Thanks Wizard! We are starting on our 47th and 48th Delorean Time Machines at our shop in Dallas right now! The whole crew is on vacation with me in Las Vegas watching your video now! I am going to look at a Levante today! ha haa
This engine needed to be put in my hands or a NASCAR race engine builder! I'd love to get my hands on a PRV, Engine Dyno, & Delorean! A.K.A: The Six Million Dollar Bionic Delorean!!!!!! LoL.🤔
The presence of a fuel flap marks this as a very early example. They soon removed it (within the first year) for a cleaner look, and you had to open the frunk to re-fuel.
I live close to Belfast and worked in the city in the early 80s remember going to have a look at the factory in Dunmurry hundreds of de loriens as far as the eye can see, very cool 👍
Nobody knows the little windows are toll booth windows. Delorean said theres no way you could open the gull wing doors on the bridge to pay the toll because the doors would get damaged. So he wanted tiny little windows put in with just enough gap to put your hand through to pay the toll on the bridge around new york. Thats what the tiny windows are for!
A good example of a driver quality car. Although they all look alike, there were rolling changes throughout the production life (Jan. ‘81 - Oct. ‘82) including three hood types (the fuel flap being the first, followed by a similar embossed hood sans flap, and then finally a completely flat hood with a ‘DeLorean’ emblem). Other changes included grey painted wheels on very early cars going to the more familiar silver painted versions. We also saw a windshield antenna go to a fixed mast on the front right fender, a manually retractable version, and then finally a power one set aft in the rear left-side faux vent. These cars are truly timeless and quirky and it’s great to see an owner want to keep the dream alive.
Built just up the road from me in Dunmurry outside Belfast. Well documented how bad it was but the mists of time (and that movie) have made it what it is now, a cult icon.
As I clicked play on this video, I was apprehensive and worried because my beloved DeLorean always catches a lot of unwarranted crap for a variety of reasons, but mostly because of myths about the car itself and people comparing it through the lens of modern vehicles. However this was a fair review. Wizard I hope you don't tap the Bosch intake screw to adjust the RPM. That's sealed for a reason. I noticed the brake master leak in the front on the gas can pan...unless that's water. But thank you for taking care of it! You're correct that most mechanics don't know how to work on these cars. Other people: PLEASE don't buy these and convert them into Time Machines.
As a past Kansan for 33 years, I'm very proud to see how successful you are in your business. To have your fabulous wife next to you is such an advantage...and probably fun too. I've been in Texas for the past 30 years and love bragging about the capabilities of another guy from Kansas. I will always be a subscriber even at 77.
Had one from 2007 to 2010. Most fun I’ve ever had with a car. People always asking for pictures and asking about it. Thankfully mine was in good shape. 👍
John DeLorean is one of my car heroes. He gets a bad rap for how his career ended in shambles, the whole drug case that was dismissed due to entrapment, and how the DeLorean car failed. Instead, he’s a hero because of what he did at GM and Pontiac. He’s the guy who said “hey let’s shove the big 389 from our full size Bonneville into our compact Tempest and have us some fun”…… thus was born the GTO. And the muscle car era. There should be a statue of him at the main entrance of the RenCen in Detroit.
He is also known for disaster at GM. Remember the ill fated Vega? Where he wanted a lightweight car to compete with Japan? Where the engine was made of aluminum and the cylinder walls were coated with a material called silicon carbide, which was supposed to reduce friction and wear. However, the coating was not durable enough and would wear off quickly and then the engine in best cases would burn and leak oil. In the worst cases? They caught on fire after being parked. My parents owned one, and this exactly happened - the car caught on fire in the parking lot at work. GM gave up on the car and leased my parents a Buick LeSabre at great discount, but the battery died every 6 months.
His reputation is in contention to this day. Depending on how you look at it, he's either a beleaguered car manufacturer willing to do whatever it took to keep his business afloat or he's an unscrupulous man that had no qualms sinking so low to be involved in trafficking drugs which destroy lives.
@@Buc_Stops_Here There were enough bean counters and cost cutters between DeLorean’s idea and final production at GM by then to take much of the blame away from him. He should have been CEO of the company, with Zora Arkus Duntov the head of all racing development. And 90% of the accountants and bean counters all fired.
Don't blame John z for the Chevy Vega engine debacle. He was PREZ of vhebybejen he inherited the Vega project and bad engine. GM had excess aluminum man capacity in NY and to amortize costs they build that dud. Read his book on a clear day you can see GM
I like the fact this one hasn't been turned into a movie prop like so many others. It's cool to see one as originally equipped. From the view underneath, you can see how only the body is stainless steel; the chassis is standard steel and rusts just like regular cars - more so than newer cars since many of the suspension parts are now made of aluminum.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't a DeLorean a fiberglass shell with a stainless steel veneer? There's no way a car body( minus the frame & suspension) made totally out of stainless steel is going to weigh about 2800 lbs. like this version does. Just wondering.
Even worse, the chassis was covered by an epoxy from the factory to help prohibit rust. The problem is that if the epoxy ever got chipped, and being that was under the car where it would get hit by rocks, water and moisture would get trapped between the steel frame and the epoxy and cause more rust than if the frame wasn’t covered at all.
