Using a Squeezebox Radio Without Logitech
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- sfred video #231
This is a very quickly filmed video showing how you can set up your own Logitech Media Server to replace the now gone mysqueezebox.com server provided by Logitech. It's fairly straightforward, but does take you back to an earlier era of network music.
You will need to get the server software from the LMS Community page: lms-community....
Edited to add:
Here's a link from the above page that links to the piCorePlayer project. I haven't done it myself, but it looks pretty simple: lms-community....
and again, to add this comment I've received from a member of the LMS team for more context:
"@sfred I am one of many people working on the LMS Community project. As you mentioned things have been moving quite fast with Logitech's exit.
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The LMS is now the Lyrion Music Server - so no longer named the Logitech Media Server but otherwise the same. From version 9 it will be named the Lyrion Music Server.
The documentation site is now on url lyrion(dot)org - I have to spell it out like that, else YT's robots remove comments. That has downloads, howto guides etc. The legacy wiki still there, but no longer updated; however most essential info already migrated across.
For people with problems which cannot be solved via the regular documentation then they should go to the forums which are at forums (dot)slimdevices(dot)com.
I will try and respond to the other questions which your video raised by responding to individual questions. One frequent one is people complaining that their Squeezebox Radios no longer connect via Wifi. That is a known issue with SB Radios with original firmware. Happily there is now a fix. If an SB Radio connects to the latest LMS it should be offfered an upgrade to the latest firmware which fixes those wifi issues; users may need to temporarily connect their SB Radio via a wired connection direct to their router to do that upgrade.
One thing I have learned is that the LMS Community must make more videos to explain how to do stuff. It is a great ecosystem with really talented support people - so need to get the message out."
sfred You are a life saver. I have four squeezebox radios. Have loved them, for years listening to classical music from around the world. Some favorites include WRCJ Detroit, Classique Radio France, and AZPM Tucson. Without your clear directions I would have been lost. In fact I have another internet radio on order (Grace Link Internet Radio). At this point I can return it to Amazon. Keeping my fingers crossed that the Squeezeboxes will stay connected. Listening to your voice I am thinking you are Canadian. Thank You so much for posting this video.
Regards
omg i was getting so desperate...thank you for this video! my kitchen is "alive" again and can listen all my stations
My kitchen is alive again too! haha Pat Metheny during breakfast and Scott Henderson at dinner.
Thanks for the guide. But I wish there was a way to do it without requiring an always-on PC or other hardware on your network for running media server. For example, you would have to pay for a new raspberry pi, and then keep it maintained with OS updates. I wish there was an applet or some other squeezebox firmware that could communicate with and stream the internet radio stations directly.
Thankfully I stumbled upon your video while doing some research on how to revive my SqueezeBox radio. It's a shame that Logitech has shut down their servers on March 2024. I had to set up a Proxmox VM running Debian 12 ( Bookworm ) on a fixed IP address, and switched library to my VM's fixed IP address. Now it's back in business.
Thanks for this, it’s obviously very timely. I agree that it’s a fine piece of hardware not yet ready for the closet of superseded electronics…. And it’s a great excuse to get into learning about Raspberry Pi!
Aha...got mine to work. Thanks for putting up this video !
I was really ticked off when I couldn't figure out why all my radios couldn't access the Squeezebox server.
Hi
How did you connect more than one radio/
were you able to connect more than one radio ? how you did it. I Was successful with one unit, Can tou hekp?
Thank you, I got mine working. :) Now listening to local radio 97.3 The Fan. I plan to look for my other online stations next
I would not have known about the Lyrion project without you. Thank you, @sfred!! I've never owned a Squeezebox product, but I've been a happy LMS user for almost a decade. Definitely want to support this new incarnation of it!
This video is awesome! Thank you! Setting up my local server now. (I hope) I have three of these amazing radios and have loved them for many years. Just need to host my own Pandora connection I guess to get back to the jazz.
How do you do that? I also had Pandora on Mile Davis all the time, but can't figure out how to get the app back. Now with my server it's only radio stations.
