Sawmilling What Sells! 3 Products From One Log and With Less Waste!
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
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Secrets of Sawmilling Pros - Making flat wood. Sawmills in Action! Make Money With a Sawmill! - Secrets of the Pros and showing Sawmills in Action! I'm Robert Milton, "The Sawmill Professor," a professional sawmiller and business owner who teaches sawmill tips and tricks to make your lumber as good as ours at Hobby Hardwood Alabama - ranked as producing the highest quality wood in Alabama, if not the country. / @hobbyhardwoodalabama . I am a retired aerospace engineer, my wife is a retired engineer at NASA, and we are a multimillion dollar, Dunn and Bradstreet listed, A+ rated BBB business. We used to build very high end houses and furniture using our lumber, but now sell it retail all over the country, and teach others to do the same.
We started with a chainsaw mill, upgraded to a portable manaul sawmill, then a production bandsaw mill. We are not a video company, but we are a real lumber company, and want to show others some of our money making and business sawmill techniques. This video is another example of sawmilling for our business, Hobby Hardwood, Alabama. We show how we mill logs, dry them and other things on our outdoor farm.
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"Charcuterie" is a French word meaning "prepared meat" or "cooked meat," referring mostly to deli meats like sausages, ham, terrine, confit, etc.
A charcuterie board is basically a serving platter for meats, cheeses, fruit, bread and so forth, tastefully arranged for your guests to snack on while waiting for dinner. I've seen some gorgeous boards made from live edge wood.
Thanks, good info, I think they have replaced the old school silver serving trays of the most part.
It’s fun to watch someone that knows what they are doing and makes it interesting for the rest of us.
Thanks!
I don't know if you will receive my comment. I started watching you last year sometime. I was a die hard Nathan Elliott watcher but then I found you. I will always be a fan of Nathan. I've learned allot from him. Now I've softener into a new level professional sawmill technique and that I am learning from you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have been using it as much as I can retain.. thank you
Nathan's a great guy, and thank you!
As a custom wood and metal designer/fabricator, I personally love using Walnut with sap wood in tables, chairs, benches and butches blocks. The contrast of the dark brown and the white sap wood can be stunning, like using White oak with cherry accents.
I understand there is a standard consistency market for solid heart wood, like in cabinetry and flooring, but I'm a huge fan of contrast applications of Sap and heart wood. If used correctly, it can add stunning character to a finished piece.
Yes, you are correct, sapwood is striking and we sell it as our calico walnut product. Some people love it. Zero sapwood one face is a huge demand product for us, as it is currently two grades above the current high grade defined by the NHLA, so we get a very high dollar for it and sell it as fast as we can produce it.
Great content mate
Thanks!
Mr. Milton: In another video you said you cannot keep cool despite wearing cotton tee shirts. Try this: buy an army surplus boonie hat / jungle hat. Get it in the largest size. Don't worry for now that it may be too big. You want it that way. Buy the one with heavy thick cotton duck. Do not buy the thin fabric hats or synthetic material. They won't hold much water. Soak the hat in cold water for a minute or so until it saturates. Do not wring it out. Put it on you head dripping wet. That will keep you cool for up to an hour or more, depending in the day's heat and humidity. When it ceases cooling your head soak it again, etc. A good boonie hat costs ~ $15, well worth it on a hot day. Evaporation makes it work. On hot days when others are sweating to death, no one will ask who is the old fool with a dripping wet hat on his head.
You owe me big for this one . . . .
Thanks, I appreciate the comments.
