherboards, now they're being phased out everywhere despite the fact that sound cards do still exist. Also, who actually uses 2x GPUs at x8 besides maybe miners and video editors?
I came here thinking you will make me regret my purchase decision of not going with the Taichi Lite and I am happy that i got the Steel Legend instead.
i liked the several benefits of raising the capacitance, i still have several old boards that used 1500 or 3300 uf different type of cap but still ......
The one thing I noticed with Asrock motherboards is the fast boot time. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but no matter what ssd or fast boot setting, I only got sub 10 second until windows with asrock... I have now asus I had gigabyte both with 3gb/s nvme ssd. My coworker with the cheapest asrock and cheapest ssd beats it :-D
I want CDIMM and the short evised ram slot pin design from Asus(?). I've been very interested but I understand it's not as simple as I think... I'm just really curious if there's any tangible difference using those two new pieces of technology together.
And what about the Asrock NOVA? I've watched a lot of videos and it's supposed to be pretty good, although it costs the same as the Taichi Lite for me, but the NOVA has a backplate. Well, the MOSFETs are a little worse, but I have no idea, I'm not familiar with that xD. A short time ago it was €50 cheaper than the Taichi Lite, but now it costs about the same. 405€ vs 414€ (TL)
I've been eyeballing the NZXT N9 because I think it's the Phantom Nova X870 board, which is overkill for the 9800X3D, BUT I'm concerned that I don't have 20,000 hours of endurance if I lived in the center of Death Valley with no AC.
I was immediately suspicious when I saw the picture because these caps are so far away from the socket. Does this factor in to the performance of the board? Looked to me like "hey, we put a couple more caps SOMEWHERE on the board". 😄
they should just use 2 480uF in parallel per phase. That would give them their marketing material, it would keep the capacitance higher and reduce the esl and esr. Oh, I guess it wouldnt help the socket impedances but maybe it would have a chance at actually doing something useful.
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking: An extremely popular video series would be the rankings of VRMs for different motherboards at each approximate price point between the different manufacturers. Thats what we all need to know. Start asking viewers to unscrew heatsinks and send in ultra high resolution photos. Eventually all the tech media should also start pushing the narrative that exclusive no-name/no datasheet parts = poor.
I hope for DDR5 overclocking as I have same board and I'm struggling to stabilize 6400 or 8000 with some bit more challenging timings. Let the river of knowledge flow @buildzoid
I wouldn't say the taichi is worth it unless ur going for the aesthetic or looks like u said since the vrms are overkill. But, I do think they might help for am6 or Zen 6 I forget the name since it will be on these motherboards too apparently for rumors. I do think as a brand ASRock is more reliable. Their customer support is better compared to Asus gigabyte and msi. And as for am5 boards I've heard a lot of people have had issues with MSI boards and Asus boards recently so. And I haven't heard of too many faulty ASRock boards. That being said I would recommend like a x870 steel legend or the pro rs etc. Since they are good enough
I am hoping you daily an Asrock board. Few videos on RUclips do; I’ve seen the Asus bios so much, it’s like I own one. I have X670E Tiachi Carrara. While the bios/board does not seem to have an “eclk” to use, it does have an option for “bclk” wherein PCIe=100Mhz, kind of feels like it’s accessing an eclk, but I dunno. Also, bclk increments aren’t great: 101, 102, 104, and 105. Wish I could try 103mhz. I run at 102, with a boost limit at max of 200mhz. HWinfo64 max freq values hit 5.925Ghz for all cores or so. Both CCD’s on my 7950x hit all core 5.9Ghz when max power is limited to 170w eco mode (cbr23 score 36k+), with power limit set to board max, CCD0 always has the higher clocks per HWinfo64 (cbr23 score 39k+, could never break 40k). In terms of CCD’s I think I hit the silicone lottery. The IMC not so much. 6.2Ghz is solid. While it “can” run 6.4Ghz with a lot of fussing, cbr23 scores are lower. I am guessing the ECC happening in the Infinity Fabric is working overtime. … so please showcase sometime in the Asrock bios if you can. The default bios 1.04 let these cores really fly at 5.85Ghz (CCD0) and 5.5Ghz (CCD1); but memory tuning a disaster as tRef not even accessible. Thanks for the past and future content.
title of the video got translated to german for me, i do not like that. Recently saw someone point that out on gamer's nexus's channel and steve mentioned something about turning that off, is that an option for you as well?