Were you able to connect more than one radio? Using the IP provided by the local server can only connect one radio to the same IP. Am i not doing something right ?
Heartfelt Thanks So Much, you got me back up and running again with my Logitech squeezebox radio....back to life ....best Wishes
Thanks for doing this video. It is extremely helpful. If you see any how to's for setting up the raspberry pi with a dedicated server for LMS please link them in the description. I'm going to try that route. Thanks again.
Here's the link to picore player. I haven't had to use this myself, but it does look easy enough: lms-community.github.io/players-and-controllers/picoreplayer/
#Squeezebox Radio
Hello, I used your help, I did the same step by step, except that in the Wind system... I used version 32 Bit, but I have a 64 Bit system.
Therefore, it is an alternative to our receivers. I have the same receiver as in your case, i.e. "#Squeezebox Radio"
I reset it to factory settings and connected it to the server on my laptop.
Now my locomotive has started and I can also control it from my laptop, as well as from the remote control and manually.
So I recommend this material to everyone
Ty for your info. I believe most viewer are interested in the ADVANCED settings in LMS: you explain them here: [11:15]
Is it possible to use a smartphone for LMS ?
Is the home server just for my own music library? Or can I still hear webradio on my Squeezebox using a raspberry pi as Home server?
Unfortunately on PC, Logitech Media Services HAS NO UI INTERFACE. You can see it running in System but there is NO front end UI as you are showing for Apple.
also my
Thank you, will do it via docker container on my home server.
hi did you manage to run this app ? I've installed LMS on docker on my synology DSM 6.0 , it is running in the container but now I've get stucked
no idea how to proceed to get my squeezebox radio running with this server , thanks for support
Hi, I can't seem to be able to download the LMS from Logitech because it requires information from the squeezebox server which obviously is down. Do you know anything about that and/or a way around it? More specifically I can download the LMS but can't install it because the connection the the mysqueezebox server is not possible.
Thanks for the video, it was very helpful!
sfred I can see your video is very thoughtful and has been helpful to many, but could you continue with more information on the nitty gritty we have to get past - all the information the physical Squeezebox is demanding be input? This is the 'Information' you blasted past at about 10:00 and what we are desperate for - IP settings. My physical Squeezebox wants SO many IP settings input I need to go back to college. You did not treat this. (IP address, Subnet mask, Gateway address and DNS address - all required by the physical Squeezebox.). Thanks!
Thanks for this, very helpful for the basics. I found it easy to connect the server and SB to my local music library but I'm still unsure how to add the internet radio stations I had on my SB. Presumably they have to be linked through the server, but how do you do that? On the SB you could search for stations and add them; is that possible using LMS?
I hate that i have to hear "THIS IS TUNEIN" everytime i click on a station..
Thank you sfred for your video, it was a lifesaver, but was able to connect only one radio. I own 3 of this outstanding hardware. Any recommendations, suggestion?
grace digital.
Finally got my 2 squeezebox radios going again. It's kind of a pain to have to keep the pc on all the time, though. But I guess better than having those radios turn into paperweights.
Thank you for this video ! Before I rush into finding a raspberry pi, does this mean your radio doesn't work if your computer is not running ?
Yes, which is the main reason why a raspberry pi might be a better choice for many people.
@@sfredGreat thank you
I believe that if you set the preset buttons on your radio they will still work when your computer is off. I'm not sure about this, though. A RaspberryPi would be well worth the effort. I recently switched to a NAS and it's working very well.
So how do you get the radio station to work and how to find them
Yea pay a good chunk of Money for this Logitech and then it becomes useless after Mysqueezebox Shuts Down.... What a Scam...
You can run it from a docker container on your nas, worked for my synology
can you please elaborate? I'm interested in doing this. Thanks
@@user-oi6gy1sp5w I wrote a detailed step by step instruction but youtube deleted it probably because I mentioned an example ip
The tldr:
Install docker package on synology
Search Logitech in the register
Install the lms thing
Edit the settings file so it doesn't run on bridge under network, but on host.