We love selling Charcuterie boards! In the past, we have finished them and sold them as a finished board around Christmas time. This year we are thinking of selling the boards for folks to make their own Charcuterie Boards. Knowing you have build your business slowly over the years, here is my question for the Professor. We currently have an LT40Wide with just a 26.5 hp Koehler. With two people helping unload the mill as one person runs the mill, we can hit 300- 400 board feet per hour, so not bad. At the moment the sawmill is outside, so we are limited to dry days to mill. We putting up a roof over the sawmill next week, which will automatically increase weekly productivity. It has been raining like crazy here in Georgia. After the building is up and we have settled in, we are considering upgrading sawmills. We have looked at the LT50 because it would fit in our budget. With the difference in cost between the LT50 and the LT70, we could purchase another Nyle kiln (we currently have 2 L200M's and 1 L200Pro ). We currently mill and kiln dry as a service and do not really sell any product (apart from Charcuterie boards). Our thought process is to grow with the LT50 and as the cash flow increases, upgrade in a few years to the LT70. What are your thoughts on the LT50 vs the LT70? Is it worth jumping to the LT70? We are worried the LT70 will mill past our current kiln capacity.
I have used both, and the LT50 is a good mill. However, it can't hold a candle to an LT70, with engine driven hydraulics which are 6 times faster than an LT40. You might be interested to know I had to make the same decision, and my conclusion was that yes a 70 would produce more wood than I could dry through my kilns, but that it would allow me to reach my production goal in much less time. So when I mill enough wood to "feed my kilns", as I call it, as I reach my daily quota, I can turn the mill off and do something else. So instead off me sawing all day, every day, I can saw as much wood in half the time, turn the mill of, and use my free time elsewhere in the business. So instead of 400 bdft per hour, you can hit 1,000 (I did a video where by myself I hit 1200 bdft per hour to prove to people that I could do it). So the question is, would getting a more expensive mill with twice the production, which allows you to cut enough to feed your kilns in half the time be worth it? Then use you new free time for other uses? In my case it was a big "YES!" and I would never go back to a lower level production mill. Very good question, and I should make a video on the subject.
@@HobbyHardwoodAlabama Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. You have given me a lot to think about.
Enjoy you sharing your knowledge of trees and milling, I learn a lot watching your show.
Thanks for watching!
Great video again Robert. I’ve always noticed but never asked- your wood is wet when stacked: curious if you treat with a forestry borate product. Here in central Texas, it’s a requirement on many species or the longhorn beetle will make you regret it. Would love to hear about your experience with wood boring insects and thanks in advance!
The borate products are known (classed) as possible reproductive hazards in humans so I stopped using them altogether many years ago.
Ol Chip has it rough 😂
Yes, he works too hard.....
The Professor is the gateway into a mystery world few woodworkers consider and much fewer understand. Each visit is enlightening. This video again demonstrates how market awareness alters material usability. With The Professor's long video library of detailed instructions on premium cutting top grade lumber, why so few people take advantage with similar videos. I can only hope that many do so and are too busy cutting to make videos. In the dry Southwest where I live lumber is available but humidity and shrinkage issues severely limit its use. Shame that. Perhaps, this is why I so much value Professor's videos.
I appreciate it, a lot of the pro sawyers I know don't have time and don't want to deal with all the video stuff and certainly don't want to risk giving away their secrets. I already have an established business and have come to find out that most of my competitors fall into the "who cares how good the wood is as long as some sucker buys it" which is totally offensive to me and screws customers. So much of my videos are watched by my current and future customers to give them some education onto what the difference is between good wood iss, and garbage produced by sawyers who just want to peddle crap. I get rewarded when custumers come in and say they went to so and so and could just look at the wood and tell it was sawn wrong. So I make videos to educate sawyers who want to get better, and also to educate customers so they can tell when they are buying garbage wood.
Thank you for the learning. Hello from Fla.
You are welcome!
good video and job really nice walnut. a few people want walnut sap wood i don't know what they are using it for. take care, be safe and well
Thanks, and you are correct, most people do not like sapwood on their walnut, and thats is our main product, zero sap, zero knot, best walnut in the country. However, some people like the sapwood streaks to offset the sometimes overly dark "lawyers office" look of a pure heartwood piece of furniture, so we sell a little sapwood walnut for trim to brighten the pieces of furniture up. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Great video, sound advice! Thank you for taking the time to put it together.
My pleasure!
Really enjoy watching your videos, I’m a woodworker in Colorado. Wish you were closer, you saw great stuff.
Come on by sometime!