I wonder what effect this has on power consumption in real-world workloads that have a lot of idle time? C1e and deeper allow reducing voltage to minimum frequency (at least on Intel; IDK AMD), and once energy is put into those caps, the only way it leaves is by going through the CPU and getting turned into heat. It'd slow down how quickly the CPU can increase frequency and exit idle states too. That wouldn't be a problem in performance mode, but then you're making energy efficiency even *worse*.
really hope you can get the most out of your CPUs with it, because im bummed out on my B650E Taichi Lite with 8000 and 9000 series CPUs. Also on HDV and Lightning itx, so i got an ASUS itx and its miles better. Just my 2 cents I really hope its good for you.
the only upside I can see with the carbon is the PCI-e 3.0 x4 slot from the chipset. The Taichi has ECLK support. As of right now MSI's BIOS implementation is a bit better for RAM OC(tRCDWR and certain settings are less hidden). So it really depends which features you want.
I ended up buying the X870E Crosshair Hero because it runs 8000MTs (38-48-48-84) RAM flawlessly, with FCLK and UCLK set to 2000 and the Asus AI Memory Tweaker applied. This actually reduced latency from 74 to 65 in AIDA64, and everything works unbelievably well. The RAM stays between 28 and 39 degrees under load while gaming (I have a fan on the RAM), the chipset stays under 50 degrees, and the 7800X3D runs incredibly cool with an overclock, undervolt, and Curve Shaper applied.
Some mobo mfgs feel like they have to do sOMETHINg to justify doubling their prices.... this is guilt. It means the mfg. dOEs care... a little... Brands like MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte... they don't fake it. Make the board as cheap as possible to spec and make more profit.
You know that products are built to fail and not last, when they use capacitors that have only 20k hours lifespan. For context, if you leave your PC on 24/7, that is just around 2 years.
Wrong. The rating is at 105c. Every 5-10c lower doubles the projected lifespan, depending on the product line. You're running yours at a temp that basically guarantees 10+ lifespan no matter how degenerate your overclocking is.
i don't like any of the new crop of ryzen boards. very inflexible with the pcie slot configs. i want more than 2 and one of them being x1 electrical most of the time. i've seen two boards with a 1x physical between the x16 physicals, and a billion m.2 slots i'm not going to use. i don't want dongles, and it seems like things are migrating that way.
why are they using through hole caps? Seems like a low hanging fruit for reducing ESL and getting a maybe actually measurable improvement the higher capacitance version probably also has a bit higher ESL than the smaller one, no?
Yeah but try explaining to normie buyers what an ESL and ESR is. Much easier to go for a huge endurance rating and capacitance. Also I haven't measured the ASUS ITX yet to see if the 3 terminal SPCAPs even manage to do anything. It might turn out that the CPU socket is just too much of a bottleneck(which might explain why ASUS removed some MLCCs from the socket on X870)
isn't this board out of stock everywhere? just wait till all major vendors starts putting 20K caps on all boards because that's ObViOslY the reason why that one sell so well /s
Asrock is by far the best. Very little stupid gimmicks which just break and normally better true features at a lower price. Especially Asus, they just dump Vcore to lower returns etc.