I also read somewhere that if the fiberglass was damaged due to minor bumps, rocks etc. you couldn't tell because the ss veneer would hide it. Eventually the fiberglass part would deteriorate & fail. WTF?
@@deanjo57790 That is true, but that epoxy also keeps the frame in perfect condition as long as it's kept up. Most owners go over their entire cars every year or so checking for such things to make sure and take care of it before it ever becomes a bigger problem. As long as you maintain it, it holds up really well!
Cue Huey Lewis & The News’ “Back in Time”! Late ‘80s in our Boston suburb, a hippie girl as I recall used to drive her dad’s DeLorean to highschool. When I lived in LA in the ‘00-‘10s, someone in my neighborhood had one as well. No matter what, even if so slow it stays stuck in time, this car will always be futuristic and iconic.
I fully understand that they are pretty much utter crap. No one in their right mind would own one. Yet, if the opportunity presents itself, I will not hesitate for a second to buy one. Slow…unreliable…don’t care one bit. Sign me up and I’ll wear out a couple soundtrack tapes.
When DMV WENT BUST THEY HAD ABOUT 300. CARS ON A OLD CHEVY DEALER LOT ALL EERE INCOMPLETE LIKE NO SPARE RADIO JACK 1 SEAT.. YOU GET THE PICTURE. IMPRESSIVE TO C. ALL THEM CARS WAITING TO BE AUCTIONED. OFF
If I had a clean DeLorean th last thing I would do it time machine it. A College paper I wrote in 83 said he would get off the charges. One of the few A's I got!
I own one of these ('82 model year) in very similar condition to this one. They are in no doubt quirky but truly are a dream to own and it makes stories everywhere it goes. Staying up on maintenance and they are good runners and moderately reliable (I have seen far worse). The engine in stock form is def anemic but some modficiations (stage 1 / 2) put it in a place thats atleast comfortable and fun to drive around. Without a doubt one of the most rewarding car purchaes I have ever made by far!
There is one in a local shop near me. Also 1981. It is in fair condition. The mechanic said it has a Volvo engine. I thought it was a Peugeot engine forty years ago. So, PRV, indeed!
Not 3 liter but 2,8 liter. The PRV engine was first 2,7 liter. You find variants of the engine in these cars. Alpine A610 MVS Venturi Eagle Premier Citroën XM Renault 25 Renault 30 Renault Espace Renault Laguna Renault Megane Renault Safrane Peugeot 504 Peugeot 604 Peugeot 505 Peugeot 605 DeLorean DMC-12 Lancia Thema Volvo 240 GLT 6 Volvo 260 Volvo 363 (Concept car) Volvo 760 Volvo 780 Volvo 960 (some markets 1991) Talbot Tagora
I believe it was the U.S. version that had this much power due to all of the usual emissions equipment that rob that missing amount of power, installed at the time. Later versions of the same engine had about 150 or so horses in the Peugeot 505 and the Eagle Premier/Dodge Monaco, and the Volvo 760, 780 and 960, here in North America.
6:47 Never trust the mileage on a DeLorean. Angle drive from the front driver's wheel usually fails. Speedhut (not sponsored) makes a GPS box + GM adapter to fix that.
I had a good friend that had one back-in-the-day. It was so underpowered it would just barely get up to 88. That Bosch K-Jetronic and L-Jetronic fuel injection is indeed rather finicky; you are a good man to tackle that. GREAT VIDEO!
Nice! Magical car at The Wizard's. I also watch Legit streetcars. Alex did a complete restauration on his Delorean. Including checking out 'the valley of death'. Epic series. Cool to see they're still being worked on and loved!
Its pretty easy to remove the back bumper and tail lights to work on the front of the engine like replacing the belts and water pumps. I just hope the owner had the valley of death checked out. Coolant likes to leak and corrode the aluminum engine block in the valley to where the oil galleys leak pressurized oil.
@legitstreercars came across corrosion in the frame in his North Dakota Delorean. He did a great mechanical refresh on the suspension, interior weather stripping, and more. He even regrained the staineless steel. He did it all in time for his Halloween lawn display (as Doc and Marty).
If you want to see a deep dive into working on these cars. Seek out friend of the Channel, Alex. LSC has one, even with the fuel flap and he just did a major refresh on his.
Back to the Future was the first movie I remember seeing as a child, and it will always be my favorite. I got to sit in a Delorean once, and being 6'5", we couldn't close the gullwing.
These cars cost the UK taxpayers a lot of money and sadly it all ended in tears. At the end you could buy a complete kit to bulid one yourself, but as a friend found out they were not easy to assemble. Without a lot of help from the workers who had lost their jobs he would never have finished it. A car that still turns heads today wherever he drives it. A true classic despite the issues that they have.
@chrispompano but it wasn't the British Crown that it cost, it was the tax payer. The second biggest engineering disaster ever to come out of Belfast.
