I have yet to figure out whether your videos are meant to inspire other modular players or to keep the rest of us from making a terrible musical instrument mistake. Either way, thanks for sharing!
great vids about the frustration that can occur modular synth. personaly, i’m using a kickall from befaco and plugg it’s output to an attenuator, and then plug this output in a stereo in in my mixer, which is balances for external source. makes things much louder.
I went through a couple of different methods of doing kicks, first synthesising them like you did, then with some dedicated kick modules. Eventually I set my Disting to dual sampler mode and loaded a kick and snare sample into it which I stole from an old trance song. Since then I have never changed the mode on my Disting!
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths I've gone further than that - I just downloaded some music in mp3 format and now I don't have to do anything at all! Instant gratification!
Good God. It's like when you see Deadmau5 studio and he has walls of hardware encompassing him but is on his computer using software synths and Cthulhu with LFO tool.
Quite expensive kickdrum, and fun anecdote: after spending 10 K on eurorack i recently bought a volca drum and within minutes made stuff (slow noisescapes) i have not yet achieved with the modular.
Nice job. Obviously a good or bad kick is very style depended, or even taste if there is such a thing. The cool thing about knowing how to synthesize a kick is that if gives you more options. I would sample the result and maybe layer is or use it in Kick2 as a starting point.
If you replace one of those modules with a sampler then you can save the kick drum and have it for later. Also you got a cirklon next to your rack, that's probably where your kick triggers are coming from. ;-)
but then maybe you want some "roominess" to the kick. So then you need to add a noise source and send that to another vca opened up by another envelope, mixed in with the dirty sine wave before going to the final vca. but then you maybe want to add some gated reverb so then you need to send that final signal to a reverb and get another envelope and invert it to turn down the amount of reverb after the initial hit. and then.....
The point being made is that you can build anything from first principles and some people do exactly that with modular as a sound design workflow for importing into their DAW. Other people prefer a performance modular rig and you most certainly would not use this first principles set up for that, and just have dedicated modules for everything. Nice walkthrough of basic drum sound design though.
Actually.. that's what I rather like about modula.. yeah.. for sure it can be a pain in the ass.. but the joy I get when it all connects is.. worth it (for me) First I've seen of you, gonna give a follow for novelty ;-)))
I use eurorack for effects and modulation. My voices all come from drum machines and semi modular boxes. I'm pretty novice but this combo works for me (so far).
IMHO, this is the most expansive (in hp) way to make a kick. Pinging filters is easier, I think, and requires only 1 trigger or gate and a filter. Take a filter with low-mid-high pass and take one or mix them to shape your kick as you wish. Most filters I know of are also sinewave oscillators. It sounds more natural to me than using a sine ocsillator since it gives also the decay envelope on amplitude AND frequency.
Yes, There are many ways to make a crappy kick drum using a modular synth. Your way is one other way, maybe I’ll make a series on why you hate making kick drums with Modular synthesisers. A crappy kick drum synth off. Which method will synthesise the most rubbish kick?
That's probably why one should either build a eurorack specialized towards percussion and drums and then do the same for other categorizations of instruments or... buy a drum machine.
@@TechnoByHubert that’s right. 50hp worth of kick drum modules are useless if they can’t make a kick drum. Especially if it doesn’t make a 909 kick, because that’s all you need.
Normal que los odies,mezcla lo mejor de lo analógico y digital,por ejemplo,el moog subsequent 37 y haces bo.bom normales trap bass de la ostia y Big room o dubstep,y en VTS dentro del pc y si no te mola el xpert sleepers fh-2 automatizas desde el modulo al pc sin syntes de por medio solo un daw ,macho alguna vez tendrás que pasarlo a digital y con el xpert sleepers haces varios bombos,hats hit Crash congas ETS de mir formad y los usas normal y no los renderizes más solo cuando sea por analógico,así hago yo,bye
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths Simpler and much predictable isn't always bad. Plus i didn't quit synthesis all together. I just quit eurorack. I still love my hardware synths.
I make these videos as a warning to those who might slip into the perilous depths of synthesis. To attempt to give them a chance to escape the grips of modular synthesis, and guide them back to the righteous path of sample packs and drum machines.
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A video telling me why I hate modular synths taught me how to make a really nice kick. Very clever sir
Goddamit!!
