I'm 52 and I have a 12 year old son. When I was his age the 200" Hale was what we junior astronomers talked about. I used to write letters to "The Hale Observatory" in Pasadena and they were always kind enough to send back black and white pictures. It would be so amazing to be my son's age again because the next 40 years are going to be amazing.
I’m about the same age. I remember when Hale was THE telescope as well (given the Soviet telescope had problems). We’ve come a long way since then and are heading for some pretty amazing times!
I just love those old telescopes with their massive mounts and their beautiful design. What a proof of ingenuity, and the evolution of big telescopes is amazing.
It's incredible that we'll soon have telescopes with mirrors the size of a football stadium soon. Let's also not forget the engineering behind these marvels, without which no science can be done.
You are assuming the jw telescope actually yes launched in the '20s LOL!! I would not bet my life on it. But yes over all things are looking cool. Space is awesome. I am just getting back into exploring and photographing, after a long time away. Still have my trusty celestron C-8 from 1978
Next telescope will be called the Overwhelmingly Large Telescope. The next one will be called Oh my God what a huge telescope! The next one will be called WTF telescope. The next one after that will be called the speechlessly large beyond large telescope. The next one will be called I can see aliens eating breakfast with my indescribably unfathomably large telescope! Just kidding. This is some remarkable technology to build something of this size and capability. How do they even design stuff this complex?
If you built a Basically Large Telescope and put it on a hill in the small town of Rye, East Sussex, England, you could possibly have the most famously named telescope of all time, you would have... a " BLT on Rye " !!!!
that is too too funny!! Thanks for sharing that nugget!!! There is a "Rye" Arizona which is a CDP "census designated place as it has a population of 77!! THANKS AGAIN!!!
@Donald Kasper Stars rotate around their galaxy. The galaxies move. Just like Andromeda is moving toward us. Light gains energy and shifts blue when moving toward us(gain in frequency) and red when moving away(loss in frequency). This is simple physics. We weren't even sure other Galaxies existed, until 1929 when Hubble published an article - using Cepheid variable stars to measure distance - that showed Andromeda was not in the Milky Way, but another Galaxy.
I had no idea ground based telescopes could have systems to counteract the atmosphere's turbulence. Pretty interesting stuff, and exciting to think about what discoveries the near future holds!
I wonder how well this scope will handle all the hundreds (soon to be thousands) of Space X satellites flying overhead? What elevation is the mountain this scope will rest upon? Thanks for a great video
Aw man it sucks that they had to lower the size due to budget... Just divert a few billion from the US defense budget and bam! 100m telescope! Such a shame we're being held back as a species by such petty things.
Don’t worry, they will make it one day. This is already much larger than previous ones, so it’s ”big enough”, it’s like getting one smaller and one bigger chocolate bars instead of just one large.
Thanks Launch Pad. I was referring to deep field and extra deep field imaging. Hubble would spend weeks for its exposures. How will these Very Large Telescopes duplicate such ambitious exposures?
I'm not certain, but my guess is that these telescopes wouldn't be well-suited to those types of long-duration imaging because of the dynamic atmosphere. Adaptive optics will help in the near-IR, but it would still need to be a cloudless, steady night for several nights. So yes, it might be doable but could they justify that much time for an uncertain payoff?
Well for one thing, where Hubble is, it is always night time. Deep field was days of exposure. Of course stacking is always an option and you can add more and more data in the future. Amateurs are are accumulating many hours of data, over years.
But the OWL - Overwhelmingly Large (telescope) is a rather clever and catchy name. Well, perhaps after they finish the ELT they can come back to the idea of an even bigger telescope and recycle the name.
Decades ago I use to wonder why they didn't put enough emphasis on advanced telescopes terrestrial and in outer space instead of so much in the other areas of astronauts etc. Maybe I'm wrong as the technology wasn't advanced enough... yet the could've focused on that as Hubble was doing so well, teaching us more about the universe than anything since Galileo is what I read.
I've been hanging out for this and other telescopes in the Atacama desert!! The JWST is amazing but there's a Milli Vanilli component (a duo that in the late 80's was busted for lip sinking in their concerts ( you know inserting data that isn't really there) in infrared because the there's NO color to be had!!
Imagine in the future seeing a picture on a newspaper front page of an earthlike planet, with oceans, clouds, polar caps, continents, and patches of green indicating signs of life.
