Ngl i like to imagine that Dust have more stamina and deal decent damage,and Killer have high mobility and can deal massive damage cause the real knife
Now we gotta wait for dusted horrored and dusted horrored killers. And maybe insaned killers, Insaned horrored, insaned dusted and insaned dusted horrored killers! JK
I'm going to put myself for a few moments in a "☝️🤓" I consider that "Killer Sans" is much stronger or so to speak than "Murder Sans", I will try to back up with logical arguments. Although it is not known which Take of "Killer" is, I will take the one of "something New", which although on one or another page it is explained that he can and could murder the whole underground alone, Chara in turn complaining about not expecting her, that in itself means that he did exactly the same as "Murder Sans", logically they would have the same amount of level, I will leave a "but", since I can not explain for sure if "Killer" contains the same "determination" as "Murder" , This is a key factor, but considering that canonically "Murder Sans" was able to defeat the human of its timeline I can in that it contains more control over it. Another factor to add is the fact that "Killer Sans" uses the real knife, while "Murder Sans" does not use any external weapon, any attack other than his Bones and Blasters are Inventions created by the Fanon, said so by the creator of "Murder Sans", with these facts I will make my point clear, "Killer Sans" is equal to or stronger than the skeleton of "Dusttale", I don't consider the "Hate" Factor because I don't have any information about it. Conclusion: Killer>Murder
I think ur wrong, killer is definitely stronger in attack, more determined and faster than dust but dust is better in most other categories, canon dust killed the entire underground without getting hit while they were fighting back but killer didn’t meaning dust has way more skill than him. Dust probably has a higher def cause human souls max out at 99hp. He may not have a weapon but the goop blaster is debatably a hinderance so dust would have equal abilities. I think they’re about even
Murder has a semi-canon novel that shows most os his feats, like, he killed undyne the undying in level 10 with one single blaster, he blasted the human in hotland to the ruins, he have close combat skills, using the true knife and bone weapons (he can create any melee weapon with his bones) he uses his blasters for creating flash bangs to blind his enemies and have a DT priority removal, idk how this works so i will assume that he can remove the DT for any being more determined than him? Feel free to think of another, but this is all i know.
Another thing is that he have massive speed, almost to killer's speed, he also have higher stats, he can use KR, but a weaker one, and he have an stronger IQ and BIQ. All of this is canon information of the novel (semi-canon) and the ask-dusttale post (idk IF is canon though). I didn't see the something new comic, so IF anyone that see it could explain to me his feats, please say. (Do not need any rude coment).
Nope Canon Murder sans is Little bit stronger than Canon Killer sans Just check out wiki again Killer Doesn't have Insane stats at all Close Range fighting skill might be higher than Dusttale sans' But in everything else they're almost equal Dusttale sans has Better Karmatic Retribution Killer sans' karma works on only monsters that have more lv than him Both of them Have Dt And Killer being able to Save and Load isn't confirmed by the Creator of killer But it's theoretically possible And same goes for Dusttale sans Cuz he had almost equal Dt to Human Real knife isn't Op Weapon Killer sans having 9999lv makes him weaker, cuz in Canon Wiki it wasn't mentioned that Higher lv would change his stats Which would give Dusttale sans higher advantage cuz of his Karmatic retribution Hmmmm i guess that's it For now You do a research if you don't believe me I am not gonna try to convince you so Just do a research I thought Killer is stronger too, but after some research, i changed my mind
@@alibeknorbekov5963Killer has an insane damage with 999999999999999...9 dmg when he uses bone attack but his knife 15 dmg. When does the creator say 'killer can't do SAVE Load'? I watched the Save Star in his comic. And Killer has more DT than Chara. Black liquid is his DT. In this case of 4 stage, He was seen that he actually has more DT than Chara. Dust only kills Frisk not Chara. Wiki has a lot of wrong information, so I hope to watch the comics,descriptions or etc...
Ngl i like to imagine that Dust have more stamina and deal decent damage,and Killer have high mobility and can deal massive damage cause the real knife
Understandable have a nice
@@Rey-BA Ty for the nice
@@Mr_POWERSswap sans stronger tbh
@@dominospizza0445 ok.
Real knife is not op
Book is op in Undertale
Real knife is just a little bit stronger version of Normal Kitchen Knife
*The battle we all waiting for*
*The Emo kid vs The Homophobic Guy*
Now we gotta wait for dusted horrored and dusted horrored killers.
And maybe insaned killers, Insaned horrored, insaned dusted and insaned dusted horrored killers!