From there, on your squeezebox enter the ip 'number' as described in the video.
@@user-oi6gy1sp5w I've typed a guide twice now, but it was removed by RUclips twice as well I think? K
Yeah, dude don’t give some half @$$ suggestion. Refer a source on how it can be done
@@dgdave2673 I wrote a guide but youtube deleted it.
Awesome video. Thank you. Any idea how to correct the issue with the "blocked port 3483" message?
I’ve no idea.
Thank you for helping us non-tech dwebs. I sorta get the LMS thing, but how do I get my SB Radio to connect to my computer? Do i somehow hardwire it? I cannot get any kind of internet or wifi connection, just red wifi image.
You have to imput the IP number in your radio under advanced/networking/remote libraries/add new libraryand input the ip shown on the information tag of the server. good luck
thank you very much for the video, really very helpful and I was able to get the Sqeezebox working again, but I have a question. Now it works if my networked pc is on which the server is running, but what if I want to run it without it? I would just need it to connect to TuneIn Radio.
Great video. Thank you. Is there anyway to hack the Squeezebox to work on "Skytune" server(Eliminating need to set up your own personal network) which is what the CC Crane Internet radio works? I imagine there would be security issues that would crate issues for Skytune. Also, I understand we are putting our own personal networks at risk when we run Logitec Media Server. Is that correct? Thank you again for a great video.
I'm not aware of any of this kind of hack. I think it would be unlikely to work without having a server to transcode between the two. I'm not too worried about LMS. I've been running it since I first got my Squeezebox Radio.
First of all thanks for video. Using the recommended Control-click I was able to install the LMS server on my 2019 16inch Macbook Pro running on McOS Sonoma 14.4. The Server setting page can open but is dysfunctional since it disappears when I move right and click on Account or Advanced and further. Hence, I get stuck and cannot set and connect the Squeezebox
However, on my 2012 15 inch Macbook Pro running on Mojave 10.14 installation is easy and everything works for the server and I can connect, run and enjoy my Squeezebox again.
I would appreciate a video on how to se up a Raspberry Pi server to my Squeezebox
Thank you for this video! Sorry for a question…. But can I do something without computer, only with radio and internet?😔🤷♀️ because it was super comfortable when radio worked in the office
No, that’s not possible. You’ll need to run the server on something. A raspberry pi is probably the easiest solution.
@@sfred oh, it’s pity. Thank you for answering 🙌💫
How does one select a numeric IP Address ? I get exactly what you do at 14:00 - just 0, 1 and 2.
Got it sorted out. NOTHING is intuitive....If I tried to connect to that library it still wouldn't. But I started at HOME and selected MUSIC and my laptop's name was there! Now my Squeezebox isn't a paperweight anymore.
I have a squeezebox radio that looks like yours, I have downloaded the LMS server (LogitechMediaServer-8.5.2-win64.exe) but I can't find the correct IP address to connect to in the "Add New Library" any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks for this. I've 3 of these and had kind of given up on them recently. Great little radios.Any idea how to make a battery pack?
did you connect all 3 radios? I couldnt connect more than one on my mac
can my raspberry work simultaneously as a DNS server? I have pi-hole on it at the moment.
Thanks for this very timely video. I really miss using my 2 UE Smart radios. I tried to download the software on my Windows 10 laptop using the link you provided. However, my security software (McAfee) refuses to let me perform the download. I tried a few times, but keep getting the following message: "Malicious Download Detected Download Cancelled". Does anyone have a suggestion for a work around?
Good Video 👍 Saved my Squeezebox thank you so much
great help!! i have one problem: entering the Remote Library IP address. the squeezbox asks for a 000.000.000.000 format. my IP address is 000.000.0.00 format. any advice?
It will probably work if you put zeros in the empty digits of your IP address. EG 8 would be 008; 26 would be 026.
very helpful video, thank you very much.
Where from I need to get the IP address?