@@acd1202 Exactly, & it was once said "Let them eat cake" & fork over their money to The American Dream, in the name of diplomacy & dip!somatic relations, Still classified!🤔
It wasn't the British Crown who paid it, it was paid from the taxpayers pockets and all for nothing. John Delorean turned out to be a typical rouge American.@@chrispompano
The 2.7 litres 90° V6 was originally designed as a 3.5 litres V8 ... but energy crisis hit the nails in its coffin ... and PRV chopped off 2 cylinders for a more economically correct (at that time) V6. It went through various iterations with the first series basically maintaining the very same V8 chopped inards - featuring an uneven ignition timing. Lter they used a different crankshaft and camshafts to get a more even timing using the engine as two straight 3 cylinders at 90° offsetted. The first series had a very unmistakeable running noise, particular at the exhaust. The Volvo 264 used the first series as well as Renault 30 and Peugeot 604 V6. The Renault Alpine 310 used it as well.
I have owned - restored - sold two of these in the past, and seeing videos like this kinda makes me want another, until I remember what bad cars they are. Thankfully I still have my photos from those restorations. Thanks Wizard for the trip down memory lane!
I'm not sayin' I'm old, but I still have the tools to work on those. I haven't used them in about 33 years, but I keep them just in case. You never know what's going to pull into the shop.
I've always thought it'd be fun to at least to drive a Delorian. I have heard from other videos about deloreans on RUclips recently that the little door for fueling is a first year feature, on later years you had to open the entire front hood.
As an owner of an early '82 model, this is in fact true (they ditched this somewhere in the mid '81 timeframe). It's not a deal breaker by any means and later cars are generally more reliable but the gas flap in the hood is def cool.
Yup my understanding is there were 3 different types of hoods, the first had the fuel filler door and the creases, next version removed the door and final version had no creases, and this was done as it was easier to make the hood without those features.
If I ever found myself fortunate enough to get my mitts on one of these I think I would try to fit a more modern 3.8 v6 into it and drive it daily (ish) 😊
Delorean used to drive an Acura NSX as a daily driver. 🙂 There was a "Where is he now" article in the New Jersey Star Ledger many years back with a picture of him walking up to it at a shopping mall, I think it was the Willowbrook Mall.
I'ce actually never seen where the fuel filler was on these. Nice overview of the car. Nice to see it not cut up and turned into a time machine replica.
Before adjusting the mixture and the fuel distributor, really should check the control pressure at the warm up regulator. The fuel distributor adjustment is only for fine tuning, but will not fix hard start problems. What is the black CDI at the shop for? I have one as my daily. They are a great value
A friend of mine bought one of these in the early 80s, and he let me drive it once. If I remember right, it was not an automatic. It drove nicely, but that C pillar blocks your side and rear vision very badly. That is a well cared for model.
These cars always remind me of the '85 VW Scirocco turbo I had in college. See the scene at 15:17 and you'll see it. And the Scirocco had CIS fuel injection as well... Great video!
It is a time machine, it's obvious that the Cyber truck is a re-incarnation of the DeLorean, stainless steel, the shape and even a frunk, it's no accident or co-incidence. Someone made this observation on youtube and by golly he is right on the money. The reason why the PVR 2.7L fuel injected V6 was adopted is because Renault had used it in their top of the range front wheel drive R30 sedan. Mr DeLorean was astute enough to avoid a full blown design and development from the ground up of a mid/rear engine/transaxle with independant suspension and he knew he had one off the shelf in the Renault, a complete package thank you very much, just some mods to fit it behind the driver.
I have so many fond memories of the Delorean my parents had when I was young. For me it’s on the same level as the bmw Z8 my mom had although I only got to drive the Z8
I have always wanted a DeLorean since I was a child but I know it's something I could never have, the expense and the price of one is far beyond anything that I could ever own, but it's nice to dream..
It is a really Good Movie. Especially the beginning of the movie when M.J. Fox is looking down Victory Blvd. in Burbank Calif. in 1985 as was where I worked in 1985, brings back memories every time.
1.21 jiggawatts! I absolutely loved how you went over DMC12's systems - and learned a lot of new stuff here. I never thought it would have an engine compartment in the back and boot in the front, pretty much like Fiat 126. The flux capacitor is definitely nice... and I wonder if there are still any DeLorean owners who are NOT into Back to the Future. 13:40 is it asbestos? If so, this thing looks baaaaad...
I'm the guy who drives by your shop when you're taping an episode. I don't charge royalties for using the content I "generate" for you 😊, so you're welcome to use the sound freely.
Remember back in the late 80's where I lived in the UK, there was a very scruffy Delorean for sale! But he could not sell it, for any price!! My dad regrets not buying it when he had the chance.
Well the Wizard just uncovered a BTTF movie flub. Showing us the gas tank is in the fronk. In BTTF3 they are refilling the gas tank with Whiskey (since there is no gasoline in 1885) and they show them filling it in the more traditional area on the rear quarter panel.