Does seem like overkill. My Marshall Plexi replica guitar amp uses filter capacitors after the rectifiers to smooth out the ripple supplying the tubes with 200-480 VDC. There's only a few of them and they range from 16uF to 50+50uF. The main thing is they are rated to handle the high voltage and are high quality, so they do not pop and spray cap juice all over the show. Most nodes supplying the plates/anodes of the tubes only require a couple of stages of filtering to get a very smooth waveform on the scope, but maybe a CPU needs even smoother - I dunno. Electrolytic caps do dry out over time though, so them not being that is good (I remember so many mobos dying on me back in the early 2000s before long life caps became a thing).
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"Its useless but i bought it"
"Why?"
"To see how its useless"
"to see how useless it is" would be more appropriate
That was the sweetest "Hey guys" so far 😊
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yes he may not enjoy interracting with people but he's still a nice guy!
c:
i appreciated it
Bro is so wholesome
Taichi lite was designed for 2 zeon cpus but somehow was released on am5
prove it
@@andrewvirtue5048 joke
I like this board because A) It does 90% of the same thing all the other high end boards do B) It's like at least $50 cheaper than those same boards just sacrificing a backplate C) No tacky RGB, especially over the VRM heatsinks
So going to play devil's advocate here. This is the lesser of many evils. I would far prefer them to be overhyping the caps and paying a little extra for something that is complete overkill than have them cutting costs by trying to shove in the cheapest caps they can get away with. I think it's probably more consumer friendly to have this situation rather than to actually sit down and work out if my board actually has reasonable switching performance in x,y,z scenarios. If it means we have to scoff at the marketing, so be it.
"Why can't everything be simple, and just work"
Realest sh*t I've heard.
12:07
Marketing "We need bigger numbers on the capacitors"
Engineers "They got these 20k hour 1000uf caps"
Marketing "Hmm, yes, bigger numbers"
Engineers "We can order them in black"
Marketing "BUY THEM NOW!"
Asus soldered them wrongly on some motherboards 🤣
The better marketing would be we have new capacitors and we solder them on our boards correctly
14mF on the low-side is pretty bonkers. By the way, I mentioned interdigitated capacitors on CPU packages on-stream a while back and you asked why they'd use them on the package edges given that the copper from the die to the edge has far more inductance than the capacitor itself, meaning that the difference of ~100pH in the capacitor itself is negligible. I didn't have a good answer for that at the time, but I did finally figure it out with a little help from some reference designs. The answer isn't really anything to do with PDN inductance, but rather field confinement. Since there's a lot of dI/dt in the decoupling caps, the fields do spread out a fair bit. Using interdigitated caps results in tighter field confinement, which means you get fewer field lines cutting through the substrate in that area, producing less crosstalk from the PDN to other signals. It's also useful because you get staggered microvias instead of a wall of parallel microvias, which is lower inductance in itself but also frees up additional pour space on planes in the layers immediately under the cap.
Putting a couple of € of extra caps on a board is probably more cost-effective than any other equivalent marketing.
Funny thing is, these 20k caps motherboards are significantly cheaper than asus strix line up that feature 5k caps. ROG tax is insane.
My main interest in this board is the ability to run all NVME drives while still having x16 to the GPU. A lot of boards cut the primary PCIE slot to x8.
Yup this will become important especially with 5090, gonna be really interesting seeing benchmark differences.
Just buy X870E Nova. Les costs and same value.
X870 tomahawk also have this
but still can't run a PCIE5 NVME full speed and PCIE x16 though right ? which I thought felt weird. at least from my understanding, maybe got it wrong I haven't really looked into it, still far from being able to afford a new upgrade lol
@ it can run full speed nvme and pcie 16, it can’t run two pcie cards at 16, it cuts bandwidth to 8 on each if you do that, but I don’t stream so it doesn’t matter to me
can you do one of your comparison/rambling videos about the best x870/x870e mobos?
i bought that too when i got my 9800x3d. very happy with it
Does it support bclk overclocking?
Planning to take my ASRock X870E Taichi out of the box today!
Wanna know why I didnt buy an X870E Tachi Lite board? Cause the damned thing is outa stock everywhere along with all of the other ASRock X870E boards! I want those T_Sens ports!