These videos make me happy so many countries coming together for such an insane space endeavor. That mirror technology is HUUUGE to correct for earths atmosphere. These pictures are gonna be SOOOOOOO sick. I can't wait.
Just revisiting this post. QUESTION: Orbiting telescopes are stabilized to be able to take long time-exposures. How can an earthbound scope "lock" long enough to gain a sufficient exposure?
Ground based telescopes are mounted to counter rotate against the sky’s apparent rotation, so it can remain locked on target for as long as it’s above the horizon.
Now try attaching a FLIR CAMERA to this huge telescope and let's see what we ALL have been missing on the moon in plain sight on the light side of the moon!?
Just saw you over on Fraser Cains Channel so I popped over and just watched your video. I have what may be a dumb question but how do they keep such large telescopes clean? Whether its just dust settling on the mirrors or bug and bird droppings?
Thanks for dropping by! Yeah, that's an important question. When it comes to segmented mirrors like ELT, GMT, Keck, etc., individual segments are removed for cleaning and replaced with a spare. In ELT's case, one will be removed for cleaning every day. Also, the dome is air-conditioned during the day to keep the dust down.
Man, can you imagine the resolution of the OWL had it not been cancelled? You could probably be able to resolve the stuff the Apollo astronauts left on the moon with such a large aperture.
OWL was ambitious, though I was surprised to learn it actually wouldn't have resolved the Apollo landing site. I believe you need a 200 meter aperture for that. So, a super OWL? :)
@@LaunchPadAstronomy I thought a 100 m aperture could resolve up to 0.001 arcsec which ought to be just enough to resolve the lunar landers. Guess we need an utterly overwhelmingly large telescope! Do you think a hypothetical 10 km wide aperture can resolve Sagittarius A* on it's own?
@@srinitaaigaura No. Sagittarius A* has an apparent size in the night sky of a marble... lying around on the Moon's surface, as seen from Earth. To have a shot at resolving it visually, you'd need an aperture measured in 1000's of kilometers, out there in space. And that's obviously completely unrealistic, so as it stands - interferometry was the only way.
I always wondered whether which takes less time: to design the telescope, or for the committee to choose a cheeky backronym that corresponds to an actual word.
Suggestion for future telescope names: BAT -- Big Ass Telescope BTYT -- Bigger Than Your Telescope TOBS -- Telescope of Big Size (this one is French) RLT -- Rather Large Telescope (probably British) BATMAN -- Big Ass Telescope Matrix Array Network
We need another Hubble type telescope. I'm not talking about a JW scope. A Hubble 2.0 with a larger lighter mirror like 2.5 times the size of the old Hubble. They should wait a few decades so that designers can take advantage of new technologies which are not yet developed. You can't beat space for viewing advantages.
. *How does this ELT Earth telescope compare to the James Webb space telescope?* I understand it's six times stronger, but it's going through our cloudy atmosphere. .
Let in answering, but James Webb is primarily oriented towards the infrared. It's for seeing very far out, where the light has been red shifted heavily by the time it gets to us. Earth based telescopes can't really see in that spectrum because there's way too much heat pollution down here.
No. It turns out that you'd need a telescope with an aperture of ~60 m to resolve a car at optical wavelengths, though likely larger to compensate for atmospheric effects. Perhaps someday though!
Going to need a pair of Leibheer LR 13000 super cranes just to lift the sub assemblies for this oil platform sized observatory. Better call Sarens or Mammoet for all the super lifting and heavy moves. Big structures demand super sized construction hardware
6:17 "... a major step forward in answering the question of are we alone and if life can exist beyond Earth." - like if detecting water and organic molecules says anything about life that is not based on those assumptions...
The thing is, life is just chemistry. And chemistry needs a liquid solvent for reactions to happen. And water happens to be the only one that's liquid in a non-extreme temperature and doesn't happen to be corrosive or else.
I'm 52 and I have a 12 year old son. When I was his age the 200" Hale was what we junior astronomers talked about. I used to write letters to "The Hale Observatory" in Pasadena and they were always kind enough to send back black and white pictures. It would be so amazing to be my son's age again because the next 40 years are going to be amazing.
