A Conversation with Pastor Tim Keller about Hope in Times in Fear

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  • @TheNewYorker360
    @TheNewYorker360 3 года назад +3

    Tim Keller, on point as usual.
    I still remember that review ten years ago on Yelp of Redeemer Presbyterian Church. Nothing I've ever read or heard about Redeemer --- not even from many "Refugees from Redeemer" who have told me about their experiences, and how it took many years to recover from having gone there --- has ever been more accurate or cogent. It is a remarkable document. (Excerpts edited for brevity and clarity).
    1/17/2011
    I have been to Redeemer West Side and East side services. I still go from time to time. I used to take part in several of the volunteer opportunities at Redeemer. First, I will start with the founding pastor, Tim Keller. Tim Keller's sermons are some of the most thought provoking you will ever hear in your life anywhere! He is also an author. I would go so far as to say that he is one of the great thinkers of our time. He is also a visionary in many ways. My husband and I regularly purchase and listen to his sermons.
    So why only 3 stars? Because a church is more than just a pastor.
    Now there is no perfect church. But there are some serious things lacking here:
    First of all, there is no prayer meeting or focus on corporate prayer for the entire church. The very basic part of the Christian faith that Jesus himself said with his own lips is found in Matthew 21:13. "It is written," He said to them, "'My house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it a den of robbers."
    Prayer is just talking to God, it doesn't require any special talent, skill or training. So the lack of prayer at this church is very alarming to me.
    And I haven't heard anyone speak of repentance at Redeemer --- ever. Again, I have listened to hundreds of sermons and been to at least a hundred services both on the West- and Eastside.
    The church ministries are called "ministries" but are run like any secular organization.
    Redeemer is run like a business, a well-oiled corporate machine, and not a church.
    The other 2 things which are cultural and not spiritual but are off-putting to me are:
    1. Most of the members and regular visitors to Redeemer are transplants, not New Yorkers, so the church is a large city church but run like a small town church where there are very few native New Yorkers. It seems most of the members are not established in the city and are just passing through.
    2. The other is that it seems the majority of the congregation are looking for a spouse, and very aggressively. When you walk in, the first thing people do is look at your hand for a ring, and then are bold enough to ask if it is a wedding ring. That experience is not unique to me, but to all of the guests I bring here.
    In addition, in any volunteer group I have been to, the small talk from both men and women centered around trying to find a spouse. Then the few married people were usually complaining about their marriages. The pastor knows about this and does see it as a problem, because he addresses it in his sermons.
    But people don't seem to listen. It is like they are all living in 1950's rural America.
    One other major problem I have with Redeemer is that it is mostly White and Asian. I believe the reason is that the congregation ---- and this is not the pastoral team's fault --- seems to be focused on their careers and making money, and not on God at all. God is there to bless their agendas; this is how they seem to operate.
    I believe this is true for a few reasons. One, the culture of the church and focus of the congregation seems to be on Whites and Asians who make good money and have high-end careers, rather than on God. A huge basic tenet of the Christian faith is death to self. But at Redeemer, when you hear testimonies approved by the pastoral staff, they usually start with the person's professional credentials. I do not see any death to self there, but actually the opposite: It's "Look at what I can do for God because of my high income and education." It is not wrong to have a high income or education as a Christian. But the focus (at Redeemer) is wrong.
    So for these reasons, I think the church is best for those who are not Christians yet, but are seekers of God, or for those established in the faith already. It is not good in my opinion for the average believer looking for a home church.
    But by all means, purchase Tim Keller's sermons, and do something that the congregation at Redeemer fails to do: Learn from his sermons.
    end

  • @bobtaylor170
    @bobtaylor170 3 года назад +9

    Tim, I've known you were sick, have wondered about you, have made my groanings for you. In the last three days or so, I must have watched a dozen of your videos. They're a tremendous blessing to me.

    • @pastorstevefurtic364
      @pastorstevefurtic364 3 года назад

      God bless you beloved,I don't know you in person but God know you well, children suffering from
      (Leukemian).
      Lord minister to me in a revelation when I was praying concerning things about you, I saw blessing concerning you but the wicked spirit monitoring you and with motive to destroy your destiny are fighting you,
      But as I speak to you now her time is up,the motherless babies orphanage home needs your financial help to tackle the problem of leukemia for the children Suffering from it lord reveal to me and instruct you to sow a seed to motherless babies who is suffering from (Leukemia)(saviour motherless foundation) located in Nigeria before 2days with faith, as I join you in prayer
      My heavenly father will bless you as you sow a seed to these orphanages children today, you will testify to the glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him, Proverb (3: 27,21: 26: 22: 9 ), Deu 28: 1 '5
      Contact the MD of the orphanage Foundation on WhatsApp No +2348137411949 Or Email: (saviourfoundation96@gmail.com) send your donation to them God bless you.,,,,...,,..,,...

