Asetek pedals suck! I won't ever understand the hype. This overly stiff phase is bull and people fall for it. It's horrible for actual good trail braking. Also peolle seem to fill to mention real car like road cars or gt3 cars pedals are progressive. Meaning softer at first then get harder. It helps so much with trail braking progression. Tbh brake pedals should have some travel it shouldn't be a straight brick wall. People go oh I'm more consistent sure it may feel that way because you have less to work with but once you adapt to actual full range control over every single 1% of the braking it's game changing. We also aren't sitting in a gt3 car or an f1 car with insane g forces pushing us foward into the brakes which helps those stiffer brakes feel softer because our eventide body weight is transitioning foward helping tremendously. The only reason some promote asetek pedals is because they are sponsored and paid to. They are 2x as hard to use then a real car because again you have no force going into the brake it's all leg. It doesn't feel the same as people say. It's just uncomfortable and not natural. We are sim racing we should feel good and comfortable and have full control.
My VRS base is the best sim equipment i've ever bought. 3 years and i have had 0 problems and 0 regrets. arguably the most underated base on the market
I agree and I look forward as to when I get mine set up! I've been looking at this VRS closely for over a year now. And I landed the VRS pedals to switch out my Fanatec! These VRS pedals are superb! So I landed me a VRS base and a Ascher McLaren Artura Pro. Give me time. I'll get my shit together! LOL
Pedals are top3 and the wheelbase is also now after all of the updates. Its simucube level and shows what mige couod have been if people put more time into it. Something magical about that motor feel. Coming from a simagic ultimate lover.
It is important to mention that the customer service is excellent! I had to replace the brake load cell. They answered me super fast by email and didn't charge me anything (my fault). Shipping to Puerto Rico super fast (1week) considering that they send from afar. They have my respect
I jumped from a 5nm DD base to a 27nm base and remember the immediate wow factor. It didn’t make me any faster, but it completely changed the experience and made sim racing massively more fun. I only ever run it around 60% too, that seems like the sweet spot
Exactly this! It's being able to feel more of the car and thus be able to push harder than you would on a weaker wheel this building confidence and consistency.
You should never lower the wheelbase strength, mate. Keep it at 100% all the time and change the FFB strength from inside the game. If you lower the wheelbase strength, you cripple the dynamic range of the FFB, and you also get clipping. That's the reason wheelbases with 20-30 Nm exist. 👍
@@pulsefiend Yes, that's the way to do it. Let me give you an example. I have a Simucube 2 Pro. For Assetto Corsa, I keep the wheelbase at 100%, and then in the game, I set the gain at 40%. I adjust the in-game force feedback (ffb) for each car to suit my needs. For most cars, I set the ffb at 55 in the game. For iRacing, I keep the base at 100% and then adjust the max force for each car within the game. If you lower the power of the wheelbase, you lose the dynamic range of the FFB.
I landed a VRS wheel base unit and I just purchased the Ascher McLaren Artura Pro to run with my 5" Ascher dashboard! Right now I'm still running my GT-DD Fanatec with a CS 2.5 with added Podium paddles. But I added VRS Pedals and they are superb!! While I was researching the world over for a wheel base, one person told me he has both Simucube 2 Pro and a VRS and he said in his opinion he could blind fold me and he didn't think I'd be able to tell the difference. And that Ascher wheel I got is a new release and I went with the USB wired right cause I have a VRS, but Ascher included a mini USB cable cause it can also connect inside to run with a SC2 or Asetek. I'm gonna upgrade my system so I don't have it put together yet, but it's coming along and this VRS is very impressive in the box. It's gonna be very nice! To me it wasn't just about the price difference. I can run with a SC2 if I want. Maybe I'll still land one. But I really like the VRS custom Meanwell 400Wt power supply! Heavy duty cables that will work well with my desk set up as my ASR4 Chassis sits under it a bit. VRS Pedals also really lit me up once I learned to calibrate them cause I tend to break heavy, so I set my pedals up as such to conform with me. Not "me" having to learn to break lighter. One can learn such, but I had these muscle memory traits and it's adjusted nicely for me. That actually helped improve lap time.
yeah i got the brakes and i absolutely love them. braking feels amazing. it's easy to replicate specific thresholds like 50% or 75% or have the smoothest trailbraking kurves. i do feel that they hurt a bit on my feet when I drive in socks though so I wear 15 € swim shoes for from amazon and the 2-3mm rubber sole is absolutely enough. I also use the red spring and I played around with angels of the pads but that is just preference. As I said I absolutely love the brakes and I will keep them until they die.