When I decided to switch from 1200 to AM5 I was considering B650E Taichi lite as a perfect candidate for the price. It was the most affordable mobo that featured external clock gen with a price tag around $260. But somehow I bought used X670E Hero for $300 on ebay and never regretted. I was defatted by Asus marketing)) To justify the choice I have to admit that my previous Z490 formula delivered me the most user-friendly experience ever in terms of the OC
Makes me feel better about purchasing this board
The only thing I can think of for why ASRock swung for the fences (aside from "this one goes to 11" reasons) is that they might have intel (no pun intended) on future AM5 CPU demands, but even then, your point about the socket stands. For this current generation, all of the makers would've had to have tested 9950X3D samples to ensure they at least WORKED.
Will there be a video on overclocking the CPU and Ram on the taichi lite? (anxiously waiting...) especially with a 9800x3d since it's difficult to get an oc in the ram
yep
Interesting to see the comparison.
excellent pick i threw a 9800x3d in mine works great.
it will be? I want to see you use 8000mhz memories there... full of bios problems
@@jeancarrascoo No, it can't run 8000mhz, but why would we? In my country cheapest 32 GB 8000hz ram costs roughly $250, I'd rather go for 48 GB 6000Mhz for $150. Besides, no games benefit from 8000 Mhz RAM with 9800x3d.
Taichi Lite also has an ECLK if you want to try that
Thanks, I wanted to know that.
happy with my ASRock X870e Nova
i think nova is best bang for the buck for x870 mobos
How does this compare to the regular X870E Taichi? That is the motherboard I ended up going with.
its same but straight
it's literally the exact same board
The Lite doesn't have RGB out the ass, it doesn't have the EZ release on the main PCIe slot, and you don't get the backplate. Aside from that it's the exact same board.
RGB, thats literally it.
What x870 board would you buy? I am looking to do a new build. Also, is this really worth $400?
2:37 "You are not going to fix a dead motherboard by replacing a capacitor". Every repair channel out there: "What?"
well not a polymer. Cracked MLCCs are a very real concern.
youtube translating the title is so annoying. not sure that's a setting on my side or the video side.
Will we see "=Pass" next to this board in the “My personal AM5 DDR5-8000 success list”? 😊
added today
The VRM on my Sabertooth Z77 with a moderately overclocked (and undervolted) 3770K is still running strong as my nephew's daily driver. After 7+ years of workstation duty, it's now powering his Fortnite gaming PC. 😉 Safe to say, caps are the least of its problems...
The most thing that I like that bz says is: "it doesn't do anything". LOL.
Must be nice to have a functioning board. I have a Taichi and it was DOA. Now all of the best three AsRock boards have been sold out everywhere in the US for weeks.
Also, only the Nova doesn't share PCI-e lanes with the top GPU slot. The Taichi and Taichi Lite only run at x8 if you use the bottom slot. If you still need to use a sound card like many actually still do, you're setting your GPU at x8.
I have no idea why AsRock made the Nova better than the two boards above it that cost $50 - $100 more, but it is. In every way it's equal the Taichi aside from not having the heavy backplate, and it's better about lane sharing. It even has the EZ-release that the Lite does not for whatever reason.
The Taichi is for multi-gpu, the second x16 slot on the Nova is only Gen3 x2.
The EZ latch missing is weird in hindsight as asrock's solution isn't very complicated. Maybe a dollar or two saved but the thing's basically an extended latch under spring tension.
Yo king, what sound card you running?
@@floodo1 Still using the Essence STX since not only can the amp power my 600Ohm headphones, it also has Dolby Headphone 7.1 which is still the best virtualization algorithm on PC for gaming, and it's better than the generic "Atmos over headphone" they are trying to push on Windows.