I’m about the same age. I remember when Hale was THE telescope as well (given the Soviet telescope had problems). We’ve come a long way since then and are heading for some pretty amazing times!
I just love those old telescopes with their massive mounts and their beautiful design. What a proof of ingenuity, and the evolution of big telescopes is amazing.
It's incredible that we'll soon have telescopes with mirrors the size of a football stadium soon. Let's also not forget the engineering behind these marvels, without which no science can be done.
Civilized World: “$1.5 billion for a telescope? We can’t afford that! By the way, did we get approval on our annual $750 billion military budget?”
Man.. For anything space related,the 2020's are sounding awesome.
Yep, and it will get even better with future-generation instruments!
Yesss
You are assuming the jw telescope actually yes launched in the '20s LOL!! I would not bet my life on it. But yes over all things are looking cool. Space is awesome. I am just getting back into exploring and photographing, after a long time away.
Still have my trusty celestron C-8 from 1978
Yeah, we are literally at the beginning of the Expanse!!!
Elon Musk will do extraordinary things next decade.
Next telescope will be called the Overwhelmingly Large Telescope. The next one will be called Oh my God what a huge telescope! The next one will be called WTF telescope. The next one after that will be called the speechlessly large beyond large telescope. The next one will be called I can see aliens eating breakfast with my indescribably unfathomably large telescope!
Just kidding. This is some remarkable technology to build something of this size and capability. How do they even design stuff this complex?
So that's the OWL, OMGWHT, WTFT, SLBLT, ICSAEBWMIULT. I'd support those!
@@LaunchPadAstronomy Like your spirit mate!
Bloody Large Telescope should be the next one
Or ..
Oh my god i cant believe it is it real this is amazing telescope
srinitaaigaura ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!!!
If you built a Basically Large Telescope and put it on a hill in the small town of Rye, East Sussex, England, you could possibly have the most famously named telescope of all time, you would have... a " BLT on Rye " !!!!
C l e v e r!!!
that is too too funny!! Thanks for sharing that nugget!!! There is a "Rye" Arizona which is a CDP "census designated place as it has a population of 77!! THANKS AGAIN!!!
I may make them a proposition!!!
These names are fantastic
Can't wait for this one and the James Webb
Same but they keep delaying it for more money
Eric Chrisman Not ture Eric. it’s cutting edge and very difficult.
It's gonna be a long, I mean very long wait.
I predict this one will be.operational before James Webb.
@Donald Kasper Stars rotate around their galaxy. The galaxies move. Just like Andromeda is moving toward us. Light gains energy and shifts blue when moving toward us(gain in frequency) and red when moving away(loss in frequency). This is simple physics. We weren't even sure other Galaxies existed, until 1929 when Hubble published an article - using Cepheid variable stars to measure distance - that showed Andromeda was not in the Milky Way, but another Galaxy.
I had no idea ground based telescopes could have systems to counteract the atmosphere's turbulence. Pretty interesting stuff, and exciting to think about what discoveries the near future holds!
Another amazing, very informative video. And all metric ☺👍. Thank you, Chris!
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it, Dan!
16 times the detail ,, yea i've heard that before
76 telescope
16x the disappointment
I love your content. Please continue to produce videos. Thank you.
Thanks Shay, I appreciate it.
Thank you Christian.very nice, amazing video..Please continue to produce videos..
Thank you, Ali I really appreciate it!
Im waiting for the MBTY telescope
Otherwise known as
"mines- bigger- than- yours"
Based on the name, that will be china made ✌️
🔴 Will Starlink ruin the night skies for these telescopes? Take a look here: ruclips.net/video/soTqc1Y_qU8/видео.html
Launch Pad Astronomy How will it compare to the James Web Space Telescope?
In the first 15 seconds of your narration, your voice sounded like you were seeing "stars". And not the ones in the sky either.
And here I am debating between 80mm and 100mm for my next scope lmao
Sweet video Christian!! Glad im subscribed. Stay Aware and prepared:)
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the feedback!
Very informative video! :D
Thanks! Now get back to modding Owen Video's livestream :)
I can do both! :D
I'm not worthy...
"that isn't my final form yet"
- telescope
Well done! Thank you for that info. I will keep looking up.
Thanks, and very glad you enjoyed the video!
What an amazing telescope! It would gather a bit more light than my 4.5” telescope. I think about 123,000 times as much but my math could be off!
