Jay, A BIG THANK YOU!!! I am, essentially, a new rider with 1 yr owner of my first motorcycle @ 59. It's an 2k1 Goldwing 1800. I took my local advance class Ride Like A Pro. My first time was major FAILURE. I did retake the class and did better. My goal after the first class was to do a 24 ft u-turn to an 18 ft. After watching this video and you teaching clutch and throttle control was tremendous. My goal was to practice for 1hr to get to 18ft. Well within that hr, with your concept in my head, 18ft was ACHIEVED 🎉. I stayed out 2.5 hrs just doing u-turns left and (my weakest) right turn. I went down the row of spaces. I even had an audience. Thank you!!!
its all about knowing your weight and the turning radius of your bike, just like a car. when you know how far you can turn your steering wheel before it locks, youll be able to make a Uturn with out having to back up to complete it.
Well done Sir! I call it 'Stop Drop and Roll' It takes some practice but it is very doable. I get a lot of practice, you see when traveling my wife will blurt out "Oh look, we just passed _____". My next words are " U turn, coming about." Those drop guards look cool! I have some research to to do.
Jay...that was awesome..great video. I have a 98 ,GL1500. I'm 70 and this is the biggest Bike I've owned. I'll start practicing my u turns using that friction zone like in this video of yours. I hope some day before I get too old, to get a 2021, 22 gl1800 dct
Wow! Wow!. Didn’t think that was possible with that bike. I have the 2019 manual. Can’t get the appropriate drop guards but i do practice quite a bit. You just got a new subscriber. Impressive riding.
I think it's national cycle that has the fronts created for the 18 and newer. The rears are still up to you to find a good fabricator. When you do get some I would use the shaft collars from hardware suppliers to protect them from damage. Still hard to get protection for our bikes still.
Good video, I was struggling with this on my 08 GL1800. My bike had the horrible off idle stumble and I damn near dropped the bike when trying to do this maneuver. I finally got it fixed and it is much easier to do when the bike is running correctly.
@@terryboyle I tried several fixes until I read a very obscure post on Goldwing Forums. Take your shelter off and disassemble to do a air filter change. Get an old toothbrush soaked in Seafoam and gently scrub the throat of the throttle body right where the butterfly touches the sides in the idle position. If you look very closely , you will see a slim black line where the butterfly touches the throat. I have done this twice to mine, fixed it both times. Seems about every 20K this needs done, but it absolutely fixes the problem. Caution, do not use carb cleaner, only use Seafoam. Good luck.
The last time I took the test for a new license, I had to ACTUALLY STOP! You did not actually stop!! My tester (the officer) said that he would be watching my back tire and it had to STOP in order to pass the test, which also included my following him for 25 feet while he walked the 25 feet.
you get nervous for good reason. it could lift your front wheel if it scrapes hard. maybe you could add a pivot so when it scrapes, the board will flex upwards a little to give you that extra lean angle. it can scrape without being dangerous.
Good camerawork! Officer Jay, do you have a book or video where you get into the details re: how you did this ? Like, were you in 1st or 2nd gear when you went into a uTurn from a stop? What about when you rolled into a uTurn, was that 2nd gear? Were you at about 2300 rpm for one and maybe 2500 rpm for the other? I've bought a number of Officer Palladino's DVDs but I'm not doing them justice; I still drop that Wing. Scraped the heck out of them guards. Thanks for posting what you did.
a bike will try to upright itself once you hit that throttle once in a turn. its a matter of anticipation. He looks like a superhero when he does that.
I know this video is old but where you get those flashing red and blue braking lights and by the way great riding skills I’m not there yet but still practicing. Thanks
What are you looking at as you're doing the U-turn? It's not the MSF "look over your shoulder" that we're teaching. Looks like you're looking at multiple points through the turn.