Back in 2000 or 2001 I was in El Paso Texas on a 3-day layover. One day walking from the airport to my hotel there was this little mom and pop used car dealership that had a manual DeLorean with right around 40,000 miles and they only wanted $7500 for it. If I had been there one more day I would have bought it and driven it back to Atlanta. (If it would have made it.😅)
I've talked to DeLorean owners before and they really do love their cars. They feel that a lot of the criticisms of the car are mostly made by people that have never owned one. DeLoreans are underpowered but probably more reliable than a new Chrysler or Jeep.
If it's 304L stainless it will rust right up in salt water, or salty snowmelt. It will turn black instead of brown, but all the associated steel oxidation problems like rust jacking are still there. And there are still carbon steel parts under it that will rust out of existence. I had a friend who bought one of these to fix up. It's slightly faster than a 3-cylinder Mirage. 1985 me was disappointed.
These cool cars go for big $$$$$. There is a place in Naples, Florida that do complete rebuilds and updates them for better performance and reliability.
They’ve probably gotten window stickers on now! As for the GM in Flowood, they’ve most likely moved him to another dealership. Find out where the new GM is from and yiu might just find the prior GM from Flowood there!
The most 80s car designed by a man that embodies the excess of the 80s the most used in a movie that defined the 80s.
Awesome.
Thanks Wizard!
We are starting on our 47th and 48th Delorean Time Machines at our shop in Dallas right now!
The whole crew is on vacation with me in Las Vegas watching your video now!
I am going to look at a Levante today! ha haa
Very cool! I didn't see the General Lee, Bullitt Mustang, or any of the Fast and Furious cars... Do you make those too?
This engine needed to be put in my hands or a NASCAR race engine builder! I'd love to get my hands on a PRV, Engine Dyno,
& Delorean! A.K.A: The Six Million Dollar Bionic Delorean!!!!!! LoL.🤔
The presence of a fuel flap marks this as a very early example. They soon removed it (within the first year) for a cleaner look, and you had to open the frunk to re-fuel.
Oh!
I'm no delorean nerd, but I never saw a fuel cap featured in a review before, so with it being hidden that would explain it.
true
I think it looks better with it.
@@LG123ABC😮
I live close to Belfast and worked in the city in the early 80s remember going to have a look at the factory in Dunmurry hundreds of de loriens as far as the eye can see, very cool 👍
What a glorious memory to have.
The vids that Legit Street Cars did on his DeLorean restoration are fantastic. Learned a lot about the car.
I hope you learned not to buy one.
Nobody knows the little windows are toll booth windows. Delorean said theres no way you could open the gull wing doors on the bridge to pay the toll because the doors would get damaged. So he wanted tiny little windows put in with just enough gap to put your hand through to pay the toll on the bridge around new york. Thats what the tiny windows are for!
Other reason was the door design couldn’t fit the needed mechanisms for a full size window so JZD went with the toll booth window
Thought they were for the tazor guns that were supposed to be invented afterwards.
Just be careful in the JCP parking lot.
I thought it was for the Cocaine transactions back in the day 🫢
Or the Fotomat drive-through.
Built near me in Belfast. The workers in the factory had really interesting stories about their short lived time there. Closed too quickly.
DEA and feds along with banks conspired you take him. Down
A good example of a driver quality car. Although they all look alike, there were rolling changes throughout the production life (Jan. ‘81 - Oct. ‘82) including three hood types (the fuel flap being the first, followed by a similar embossed hood sans flap, and then finally a completely flat hood with a ‘DeLorean’ emblem). Other changes included grey painted wheels on very early cars going to the more familiar silver painted versions. We also saw a windshield antenna go to a fixed mast on the front right fender, a manually retractable version, and then finally a power one set aft in the rear left-side faux vent.
These cars are truly timeless and quirky and it’s great to see an owner want to keep the dream alive.
Built just up the road from me in Dunmurry outside Belfast. Well documented how bad it was but the mists of time (and that movie) have made it what it is now, a cult icon.
As I clicked play on this video, I was apprehensive and worried because my beloved DeLorean always catches a lot of unwarranted crap for a variety of reasons, but mostly because of myths about the car itself and people comparing it through the lens of modern vehicles. However this was a fair review.
Wizard I hope you don't tap the Bosch intake screw to adjust the RPM. That's sealed for a reason. I noticed the brake master leak in the front on the gas can pan...unless that's water. But thank you for taking care of it! You're correct that most mechanics don't know how to work on these cars.
Other people: PLEASE don't buy these and convert them into Time Machines.
@markasread4349 lol! 😄So you're THAT guy who wants to see the world burn!
As a past Kansan for 33 years, I'm very proud to see how successful you are in your business. To have your fabulous wife next to you is such an advantage...and probably fun too. I've been in Texas for the past 30 years and love bragging about the capabilities of another guy from Kansas. I will always be a subscriber even at 77.
If it wasn’t for Back to the future I don’t think they would be half as many of them left on the road today.
Yeah, I don't like seeing so many turned into movie prop cars, but without the movie the cars would be forgotten, so it's a net benefit.
I’m so glad this hasn’t been turned into a Time Machine. They are such great looking , iconic cars . It sucks so many of them are now time machines .
I feel the same way about KITT.
@@keanecoquete4977 same here , ruining a perfectly good 3rd gen Trans Am .