  • @martarico186
    @martarico186 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for such godly conversation about our God given humanity..... I pray for you Tim constantly ..... God's peace over you and your loved ones....

  • @sandyphelps8684
    @sandyphelps8684 3 года назад

    This interview has completely restored my faith in God and Christianity. I could not understand what was happening to my fellow Christian and why we were on opposite sides when we had always walked together. I have opened my mind and have new hope in understanding the doctrine I have always been so fixed on, had become my god. Life itself has taught me that it wasn't the way I believed it to be. I will never be able to walk on the same path as all those I have walked with, but I love God again, and a new adventure awaits me, with a new and fuller understanding. Thank you.

  • @oneleggedturkey
    @oneleggedturkey 3 года назад +3

    Wow, this was very good to hear. Especially Tim's advice at the end. Thank you for sharing this. I appreciated how you and Tim addressed people having doubt, not over the resurrection, but doubt over the possibility of conversion. I have been struggling with what to do if I believe all of what the Bible says, but in the context of a church that ignores whatever is not culturally acceptable to whatever enclave of culture it happens to inhabit. If Jesus raised from the dead, it really will be alright. Nobody knows exactly how it will be alright, but it will be made right. I also thought it was sweet to hear how, in this time of grief and mortality, Tim has started referring to his wife and himself as a single person more and more. They really love each other.

  • @BobWangwenyi23
    @BobWangwenyi23 3 года назад +1

    the last part is so powerful! I pray and hope that we can have Tim Keller for many more years here on earth.

    • @pastorstevefurtic364
      @pastorstevefurtic364 3 года назад +1

      God bless you beloved,I don't know you in person but God know you well, children suffering from
      (Leukemian).
      Lord minister to me in a revelation when I was praying concerning things about you, I saw blessing concerning you but the wicked spirit monitoring you and with motive to destroy your destiny are fighting you,
      But as I speak to you now her time is up,the motherless babies orphanage home needs your financial help to tackle the problem of leukemia for the children Suffering from it lord reveal to me and instruct you to sow a seed to motherless babies who is suffering from (Leukemia)(saviour motherless foundation) located in Nigeria before 2days with faith, as I join you in prayer
      My heavenly father will bless you as you sow a seed to these orphanages children today, you will testify to the glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him, Proverb (3: 27,21: 26: 22: 9 ), Deu 28: 1 '5
      Contact the MD of the orphanage Foundation on WhatsApp No +2348137411949 Or Email: (saviourfoundation96@gmail.com) send your donation to them God bless you.,,,,...,,..,,..,.

  • @josephporter3244
    @josephporter3244 3 года назад +5

    “Trusting institutions”, it’s funny that Dr. Moore mentioned this, especially in an interview with Tim Keller. I’ve learned over the past year or two just how flimsy many evangelical elites are. On cultural issues, theological issues, and institutional issues, many of these men proved that they fear bucking against the popular, secular thought. It was tragic to watch them get irate when the world got irate, and remain silent regarding issues that the world says are off limits. I learned a lot.

  • @Aquines
    @Aquines 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this interview I Love Tim Keller our group have used his book The reason for God so many times , just ordered his latest book ,God bless you Timothy ,Brian from Dublin Ireland

  • @M3MAX
    @M3MAX 3 года назад +4

    I can't say that I agree with these two.

  • @bobbafett7790
    @bobbafett7790 3 года назад

    great interview thanks gentlemen

  • @deborahfelts5231
    @deborahfelts5231 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, Dr. Moore!

  • @frederyckteixeira8870
    @frederyckteixeira8870 3 года назад +2

    Great interview. Thanks.

  • @schatzeemilien625
    @schatzeemilien625 3 года назад

    Russel this was a GREAT interview -- thank you for asking all the questions that are most helpful to listeners. With every question you asked I realized they were the root questions of a lot of surface level things going on. Thank you Pastor Tim Keller for your time and energy in imparting your wisdom!

  • @missesraisin
    @missesraisin 3 года назад +1

    Somedays I can roll from "I'm a moron, to I can do all things through Christ " lol. Is that balance? haha

  • @lestariabadi
    @lestariabadi 3 года назад

    Good to see you back.