I have tried the LMS on my mac mini and it seems to work... Until the computer is dormant for a while, then I turn on the radio and it cannot attach to the mac mini. So I set the computer, to never shut down, and the problem still exists. Sadly my office computer and my garage radio are some distance apart, so I have to go up 2 flights of stairs to wobble the mouse, run back down the stairs to turn the radio on. Are others having this issue? I am I missing something?
Please ignore my previous comment, an update to the LMS has fixed the issue. I have a working radio again. Thank you for the video, very helpful.
was able to connect only one radio, any suggestions?
Will not let me download ‘unidentified developer’ tried many times over
Thx for the video. Webradio list is coming by default please ? I just received my dedicated raspberry pi.
Does anyone know if a Vonets WiFi bridge supports WiFi 6e?
I still have a Squeezebox radio, but the old WiFi chip built in no longer connects to my WiFi 6e router. It only works via Ethernet.
In the past, I heard that the Vonets was an affordable solution to the frequent WiFi disconnect problems many Squeezebox Radio owners with newer routers were having.
My layman’s understanding was that the Vonets device was a way of bypassing the internal WiFi chip on the Squeebox, and acting like a wired Ethernet connection.
But does the Vonets support WiFi 6e routers?
SBs only support 2,4GHz networks..
Does my PC have to run for this all day? If so, my box seems to be rubbish after 13 wonderful years.
FUCK YOU LOGITEC, hope this has an impact on your economy-ranking.
the video explains that you need to run the service on something that is always on (or at least always on when you want to use the squeezebox)
if you don't want to run your PC all day then a Raspberry Pi is a simple low power device that can be left on all day..Some home NAS devices can also run LMS as a plugin
A Raspberry Pi consumes around 2W when idle. Remember incandescent light bulbs … they were typically around 60W - so a Raspberry Pi on all day would use less energy than an old light bulb being on for 1 hour.
I tried to run LMS, on Ma OSX I installed the application, but when I run it on tab meny "it crashes" , installs on Windows 10 and won't start crash again , I don't understand, the point that Logitech did to us,..all this is doing now is a much easier option Bluetooth speaker in combination with any mobile phone, I am very disappointed with what Logitech did.
maybe you try on Linux.. works fine for me on Mint on a old Thinkpad
I uninstalled current LMS, and then installed an older version 7.x. It has a Control Panel, yay. Under Player it 'helpfully' says "If you own a Squeezebox or Transporter: Make sure that your player is plugged in and its networking settings are correct." OK this is not helpful when the whole point is I need to find out the IP settings to punch into the Squeezebox. Any ideas, anyone?
You can try LMS 9 nightly.. these are development builds, but they run here without any issues on a Macbook and a Raspi 👍
I have found a Internet radio/wifi radio, it’s not Logitech, it’s another brand but I want to ask if someone still use these radios in 2024 when you have all the free phone apps with the same million stations and so on?
I need to test the instructions of the video but I know an elderly person was using this radio for raduos abroad and normally setting up and using apps on their smartphone is generally to much for them (i fully expect we will have the same issues when old enough with newer technologies). In similar content as here it mentionned that similar setups needed to have the computer on etc, which again is a step too far for many elderly people. So hardware worked very well after 10 years and it was really a shame and hassle to invest on an Echo dot , set it up, and find registration issues with some radios... Which in turn could present other issues to listen radios in the future... Consumerism and waste at its best, with risk to have to pay for monthly services in the future for owned hardware...
Saw your video. I am not that computer literate. I have had my Logitech ue radio for 12 years and was devastated when they shut off the servers in March. Can I pay you to direct me over the telephone to get mine back? Also, may need to buy one of those things called a Rasbery P.i. Elliot Pine Grove, Cal
Funziona solo con il pc acceso?
Thx!
Will this get the radio stations back from all over the world on my squeezebox?
Deeply disappointed that your tech turned it off.