JK
It would be The horror of insanity, A killers insanity, Muderders broken sanity and The group of broken souls.
Determination above level real?
I'm going to put myself for a few moments in a "☝️🤓"
I consider that "Killer Sans" is much stronger or so to speak than "Murder Sans", I will try to back up with logical arguments.
Although it is not known which Take of "Killer" is, I will take the one of "something New", which although on one or another page it is explained that he can and could murder the whole underground alone, Chara in turn complaining about not expecting her, that in itself means that he did exactly the same as "Murder Sans", logically they would have the same amount of level, I will leave a "but", since I can not explain for sure if "Killer" contains the same "determination" as "Murder" , This is a key factor, but considering that canonically "Murder Sans" was able to defeat the human of its timeline I can in that it contains more control over it.
Another factor to add is the fact that "Killer Sans" uses the real knife, while "Murder Sans" does not use any external weapon, any attack other than his Bones and Blasters are Inventions created by the Fanon, said so by the creator of "Murder Sans", with these facts I will make my point clear, "Killer Sans" is equal to or stronger than the skeleton of "Dusttale", I don't consider the "Hate" Factor because I don't have any information about it.
Conclusion: Killer>Murder
Killer have a determination soul + max lv
Dust only have max lv + no soul trait
Killer is stronger than dust obviously
Yes man, Canon killer is stronger than Canon Dust, but I think is Fanon Dust used in that vídeo since Canon Dust is weak
I think ur wrong, killer is definitely stronger in attack, more determined and faster than dust but dust is better in most other categories, canon dust killed the entire underground without getting hit while they were fighting back but killer didn’t meaning dust has way more skill than him. Dust probably has a higher def cause human souls max out at 99hp. He may not have a weapon but the goop blaster is debatably a hinderance so dust would have equal abilities. I think they’re about even
Murder has a semi-canon novel that shows most os his feats, like, he killed undyne the undying in level 10 with one single blaster, he blasted the human in hotland to the ruins, he have close combat skills, using the true knife and bone weapons (he can create any melee weapon with his bones) he uses his blasters for creating flash bangs to blind his enemies and have a DT priority removal, idk how this works so i will assume that he can remove the DT for any being more determined than him? Feel free to think of another, but this is all i know.
Another thing is that he have massive speed, almost to killer's speed, he also have higher stats, he can use KR, but a weaker one, and he have an stronger IQ and BIQ. All of this is canon information of the novel (semi-canon) and the ask-dusttale post (idk IF is canon though). I didn't see the something new comic, so IF anyone that see it could explain to me his feats, please say. (Do not need any rude coment).
Im a about to dust vs homophobic
transphobia vs homophobia.
I loved it
Murder time duo
its dust vs killer
@@ZephHateJephno way einstein
Maybe alt murders would be perfect
Wow
Can be called "Mirrored need for LV"
Their needs for LV aren't the same
Is this an AU of Mirrored Insanity? (FIRST!)
wdym?
who will win we will know in a few months
I waited so long for something like this, the only thing i miss is lethal deal(no pyrosomni, pyrosomni is crap)
I'm sorry, but Killer>>Dust
Nope
Canon Murder sans is Little bit stronger than Canon Killer sans
Just check out wiki again
Killer Doesn't have Insane stats at all
Close Range fighting skill might be higher than Dusttale sans'
But in everything else they're almost equal
Dusttale sans has Better Karmatic Retribution
Killer sans' karma works on only monsters that have more lv than him
Both of them Have Dt
And Killer being able to Save and Load isn't confirmed by the Creator of killer
But it's theoretically possible
And same goes for Dusttale sans
Cuz he had almost equal Dt to Human
Real knife isn't Op Weapon
Killer sans having 9999lv makes him weaker, cuz in Canon Wiki it wasn't mentioned that Higher lv would change his stats
Which would give Dusttale sans higher advantage cuz of his Karmatic retribution
Hmmmm i guess that's it
For now
You do a research if you don't believe me
I am not gonna try to convince you so
Just do a research
I thought Killer is stronger too, but after some research, i changed my mind
@@alibeknorbekov5963Killer has an insane damage with 999999999999999...9 dmg when he uses bone attack but his knife 15 dmg.
When does the creator say 'killer can't do SAVE Load'? I watched the Save Star in his comic.
And Killer has more DT than Chara. Black liquid is his DT. In this case of 4 stage, He was seen that he actually has more DT than Chara.
Dust only kills Frisk not Chara.
Wiki has a lot of wrong information, so I hope to watch the comics,descriptions or etc...
I think killer is gonna win in this take. Its just a guess but idk
bruh