They’re slow heavy and don’t handle well. 😂
They can be reverse-engineered back to stock when you've had enough of the BTTF additions, surely?
@@frglee Way more work than it’s worth. You would need at least 500 hp to move that stainless steel tank around with any respect.
Had one from 2007 to 2010. Most fun I’ve ever had with a car. People always asking for pictures and asking about it. Thankfully mine was in good shape. 👍
John DeLorean is one of my car heroes. He gets a bad rap for how his career ended in shambles, the whole drug case that was dismissed due to entrapment, and how the DeLorean car failed.
Instead, he’s a hero because of what he did at GM and Pontiac. He’s the guy who said “hey let’s shove the big 389 from our full size Bonneville into our compact Tempest and have us some fun”…… thus was born the GTO. And the muscle car era.
There should be a statue of him at the main entrance of the RenCen in Detroit.
He is also known for disaster at GM. Remember the ill fated Vega? Where he wanted a lightweight car to compete with Japan? Where the engine was made of aluminum and the cylinder walls were coated with a material called silicon carbide, which was supposed to reduce friction and wear. However, the coating was not durable enough and would wear off quickly and then the engine in best cases would burn and leak oil. In the worst cases? They caught on fire after being parked. My parents owned one, and this exactly happened - the car caught on fire in the parking lot at work. GM gave up on the car and leased my parents a Buick LeSabre at great discount, but the battery died every 6 months.
His reputation is in contention to this day. Depending on how you look at it, he's either a beleaguered car manufacturer willing to do whatever it took to keep his business afloat or he's an unscrupulous man that had no qualms sinking so low to be involved in trafficking drugs which destroy lives.
@@Buc_Stops_Here There were enough bean counters and cost cutters between DeLorean’s idea and final production at GM by then to take much of the blame away from him.
He should have been CEO of the company, with Zora Arkus Duntov the head of all racing development. And 90% of the accountants and bean counters all fired.
Don't blame John z for the Chevy Vega engine debacle. He was PREZ of vhebybejen he inherited the Vega project and bad engine. GM had excess aluminum man capacity in NY and to amortize costs they build that dud. Read his book on a clear day you can see GM
He was setup by new DEA AND HIS COMPANY SQUEEZED BY BANKS TO FORCE HIM
I like the fact this one hasn't been turned into a movie prop like so many others. It's cool to see one as originally equipped. From the view underneath, you can see how only the body is stainless steel; the chassis is standard steel and rusts just like regular cars - more so than newer cars since many of the suspension parts are now made of aluminum.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't a DeLorean a fiberglass shell with a stainless steel veneer? There's no way a car body( minus the frame & suspension) made totally out of stainless steel is going to weigh about 2800 lbs. like this version does. Just wondering.
Even worse, the chassis was covered by an epoxy from the factory to help prohibit rust. The problem is that if the epoxy ever got chipped, and being that was under the car where it would get hit by rocks, water and moisture would get trapped between the steel frame and the epoxy and cause more rust than if the frame wasn’t covered at all.
@@deanjo57790Alex on legit street cars has the same issue on his DeLorean.
I also read somewhere that if the fiberglass was damaged due to minor bumps, rocks etc. you couldn't tell because the ss veneer would hide it. Eventually the fiberglass part would deteriorate & fail. WTF?
@@deanjo57790 That is true, but that epoxy also keeps the frame in perfect condition as long as it's kept up. Most owners go over their entire cars every year or so checking for such things to make sure and take care of it before it ever becomes a bigger problem. As long as you maintain it, it holds up really well!
Cue Huey Lewis & The News’ “Back in Time”! Late ‘80s in our Boston suburb, a hippie girl as I recall used to drive her dad’s DeLorean to highschool. When I lived in LA in the ‘00-‘10s, someone in my neighborhood had one as well. No matter what, even if so slow it stays stuck in time, this car will always be futuristic and iconic.
I fully understand that they are pretty much utter crap. No one in their right mind would own one. Yet, if the opportunity presents itself, I will not hesitate for a second to buy one. Slow…unreliable…don’t care one bit. Sign me up and I’ll wear out a couple soundtrack tapes.
When DMV WENT BUST THEY HAD ABOUT 300. CARS ON A OLD CHEVY DEALER LOT ALL EERE INCOMPLETE LIKE NO SPARE RADIO JACK 1 SEAT.. YOU GET THE PICTURE. IMPRESSIVE TO C. ALL THEM CARS WAITING TO BE AUCTIONED. OFF
If I had a clean DeLorean th last thing I would do it time machine it. A College paper I wrote in 83 said he would get off the charges. One of the few A's I got!
Entrapment
I own one of these ('82 model year) in very similar condition to this one. They are in no doubt quirky but truly are a dream to own and it makes stories everywhere it goes. Staying up on maintenance and they are good runners and moderately reliable (I have seen far worse). The engine in stock form is def anemic but some modficiations (stage 1 / 2) put it in a place thats atleast comfortable and fun to drive around. Without a doubt one of the most rewarding car purchaes I have ever made by far!
agreed!