You lose the radio menu, even when you run LMS locally. You can however play all of your locally stored music. Radio stations can be added under favourites on your LMS which is a pain as you'll have to store their URLs. I really miss the radio menu which allowed you to browse per city radio stations. I guess we need to find an alternative database with all these stored URLs.
I should mention I am running an old LMS on a synology NAS. Maybe a newer version of LMS works better.
This is not correct unfortunately. LMS does not have any kind of Control Panel or UI on PC that I can see. The Service runs after installation but that is all. It sends you back to the old Logitech server, where everything crashes. Does anyone know how to hack things to get an actual UI / Control Panel up in PC?
What about spotify on this device? Is it cancelled as well?
I was able to install the spotty plugin, link it to my spotify account, and have it show up as an option in the Spotify app, but since I don't have a premium account (I'm an Apple Music user) I wasn't able to test it.
How do you install plugins? Please do another video showing. Thanks!
Rats, I don't see Pandora plug-in on my Windows setup. Any ideas how to get it?
Apparently not: community.pandora.com/t5/Community-Chat/Logitech-Announces-End-of-Pandora-Support-Feb-2024/m-p/146114
If you're an Apple user you could use Airplay to pipe it from your phone to the Squeezebox. The Shareplay2 plugin provides workable Airplay 2 support. I've recorded a video on using it that I'll have up later in the week.
Thanks for your quick reply.@@sfred I can't get to that link, but I got the idea.. I don't have anything Appley, so I hope I can try one of the other streamers to get my jazz fusion back in rotation. Thanks to you though, I got my favorite local radio stations back, and access to my whole music library.
Pandora is supported. New LMS plugin - Pyrrah - Daughter of Pandora.
It is a work in progress - for example no thumbs up/down yet but it works
@@paulwebsteruk Yes, it's true! Pyrrah is working great in my house on all three radios! So happy! Got all my fav Pandora stations back again.
so the ip is 7 letters instead of 12
help! pls
Thanks
buy the latest grace digital ones and you'll be ok!!!
Anyone know of a means for attempting this without IT knowledge?
Well, the instructions in this video are fairly easy. You might give it a try following the steps slowly one by one. You probably won't make anything worse. Maybe you can find some geeky teenager in your area to come help you?
Many Thanks for the video. But iam currently struggling to bring my IP Adress into the Squeezebox, how I can mark the dot after the 2 (192.168.2.xxx)? Many thanks again for this wonderful video and maybe addiotional help, regards Thomas
Put in 002. That should work.
@@sfred Mega, it works, I go crazy, squeezebox is alive!! Again many thanks to you! T.
What happened? i can't even connect my box to wifi..
Get your box in reach of your wifi..
Logitech just abandoned the squeezebox owners. I listen to streaming services (Spotify, SiriusXM, etc.). Guess my two units are now trash. Thanks.
No they aren't "trash"
you are commenting on a video that literally tells you how to get around the issue
@@Harani66 Exactly - and they abandoned after supporting it for 10 years after the product was stopped. They did good, Tiogator! Thank you, Logitech
@@Harani66 NO, they are trash. They use to be a portable internet radio that worked where ever you could get internet access. Now they have to be married to a server computer, that has software download that is always left turned on. This video is "how to apply a band aid to make your abandoned radio partially work".
For me, this may be too complicated. The question is, can I still listen to internet radio stations as before without the computer having to be on? Or is it only local stations like on a regular radio?
I don't think either will work without setting up a server.
It requires an Internet connection to play any radio. For now at least, it needs a local server on your home network. It is easy to setup.
@@paulwebsterukThank you for helping us non-tech dolts. I sorta get the LMS thing now but do not understand how my SB Radio connects to the LMS. Do I hard wire my SB Radio to the computer? Or will it somehow connect to my computer through some other means. I cannot get any wifi on my SB Radio now, just red wifi image.
I have the same problem, but in my case it’s because I have a newer WiFi 6e router which I don’t think is backward compatible with the old 2.4 Ghz WiFi chip installed in Squeezebox Radio. I can now only use the radio hardwired with an Ethernet connection.