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have yet to figure out whether your videos are meant to inspire other modular players or to keep the rest of us from making a terrible musical instrument mistake. Either way, thanks for sharing!
these aren't just good tutorials, but also an interesting watch for people outside the synth world on how synthesizing electronic drums work.
Excellent! I love you ‘Bad Gear’ approach to tutorials 😎
Cool approach to teach modular synthesis, I love it, thank you for sharing knowledge
All the Modular synth demos on RUclips are great, so I've been sampling them and using them in Octatrack.
And of course it's free!
There are so many drones and fart sounds to sample.
great vids about the frustration that can occur modular synth.
personaly, i’m using a kickall from befaco and plugg it’s output to an attenuator, and then plug this output in a stereo in in my mixer, which is balances for external source.
makes things much louder.
I went through a couple of different methods of doing kicks, first synthesising them like you did, then with some dedicated kick modules. Eventually I set my Disting to dual sampler mode and loaded a kick and snare sample into it which I stole from an old trance song. Since then I have never changed the mode on my Disting!
You should take that concept to it's logical conclusion. Computer and sample packs.
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths I've gone further than that - I just downloaded some music in mp3 format and now I don't have to do anything at all! Instant gratification!
@@StephenBrown85 You sir are a genius.
Good God. It's like when you see Deadmau5 studio and he has walls of hardware encompassing him but is on his computer using software synths and Cthulhu with LFO tool.
Quite expensive kickdrum, and fun anecdote: after spending 10 K on eurorack i recently bought a volca drum and within minutes made stuff (slow noisescapes) i have not yet achieved with the modular.
I did the same when I bought a drum. Within minutes I was able to achieve things I hadn’t been able to with a guitar.
Thanks man, you've saved me about £15,000 and 2 years of my time
Love this secretly awesome tutorial : D
Nice job. Obviously a good or bad kick is very style depended, or even taste if there is such a thing. The cool thing about knowing how to synthesize a kick is that if gives you more options. I would sample the result and maybe layer is or use it in Kick2 as a starting point.
Cut to the chase. Buy a sample pack, a computer and be done with it. Synthesis is for chumps.
I've been staring at this 400 some odd HP worth of Eurorack modules sitting beside me wondering: "why do I hate you?" And now I know. THANK YOU!
I’m happy to have helped. You have entered the first of 30 steps.
Great tutorial. I like how you progress from this sounds crap and why to what to do to fix it. Really easy to follow.
Dude! I'm just getting into Patching up my own Kicks, stop spoiling my fun! 😋
Sounds nice. DP0 makes a great drum voice.
If you replace one of those modules with a sampler then you can save the kick drum and have it for later. Also you got a cirklon next to your rack, that's probably where your kick triggers are coming from. ;-)
Best get a Akai sampler i think. I don't know what that Cirk thing does, i found it in a skip bin and can't figure it out.
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths I love your dedication to the bit.
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths I own an Akai, a Deluge, and a Rossum Assimil8or in Eurorack. Hands down the Assimil8or wins. It is so fast to use.
@@guysmiley7289 Oh? In that case, maybe an E-mu E series sampler.
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths I'll look into that. I can see a Proteus in my future.
haha this is funny! Also kind of true. Pretty fun to design a kick on modular, may be worth sampling it to actually use it
but then maybe you want some "roominess" to the kick. So then you need to add a noise source and send that to another vca opened up by another envelope, mixed in with the dirty sine wave before going to the final vca. but then you maybe want to add some gated reverb so then you need to send that final signal to a reverb and get another envelope and invert it to turn down the amount of reverb after the initial hit. and then.....
Thanks for further proving the point.
The point being made is that you can build anything from first principles and some people do exactly that with modular as a sound design workflow for importing into their DAW. Other people prefer a performance modular rig and you most certainly would not use this first principles set up for that, and just have dedicated modules for everything. Nice walkthrough of basic drum sound design though.
Hundreds of kick drum sample already exist. synthesizing kicks is foly.
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths some people just enjoy their own sound design? I’m more of a module per voice and have no time for sh1t like thwt
@markbooth searching for a proper kick drum is so exhausting😂😂there are just loads of samples, I prefer designing them myself😂😂
Thanks - I was going to buy some modules. Now I'm scared
Actually.. that's what I rather like about modula..
yeah.. for sure it can be a pain in the ass.. but the joy I get when it all connects is.. worth it (for me)
First I've seen of you, gonna give a follow for novelty ;-)))
thanks for the follow and for appreciating my novel channel.