@@monotoneone This is incorrect. It's Gen 3 x16. It also has a PCI-e 2 Gen 3 that runs at x1, which is where a sound card would be used. That slot used to be standard on all motherboards, now they're being phased out everywhere despite the fact that sound cards do still exist.
Also, who actually uses 2x GPUs at x8 besides maybe miners and video editors?
Sheesh they've been impossible to get recently. I can't tell you how many "auto-notify" lists I am for this MB.
Would the extra capacitance help with newer AMD CPUs where the power consumption can spike to the 160+ watt range (higher is using PBO)?
PUtting a pillow on my motherboard was the only way I was able to find to reduce my frametimes in games.
I saw in the spec sheet you showed that the capacitors are 2.0Vdc does this make any impact compared to the "normal" 6.3Vdc capacitors with 560 µF?
I came here thinking you will make me regret my purchase decision of not going with the Taichi Lite and I am happy that i got the Steel Legend instead.
i liked the several benefits of raising the capacitance, i still have several old boards that used 1500 or 3300 uf different type of cap but still ......
Would solid state capacitors like on ITX boards improve voltage regulation?
Does this board have an external clock generator?
What's the difference from the x670e taichi? Apart from 2 less sata ports?
I enjoy my x670e Taichi the especially the lightning ports
How do you decide the best vcore llc level on a board? Is it possible without an oscilloscope?
The one thing I noticed with Asrock motherboards is the fast boot time. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but no matter what ssd or fast boot setting, I only got sub 10 second until windows with asrock... I have now asus I had gigabyte both with 3gb/s nvme ssd. My coworker with the cheapest asrock and cheapest ssd beats it :-D
I want CDIMM and the short
evised ram slot pin design from Asus(?). I've been very interested but I understand it's not as simple as I think... I'm just really curious if there's any tangible difference using those two new pieces of technology together.
Why these manufacturers don't give you boards, is beyond me.🤔
And what about the Asrock NOVA? I've watched a lot of videos and it's supposed to be pretty good, although it costs the same as the Taichi Lite for me, but the NOVA has a backplate. Well, the MOSFETs are a little worse, but I have no idea, I'm not familiar with that xD.
A short time ago it was €50 cheaper than the Taichi Lite, but now it costs about the same. 405€ vs 414€ (TL)
Is it the best am5 motherboard
ASRock could of saved us some money by keeping the 12K rated ones.
yup
They are there to make profit, not to save us money.
@@chovekb Fine; they could've made more profit by keeping the 12k rated ones
I've been eyeballing the NZXT N9 because I think it's the Phantom Nova X870 board, which is overkill for the 9800X3D, BUT I'm concerned that I don't have 20,000 hours of endurance if I lived in the center of Death Valley with no AC.
The Taichi X870E motherboards are kinda hard to find in stock. Been looking for over a month now. U.S.
why do you like the amd platform over intel ?
I was immediately suspicious when I saw the picture because these caps are so far away from the socket. Does this factor in to the performance of the board?
Looked to me like "hey, we put a couple more caps SOMEWHERE on the board". 😄
Can you run 8000+ ram speeds on it?
what about the msi godlike?
they should just use 2 480uF in parallel per phase. That would give them their marketing material, it would keep the capacitance higher and reduce the esl and esr. Oh, I guess it wouldnt help the socket impedances but maybe it would have a chance at actually doing something useful.
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking: An extremely popular video series would be the rankings of VRMs for different motherboards at each approximate price point between the different manufacturers. Thats what we all need to know. Start asking viewers to unscrew heatsinks and send in ultra high resolution photos. Eventually all the tech media should also start pushing the narrative that exclusive no-name/no datasheet parts = poor.
From a functionality standpoint, is this board better than MSI Tomahawk
I hope for DDR5 overclocking as I have same board and I'm struggling to stabilize 6400 or 8000 with some bit more challenging timings. Let the river of knowledge flow @buildzoid
Guys, what is SA PLL frequency?
So you could say those capacitors are capping.