I wonder how well this scope will handle all the hundreds (soon to be thousands) of Space X satellites flying overhead?
What elevation is the mountain this scope will rest upon?
Thanks for a great video
starlink is an infection. This madness must stop.
Put it on the Moon it'll be fun!
cerverg lmao
No light polution, different atmosphere. That's maybe revolutionary idea!
Good idea but too much expensive, time, and risky (no atmosphere on the moon to protect it from asteroids,...).
Aw man it sucks that they had to lower the size due to budget... Just divert a few billion from the US defense budget and bam! 100m telescope! Such a shame we're being held back as a species by such petty things.
Not sure US military budget has anything to do with ESO but yeah, cut back on something!
well Bevus, it will be the European Snowflakes duty to cry over this, not any thing to do with the USA.
Don’t worry, they will make it one day. This is already much larger than previous ones, so it’s ”big enough”, it’s like getting one smaller and one bigger chocolate bars instead of just one large.
stop wasting billions on aircraft carriers that are sitting ducks now for the new hypervelocity Russian missiles
@@gentil77 This went from 'Looking at the stars' to 'Blowing up aircraft carriers' very quickly.
Hope we can get a closer look of Oumuamua! Must be top priority!
Why, it's travelling away from us at speed.
Thanks Launch Pad. I was referring to deep field and extra deep field imaging. Hubble would spend weeks for its exposures. How will these Very Large Telescopes duplicate such ambitious exposures?
I'm not certain, but my guess is that these telescopes wouldn't be well-suited to those types of long-duration imaging because of the dynamic atmosphere. Adaptive optics will help in the near-IR, but it would still need to be a cloudless, steady night for several nights. So yes, it might be doable but could they justify that much time for an uncertain payoff?
Well for one thing, where Hubble is, it is always night time. Deep field was days of exposure. Of course stacking is always an option and you can add more and more data in the future. Amateurs are are accumulating many hours of data, over years.
Should have made it bigger
Well, it'll still be extremely large :)
But the OWL - Overwhelmingly Large (telescope) is a rather clever and catchy name. Well, perhaps after they finish the ELT they can come back to the idea of an even bigger telescope and recycle the name.
I hope so, too 👍
Running out of those perfect mountain tops
man i cant wait for the future! this is going to be awesome
When I heard how this telescope corrects atmospheric turbulence I O-faced.
"16 times the detail as Fallou... Ehm Hubble "
Very large telescope, extremely large telescope, and overwhelmingly large telescope. Good names. Flat frames on these things have to be fun
I don't think anybody picked up on the 42 is the answer to the ultimate question joke
Yes, I did!!! Goodbye and thanks for all the fish 😀
Are you serious?
Da duh!!! Of course we did. That is what brought us to watch the video.
Almost everyone did, get over-yourself...Some of us read that before you were born.
Astronomers are very literal when naming telescopes.
Really professionally made content! Keep it up :)
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it!
Chile concentrará pronto la mayor capacidad instalada de observación del mundo ... bien por Chie y la astronomía
Yeah sure
Grande Chile!
Decades ago I use to wonder why they didn't put enough emphasis on advanced telescopes terrestrial and in outer space instead of so much in the other areas of astronauts etc. Maybe I'm wrong as the technology wasn't advanced enough... yet the could've focused on that as Hubble was doing so well, teaching us more about the universe than anything since Galileo is what I read.
FASCINATING!!!!!!! Let's get going!!!
I've been hanging out for this and other telescopes in the Atacama desert!! The JWST is amazing but there's a Milli Vanilli component (a duo that in the late 80's was busted for lip sinking in their concerts ( you know inserting data that isn't really there) in infrared because the there's NO color to be had!!
Wow, thought the Magellan Teleskop with 25meter is huge, but this is stunning!!! Great Job!
Thanks!
Can’t wait to see the images of the finished product! Should be spectacular! Bring it!
They'll be spectacularly made up.
Very interesting video. Thanks! I really hope we'll be able to map an exoplanet in my lifetime.
Imagine in the future seeing a picture on a newspaper front page of an
earthlike planet, with oceans, clouds, polar caps, continents, and patches of green indicating signs of life.