I use eurorack for effects and modulation. My voices all come from drum machines and semi modular boxes. I'm pretty novice but this combo works for me (so far).
You should ditch the modular FX and m,odulation too.
This is why I make my kicks either in software or with my Microwave.
I usually only use my microwave for cooking Ramen but that is very creative.
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths Yours probably costs a bit less than mine, but mine has a big red knob on it.
IMHO, this is the most expansive (in hp) way to make a kick. Pinging filters is easier, I think, and requires only 1 trigger or gate and a filter. Take a filter with low-mid-high pass and take one or mix them to shape your kick as you wish. Most filters I know of are also sinewave oscillators. It sounds more natural to me than using a sine ocsillator since it gives also the decay envelope on amplitude AND frequency.
Yes, There are many ways to make a crappy kick drum using a modular synth. Your way is one other way, maybe I’ll make a series on why you hate making kick drums with
Modular synthesisers. A crappy kick drum synth off. Which method will synthesise the most rubbish kick?
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths Or the least efficient ways to make one ?
@@micowata Efficiency and Modular synths is the road to hell paved with Distings , Ornament & Crime and 2hp modules.
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths 😂🤣🤩
Great one nice
You based in Sydney or Melbourne?
Love this ❤
That's probably why one should either build a eurorack specialized towards percussion and drums and then do the same for other categorizations of instruments or... buy a drum machine.
Agreed, it’s probably even better better to just use a computer and sample packs of played out 909 samples. Synthesis is over rated.
After watching your videos, FM Synthesis doesn't seem that complicated any more.
just use the same envelope, it sounds great.
but yeah if simple kicks are what you want synthesizing them from scratch is a big ask.
Yeah synthesizing any of it from scratch is futile. Just us an x0x sample. It’s clearly all that is needed since the 80s
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths you are correct ofc, it is futile.
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that title is as divisive as a doepfer A-160-2
I dedicate 50+HP just for synthesizing a kick drum. :D
Yea, I hate it as well.
Thanks for sharing your terrible story.
I'd wager all the modules used in those 50+HP cost more than an *actual* kick drum.
@@massimookissed1023 you bet. Doesn't even make an actual kick drum sound!
Hate modular
@@TechnoByHubert that’s right. 50hp worth of kick drum modules are useless if they can’t make a kick drum. Especially if it doesn’t make a 909 kick, because that’s all you need.
I'm thinking Arduino with Midi / CV / gate~trig input, -> stepper motor / servo with soft mallet, -> actual bass drum. 😀
I like it.
My bank account hates modular synths!
Normal que los odies,mezcla lo mejor de lo analógico y digital,por ejemplo,el moog subsequent 37 y haces bo.bom normales trap bass de la ostia y Big room o dubstep,y en VTS dentro del pc y si no te mola el xpert sleepers fh-2 automatizas desde el modulo al pc sin syntes de por medio solo un daw ,macho alguna vez tendrás que pasarlo a digital y con el xpert sleepers haces varios bombos,hats hit Crash congas ETS de mir formad y los usas normal y no los renderizes más solo cuando sea por analógico,así hago yo,bye
starting to wonder if im a masochist bc this didnt make me any less interested in modular
You most certainly are.
isn't synthesis the reason why many get into modular?
Synthesis is for chumps. Sample packs is where it’s at.
😂😂😂this was good
yes. exactly this is why i gave up on eurorack.
Quiting synthesis makes life simpler and much more predictable.
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths Simpler and much predictable isn't always bad.
Plus i didn't quit synthesis all together.
I just quit eurorack.
I still love my hardware synths.
both kick sound the same
All the more reason to use sample packs.
Got to spend more money bro, level up your game!
J/K 🤣
That was my first thought.
Why even make this video?
I make these videos as a warning to those who might slip into the perilous depths of synthesis. To attempt to give them a chance to escape the grips of modular synthesis, and guide them back to the righteous path of sample packs and drum machines.
@@whyyouhatemodularsynths Righteous az fuk
@@claycowartisamazing Synthesis is for nerds.
@@LukeKillen Yeah, I can beat any of you up IRL. I won.
@@claycowartisamazing With your name being what it is, I'm not surprised that you think that.
It's a synth, not a DAW.
Interesting. I'd never considered that.
8k views barely any likes...take the hint
Irony is lost on so many.