I worked with some people that made the body panels in Carlow . They used to make ash pans from the scrap stainless as a decoration.
Really, where abouts in Carlow? Never knew this information 😮
There is one in a local shop near me. Also 1981. It is in fair condition. The mechanic said it has a Volvo engine. I thought it was a Peugeot engine forty years ago. So, PRV, indeed!
Yes see detailed replies above, the engine was built in Dourvin in France but shared. De Lorean thought he could save $$$ and use a shared engine.
Not 3 liter but 2,8 liter. The PRV engine was first 2,7 liter. You find variants of the engine in these cars.
Alpine A610
MVS Venturi
Eagle Premier
Citroën XM
Renault 25
Renault 30
Renault Espace
Renault Laguna
Renault Megane
Renault Safrane
Peugeot 504
Peugeot 604
Peugeot 505
Peugeot 605
DeLorean DMC-12
Lancia Thema
Volvo 240 GLT 6
Volvo 260
Volvo 363 (Concept car)
Volvo 760
Volvo 780
Volvo 960 (some markets 1991)
Talbot Tagora
130 hp for 2.7 litre seems very low. Is there any engine work to help fix that?
So all these cars had a 130Hp V6? God the 80s were awful.
Are you sure about the Lancia Thema being it’s Italian and the engine is french?
@@johnchurch4705Earlier Lancia Themas were also delivered with the 2.8 L PRV V6 engine.
I believe it was the U.S. version that had this much power due to all of the usual emissions equipment that rob that missing amount of power, installed at the time.
Later versions of the same engine had about 150 or so horses in the Peugeot 505 and the Eagle Premier/Dodge Monaco, and the Volvo 760, 780 and 960, here in North America.
Wizard thinks we all forgot his videos saying he will never take on old cars anymore 😂
Probably a very special case and long time customer. I imagine finding people that can do work on a DMC 12 isn't easy.
The Hot start issue will be the Fuel Accumulator. it's a wear item. Easy to fix.
I was going to say the same thing (happened to me too)... took an hour or so to replace and fixed issue instantly.
Fortunately, in the 13 years that I owned mine, I never had a hot start issue. Just an occasional no-start issue! lol
It’s great to actually find people who know what they are doing these days
6:47 Never trust the mileage on a DeLorean. Angle drive from the front driver's wheel usually fails. Speedhut (not sponsored) makes a GPS box + GM adapter to fix that.
This is my dream car and you treated it with such love and respect..
I had a good friend that had one back-in-the-day. It was so underpowered it would just barely get up to 88. That Bosch K-Jetronic and L-Jetronic fuel injection is indeed rather finicky; you are a good man to tackle that. GREAT VIDEO!
Nice! Magical car at The Wizard's.
I also watch Legit streetcars. Alex did a complete restauration on his Delorean. Including checking out 'the valley of death'. Epic series. Cool to see they're still being worked on and loved!
Always admired the DeLorean, I wish I could have picked one up when they were bottomed out about 15 years ago.
Back to the future is one of the greatest movies ever.
Its pretty easy to remove the back bumper and tail lights to work on the front of the engine like replacing the belts and water pumps. I just hope the owner had the valley of death checked out. Coolant likes to leak and corrode the aluminum engine block in the valley to where the oil galleys leak pressurized oil.
That's where my B27F leaked coolant on my Volvo. I remember seeing coolant pooling there. I had it corrected before any damage was done.
Would really love to see a repair video on the DeLorean! Sounds like an interesting machine to work on! Please do it Wizard!
Keep it original, that's where the the money will be in 20 years, the film's are timeless and the interest in these cars will never go away.
I often wonder how much could have been developed with the DMC had the big drug/entrapment thing had not taken place.
Made to fail by John enimies feds DEA Belfast Banks were all involved read. On a clear day you can see GM
@legitstreercars came across corrosion in the frame in his North Dakota Delorean. He did a great mechanical refresh on the suspension, interior weather stripping, and more. He even regrained the staineless steel. He did it all in time for his Halloween lawn display (as Doc and Marty).
The body panels are stainless but the Lotus-derived frame is not. These can rust.
If you want to see a deep dive into working on these cars. Seek out friend of the Channel, Alex. LSC has one, even with the fuel flap and he just did a major refresh on his.
I saw a *very* stylish car in my rearview mirror, in the 1980’s. I pulled over to check out this supercar: Yup! A Delorean
Wow very early production model, with the flip up fuel door!!very cool
Contrary to what Mz. Wizard said, they have additional AC vents in the door arm rests.
You can see the open duct hole on the left side of the dash as Mrs. Wizard is explaining the steering wheel...
Back to the Future was the first movie I remember seeing as a child, and it will always be my favorite. I got to sit in a Delorean once, and being 6'5", we couldn't close the gullwing.
Makes me wonder how John Z. was ever able to drive it!
These cars cost the UK taxpayers a lot of money and sadly it all ended in tears.
At the end you could buy a complete kit to bulid one yourself, but as a friend found
out they were not easy to assemble.
Without a lot of help from the workers who had lost their jobs he would never have
finished it.