Like you, the first thing I noticed about the VRs base was that it made SIM racing so much more fun. At first I just went with some suggested settings, but you’ll find that after awhile you will get more of a feel for what the controls can do for you and how each class of car needs its own settings. And each SIM has its own quirks too, so you will really enjoy how much you can get in tune with it soon. Looking forward to your next video after you’ve had it a while!
Most definitely it has brought a new enjoyment to the experience. Yep im sure I will tinker around some more after getting used to the current settings to try and improve the experience and pace some more!
You’re great at talking while driving, I’ve been driving the super formula lights at Fuji and I can’t imagine how I’d be able to have a full conversation without going off or spinning
The VRS throttle is the smoothest there is on the market, thanks to the unique rod-less design. But it's just too light for many people, and since the throttle load-cell is also very weak, you can't really put a stiffer spring either. Biggest issue of the pedals, IMO. If someone likes a light throttle, these are great.
Interesting that people feel it's too light. Iver never felt the need for a stiff throttle but each to their own. Will see how my experience progresses with them and my opinion may chnage
Yea, mine doesn't seem too light at all. What's a weak load cell? The top of my frame on my throttle I added a really nice bolt with washers and a airplane nut to keep the small square shaped of frame, the 1" piece that the spring connects to had a tiny bit of movement happening and I could hear it. A sort of kink sound when I 'd work the pedal so I placed a nice looking bolt up top of the frame as there are holes but nothing needed in VRS's opinion so I slightly snugged it , slightly.... and now there's no more play in that part the end of my throttle spring is connected to. The sound wasn't anything, but the actual fact in my opinion is I don't want friction or wear happening in that part considering how VRS designed it. I think the VRS pedals are very well to do!
Went from ClubSport v3's to the VRS DFP pedals and holy smokes I had no idea what I was missing out on for so long. I really believe in their approach to not having elastomers, especially after the testing I've seen done showing the inconsistency of elastomers. I have zero complaints on the DFP pedals, I'd absolutely buy them again if anything happened to mine. I recently upgraded from CSL DD to the CSDD, but the VRS wheelbase is my end game base eventually.
I got some simhound externally stitched gloves after upgrading to a 15nm base, because similarly found myself thinking it was a little more rough on my hands. (Who’d have thought!) And, coincidentally, just yesterday, I was actually just talking about how much more I ended up liking gloves than I’d expected. Especially so if I’m playing around with rally or drift. High recommendations from me, fully see why folks get em.
Happy for you man. I've had the wheelbase (and pedals) for over a year and have settled on these settings for iRacing. Feel free to ignore but thopught i'd share. Damping 10 Friction 6 Inertia & Spring 0 Smoothing Optimal (recommended because of iRacing 60hz ffb) Slew rate Performance VRS discord is a good place for info too.
Second comment, I hadn't finish the video yet. Regarding your point about wheel with dash: fully agree. If you're not in a formula position it's basically "you take off your eyes from the road too much". Plus you can only see it when you're on a straight. I went for a 5inch dashboard on Aliexpress for 200 Canadian Dollars and I couldn't be happier. Yes, it's partially in front of the monitor (i run a 49 uw like you), so whenm i'm not racing it's "in the way". BUT, it's basically sitting where any dash would be in any car on iRacing, so I'm super thrilled with that.
Yep agreed. A dash is something I will to get in the future for sure and will much better suited to the current position I'm seated in, also it will be considerably cheaper!!!
@@stuffeyy and if it breaks for whatever reason it's cheaper to replace too, rather than replacing the rim entirely or having the manufacturer service it.
If you want next level comfort with the VRS pedals, you should see if you can partner with HRS, which makes pedal face plates out of billet aluminum for the VRS pedals. They seem stupid expensive for a simple pedal plate but they feel amazing underfoot and keep me from slipping at all on the throttle in long stints. I thought it was silly at first, but they are now honestly my favorite thing on my whole rig!