Thank you Robert, love you, your work, and your teaching! Keep then coming! Still would love to see your sticker secrets! You have so much knowledge that I am sure I could be doing sickers better too! Thanks again
It's coming soon, I'll be doing the first step, the making and strategy of making pallets for air drying first.
i enjoy learning how to saw
Glad you enjoy it!
Thanks for the informative videos, enjoy watching. We will be visiting soon to get more hard maple for another cabinet project.
Sounds great!
Love your videos, i have so much to learn!
Glad you like them!
Ty so thats why yo cut thru the pith sometimes. Glad you cleared up for us
Yes, it’s just faster to blow through it than stop and eject it.
Thank you again Robert for another entertaining and educational video. Watching your channels content answers so many of my hobbyist curiosity about which cuts are best for what type of my projects. This is the first time I have had the privilege to visibly peer into the enhanced "inner sanctum" at Hobby Hardwoods. I was expecting at any moment the wizard would appear from behind the curtain, in this case it would be a stack of boards. I will Definity have to visit you the next trip to Huntsville to see my daughter, granddaughter, and great-grandson. Dang, Robert, my kids are making me seem old. Working in the rain, to me, is as normal as fishing and hunting in the rain, less people to bother me, Hello from Ken down in Mobile.
Heck yeah, come on down and I'll take you down the yellow brick road...
Very good information
Thanks!
Great video.
Thanks!
Amen to this video.
Thanks!
Awesome job as usual...
Thanks again!
What type of timber sells the most Robert is it oak or pine
It depends on the location, here, in North Alabama, you can’t give pine logs away, and in the pine belts, oak is low value.
Great videos 👍
Thanks!
Always enjoy the humor and also the educational aspect of the videos as well and I also have a question. I was going to ask this question sooner but wanted to wait until you had ran the mill for a while after the modification. I was wondering if you have had any issues with alignment since you welded the feet on your drag back fingers?
No the feet are all good, zero bad. I've been installing and running dragback shoes on all my mills for maybe 15 years or so by now, including my old LT40. I know people who have put these with a few mods on Bakers and Cooks, and they always work. They are huge work savers.
@@HobbyHardwoodAlabama 10-4 and thanks for the reply.
I really enjoyed this video! It's so interesting to see 3 products come from one log. I've only really thought about what dimensions I can get out of a log - this video blew my mind!
I've seen 6x6 posts (sold by big box stores) with the pith smack dab in the center of the post… What happens structurally to a post like that over time? Does it hold up because it's a 6x6 vs a 1 or 2 inch thick board? Thank you for all of your content😊
Typically, a center cut post like that will always crack and twist, but generally not structurally fail, if of no other reason that the loads put on dimensional lumber is far below it's true load carrying capacity, and so even a defective post will handle the load. The biggest issue with those pith centered boards is when they crack and open up, they bow and twist and if in a building will make the walls and ceiling "not straight anymore." I should do a video on this, good comment.
Yes, a video on this topic would probably help a lot of us! Thank you for your thoughtful response😊
Hey Robert,
If you have a cant on the sawmill that is 8” thick and 12” wide. If you rotate that cant 90 degree so it was 12” thick and 8” wide, does the woodmizer recognize the new height of the cant so it will drop to make your first 4/4 board? Or do you have to line up with the top of the new cant height and then drop down 4/4? Hopefully that makes sense lol
Thanks!
Sawing one of God Jehovahs greatest creations, trees! He sure made some purdy stuff and very smart people like you to saw it up!
I agree about the trees, and I’m always amazed when I see what’s inside.
Although I’m not a sawmill owner, I like to toy with that idea in my mind sometimes. Here’s two questions I have: (1) How did you build your business and (2) Why don’t we ever see customers on site??