Look where u want to go is the right thing for learning but u get to a point where it becomes more about control..I dont recommend anybody do what indo in this video...I was in an empty parking lot speaking about controlling the motorcycle not just riding it. ruclips.net/video/bnljM_Pm1S0/видео.html
So the "trick" is to give throttle while beginning the turn to keep momentum so that the bike doesn't fall inwards? Or do you also have to play with the clutch? I see so many videos but none of them explain really how to get such a tight radius in the u-turn. I can do a normal u-turn but I want to get as narrow as possible in the turn.
I'm raising the rpms as I release the throttle and turn..as rpms raise I keep turning the bike controlling the friction zone because if u let out to much the bike will accelerate
Clutch friction zone is your main control while the rpm is kept higher so the engine doesn't start from it's idle rpm when you need power. It depends on the bike but some have a lag, as a result if you do the control entirely with the throttle what happens is you begin to fall, you rev the rpm, initially nothing happens and you keep falling and roll the throttle even more but then the rpm catches up and your bike goes straight ahead or the engine dies off and you fall directly to the ground. So keep rpms higher, master the friction zone and learn to apply the rear break as means of slowing down the bike. And knowing the theory is important so you trust the process but hours and hours of practice is the key. And be prepared to drop the bike - it is not desirable but it happens in real life, I personally don't know a single person who's never drop their bike. So install engine guards at least. Oh, I almost forgot - LEARN THE PROPER BIKE LIFTING TECHNIQUE!!! And if possible have someone experience to help you with the entire process, including lifting your bike. You don't want to end up with a hernia or bulged L2-L3 disk, as I did.
Hello Robert. I had the opportunity to ride a Honda DCT on December 6. I posted a video of my first 10 mins on it. Make sure to subscribe to us here on youtube for new videos in January. Have a Happy New Year sir!
How’s your exhaust header covers after this? I scraped them a couple of times while practicing, sometimes even turning on the road, it bugs me quite a lot
I got an 88 GL1500 with a steel frame, and I have trouble with slow turns. Throttle is touchy, so haven't got comfortable with tight turns yet. Don't think i'm gonna pass the test in this thing, haha
Actually you don't even need throttle for u turns such as this whether on a Harley or Honda Goldwing. You can use the clutch only for a full lock u turn, even from a dead stop. For fun i use the throttle only in first gear while the clutch is wide open (which I don't recommend) i do it just to break the boredom.
Soooo, the GW has a very jerky first gear, are you using it in the video? Control at slow speed use of second gear and rear brake. Curious the mechanics of the function, as to the tall clumsy design of the frame and its wandering center of gravity.
I am using second gear here as most don't have the throttle control in first. Saying that though, in second gear you have to shoot the throttle up a little fast. You can actually just use the clutch to make these turns as well, and for fun i leave the clutch wide open and use the throttle (Which I don't recommend!) i do it just for fun.
Got mine on order .. I was a pre order on this round so hopefully I’m one of the lucky 100 thst wil get from this round of chrome ones. Been practicing with the 2019 FLHR but a bit nervous to take it to the boards like I used to on the fatboy which was older and I didn’t worth if it dropped. Didn’t drop it but got close. However it seems when I don’t THINK and just DO based off of the training I do I’m much better and can do a damn respectable u turn on the FLHR.. thjng is way better low speed bike than the FB lo
Gerald, we are really working hard on a video to hopefully help folks like you to get out there and be able to learn these techniques in a different type of setting.
Ok, but you got clutch control which makes it easier and safer. I got the SC 79 version (°2019) with DCT and I dont 't dare to turn that tight for that reason !
@@motorofficertraining Nice feeling, the DCT, isn' t it, but perhaps better a clutch-controlled bike to manoeuvre it in tight turns ... . Wish you all the best ! I envy your skills (lol) ! Wish I were that good ! Kind regards, Alain (from Belgium).