Ayy lets go! Congrats landing that sponsor, was wondering the "who" you were in talks with when you were driving on your R5. Anyway just got my VRS pedals the other day and I was blown away with the initial feel. Will take some time to dial them in but so far its looking promising. Also have had a simucube base for awhile now and I could go up to 25NM but 17NM was the number for me. It's still a bit much sometimes but once I set each car to utilize the full range of ffb in game I keep it at that value and its a good gauge of track grip for when its hot or rainy. The force pretty much tells me how much I can push.
Thanks buddy 😊 yeah I think 70% is the sweet spot for me since I've done some more testing but limited to those vibrations atm running through the mic (the pains of creating content lol). I'm yet to try in the rain but that's a condition I'm intrigued to see how much better I will be in woth the extra detail.
You should never lower the wheelbase strength, mate. Keep it at 100% all the time and change the FFB strength from inside the game. If you lower the wheelbase strength, you cripple the dynamic range of the FFB, and you also get clipping. That's the reason wheelbases with 20-30 Nm exist. 👍
@@HDRGamingHub there are two schools of thought when it comes to this, one of which is what your saying. 100% base and in game most corners will only use like 20% ffb signal (or however heavy you like it) and you will almost never clip. However the downside is for people who use a heavy ffb when you hit a curb or a bump and it does get max ffb signal from the game you get a huge jolt which is rough at 25NM and if there are a lot of spots I have to hit curbs its going to suck. The other way to set it up is set the force in game to use 90%+ in most heavy corners and let it clip over curbs and hard hits, then you set your base to whatever you can handle. Neither way is bad as long as you're not clipping the game signal at peak force in corners, there are many variations to both methods but keep in mind very few are realistic as in sim we are looking for more info from the wheel than is typically there irl. Me personally I run 17NM with almost no filters which gives me a very raw detailed signal from the game to my wheel, and people I know who run full strength usually run a lot of filters to deal with the harshness of 25NM for when it does peak and there mid corner forces usually pan out to be close to what I run but usually less.
Happy you're enjoying this kit dude! Can't wait for the next stream with it. Part of me hopes that you do have a problem with it. Whilst being a brand partner will likely get you priority, seeing how they handle issues is super important to consumers.
Thanks Mike 👍🏻 I hope I don't but get your point! I have seen comments online and from others who I know have the equipment have reported good things about their customer service especially when compared to other companies
When I first installed my Invicta 27Nm base I accidentally drove 2 laps of Road America in the Super Formula on full force feedback. Genuinely scared for my safety during that! 15Nm is fine for me, and quickly resolved after realising my settings were different. 🤣
You should never lower the wheelbase strength, mate. Keep it at 100% all the time and change the FFB strength from inside the game. If you lower the wheelbase strength, you cripple the dynamic range of the FFB, and you also get clipping. That's the reason wheelbases with 20-30 Nm exist. 👍
I use `vivo barefoot primus-asana` shoes for racing they are just perfect. They keep the feel you have with just socks but prevent my toes from wrapping the pedal :)
@@GregoryShtevensh Right. I don't know what happened there. But the base and that mean well custom 400 watt power supply is customed designed with that Mige motor. The pedals rock! I ended up buying one of those Ascher 5" dashboards to run with that new Ascher Artura Pro McLaren Wheel. As far as a good deal goes ok.... but I bought mine cause I think it's easily as good as a SC2 or Asetek. I could have bought either one. I think VRS is underrated. But I agree with you, as I wonder who decided to run with that wheel design. Can't go wrong with Ascher.
Scott, is there a reason you aren't setting the wheelbase power to 100% and then turning the ffb down in the game? I thought that was the best practice so that your base has maximum overhead.
I was thinking to get the base + GT neo wheel,but now there is very good after for the vrs base and vrs formula wheel for £1180 and think to go this way.
Is this the buy once cry once wheelbase? I’m looking at upgrading my g29. Originally I was going to go with a moza r12 but if this is the only wheelbase I would ever need, might as well go for it.
@@reviewforthetube6485 I hope so. Im gonna still keep my GT-DD pro and my CS 2.5 wheel. And Fanatec pedals as that set up is great for an entry level and beyond. But I ended up running with a VRS. VRS pedals and Ascher wheel. I honestly fear that all of these components are about to become very hard to find into 2025. I hope I'm wrong.