I wouldn't say the taichi is worth it unless ur going for the aesthetic or looks like u said since the vrms are overkill. But, I do think they might help for am6 or Zen 6 I forget the name since it will be on these motherboards too apparently for rumors.
I do think as a brand ASRock is more reliable. Their customer support is better compared to Asus gigabyte and msi. And as for am5 boards I've heard a lot of people have had issues with MSI boards and Asus boards recently so. And I haven't heard of too many faulty ASRock boards.
That being said I would recommend like a x870 steel legend or the pro rs etc. Since they are good enough
I am hoping you daily an Asrock board. Few videos on RUclips do; I’ve seen the Asus bios so much, it’s like I own one. I have X670E Tiachi Carrara. While the bios/board does not seem to have an “eclk” to use, it does have an option for “bclk” wherein PCIe=100Mhz, kind of feels like it’s accessing an eclk, but I dunno. Also, bclk increments aren’t great: 101, 102, 104, and 105. Wish I could try 103mhz. I run at 102, with a boost limit at max of 200mhz. HWinfo64 max freq values hit 5.925Ghz for all cores or so. Both CCD’s on my 7950x hit all core 5.9Ghz when max power is limited to 170w eco mode (cbr23 score 36k+), with power limit set to board max, CCD0 always has the higher clocks per HWinfo64 (cbr23 score 39k+, could never break 40k). In terms of CCD’s I think I hit the silicone lottery. The IMC not so much. 6.2Ghz is solid. While it “can” run 6.4Ghz with a lot of fussing, cbr23 scores are lower. I am guessing the ECC happening in the Infinity Fabric is working overtime. … so please showcase sometime in the Asrock bios if you can. The default bios 1.04 let these cores really fly at 5.85Ghz (CCD0) and 5.5Ghz (CCD1); but memory tuning a disaster as tRef not even accessible. Thanks for the past and future content.
title of the video got translated to german for me, i do not like that. Recently saw someone point that out on gamer's nexus's channel and steve mentioned something about turning that off, is that an option for you as well?
Good thing I read the comments because I was about to buy this piece of shit.
I just realized that you could valid a motherboard with a backwards cap because of how unessisary they are over a certain point.
I choose motherboards for their rear I/o and build zoid for VRM :)))
I am buying this motherboard because none of the M.2 slots share bandwidth with the PCIe x16. I have always owned MSI Intel motherboards.
I wonder what effect this has on power consumption in real-world workloads that have a lot of idle time? C1e and deeper allow reducing voltage to minimum frequency (at least on Intel; IDK AMD), and once energy is put into those caps, the only way it leaves is by going through the CPU and getting turned into heat.
It'd slow down how quickly the CPU can increase frequency and exit idle states too. That wouldn't be a problem in performance mode, but then you're making energy efficiency even *worse*.
Yt is so annoying its crashing every 2 min and when i reload it it keeps giving me ads i feel lime im watching Twitch 😂😂😂😂😂
That's a ridiculous capacitance for a single part...
I think the rx 6800-xt uses os-con caps which if true is pretty cool, dunno why they didnt use it for the 6900 tho
really hope you can get the most out of your CPUs with it, because im bummed out on my B650E Taichi Lite with 8000 and 9000 series CPUs. Also on HDV and Lightning itx, so i got an ASUS itx and its miles better. Just my 2 cents I really hope its good for you.
Would you recommend the Taichi or the MSI x870e carbon if you had to choose between the two?
the only upside I can see with the carbon is the PCI-e 3.0 x4 slot from the chipset. The Taichi has ECLK support. As of right now MSI's BIOS implementation is a bit better for RAM OC(tRCDWR and certain settings are less hidden). So it really depends which features you want.