42 meter mirror would have been cool! Could have been named TOWL = Telescope OverWhelmingly Large :-)
And it would have found the ultimate answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe, and Everything!
Response to: Can the E-ELT be upgraded to 42m diameter? Thanks
This channel is fantastic ...
Thanks!
6:02 ok this sounds very cool! Can't wait to see what we learn from this new scope :)
Next one will have to be called the F.E.T. presumably
Human innovation is amazing.
These videos make me happy so many countries coming together for such an insane space endeavor.
That mirror technology is HUUUGE to correct for earths atmosphere.
These pictures are gonna be SOOOOOOO sick. I can't wait.
It's good to know that when the Oragmi telescope fails (Otherwise known as the James Webb) there will be a back-up ready to step in!
Apparently the engineers are letting their kids name the telescopes, how would the next be called?: The "Humongously Bigger than Godzilla telescope"
Faster Than James Webb
3:49 not gonna lie, these dudes kinda look like Legos 🤣
Just revisiting this post. QUESTION: Orbiting telescopes are stabilized to be able to take long time-exposures. How can an earthbound scope "lock" long enough to gain a sufficient exposure?
Ground based telescopes are mounted to counter rotate against the sky’s apparent rotation, so it can remain locked on target for as long as it’s above the horizon.
Now try attaching a FLIR CAMERA to this huge telescope and let's see what we ALL have been missing on the moon in plain sight on the light side of the moon!?
If I ever win the lottery I want to get at least a 1 metre telescope. I have dreamed of this since I got my first 8" telescope in '78
Absolutely beautiful small documentary. Great job.
Your channel is criminally under subscribed! I hope luck favor you soon.
Thanks for the pleasure of making such informative videos❤
Just saw you over on Fraser Cains Channel so I popped over and just watched your video. I have what may be a dumb question but how do they keep such large telescopes clean? Whether its just dust settling on the mirrors or bug and bird droppings?
Thanks for dropping by! Yeah, that's an important question. When it comes to segmented mirrors like ELT, GMT, Keck, etc., individual segments are removed for cleaning and replaced with a spare. In ELT's case, one will be removed for cleaning every day. Also, the dome is air-conditioned during the day to keep the dust down.
Man, can you imagine the resolution of the OWL had it not been cancelled?
You could probably be able to resolve the stuff the Apollo astronauts left on the moon with such a large aperture.
OWL was ambitious, though I was surprised to learn it actually wouldn't have resolved the Apollo landing site. I believe you need a 200 meter aperture for that. So, a super OWL? :)
@@LaunchPadAstronomy I thought a 100 m aperture could resolve up to 0.001 arcsec which ought to be just enough to resolve the lunar landers. Guess we need an utterly overwhelmingly large telescope!
Do you think a hypothetical 10 km wide aperture can resolve Sagittarius A* on it's own?
@@srinitaaigaura No.
Sagittarius A* has an apparent size in the night sky of a marble... lying around on the Moon's surface, as seen from Earth. To have a shot at resolving it visually, you'd need an aperture measured in 1000's of kilometers, out there in space. And that's obviously completely unrealistic, so as it stands - interferometry was the only way.
All that money spent for the future 2024. Then 2020 comes along and wrecks the viewing with STARLINK.
I'm not enthused by Starlink, but they're trying to figure out a workaround: ruclips.net/video/soTqc1Y_qU8/видео.html
A big 10" reflector Dobson shows so so much.
Thank goodness Europeans still support the sciences. The USA has abandoned them in favour of conspiracy theories and paranoia.
Sad but true.
Believe me, we still have those in Europe, but nothing like as strongly as in the USA!
They can't ever name something: "The Biggest Telescope" , mor like : "The Biggest Telescope So Far .. , Hold My Beer.."
I want this telescope to broadcast "live streaming" as soon as possible. No CGI at all ...
Super Super video I love it thanks... great information great work ...
Thank you!
Thanks. Informative. Go on.
I hope they never run out of acronyms.
Stunning. A tribute to humanity. Science continually probing for answers. Makes a dusty old Bible and Koran look foolish.
I always wondered whether which takes less time: to design the telescope, or for the committee to choose a cheeky backronym that corresponds to an actual word.