@@reviewforthetube6485 I have a ASR 4 chassis out of Canada. The front of my chassis actually fits under this desk I didn't want to get rid of. Those extra longer cables that connect to the power supply will fit perfect around the desk and the power supply will sit on my EVS 4X12 speaker cab. It's a large guitar amp cab. Then on my desk I have two beautiful black speaker mounts on each side up high with two Mackie HR8 studio monitors for sound. But even besides the application circumstance here I must have spent about a year researching different options. Asetek, SC2 Pro or a VRS. After I looked and read and witnessed videos.... One guy even told me that he has both a SC2 Pro and a VRS and he said if he blind folded me and I tried both, he didn't think I'd be able to tell the difference. It wasn't just a money factor here. It appears that VRS is pretty custom too. Something about special specs or tunning of the Mige Motor in harmony with the custom Meanwell 400 watter power supply?! My Ascher wheel is the USB type and there's also a mini USB cable so I could attach the Ascher USB to a wireless if I ever wanted to go that route. Personally I like the USB cable connection concept myself. It all works anyway. I think too having the 5" Ascher dashboard separate as opposed to a pretty wheel with it all built in like an F1 style has been known to drop off and fail in a given USB as they are power hogs according to boosted Media on youtube. Only thing I need now is the QR application and I'll be ready to switch her out. I'm a NEWB, been hot lapping for two + years I guess. In all honesty I've never touched a SC2 Pro or an ASETEK. Their all superb. The VRS pedals were so enlightening and once I calibrated them to my bodies muscle memory it lit me up enough to consider that wheel base to go with it. My Fanatec GT-DD and wheel and V3 Fanatec pedals are still keepers! I'll store it nicely in the box as I fear this stuff could disappear in 2025 with what might be coming. Lets not take our toys for granted. "To be continued"
Are you thinking about switching the wheel deck plate for a front mount on your Next Level Racing rig? Or you're satisfied with that? Just out of curiosity. The pedals look beefy, didn't expect that.
@labnux so I have gone to the front mount adapter. A portion of it is still plate but you can see the red angles on the wheel cam attaching into the base
It's all preference but you want to be able to balance the pressure applied on the brake consistently. Having top soft a brake pedal can mean you apply the brake too harshly, can't maintain pressure I.e trail braking and this all results in lock ups, not being able to turn the car in correctly or overcompensating in braking too early. Try the stiffer spring/coil again and you will see a noticeable difference most likely
You prefer to have 55% base max force mate than the 100% base but adjust the force ingame/iracing?.... Man, I have VRS pedals and it was awesome. I ordered the VRS rim coz they are on sale. its like 50% euro discount from the launch of the rim as many simracers/reviewers said it is overpriced during the initial release or launch of the rim.
I've altered this outlook now. This was just an approach that I saw from other reviewers and used that as a template to go from. The rim I agree with, while it is a quality rim, it was too much for what is is at launch especially when comapred to competitors. I've had discussions with VRS and they told me upfront that they acknowledge this too.
@@stuffeyyyeah mate. Pedals is awesome compared to my Fanatec V3s pedals. I ordered the VRS rim compared to Cube controls Fcore since adding clutch to the latter will add some euros and I think VRS rim is more sturdy and more premium and neat looking.
I got VRS pedals after trying very hard to use Asetek Forte pedals for 2 years. Best decision I’ve made for my rig.
Are you a late as possible braker or more of a long trail braker?
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Asetek pedals suck! I won't ever understand the hype. This overly stiff phase is bull and people fall for it. It's horrible for actual good trail braking. Also peolle seem to fill to mention real car like road cars or gt3 cars pedals are progressive. Meaning softer at first then get harder. It helps so much with trail braking progression. Tbh brake pedals should have some travel it shouldn't be a straight brick wall. People go oh I'm more consistent sure it may feel that way because you have less to work with but once you adapt to actual full range control over every single 1% of the braking it's game changing.
We also aren't sitting in a gt3 car or an f1 car with insane g forces pushing us foward into the brakes which helps those stiffer brakes feel softer because our eventide body weight is transitioning foward helping tremendously. The only reason some promote asetek pedals is because they are sponsored and paid to. They are 2x as hard to use then a real car because again you have no force going into the brake it's all leg. It doesn't feel the same as people say. It's just uncomfortable and not natural. We are sim racing we should feel good and comfortable and have full control.
