This is by far the most in-depth bow review I have ever seen. I hope I speak for the archery community when I say thank you for putting these together and keep them coming! Instant sub.
thank you for saying it! a ton of effort goes into these and I am glad you and others are finding value. Keep your eyes out because I am publishing 2 more reviews in the next 2 days, and we have another bow in for testing right now.
Hey Kellen great to have you back. Best extensive bow review channel to date hands-down.hope you’re bow review extend into a wider range of bow brands this year.
👀 keep your eyes out for a new bow review in the next few days from a brand we didn't get to test last year! Thank you for the positive comments! great to be back and testing
I feel like youre the perfect guy to ask this question to, if i have a 70-80 lb bow and i run it at 74-76 lbs is it going to be less efficent than if it is maxed out at 80lbs? Tnanks for the great reviews
Typically, the answer is yes. Bows often deliver peak efficiency when the limb bolts are fully tightened. However, the efficiency loss will be minimal, and I wouldn't be concerned about the minimal resulting speed loss. Much better to tune the bow to a poundage that is comfortable and safe (rotator cuff tendinitis sucks - I can speak from direct experience on that.) I shot a full year with a 71# peak weight bow dialed down to 65 #. My arrows were still zippin'.
Indeed - I shoot a 30" draw. Technically, I should probably shoot a 30.5", but I can get a more steady sight picture shooting a slightly shorter draw length with about an extra 1/8-1/4" on my D loop :)
Good video, thanks Sir! Question: are you commanding the shot? Just curious. And my opinion about that dynamic brace height: its just selling bla bla from PSE. A lot of bows do come up with those parameters. Depends on limbs and cam design
Great question. Under normal circumstances (when I am really shooting my bow) I do attempt to control the trigger activation process to create a surprise shot. Often when I am filming for bow reviews, I am simply punching to trigger because I am paying attention to other factors (feeling of the shot, volume, speed, etc.)
My understanding is that PSE is advocating that you should measure the dynamic brace height from the end of the cam at full draw. I am measuring from the last point that the string is actually touching the cam. I argue that mine is the more important way to measure it, because the point where the string is actually applying force/supported by the cam, is the true "dynamic brace height". Notably, the Hoyt RX-9 Ultra (for example) actually has the best dynamic brace height we've measured so far this year (it grows fairly substantially).
Pretty sure that’s not how PSE is measuring the FDS. Run a string to both cams off the cam grooves at full draw. Then measure where the brace height would be and you’ll see that that measurement does in fact increase by a bit. Good review though.
Yep, totally agree that that is not how PSE is measuring - but I disagree with that method. :) To my mind, the last point where the string is actually applying force to either the walls or the bottom of the cam channel would be what matters and should be counted as the dynamic brace height.
Understand and thanks for the reviews. However, according to PSE, dynamic Brace is a different measurement they used years ago with the XForce limbs. It’s the measured brace height when the arrow leaves the string. But you’d need a high speed camera like they used to get that measurement. Not sure if you’ve seen their video on it. It’s on RUclips somewhere. Here it is ruclips.net/video/a6Cvai-HY9U/видео.htmlsi=LdiSSK9jYdSL4OyL
This is by far the most in-depth bow review I have ever seen. I hope I speak for the archery community when I say thank you for putting these together and keep them coming! Instant sub.
thank you for saying it! a ton of effort goes into these and I am glad you and others are finding value.
Keep your eyes out because I am publishing 2 more reviews in the next 2 days, and we have another bow in for testing right now.
Hey Kellen great to have you back. Best extensive bow review channel to date hands-down.hope you’re bow review extend into a wider range of bow brands this year.
👀 keep your eyes out for a new bow review in the next few days from a brand we didn't get to test last year!
Thank you for the positive comments! great to be back and testing
People just haven't found you yet, hads down best bow review compared to anyone else's
Thanks for the positive comment! Its a lot of effort to make these reviews - although I love the chance to shoot so many bows.
Welcome back! Looking forward to your reviews for this season.
Thank you! I have about 12 lined up for this season - going to start charging through them as quickly as I can!
Thank you!
I feel like youre the perfect guy to ask this question to, if i have a 70-80 lb bow and i run it at 74-76 lbs is it going to be less efficent than if it is maxed out at 80lbs?
Tnanks for the great reviews
Typically, the answer is yes. Bows often deliver peak efficiency when the limb bolts are fully tightened. However, the efficiency loss will be minimal, and I wouldn't be concerned about the minimal resulting speed loss.
Much better to tune the bow to a poundage that is comfortable and safe (rotator cuff tendinitis sucks - I can speak from direct experience on that.)
I shot a full year with a 71# peak weight bow dialed down to 65 #. My arrows were still zippin'.
You thinking what I’m thinking Zackcook? Getting an 80# Mach 33 because those ec2 cams sooooo smoooth?
@@ApexArcheryGreat answer to this question. I’m assuming that your actual DL is 30”?
Indeed - I shoot a 30" draw. Technically, I should probably shoot a 30.5", but I can get a more steady sight picture shooting a slightly shorter draw length with about an extra 1/8-1/4" on my D loop :)
Nice review!
Any word when the darton sequel st2 31 and 33s will be hitting the shops?
Not sure - but Bear Creek Archery carries Darton so I will ask when I am back in the shop tomorrow!
Bad ass bow review
You going to review the Mach 35? And what about the RX9 Series
Don't worry - review of the Hoyt lineup and most other manufacturers are coming.
@ Good luck Hombre!
@@josephblake7314 The Hoyt RX-9 Ultra review is up.
Good video, thanks Sir! Question: are you commanding the shot? Just curious. And my opinion about that dynamic brace height: its just selling bla bla from PSE. A lot of bows do come up with those parameters. Depends on limbs and cam design
Great question. Under normal circumstances (when I am really shooting my bow) I do attempt to control the trigger activation process to create a surprise shot. Often when I am filming for bow reviews, I am simply punching to trigger because I am paying attention to other factors (feeling of the shot, volume, speed, etc.)
What was your draw length for these speeds?
What’s your DL?
I typically shoot either 30 or 30.25"
Im not understanding how everyone else is measuring a 7 in dynamic brace and your saying there is no dynamic brace difference
My understanding is that PSE is advocating that you should measure the dynamic brace height from the end of the cam at full draw. I am measuring from the last point that the string is actually touching the cam.
I argue that mine is the more important way to measure it, because the point where the string is actually applying force/supported by the cam, is the true "dynamic brace height".
Notably, the Hoyt RX-9 Ultra (for example) actually has the best dynamic brace height we've measured so far this year (it grows fairly substantially).
Pretty sure that’s not how PSE is measuring the FDS. Run a string to both cams off the cam grooves at full draw. Then measure where the brace height would be and you’ll see that that measurement does in fact increase by a bit.
Good review though.
Yep, totally agree that that is not how PSE is measuring - but I disagree with that method. :) To my mind, the last point where the string is actually applying force to either the walls or the bottom of the cam channel would be what matters and should be counted as the dynamic brace height.
Understand and thanks for the reviews. However, according to PSE, dynamic Brace is a different measurement they used years ago with the XForce limbs. It’s the measured brace height when the arrow leaves the string. But you’d need a high speed camera like they used to get that measurement. Not sure if you’ve seen their video on it. It’s on RUclips somewhere.
Here it is
ruclips.net/video/a6Cvai-HY9U/видео.htmlsi=LdiSSK9jYdSL4OyL
@@adamiv17 Thanks for sharing! I will check it out!