Basically we used to build very high end homes and could never find decent wood for the furniture and interiors, so just started doing it ourselves. Kind of like a professional chef having to raise his own beef or vegetables because all the wood I could buy was garbage. When we stopped building houses 22 years ago, people asked us to start selling the super high grade lumber that we produced to them, and the business was a born. The answer to the second question is easy, I did film a couple videos with customers in the background (since long ago deleted) and one or two of the customers saw themselves, and started complaining that I wasn't paying them royalty percenatges off the videos, thinking I was getting big money from them! FYI, I make maybe $10 to $30 off each video, if you are wondering. However, they thought I made thousands! Nope. One guy said I needed to get written permission from him before I put the video out, and I needed to pay for that! I never looked into it, I think it was all BS, but either way, it was not what I wanted to deal with on any level. I also had one guy say "put the camera away" because he has a "checkered" past and didn't want people to see him on the web. Jeeezzz! So then I reacted (maybe over reacted?) in my typical way, and made the decision to never have people besides my family in the videos, and I don't have to worry about it anymore. Sad but true.
The only time one needs permission to film is when there’s an expectation of privacy, such as a bathroom or bedroom. Celebrities that walk around in public have their photos taken relentlessly, are never compensated for it, and interestingly enough do not have any rights to use or duplicate the photos taken of them, as some celebrities have learned the hard way by selling merch using photos taken by paparazzi without permission.
If you were filming private property that is publicly accessible where a “policy” is in place to disallow filming, they cannot actually stop you from filming and have no right to touch you or your camera. Instead, they must ask you to leave the property and then call the police to Trespass you. Walmart has learned this the hard way multiple times.
Lastly, you can film any area - even private property, provided that you are doing it from public property. As an example, I can stand on the road and film inside of a Walmart through their glass doors, no matter what their policy is. The only exception to this is again areas where privacy is expected and some effort to that effect has been maintained; you cannot as an example use magnets to move the blinds aside so you can film inside a bedroom. Fun fact, the air is public property, so drones are fair game.
Long story short, the only way to legally assure you cannot legally be filmed is to stay in your own house with all blinds and doors and shut.
*Wood* love to know what causes the chatter (see what I did there😂
I’m struggling with it and it’s throughout of my cuts. I’m just a milling for myself.
Me too!
I will try to do a video on it, chatter is pretty easy to fix and pretty predictable.
@@HobbyHardwoodAlabama THANK YOU!
Where do you guys find so much walnut?Is it black, and do they have groves close by?
It is hard to come by, but it grows native here, in the woods.
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Thanks
Do you read comments on videos more than a day old?
I read each and every comment, no matter how old. I may not answer every one, but I certainly read them all. I addition, I have the RUclips comment filter set to display comments to me that fit the criteria "I haven't responded."
@@HobbyHardwoodAlabama impressive
I reckon it's a hobby until you get paid. You can do a lot of work and make a lot of products, but if you don't sell it, it doesn't mean much. I grabbed my phone when yours started ringing. We're trained like Pavlov's dogs. Ooh, I see you're added a fan behind the mill operator!!! Calico walnut? That's a new one on me. I thought it was a cat?
It's funny, Martha came up with the name "Calico Walnut" as a way to sell our bi color, heavy sapwood boards, and remember how I told you we get "copied' by our competitors? Well there is another lumber store in town that opened a year or two ago, that is now selling "Calico Walnut."
think it is a made up word . did you make that table in the building ?
No, a customer with a laser engraver did it (the different wood species are laser engraved on the table as a way to show customers what the wood they are buying will look like), but we did some of the fine tuning and put on the epoxy finish.
I watched the program about the sawers' convention. It looked like being a sawer is a male thing. Do you know of any female sawers?
There is a sister's Sawyer RUclips channel company. There are Definitely women sawyers.
There are not that many, unfortunately. However, I do know women sawyers and wood workers who are all top tier, and I welcome anyone who wants to pursue sawmilling as a career. My wife, Martha, is probably the best secondary lumber processor I know, she could run a sawmill no problem, but prefers the Straight Line Rip saw.
I think the first is "shar".
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Cheers, Doc.
Could be! Got to add a little southern slang to it, also. Good to hear from you.
Truly enjoy watching and listening to your videos Professor Milton! You are a valuable source of information. My sons and I are considering getting a sawmill.
These are eye-opening Videos for us to soak in your information to make the decision whether to make the jump and get into it or not. Thank you very much for all your well guided knowledge.