My VRS base is the best sim equipment i've ever bought. 3 years and i have had 0 problems and 0 regrets. arguably the most underated base on the market
Great to hear!
lol definitely not tons of bases last as long or longer 😂
@SIMRIG412 you know nothing
I agree and I look forward as to when I get mine set up! I've been looking at this VRS closely for over a year now. And I landed the VRS pedals to switch out my Fanatec! These VRS pedals are superb! So I landed me a VRS base and a Ascher McLaren Artura Pro. Give me time. I'll get my shit together! LOL
Pedals are top3 and the wheelbase is also now after all of the updates. Its simucube level and shows what mige couod have been if people put more time into it. Something magical about that motor feel. Coming from a simagic ultimate lover.
It is important to mention that the customer service is excellent! I had to replace the brake load cell. They answered me super fast by email and didn't charge me anything (my fault). Shipping to Puerto Rico super fast (1week) considering that they send from afar. They have my respect
I jumped from a 5nm DD base to a 27nm base and remember the immediate wow factor. It didn’t make me any faster, but it completely changed the experience and made sim racing massively more fun. I only ever run it around 60% too, that seems like the sweet spot
Exactly this! It's being able to feel more of the car and thus be able to push harder than you would on a weaker wheel this building confidence and consistency.
You should never lower the wheelbase strength, mate. Keep it at 100% all the time and change the FFB strength from inside the game. If you lower the wheelbase strength, you cripple the dynamic range of the FFB, and you also get clipping. That's the reason wheelbases with 20-30 Nm exist. 👍
That "real" factor.. That feeling of risk
@@HDRGamingHub So you would just turn down the force feedback 60%?
@@pulsefiend
Yes, that's the way to do it. Let me give you an example. I have a Simucube 2 Pro. For Assetto Corsa, I keep the wheelbase at 100%, and then in the game, I set the gain at 40%. I adjust the in-game force feedback (ffb) for each car to suit my needs. For most cars, I set the ffb at 55 in the game. For iRacing, I keep the base at 100% and then adjust the max force for each car within the game. If you lower the power of the wheelbase, you lose the dynamic range of the FFB.
Thanks for the shout out at 0:32 ;)
I landed a VRS wheel base unit and I just purchased the Ascher McLaren Artura Pro to run with my 5" Ascher dashboard! Right now I'm still running my GT-DD Fanatec with a CS 2.5 with added Podium paddles. But I added VRS Pedals and they are superb!! While I was researching the world over for a wheel base, one person told me he has both Simucube 2 Pro and a VRS and he said in his opinion he could blind fold me and he didn't think I'd be able to tell the difference. And that Ascher wheel I got is a new release and I went with the USB wired right cause I have a VRS, but Ascher included a mini USB cable cause it can also connect inside to run with a SC2 or Asetek. I'm gonna upgrade my system so I don't have it put together yet, but it's coming along and this VRS is very impressive in the box. It's gonna be very nice! To me it wasn't just about the price difference. I can run with a SC2 if I want. Maybe I'll still land one. But I really like the VRS custom Meanwell 400Wt power supply! Heavy duty cables that will work well with my desk set up as my ASR4 Chassis sits under it a bit. VRS Pedals also really lit me up once I learned to calibrate them cause I tend to break heavy, so I set my pedals up as such to conform with me. Not "me" having to learn to break lighter. One can learn such, but I had these muscle memory traits and it's adjusted nicely for me. That actually helped improve lap time.
yeah i got the brakes and i absolutely love them. braking feels amazing. it's easy to replicate specific thresholds like 50% or 75% or have the smoothest trailbraking kurves. i do feel that they hurt a bit on my feet when I drive in socks though so I wear 15 € swim shoes for from amazon and the 2-3mm rubber sole is absolutely enough.
I also use the red spring and I played around with angels of the pads but that is just preference.
As I said I absolutely love the brakes and I will keep them until they die.
Like you, the first thing I noticed about the VRs base was that it made SIM racing so much more fun. At first I just went with some suggested settings, but you’ll find that after awhile you will get more of a feel for what the controls can do for you and how each class of car needs its own settings. And each SIM has its own quirks too, so you will really enjoy how much you can get in tune with it soon. Looking forward to your next video after you’ve had it a while!
Most definitely it has brought a new enjoyment to the experience. Yep im sure I will tinker around some more after getting used to the current settings to try and improve the experience and pace some more!