Jay, A BIG THANK YOU!!! I am, essentially, a new rider with 1 yr owner of my first motorcycle @ 59. It's an 2k1 Goldwing 1800. I took my local advance class Ride Like A Pro. My first time was major FAILURE. I did retake the class and did better. My goal after the first class was to do a 24 ft u-turn to an 18 ft. After watching this video and you teaching clutch and throttle control was tremendous. My goal was to practice for 1hr to get to 18ft. Well within that hr, with your concept in my head, 18ft was ACHIEVED 🎉. I stayed out 2.5 hrs just doing u-turns left and (my weakest) right turn. I went down the row of spaces. I even had an audience. Thank you!!!
I don't understand how you keep such tight circles.
Excellent riding skills.
Thanks for the lesson
its all about knowing your weight and the turning radius of your bike, just like a car. when you know how far you can turn your steering wheel before it locks, youll be able to make a Uturn with out having to back up to complete it.
you need to lean it to get tight turn
It’s easy just TURN YOUR HEAD 🤗👍👍
Well done Sir! I call it 'Stop Drop and Roll' It takes some practice but it is very doable. I get a lot of practice, you see when traveling my wife will blurt out "Oh look, we just passed _____". My next words are " U turn, coming about." Those drop guards look cool! I have some research to to do.
you’re just having way too much fun. motorcycles are fun.
that’s why we ride them.
stay safe everyone !!!!
Jay...that was awesome..great video.
I have a 98 ,GL1500. I'm 70 and this is the biggest Bike I've owned.
I'll start practicing my u turns using that friction zone like in this video of yours. I hope some day before I get too old, to get a 2021, 22 gl1800 dct
Great video. I am a goldwing rider and agree with you. Alot of people think it can't be done. Here's the proof. Man you get that thing low.
Absolutely stunning and amazing control. Something to practice....
Wow! Wow!. Didn’t think that was possible with that bike. I have the 2019 manual. Can’t get the appropriate drop guards but i do practice quite a bit. You just got a new subscriber. Impressive riding.
Thank you sir! You can do this easily. Just practice with the right techniques that wont tear your bike up.
I think it's national cycle that has the fronts created for the 18 and newer. The rears are still up to you to find a good fabricator. When you do get some I would use the shaft collars from hardware suppliers to protect them from damage. Still hard to get protection for our bikes still.
Beautiful bike. I miss our Goldwings.
Good video, I was struggling with this on my 08 GL1800. My bike had the horrible off idle stumble and I damn near dropped the bike when trying to do this maneuver. I finally got it fixed and it is much easier to do when the bike is running correctly.
what did it take to fix the stumble, mine just started doing it after 5 years with no issues
@@terryboyle I tried several fixes until I read a very obscure post on Goldwing Forums. Take your shelter off and disassemble to do a air filter change. Get an old toothbrush soaked in Seafoam and gently scrub the throat of the throttle body right where the butterfly touches the sides in the idle position. If you look very closely , you will see a slim black line where the butterfly touches the throat. I have done this twice to mine, fixed it both times. Seems about every 20K this needs done, but it absolutely fixes the problem. Caution, do not use carb cleaner, only use Seafoam. Good luck.
@@campnut6076 outside of my comfort level but damn I am at almost the exact mileage you quoted. Thanks for the prompt response.
The last time I took the test for a new license, I had to ACTUALLY STOP! You did not actually stop!! My tester (the officer) said that he would be watching my back tire and it had to STOP in order to pass the test, which also included my following him for 25 feet while he walked the 25 feet.
They made u balance while stopped with feet up then drop into an 18’-er ?
Brilliant control
Thanks
When i make a u-turn My floorboards scrape and I get nervous, I need to get over that.
you get nervous for good reason.
it could lift your front wheel if it scrapes hard.
maybe you could add a pivot so when it scrapes, the board will flex upwards a little to give you that extra lean angle.
it can scrape without being dangerous.
Out there u don't need to do 18' or less U-turns , 24' is more ideal and safer. Just my opinion 😊
Good camerawork! Officer Jay, do you have a book or video where you get into the details re: how you did this ? Like, were you in 1st or 2nd gear when you went into a uTurn from a stop? What about when you rolled into a uTurn, was that 2nd gear? Were you at about 2300 rpm for one and maybe 2500 rpm for the other? I've bought a number of Officer Palladino's DVDs but I'm not doing them justice; I still drop that Wing. Scraped the heck out of them guards. Thanks for posting what you did.