A car that still turns heads today wherever he drives it.
A true classic despite the issues that they have.
Pffffft.....the British Crown could afford it sitting on mountains of gold & jewels of the queens Dowries!
@chrispompano but it wasn't the British Crown that it cost, it was the tax payer. The second biggest engineering disaster ever to come out of Belfast.
@@acd1202 Exactly, & it was once said "Let them eat cake" & fork over their money to The American Dream, in the name of diplomacy & dip!somatic relations, Still classified!🤔
It wasn't the British Crown who paid it, it was paid from the taxpayers pockets
and all for nothing.
John Delorean turned out to be a typical rouge American.@@chrispompano
Yugo was a better car.
The 2.7 litres 90° V6 was originally designed as a 3.5 litres V8 ... but energy crisis hit the nails in its coffin ... and PRV chopped off 2 cylinders for a more economically correct (at that time) V6. It went through various iterations with the first series basically maintaining the very same V8 chopped inards - featuring an uneven ignition timing. Lter they used a different crankshaft and camshafts to get a more even timing using the engine as two straight 3 cylinders at 90° offsetted. The first series had a very unmistakeable running noise, particular at the exhaust. The Volvo 264 used the first series as well as Renault 30 and Peugeot 604 V6. The Renault Alpine 310 used it as well.
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Exactly flawed design but mine had holley carbureuters!!!!! made a noise but lacked forward momentum
I loved the sound the 264 GL made.
A-Team Van seems to be the most liveable Video Bob project. That is DAILY-ABLE and has the retro cool factor.
I have owned - restored - sold two of these in the past, and seeing videos like this kinda makes me want another, until I remember what bad cars they are. Thankfully I still have my photos from those restorations. Thanks Wizard for the trip down memory lane!
Well. You could just keep the body and replace the engine, transmission, all the electronics etc 😂
They had such potential….too bad GM was allowed to go to war and run them out of business. It really started with the drivetrain choice.
They’re awful cars 😂
@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle
Basically what you would want to do if you’re planning on driving it daily. 😂
@@rolandthethompsongunner64wrong again. I daily drove mine with no issues
I'm not sayin' I'm old, but I still have the tools to work on those. I haven't used them in about 33 years, but I keep them just in case. You never know what's going to pull into the shop.
What a futuristic looking car, even today.
@markasread4349 In the future?
That's heavy
Body design is GREAT. I couldn't believe it only had a weak V-6 in it.
Too many straight lines. It's embedded in the early 80s.
The interior together with the steeply raked windscreen looked slightly ahead of it's time.
@@user-ht1xu4gv2u Is there a problem with gravity?
I've always thought it'd be fun to at least to drive a Delorian. I have heard from other videos about deloreans on RUclips recently that the little door for fueling is a first year feature, on later years you had to open the entire front hood.
As an owner of an early '82 model, this is in fact true (they ditched this somewhere in the mid '81 timeframe). It's not a deal breaker by any means and later cars are generally more reliable but the gas flap in the hood is def cool.
Yup my understanding is there were 3 different types of hoods, the first had the fuel filler door and the creases, next version removed the door and final version had no creases, and this was done as it was easier to make the hood without those features.
@@terrybeavan4264 everything you said is correct.
@lesstyranny2695 81 no gas flap here. Definitely gets the extra look when gas in up.
You still have to worry about rust underneath the car. Alex from Legit Streetcars showed that in his DeLorean build.
If I ever found myself fortunate enough to get my mitts on one of these I think I would try to fit a more modern 3.8 v6 into it and drive it daily (ish) 😊
Delorean used to drive an Acura NSX as a daily driver. 🙂
There was a "Where is he now" article in the New Jersey Star Ledger many years back with a picture of him walking up to it at a shopping mall, I think it was the Willowbrook Mall.
I remember when the 🧙♂️ started his YT channel, felt like yesterday. Now he's abut to hit 1 million subscribers. Amazing.
I'ce actually never seen where the fuel filler was on these. Nice overview of the car.
Nice to see it not cut up and turned into a time machine replica.
My old volvo had that engine. I had no idea how rare it was at the time. Took 20 years to see another one like it..
Boy, that is an early production version!
Loved the RV repair series, please update the progress on the RV. Can wait to see how you adapted to the supply constraints!
Before adjusting the mixture and the fuel distributor, really should check the control pressure at the warm up regulator. The fuel distributor adjustment is only for fine tuning, but will not fix hard start problems. What is the black CDI at the shop for? I have one as my daily. They are a great value
A friend of mine bought one of these in the early 80s, and he let me drive it once.
If I remember right, it was not an automatic.
It drove nicely, but that C pillar blocks your side and rear vision very badly.
That is a well cared for model.
They don't make much of a shopping jeep either.
These cars always remind me of the '85 VW Scirocco turbo I had in college. See the scene at 15:17 and you'll see it.
And the Scirocco had CIS fuel injection as well...
Great video!