You’re great at talking while driving, I’ve been driving the super formula lights at Fuji and I can’t imagine how I’d be able to have a full conversation without going off or spinning
Haha thanks mate. It is a definite skill for sure however if I am the same as most, if I wanna go real quick a bit less talking is required
The VRS throttle is the smoothest there is on the market, thanks to the unique rod-less design. But it's just too light for many people, and since the throttle load-cell is also very weak, you can't really put a stiffer spring either. Biggest issue of the pedals, IMO. If someone likes a light throttle, these are great.
Interesting that people feel it's too light. Iver never felt the need for a stiff throttle but each to their own. Will see how my experience progresses with them and my opinion may chnage
Yea, mine doesn't seem too light at all. What's a weak load cell? The top of my frame on my throttle I added a really nice bolt with washers and a airplane nut to keep the small square shaped of frame, the 1" piece that the spring connects to had a tiny bit of movement happening and I could hear it. A sort of kink sound when I 'd work the pedal so I placed a nice looking bolt up top of the frame as there are holes but nothing needed in VRS's opinion so I slightly snugged it , slightly.... and now there's no more play in that part the end of my throttle spring is connected to. The sound wasn't anything, but the actual fact in my opinion is I don't want friction or wear happening in that part considering how VRS designed it. I think the VRS pedals are very well to do!
Went from ClubSport v3's to the VRS DFP pedals and holy smokes I had no idea what I was missing out on for so long.
I really believe in their approach to not having elastomers, especially after the testing I've seen done showing the inconsistency of elastomers. I have zero complaints on the DFP pedals, I'd absolutely buy them again if anything happened to mine.
I recently upgraded from CSL DD to the CSDD, but the VRS wheelbase is my end game base eventually.
*Thank you for the great review, Stuffey* ❤❤
I got some simhound externally stitched gloves after upgrading to a 15nm base, because similarly found myself thinking it was a little more rough on my hands. (Who’d have thought!) And, coincidentally, just yesterday, I was actually just talking about how much more I ended up liking gloves than I’d expected. Especially so if I’m playing around with rally or drift. High recommendations from me, fully see why folks get em.
Happy for you man. I've had the wheelbase (and pedals) for over a year and have settled on these settings for iRacing. Feel free to ignore but thopught i'd share.
Damping 10
Friction 6
Inertia & Spring 0
Smoothing Optimal (recommended because of iRacing 60hz ffb)
Slew rate Performance
VRS discord is a good place for info too.
Thanks buddy 👍🏻 Appreciate the recommended settings.
damping kills the lively of the ffb imo. 0 damping 7 friction inertia 5 Optimal Performance is the best imo for iracing ;)
Always interesting to see how new equipment throws you off at first
Some travel with the brake helps 20x with trail braking tbh. So these pedals imo are so so good.
Second comment, I hadn't finish the video yet.
Regarding your point about wheel with dash: fully agree. If you're not in a formula position it's basically "you take off your eyes from the road too much". Plus you can only see it when you're on a straight.
I went for a 5inch dashboard on Aliexpress for 200 Canadian Dollars and I couldn't be happier. Yes, it's partially in front of the monitor (i run a 49 uw like you), so whenm i'm not racing it's "in the way". BUT, it's basically sitting where any dash would be in any car on iRacing, so I'm super thrilled with that.
Yep agreed. A dash is something I will to get in the future for sure and will much better suited to the current position I'm seated in, also it will be considerably cheaper!!!
@@stuffeyy and if it breaks for whatever reason it's cheaper to replace too, rather than replacing the rim entirely or having the manufacturer service it.
If you want next level comfort with the VRS pedals, you should see if you can partner with HRS, which makes pedal face plates out of billet aluminum for the VRS pedals. They seem stupid expensive for a simple pedal plate but they feel amazing underfoot and keep me from slipping at all on the throttle in long stints. I thought it was silly at first, but they are now honestly my favorite thing on my whole rig!
I second this. They are also great pairing with Simagic haptics, particularly on the brake.
I'll look into them 👍🏻 atm however the stock plates are super comfortable especially compared to the V3s
Ayy lets go! Congrats landing that sponsor, was wondering the "who" you were in talks with when you were driving on your R5. Anyway just got my VRS pedals the other day and I was blown away with the initial feel. Will take some time to dial them in but so far its looking promising. Also have had a simucube base for awhile now and I could go up to 25NM but 17NM was the number for me. It's still a bit much sometimes but once I set each car to utilize the full range of ffb in game I keep it at that value and its a good gauge of track grip for when its hot or rainy. The force pretty much tells me how much I can push.