  • @stuartknechtle9575
    @stuartknechtle9575 3 года назад +1

    So good.

  • @alexandranikolovskariley9593
    @alexandranikolovskariley9593 3 года назад

    Church attendance is down because here in California because of COVID we still are not allowed to operate at 100% capacity. It’s like at 25% soooo I wouldn’t look at this year’s numbers of church attendance. Why don’t they look at online church attendance??? That would make more sense

  • @georgefredericks2699
    @georgefredericks2699 3 года назад +4

    First, I pray that Dr. Keller is touched by God's healing hand. I never wish ill on anyone. Second, these two men are not preaching and teaching the biblical Gospel. They both promote a social Gospel. Tim Keller being Presbyterian, and Russell Moore being Southern Baptist. Great breadth of knowledge here, but very little depth in biblical doctrine.

  • @trustchristnotmyselfextran6298
    @trustchristnotmyselfextran6298 3 года назад

    Brother Moore, are you a calvinist?

  • @akadwriter
    @akadwriter 3 года назад +2

    Wolf.

  • @MereRamirez-tm9bb
    @MereRamirez-tm9bb Год назад

    🥺😭🤍

  • @bakhop
    @bakhop 3 года назад

    I deeply respect Dr. Keller, but when I hear him praise Calvin and Luther, which he must as a reformist Christian, I feel such regret for him. I wish someone could save him from what Chesterton called "the hell of the belief in predestination". This is not to disparage him at all as a Chritian, I have learned a lot from his sermons, but there are many false forms of Christianity and he is immersed in one of the most insidious ones. God certainly can use all these diverse paths, especially the ones that at least stick to the Creed, so I don't fear for his immortal soul, I just regret that God presented a full banquet and he settled for a few side dishes.

    • @avranju
      @avranju Год назад +1

      I wonder if there’s anyone who has tasted the full banquet. I suspect all of us settle for side dishes - perhaps different ones but side dishes nonetheless! Agree with what you said about the insidiousness of Calvinistic doctrine though.

  • @NicholasproclaimerofMessiah
    @NicholasproclaimerofMessiah 3 года назад +1

    Haha. "Leaked letter". This guy is shrewd as a dove and harmless as a viper. The Church has offered this man correction, and he has chosen paganism instead of Jesus Christ The Lord.

  • @leesmith6740
    @leesmith6740 3 года назад +1

    Hell was created to induce fear, would God create enteral hell for his own creation😂

  • @thequranisthespringofheart3529
    @thequranisthespringofheart3529 3 года назад +1