It is a time machine, it's obvious that the Cyber truck is a re-incarnation of the DeLorean, stainless steel, the shape and even a frunk, it's no accident or co-incidence. Someone made this observation on youtube and by golly he is right on the money. The reason why the PVR 2.7L fuel injected V6 was adopted is because Renault had used it in their top of the range front wheel drive R30 sedan. Mr DeLorean was astute enough to avoid a full blown design and development from the ground up of a mid/rear engine/transaxle with independant suspension and he knew he had one off the shelf in the Renault, a complete package thank you very much, just some mods to fit it behind the driver.
I have so many fond memories of the Delorean my parents had when I was young. For me it’s on the same level as the bmw Z8 my mom had although I only got to drive the Z8
Happy New Year Wizard Family!
Oh be still my heart ❤
I have always wanted a DeLorean since I was a child but I know it's something I could never have, the expense and the price of one is far beyond anything that I could ever own, but it's nice to dream..
Don't let Tyler anywhere near it!
Especially the Flux Capacitor.
Which Tyler - Grimes or Hoover? lol
Those tail lamps, so Lotus 1980s!
Great Scott, 1.21 gigawatts!
My favorite classic!
It is a really Good Movie. Especially the beginning of the movie when M.J. Fox is looking down Victory Blvd. in Burbank Calif. in 1985 as was where I worked in 1985, brings back memories every time.
1.21 jiggawatts!
I absolutely loved how you went over DMC12's systems - and learned a lot of new stuff here. I never thought it would have an engine compartment in the back and boot in the front, pretty much like Fiat 126. The flux capacitor is definitely nice... and I wonder if there are still any DeLorean owners who are NOT into Back to the Future.
13:40 is it asbestos? If so, this thing looks baaaaad...
Yes that part is asbestos and the muffler shield as well. I'm a owner and mine have been removed.
I'm the guy who drives by your shop when you're taping an episode. I don't charge royalties for using the content I "generate" for you 😊, so you're welcome to use the sound freely.
I've heard about this incident. But i didn't know about the attempt to retrieve the machine the year before
Remember back in the late 80's where I lived in the UK, there was a very scruffy Delorean for sale! But he could not sell it, for any price!! My dad regrets not buying it when he had the chance.
I would have bought it as a static exhibit.
Well the Wizard just uncovered a BTTF movie flub. Showing us the gas tank is in the fronk. In BTTF3 they are refilling the gas tank with Whiskey (since there is no gasoline in 1885) and they show them filling it in the more traditional area on the rear quarter panel.
Back in 2000 or 2001 I was in El Paso Texas on a 3-day layover. One day walking from the airport to my hotel there was this little mom and pop used car dealership that had a manual DeLorean with right around 40,000 miles and they only wanted $7500 for it. If I had been there one more day I would have bought it and driven it back to Atlanta. (If it would have made it.😅)
like the Citroen DS, the DeLorean suffered from lack of power. Two of the best looking cars ever made.
My uncle put in all the fuel fillers/tank and lines in every DeLorean.
He did a good job! :)
I've talked to DeLorean owners before and they really do love their cars. They feel that a lot of the criticisms of the car are mostly made by people that have never owned one. DeLoreans are underpowered but probably more reliable than a new Chrysler or Jeep.
exactly right! thank you !
@@Delorean_Guy I meant being more reliable than Chrysler or Jeep.
Not the rest.
it would be awesome to see one of these ls-swapped
Then it would no longer be original. A car is only original once! :)
Love Mrs. Wizard jumping in with "No muffler Newton!". Hear it a lot and nobody calls it out.
Love this and the BRICKLIN
The 65-69 Corvair had the same speedometer set-up. Making a right-hand turn makes your speedometer read high.
"Heavy" 👍
One of those with a fuel injected 215 cubic inch GM aluminum block V - 8 like they put in the Olds F-85 would have made a great seller.
Peugeot had intended to compete with the Rover 3500 SD1.
Nice to see stainless steel on the new Cybertruck
It’s a true Time Machine, went decades back in time 😂
"Lou...Gimme a Milk...CHOCOLATE!"
"Lorraine, You are my Density.".... LoL.
What are the things I like about Mr car wizard is that he is a nostalgic nerd in the best possible sense🤓
If it's 304L stainless it will rust right up in salt water, or salty snowmelt. It will turn black instead of brown, but all the associated steel oxidation problems like rust jacking are still there. And there are still carbon steel parts under it that will rust out of existence.
I had a friend who bought one of these to fix up. It's slightly faster than a 3-cylinder Mirage. 1985 me was disappointed.
These cool cars go for big $$$$$. There is a place in Naples, Florida that do complete rebuilds and updates them for better performance and reliability.
Car Wizard, Happy New Year 2024
Beautiful car!
Happy thing! I hope your deal is healed
Love the flux 😊
They’ve probably gotten window stickers on now!
As for the GM in Flowood, they’ve most likely moved him to another dealership.
Find out where the new GM is from and yiu might just find the prior GM from Flowood there!
I’ve only seen one Delorean that wasn’t a movie recreation. I’m an 80s kid so I love these things
Thank God it's original!
A boosted J 3.5 with 6speed manual would liven this car right up and be pretty reliable 😊
For a second there I thought Alex was gonna walk in