Thanks buddy 😊 yeah I think 70% is the sweet spot for me since I've done some more testing but limited to those vibrations atm running through the mic (the pains of creating content lol). I'm yet to try in the rain but that's a condition I'm intrigued to see how much better I will be in woth the extra detail.
@@stuffeyy yeah the vibrations are just a thing you have to deal with, might have to mount the mic separate from the rig unfortunately.
You should never lower the wheelbase strength, mate. Keep it at 100% all the time and change the FFB strength from inside the game. If you lower the wheelbase strength, you cripple the dynamic range of the FFB, and you also get clipping. That's the reason wheelbases with 20-30 Nm exist. 👍
@@HDRGamingHub there are two schools of thought when it comes to this, one of which is what your saying. 100% base and in game most corners will only use like 20% ffb signal (or however heavy you like it) and you will almost never clip. However the downside is for people who use a heavy ffb when you hit a curb or a bump and it does get max ffb signal from the game you get a huge jolt which is rough at 25NM and if there are a lot of spots I have to hit curbs its going to suck. The other way to set it up is set the force in game to use 90%+ in most heavy corners and let it clip over curbs and hard hits, then you set your base to whatever you can handle. Neither way is bad as long as you're not clipping the game signal at peak force in corners, there are many variations to both methods but keep in mind very few are realistic as in sim we are looking for more info from the wheel than is typically there irl. Me personally I run 17NM with almost no filters which gives me a very raw detailed signal from the game to my wheel, and people I know who run full strength usually run a lot of filters to deal with the harshness of 25NM for when it does peak and there mid corner forces usually pan out to be close to what I run but usually less.
Happy you're enjoying this kit dude! Can't wait for the next stream with it.
Part of me hopes that you do have a problem with it.
Whilst being a brand partner will likely get you priority, seeing how they handle issues is super important to consumers.
Thanks Mike 👍🏻 I hope I don't but get your point! I have seen comments online and from others who I know have the equipment have reported good things about their customer service especially when compared to other companies
When I first installed my Invicta 27Nm base I accidentally drove 2 laps of Road America in the Super Formula on full force feedback. Genuinely scared for my safety during that! 15Nm is fine for me, and quickly resolved after realising my settings were different. 🤣
Oh Adrian I bet that was a shock!! 😂
You should never lower the wheelbase strength, mate. Keep it at 100% all the time and change the FFB strength from inside the game. If you lower the wheelbase strength, you cripple the dynamic range of the FFB, and you also get clipping. That's the reason wheelbases with 20-30 Nm exist. 👍
VRS makes great stuff
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I use `vivo barefoot primus-asana` shoes for racing they are just perfect. They keep the feel you have with just socks but prevent my toes from wrapping the pedal :)
VRS seems like unbelievably good value
All apart from that premium wheel
@@GregoryShtevensh Right. I don't know what happened there. But the base and that mean well custom 400 watt power supply is customed designed with that Mige motor. The pedals rock! I ended up buying one of those Ascher 5" dashboards to run with that new Ascher Artura Pro McLaren Wheel. As far as a good deal goes ok.... but I bought mine cause I think it's easily as good as a SC2 or Asetek. I could have bought either one. I think VRS is underrated. But I agree with you, as I wonder who decided to run with that wheel design. Can't go wrong with Ascher.
Can you show how you set up your pedals' angles ?
Hi.
I was hesitating in this moment between simucube and vrs
What anti vibrtion pads are you using?
Red spring and socks? you mad man - do your heels not get sore?
Haha not after 3 years of using the V3s, I've toughened them up!
Yea mee too....... LOL
Scott, is there a reason you aren't setting the wheelbase power to 100% and then turning the ffb down in the game? I thought that was the best practice so that your base has maximum overhead.
I was thinking to get the base + GT neo wheel,but now there is very good after for the vrs base and vrs formula wheel for £1180 and think to go this way.
Is this the buy once cry once wheelbase? I’m looking at upgrading my g29. Originally I was going to go with a moza r12 but if this is the only wheelbase I would ever need, might as well go for it.
This is much better then the moza and get the pedals also! Yes this can last you forever.
@@reviewforthetube6485 I hope so. Im gonna still keep my GT-DD pro and my CS 2.5 wheel. And Fanatec pedals as that set up is great for an entry level and beyond. But I ended up running with a VRS. VRS pedals and Ascher wheel. I honestly fear that all of these components are about to become very hard to find into 2025. I hope I'm wrong.