    The Bible preaches the Prophet Muhammad
    Prophethood was in the children of Israel, and they were the children of Jacob bin Ishaq bin Ibrahim
    Ibrahim has two famous sons, Ishmael and Ishaq
    The good news of the Prophet Muhammad was mentioned in the Bible in many places, but it was deleted and corrupted with the passage of time
    But what remains to prove this good news
    That the Lord commanded Abraham to slaughter Ishmael, not Isaac, as is found in the Bible where it came
    That God tested Abraham, saying to him: “Abraham!” And he said, "Here!" So he said: “Take your son, the one you love, to Isaac, and go to the land of Mary, and go up there with the throne.
    Genesis chapter twenty-second
    Focus on his saying (“Take your only son, whom you love, Ishaq,”
    When was Isaac the only son of Abraham
    Ishmael is 14 years older than Isaac ???
    This proves intentional misrepresentation
    And also from the good news that came in the Bible:
    Hajar preached what a woman did not preach before or after her
    The Bible states that the angel of God brought her the good news twice from God, through Ishmael, peace be upon him
    And that his descendants be a great nation
    See (Genesis 16: 1--22), (17: 17-21) and (21: 12-21).
    The good news came to Abraham, peace be upon him, repeatedly, by Ishmael, peace be upon him, and that his descendants cannot be counted nor counted.
    The nation of Ismail was not great and large in number except with the mission of Muhammad and the emergence of Islam. Because the Prophet is a descendant of Ismail
    And it was also mentioned in their book that God promised Abraham, peace be upon him, saying: (By your offspring, all nations of the earth shall be blessed.)
    Acts of the Apostles Chapter 3
    kama ja'at albashaarat li'iibrahim ealayh alslam mraraan , bi'iismaeil ealayh alslam , w 'ana naslah la yuead wala yuhsa
    falam takun 'ummt 'iismaeil eazimatan wakabirat aleadad 'iilaa bibaethat muhamad w zuhur al'iislam; li'ana alnabia min nasl 'iismaeil
    waja' fi kitabahum aydaan 'ana allah waead 'iibrahim ealayh alslam qaylaan ( binaslik tatabarak jmye 'umam al'ard )
    'aemal alrusul al'ashah 3
    The good news came to Abraham, peace be upon him, repeatedly, by Ishmael, peace be upon him, and that his descendants cannot be counted nor counted.
    The nation of Ismail was not great and large in number except with the mission of Muhammad and the emergence of Islam. Because the Prophet is a descendant of Ismail
    And it was also mentioned in their book that God promised Abraham, peace be upon him, saying: (By your offspring, all nations of the earth shall be blessed.)
    Acts of the Apostles Chapter 3
    So Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, came as a messenger from God to all nations, and this was never before him for anyone else
    And God said to Abraham, "I will make you a great nation."
    And this very last description was deserved by Ismail, peace be upon him, and Jacob did not deserve it in their book
    And the greatness became from Abraham to Ishmael and his descendants, as recognized by their book
    And the mention of Abraham did not spread in all nations except in Islam
    Because the Jews and Christians do not consider him a prophet, do not venerate him, and do not bless him
    Their book said that God said to him (3 And I will bless those who bless you, and he who curses you I curse him. And all tribes of the earth shall be blessed in you.)
    Genesis chapter 21
    Baraka settled from Abraham to the Muslims
    So they blessed him in every prayer, and neither the Jews nor the Christians in their prayers mentioned him with the blessing at all.
    As well as Moses came to preach the Prophet Muhammad has come
    22 For Moses said to the fathers: Indeed, a prophet like me will rise up for you the Lord your God from your brethren .. to Him you will hear in all that you accomplish. Acts of the Apostles Chapter 3
    Who are the brothers of the Children of Israel ??
    Brothers of the children of Israel are the children of Ishmael
    As well as from the good news that came to preach the Prophet Muhammad
    As in the book of Isaiah
    For, behold, the Lord of hosts takes away from Jerusalem and from Judah the bond and the pillar, every bond of bread, and every bond. The mighty and the man of war. The judge, the Prophet, the fortune teller, and the sheikh.
    Isaiah chapter 3
    The first of these good news in Isaiah is the withdrawal of prophecy from the children of Israel
    Then he says
    10 O my country and build my hand. What I heard from the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, I told you.
    11 inspiration from the standpoint of Duma:
    Isaiah chapter 21
    Where is Duma located ??
    Duma is a city located in Saudi Arabia, which is the country from which the Prophet Muhammad left, and it is now called Dumat al-Jandal, and it is the capital of Arar Governorate
    Then he says
    13 A serpent from the country of the Arabs: In the woods, in the countries of the Arabs, you will repel, O caravans of the Danes.
    Book of Isaiah chapter 21
    Here, after he preached the new revelation and said that it would be from the direction of the countries of Arabia, he said (in Al-Waer) that is, in the mountainous region
    The place from which the Prophet Muhammad left is located in a mountainous area
    Likewise, no prophet emerged from the Arab countries other than the Prophet Muhammad
    Then it completes
    16 For this is how the master said to me: “In the span of a year like the year of an employee, all the glory of Qidar perishes.
    What is the relationship of Kedar to the good news ???
    Kedar is a descendant of Ishmael and was the most famous man of Ishmael’s descendants, so he was mentioned in the Bible many times
    When the Prophet Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, came he annihilated the glory of Kedar and mentioned him because the Prophet Muhammed was higher than the glory of Kedar.
    He also says
    support, my choice with whom I pleased myself. I put my spirit on him, so he brings out the truth to the nations. 2 He does not shout, does not raise, and does not hear his voice on the street. 3 A bruised reed He does not break, but a dead filament He shall not quench. To safety brings out the truth. 4 He shall not eat or be broken, until the truth is placed on the earth, and the countries await his law.
    Isaiah Chapter 42
    Who is this servant who is supported by the Lord ??
    Certainly, this prophet is not from the children of Israel. He says in verse 1 (And the truth will go out to the nations))
    All prophets used to come to their people only
    Moses came to the Children of Israel only, and they called only the Children of Israel to worship God
    Likewise, Jesus was only sent to the House of Israel in particular
    And the story in the Gospel: When did the Canaanite woman come to him and her daughter was crazy, what did the Lord Jesus say to her ??
    24 Then he answered and said, “I was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” When is chapter 15
    Are you from the lost sheep of Israel ??
    Surely you are not one of the lost sheep of Israel
    If you read the biographies of all the prophets, you will find that they only invited their people to worship God
    As for the character of this prophet, his call is general to all nations
    And all the qualities he mentioned in the verses. 1.2.3.4 applies to the Prophet Muhammad
    As for the adjective in the fourth verse, it is an adjective that no one can deny
    When all his relatives stood against him, beat him and mocked him, he did not tire or break, rather he was getting stronger.
    Then he says: (And the countries are waiting for his law)
    That is, he will bring a new law other than the law of Moses
    The Prophet Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, came with a new law other than the law of Moses
    Then Isaiah continues
    11 Let the wilderness and its cities raise its voice, the house in which Qidar dwelt. Let the inhabitants of Sala sing. From the tops of the mountains to cheer. 12 to give glory to the Lord, and to announce his praise in the countries
    Then he talks about the homes that Kedar inhabited
    It is known that Kedar lived among the Arabs in the Arabian Peninsula
    But we focus on his saying (Let the inhabitants of Sele sing to sing from the tops of the mountains to shout. 12 Let the Lord give glory and testify of his praise)
    The strange thing is that the text did not confine itself to referring to Kedar bin Ismail, who is the grandfather of the Prophet Muhammad - may God bless him and grant him peace. Salaa is (Sila) and it is a mountain in the Bab al-Madinah al-Munawwarah, as its name is until now, and it is Sala in Hebrew
    After we learned that Salaa is a mountain located at the entrance to Medina (the city of the Messenger of God) to which the Prophet Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, immigrated from Mecca and settled there and was the center of his state
    Then he says
    1- Send the lamb of the ruler of the land from Sele to the wilderness to Mount Zion's daughter.
    Isaiah chapter 16
    We benefit from several things
    1. He described the ruler of Sala, the Prophet Muhammad, who described him as the ruler of the earth
    No one in the Bible is described as the ruler of the earth other than the ruler of Sala (the Prophet Muhammad).
    2 .. He preaches the conquest of Jerusalem by the Muslims
    3. If he had said (Send the ruler of the earth)
    The good news would have been invalidated, but he said (Send the lambs of the ruler of the earth)
    Because Jerusalem was not opened until after the death of the Prophet Muhammad, that is, at the time of Omar bin Al-Khattab in the year 637 AD