Where are you located? Do you offer courses?
Yes, we train students in Houston, Texas.
a bike will try to upright itself once you hit that throttle once in a turn. its a matter of anticipation. He looks like a superhero when he does that.
Thank you sir! I am the furthest thing from a superhero though! Just a guy who loves to ride and train is all.
you are best one so far and doubt if anyone can match you (this is a dig for Palladino )
I know this video is old but where you get those flashing red and blue braking lights and by the way great riding skills I’m not there yet but still practicing. Thanks
Smoooth as silk
Thank you sir.
What techniques are you using for the right U turms?
He sure makes it look easy don't he
Thank you sir! You can do it just as easy. Just clutch engagement and throttle control is all it is (Practice)
Great video. How can I reach you directly for additional tips?
Just email me...jay@motorcycledropguards.com
I wish I was this good with my Goldwing. Very few nice empty carparks near me to practice with.
one word : impressive !
Thank you need more Gold Wing instruction videos - I use an 86 1200 Aspencade
What are you looking at as you're doing the U-turn? It's not the MSF "look over your shoulder" that we're teaching. Looks like you're looking at multiple points through the turn.
Look where u want to go is the right thing for learning but u get to a point where it becomes more about control..I dont recommend anybody do what indo in this video...I was in an empty parking lot speaking about controlling the motorcycle not just riding it. ruclips.net/video/bnljM_Pm1S0/видео.html
So the "trick" is to give throttle while beginning the turn to keep momentum so that the bike doesn't fall inwards? Or do you also have to play with the clutch? I see so many videos but none of them explain really how to get such a tight radius in the u-turn. I can do a normal u-turn but I want to get as narrow as possible in the turn.
I'm raising the rpms as I release the throttle and turn..as rpms raise I keep turning the bike controlling the friction zone because if u let out to much the bike will accelerate
Clutch friction zone is your main control while the rpm is kept higher so the engine doesn't start from it's idle rpm when you need power. It depends on the bike but some have a lag, as a result if you do the control entirely with the throttle what happens is you begin to fall, you rev the rpm, initially nothing happens and you keep falling and roll the throttle even more but then the rpm catches up and your bike goes straight ahead or the engine dies off and you fall directly to the ground. So keep rpms higher, master the friction zone and learn to apply the rear break as means of slowing down the bike. And knowing the theory is important so you trust the process but hours and hours of practice is the key. And be prepared to drop the bike - it is not desirable but it happens in real life, I personally don't know a single person who's never drop their bike. So install engine guards at least. Oh, I almost forgot - LEARN THE PROPER BIKE LIFTING TECHNIQUE!!! And if possible have someone experience to help you with the entire process, including lifting your bike. You don't want to end up with a hernia or bulged L2-L3 disk, as I did.
Absolutely awesome 🙌🙌🙌
Thank you sir!! Anyone can do it though..
Best looking Goldwing I have ever seen. What year is that and did it come all blacked-out?? AWESOME!
That was a 2016. It was painted. The bike came black, and gray as i recall
Good Job , nice bike
WOW thats incredible.
Great demo. Can someone do what you are doing with a Honda Gold Wing and a DCT transmission? I would think not but really don't know the answer.
I can 't with my Pearl Hawkseye Blue DCT purchased just one year ago ! Too scary ! Done only 4.000 miles with it in one year.
Yes, there are low speed vids like this with the gw dct. The dct just does all the clutch work. The other techniques are the same
Hello Robert. I had the opportunity to ride a Honda DCT on December 6. I posted a video of my first 10 mins on it. Make sure to subscribe to us here on youtube for new videos in January. Have a Happy New Year sir!
That’s some bad ass ridin!