Next big telescope will be called "Damn"
Suggestion for future telescope names:
BAT -- Big Ass Telescope
BTYT -- Bigger Than Your Telescope
TOBS -- Telescope of Big Size (this one is French)
RLT -- Rather Large Telescope (probably British)
BATMAN -- Big Ass Telescope Matrix Array Network
This telescope site is on my bucket list ;)
Outstanding video and impressive what humans can do!
What will be called the next? ultra super dupper mega big huge telescope? lol
better get a trademark on that so you can make some money on it when they come to you to use the name lol
Even a telescope that large still wont find my father
Makin me hungry for a BLT
Must be fun to the person operating telescope and looking at the sky once its completed
Someday holographical mirrors will replace physical mirrors. Imagine a mirror one mile in diameter and adjustments with high precision.
I would like to see a telescope that pay's my bills, been out of work along time now
So exciting!!! Thank you for this content!
jordan cox thank you so much. And I agree, it is exciting!
Launch Pad Astronomy I'm going back to school for astrophysics in two years so this is just wonderful timing.
The entire planet has aperture fever. Outstanding!
We need another Hubble type telescope. I'm not talking about a JW scope. A Hubble 2.0 with a larger lighter mirror like 2.5 times the size of the old Hubble. They should wait a few decades so that designers can take advantage of new technologies which are not yet developed. You can't beat space for viewing advantages.
Well have I got news for you, its called LUVOIR and depending on what design NASA goes with, it will have an apeture of either 8 metres or 15 metres
lets hope for the continual and growth of stability of goverments of chile and other nation states
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*How does this ELT Earth telescope compare to the James Webb space telescope?*
I understand it's six times stronger, but it's going through our cloudy atmosphere.
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Let in answering, but James Webb is primarily oriented towards the infrared. It's for seeing very far out, where the light has been red shifted heavily by the time it gets to us. Earth based telescopes can't really see in that spectrum because there's way too much heat pollution down here.
@@deanroddey2881 The ELT camera is designed to reach near IR, 2.4 microns
the ELT site has about 10 months of clear sky.
I remember when Mt. Palomar was the largest optical observatory in the world. I feel old now.
The problem with land based telescopes will be the amount of satellites interfering with the view
No mention of LSST? I'm very excited about that telescope, too. It is going to give us a mind-boggling body of information about the whole sky.
I got you ;) ruclips.net/video/JIOTprEwqhU/видео.html
Can't wait for the "Scary large hugh double big super size smack me around and call me later telescope." That will be the one.
Only 4 years to go. Thanks neighbor !
Will we be able to see a fly on the moon? Cockroach? Frog? Seriously could a car be resolved ?
No. It turns out that you'd need a telescope with an aperture of ~60 m to resolve a car at optical wavelengths, though likely larger to compensate for atmospheric effects. Perhaps someday though!
Going to need a pair of Leibheer LR 13000 super cranes just to lift the sub assemblies for this oil platform sized observatory. Better call Sarens or Mammoet for all the super lifting and heavy moves. Big structures demand super sized construction hardware
Now is the best time to be an astronomer.
6:17 "... a major step forward in answering the question of are we alone and if life can exist beyond Earth." - like if detecting water and organic molecules says anything about life that is not based on those assumptions...
The thing is, life is just chemistry. And chemistry needs a liquid solvent for reactions to happen. And water happens to be the only one that's liquid in a non-extreme temperature and doesn't happen to be corrosive or else.
Щась северный полюс планеты меняется можно видеть новые Планет или что-то новое узнать
This is the camera in the all new Galaxy Samsung note 11!.... Wow can't wait!
I want one of these in my back yard.
WE... Have never been alone.
It’s 2020 and the only thing we landed on other than the earth happened 51 years ago???? That’s kinda sad if you ask me
We've landed plenty of things on other planets, just not with humans on board ;)
@@AGH331 and the a
steroid Eros and the comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko
Me: *cries in 127mm telescope under heavy air and light polluted sky*
*Cries in my $10 apexel 18x telephoto lens*
Don't be such a spoiled brat who wants everything.
@@newjam9110 what spoilt brat, I earn my own money and buy my stuff. It's just a joke meant to be funny. Pollution too much over here.
very good now it will be easier to find the flag and the apollo modules in the moon, I'm excited when that's going to happen☺️
I'm amazed that we can make mirrors that size will specs that're that tight, truely impressive
+Landon Roy agreed!