Sadly asrock lack iGPU Oveclock settings :/
I ended up buying the X870E Crosshair Hero because it runs 8000MTs (38-48-48-84) RAM flawlessly, with FCLK and UCLK set to 2000 and the Asus AI Memory Tweaker applied. This actually reduced latency from 74 to 65 in AIDA64, and everything works unbelievably well. The RAM stays between 28 and 39 degrees under load while gaming (I have a fan on the RAM), the chipset stays under 50 degrees, and the 7800X3D runs incredibly cool with an overclock, undervolt, and Curve Shaper applied.
you can oc 7800x3d?
@@Hetsu..with eclk, yes you can.
why not get a f2f call with a asrock representative regarding this mobo ?
Some mobo mfgs feel like they have to do sOMETHINg to justify doubling their prices.... this is guilt. It means the mfg. dOEs care... a little... Brands like MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte... they don't fake it. Make the board as cheap as possible to spec and make more profit.
Ego-Marketing... higher Numbers, more costs , no result.
Legit. This is literally hardware overclocking.
Basically.
You know that products are built to fail and not last, when they use capacitors that have only 20k hours lifespan.
For context, if you leave your PC on 24/7, that is just around 2 years.
Wrong. The rating is at 105c. Every 5-10c lower doubles the projected lifespan, depending on the product line. You're running yours at a temp that basically guarantees 10+ lifespan no matter how degenerate your overclocking is.
@Diablo-D3 gracias 😃
i don't like any of the new crop of ryzen boards. very inflexible with the pcie slot configs. i want more than 2 and one of them being x1 electrical most of the time. i've seen two boards with a 1x physical between the x16 physicals, and a billion m.2 slots i'm not going to use.
i don't want dongles, and it seems like things are migrating that way.
Oh ASRock,, still using "DRMOS SPS" LOL.
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why are they using through hole caps? Seems like a low hanging fruit for reducing ESL and getting a maybe actually measurable improvement
the higher capacitance version probably also has a bit higher ESL than the smaller one, no?
Yeah but try explaining to normie buyers what an ESL and ESR is. Much easier to go for a huge endurance rating and capacitance. Also I haven't measured the ASUS ITX yet to see if the 3 terminal SPCAPs even manage to do anything. It might turn out that the CPU socket is just too much of a bottleneck(which might explain why ASUS removed some MLCCs from the socket on X870)
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking yeah i was a bit confused seeing a giant hole of nothing on the back of the strix 870e-e, had less then the 670e-e.
Will you eventually go over asus x870e crosshair hero?
$400 for a motherboard is just too much
isn't this board out of stock everywhere?
just wait till all major vendors starts putting 20K caps on all boards because that's ObViOslY the reason why that one sell so well /s
What a load of marketing crap 😂
24 110a phases lol
advertisement....You dont need this board for current CPU and price performance please 🙂is it worth it ?!
Bigger number better.
What a weird video. You bought a motherboard just to clown on it? Technical aptitude yes. Fiscal aptitude, no.
Shame Asus mobos xd.
Asrock is by far the best. Very little stupid gimmicks which just break and normally better true features at a lower price. Especially Asus, they just dump Vcore to lower returns etc.
i hate to break it to you, but asrock is an asus brand.. they are the same -___-
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I think you should repeat your analysis and conclusions less. This would result in shorter and more enjoyable videos to watch.
This YT AI voice dub sucks, i can't turn off on RUclips App 💀
Cause This New Mobos allow you to clock better!
Does seem like overkill. My Marshall Plexi replica guitar amp uses filter capacitors after the rectifiers to smooth out the ripple supplying the tubes with 200-480 VDC. There's only a few of them and they range from 16uF to 50+50uF. The main thing is they are rated to handle the high voltage and are high quality, so they do not pop and spray cap juice all over the show. Most nodes supplying the plates/anodes of the tubes only require a couple of stages of filtering to get a very smooth waveform on the scope, but maybe a CPU needs even smoother - I dunno. Electrolytic caps do dry out over time though, so them not being that is good (I remember so many mobos dying on me back in the early 2000s before long life caps became a thing).
Guys, what is SA PLL frequency?