@@DragonFlySlayer-wf6ne just wait until you use the vrs wheelbase and vrs pedals. You are gonna be very surprised by how good everything is.
@@reviewforthetube6485 I have a ASR 4 chassis out of Canada. The front of my chassis actually fits under this desk I didn't want to get rid of. Those extra longer cables that connect to the power supply will fit perfect around the desk and the power supply will sit on my EVS 4X12 speaker cab. It's a large guitar amp cab. Then on my desk I have two beautiful black speaker mounts on each side up high with two Mackie HR8 studio monitors for sound. But even besides the application circumstance here I must have spent about a year researching different options. Asetek, SC2 Pro or a VRS. After I looked and read and witnessed videos.... One guy even told me that he has both a SC2 Pro and a VRS and he said if he blind folded me and I tried both, he didn't think I'd be able to tell the difference. It wasn't just a money factor here. It appears that VRS is pretty custom too. Something about special specs or tunning of the Mige Motor in harmony with the custom Meanwell 400 watter power supply?! My Ascher wheel is the USB type and there's also a mini USB cable so I could attach the Ascher USB to a wireless if I ever wanted to go that route. Personally I like the USB cable connection concept myself. It all works anyway. I think too having the 5" Ascher dashboard separate as opposed to a pretty wheel with it all built in like an F1 style has been known to drop off and fail in a given USB as they are power hogs according to boosted Media on youtube. Only thing I need now is the QR application and I'll be ready to switch her out.
I'm a NEWB, been hot lapping for two + years I guess. In all honesty I've never touched a SC2 Pro or an ASETEK. Their all superb. The VRS pedals were so enlightening and once I calibrated them to my bodies muscle memory it lit me up enough to consider that wheel base to go with it. My Fanatec GT-DD and wheel and V3 Fanatec pedals are still keepers! I'll store it nicely in the box as I fear this stuff could disappear in 2025 with what might be coming. Lets not take our toys for granted.
"To be continued"
EVH 4X12 Cab Not EVS ;p)
Are you thinking about switching the wheel deck plate for a front mount on your Next Level Racing rig? Or you're satisfied with that? Just out of curiosity.
The pedals look beefy, didn't expect that.
@labnux so I have gone to the front mount adapter. A portion of it is still plate but you can see the red angles on the wheel cam attaching into the base
Its basically front mounted i would say.
have you seen the new Mercedes sim Wheel
I have. A brilliant like for like wheel but too expensive 🤑
Advice please, i put a softer spring in my brake pedal but feel like its hurting my performance. What is the general opinion?
It's all preference but you want to be able to balance the pressure applied on the brake consistently. Having top soft a brake pedal can mean you apply the brake too harshly, can't maintain pressure I.e trail braking and this all results in lock ups, not being able to turn the car in correctly or overcompensating in braking too early. Try the stiffer spring/coil again and you will see a noticeable difference most likely
@@stuffeyy cheers dude
you also better use shoes ❤
you can spread pressure more equally
@@AL.farmlife yup 💯
You prefer to have 55% base max force mate than the 100% base but adjust the force ingame/iracing?.... Man, I have VRS pedals and it was awesome. I ordered the VRS rim coz they are on sale. its like 50% euro discount from the launch of the rim as many simracers/reviewers said it is overpriced during the initial release or launch of the rim.
I've altered this outlook now. This was just an approach that I saw from other reviewers and used that as a template to go from.
The rim I agree with, while it is a quality rim, it was too much for what is is at launch especially when comapred to competitors. I've had discussions with VRS and they told me upfront that they acknowledge this too.
@@stuffeyyyeah mate. Pedals is awesome compared to my Fanatec V3s pedals. I ordered the VRS rim compared to Cube controls Fcore since adding clutch to the latter will add some euros and I think VRS rim is more sturdy and more premium and neat looking.
For me GSI X29 represents far better value for the wheel you receive than the VRS.
Finally , you have no more flex 😅 Enjoy 👍
Now we're going to start bugging you to get a round wheel
Naaah why would I wanna do that lol
@@stuffeyy to drive cool cars
VRS base is out dated junk. Why do you think other companies don’t use these junk ass motors anymore 😂
What do you use then since there so out of date junk?
what you talkin ab bro