@@ToolsMethodsPhilosophiesI got the 3/8" drive 8-19mm deep and shallow set from tone from Amazon Japan for less than the price of just the koken shallow 3/8" 8-19mm set. So, I'd say about 30% to 40% less than the koken depending where you get them. They are beautiful sockets too. They have a beautiful finish, very nice broaching, and are just very nice, high quality sockets. To me, they look identical to the koken set. Not the koken zeal series, but the regular koken series. I would wait for Amazon Japan to get them back in stock because they are much much cheaper than the other sellers who currently have them for sale right now on Amazon. I believe I got the complete set for just under $100, but again, that was from Amazon Japan, and they are currently out of stock from Amazon Japan right now.
Sorry - I probably should have put the question I was responding to - lol. I think they're both excellent sockets. The Z-series are more expensive, but shorter and feel extremely heavy-duty. I don't think the "regular" Ko-ken set is "cheap" as in low-quality, but they have more mass to work with. The Z comes with a nice rail also. :)
You need the nut grip, surface drive, and 12 point. Then semi deep and deep. Then 1/4 and 1/2” drive. Then all that in impact. Don’t forget the swivels. It gets expensive real fast.
@@ToolsMethodsPhilosophies Honestly, I don't have close to all of that, and as just a DIY'er (though a pretty active one) I don't think I need it. I have a lot of sockets because I'm crazy, but I could do just fine with my core set - standard 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" in chrome, 3/8" long (all 6-point) and a regular set of 1/2" impact sockets in standard and long. I've gone affordable on extensions and swivels for the most part, and that kit has been great for me. If I were a working pro, I'd probably feel different.
@@themessygarage I agree as a fellow DIYer and I was just joking. Nut grip koken sockets are awesome and make some work easier. Just buy a common one for $10 to test yourself
I have the Z-series in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 - Top quality sockets to work in tight spaces. I wish the markings on them were bigger/wider - Stay Safe
Really appreciate the comment, and thanks for watching!
These koken sockets look to be the real deal. You've made me want to try them out!
Looking forward to your next video.
I've really enjoyed using them!
The regular kokens are identical to the tone, and the tone is cheaper. They look to be the same socket with a different name, honestly.
@@victorhoyt4352 how much cheaper?
@@ToolsMethodsPhilosophiesI got the 3/8" drive 8-19mm deep and shallow set from tone from Amazon Japan for less than the price of just the koken shallow 3/8" 8-19mm set. So, I'd say about 30% to 40% less than the koken depending where you get them. They are beautiful sockets too. They have a beautiful finish, very nice broaching, and are just very nice, high quality sockets. To me, they look identical to the koken set. Not the koken zeal series, but the regular koken series. I would wait for Amazon Japan to get them back in stock because they are much much cheaper than the other sellers who currently have them for sale right now on Amazon. I believe I got the complete set for just under $100, but again, that was from Amazon Japan, and they are currently out of stock from Amazon Japan right now.
i appreciate you making this video, but i watched it twice while stretching and I still don’t know the difference between the two socket series 😂
Sorry - I probably should have put the question I was responding to - lol. I think they're both excellent sockets. The Z-series are more expensive, but shorter and feel extremely heavy-duty. I don't think the "regular" Ko-ken set is "cheap" as in low-quality, but they have more mass to work with. The Z comes with a nice rail also. :)
You need the nut grip, surface drive, and 12 point. Then semi deep and deep. Then 1/4 and 1/2” drive. Then all that in impact. Don’t forget the swivels. It gets expensive real fast.
@@ToolsMethodsPhilosophies Honestly, I don't have close to all of that, and as just a DIY'er (though a pretty active one) I don't think I need it. I have a lot of sockets because I'm crazy, but I could do just fine with my core set - standard 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" in chrome, 3/8" long (all 6-point) and a regular set of 1/2" impact sockets in standard and long. I've gone affordable on extensions and swivels for the most part, and that kit has been great for me. If I were a working pro, I'd probably feel different.
@@themessygarage I agree as a fellow DIYer and I was just joking. Nut grip koken sockets are awesome and make some work easier. Just buy a common one for $10 to test yourself
Snap on have the shallow version
I'm sure they do - PN? Price?
@@themessygarage 209RFSM price $201.30 you have 2 sets one without low profile ratchet and one with