    • @thequranisthespringofheart3529
      @thequranisthespringofheart3529 3 года назад

      Did Christ preach the coming of a prophet after him ??👇👇👇
      15 «If you love me, keep my commandments, 16 I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever 17, the Spirit of truth, which is not world can accept, because it neither sees nor knows, and but you know Him because he dwells with you and will be in you.
      John chapter 14
      In the old editions (another Barclayt), Christ is the first Barclayt and the Prophet Muhammad is the second Barclayt
      And also
      26 “And when the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, which proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness. 27 And you shall bear witness also, because you are with Me from the beginning.
      John chapter 15
      And also
      13 As for when that comes, the spirit of truth will guide you to all truth, because he does not speak from himself, but by all of him. 14 He that glorifies me, because he takes from what I have and tells you.
      John chapter 16
      You will certainly say that the Spirit of Truth or Comforter is the meaning of the Holy Spirit
      Christ told about the spirit of truth that he would be among people, speak with them, guide them, inform them, and be with them forever
      But these things do not apply to the Holy Spirit
      The question remains.
      Who is this Arab prophet whom Isaiah the prophet preached and called Christ the Spirit of truth, called him also the Comforter, and heralded his coming ???
      Certainly, what Christ called the Spirit of Truth is what the Prophet Isaiah had preached before
      He is the Prophet Muhammad ...
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    • @VinylFlesh
      @VinylFlesh 3 года назад +4

      @@thequranisthespringofheart3529 No, it is the Holy Spirit. Not a man.

    • @LonestarEventPro
      @LonestarEventPro 3 года назад +5

      It does. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
      16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Fruit of muhammed? Murder, rape and incest. Hard pass.

    • @felixrivera4802
      @felixrivera4802 3 года назад +4

      Man praying for you
      What you believe is lies
      Jesus is the son of God
      Holy and righteous
      Hebrew 1 talks how he is the same nature and radiance of God the father and there Is no other excellent name above him

    • @mrtimo3822
      @mrtimo3822 3 года назад

      You on drugs?