How’s your exhaust header covers after this? I scraped them a couple of times while practicing, sometimes even turning on the road, it bugs me quite a lot
I got an 88 GL1500 with a steel frame, and I have trouble with slow turns. Throttle is touchy, so haven't got comfortable with tight turns yet. Don't think i'm gonna pass the test in this thing, haha
You can do it. Just practice that clutch engagement and throttle control.
Are you doing that in second gear? I find slipping the clutch in turns like that 1st Gear too low.
I Love you my FRIEND.❤️💪🏼👍
LOL. I need all the love I can get! Thanks
Did you have the center stand removed to do this low maneuver?
Wow!!! Way cool!!!
Thank you sir! Check back for new videos in January and make sure to subscribe.
Ho Old you??? 68??? Bravo👍💪🏼
Your a pro man I can't get mine that low yet
Thanks for the kind words. Yes you can do it, its just practice like anything!
How does it work with DCT?
Oh what the hell
🤦♂️ I don’t think I have the balls to try that or the u turn from a stop
What year is that GL? I like it all black
2016
Why is he doing the uturns or 2nd or 3rd gear?
I am using 1st and 2nd.
Two words: Throttle Control!
Actually you don't even need throttle for u turns such as this whether on a Harley or Honda Goldwing. You can use the clutch only for a full lock u turn, even from a dead stop. For fun i use the throttle only in first gear while the clutch is wide open (which I don't recommend) i do it just to break the boredom.
Soooo, the GW has a very jerky first gear, are you using it in the video? Control at slow speed use of second gear and rear brake. Curious the mechanics of the function, as to the tall clumsy design of the frame and its wandering center of gravity.
I would stay in first but use the clutch to control your speed
I am using second gear here as most don't have the throttle control in first. Saying that though, in second gear you have to shoot the throttle up a little fast. You can actually just use the clutch to make these turns as well, and for fun i leave the clutch wide open and use the throttle (Which I don't recommend!) i do it just for fun.
So have you or will you be making anything for the 2018 Goldwing tour?
I have a 2002 Goldwing. Do you have a product for my bike?
Great!!!!
Thanks I appreciate that. Check us out starting in January we will be putting new videos up. Have a Happy New Year!
Got mine on order .. I was a pre order on this round so hopefully I’m one of the lucky 100 thst wil get from this round of chrome ones.
Been practicing with the 2019 FLHR but a bit nervous to take it to the boards like I used to on the fatboy which was older and I didn’t worth if it dropped. Didn’t drop it but got close.
However it seems when I don’t THINK and just DO based off of the training I do I’m much better and can do a damn respectable u turn on the FLHR.. thjng is way better low speed bike than the FB lo
Gerald, we are really working hard on a video to hopefully help folks like you to get out there and be able to learn these techniques in a different type of setting.
Are drop guards available for a gl1800?
Do you make drop guards for 2018+ Goldwing?
We have, but we dont at this time.
Ok, but you got clutch control which makes it easier and safer. I got the SC 79 version (°2019) with DCT and I dont 't dare to turn that tight for that reason !
Hello Alan, I just got to ride a DCT for the first time this past Sunday, wasn't mine but I got to ride it for about an hour or so.
@@motorofficertraining Nice feeling, the DCT, isn' t it, but perhaps better a clutch-controlled bike to manoeuvre it in tight turns ... . Wish you all the best ! I envy your skills (lol) ! Wish I were that good ! Kind regards, Alain (from Belgium).
hmmm, I have a '97 GL1500C Valkyrie... she's a tad longer that that motor! I'd need more space... 😃
ok you showed off but no info
Dieses kratzen XD es ist nicht schlimm aber es ist ein irres Geräusch und man erschreckt jedes Mal.
I can't get tighter than 2.5 parking spaces. Any additional tips?
Out there u just need 3 parking spaces, 2 isn't preferable unless you really want to learn..but I think 24' is normal I'm the real world
Ride that fucking clutch dude lol less throttle and let it out. Same thing happens
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