It's the same thing she says when you're playing Pointdevice mode, since you technically haven't been hit by the time you reach her in that case either. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the "canon" route of LoLK, according to ZUN, is a Reimu Legacy Mode no-miss clear. It definitely isn't a Sanae Poindevice run, at the very least.
The only other touhou game i know that detects scrub play(no other way of saying it,not native english speaker)is SoEW.Marisa says how many times you've continued,and both Mima and Genji accuse you that you're weak(continued).Can't remember if the other games did this. Oh,and also Yuuka stops you from progressing in LLS if you continued.ZUN went too far,lose a life=bad ending,but you still get extra stage access if you 1cc.
@@dirtkiller23 Sakuya stops you from accessing Stage 6 in EoSD if you're on Easy. Not sure if that counts as detecting scrub play but I figured I might was well add it
With Reisen her point device/no death dialogue is basically the exact opposite: "what were they thinking sending a mere soldier to face me, there's no way you can win."
@@dirtkiller23 In HSiFS, Okina says that you're "disqualified" if you use a continue before getting to her but lets you fight her since the heroine insists on it.
Junko: "I'l just f-ing kill you" Spell Card Rules: "No you won't, there must be at least a slight chance for them to dodge" Junko: "Who are you to tell a goddess what to do?!" Spell Card Rules: "A cosmic force beyond the gods themselves, now _behave_ " Junko: >:(
Because of this, her spell cards look more natural and seem like they’re straight up trying to kill you with no other precautions of beauty, thoughtfulness, and mercy.
It doesn’t feel unique to me- it feels like someone’s first attempt at a Danmaku script. And coming from someone who’s been at this for around 20 years at this point, it just feels lazy. I forget who exactly said this, but I completely agree with them when hey said that Junko’s an amazing character who deserves to be in the manga and has no place in the games themself.
Exactly. Junko doesn’t want to toy with you, distract you with pretty patterns, or use gimmicks, she just wants to kill you, and I wish people would respect that that’s why ZUN made her spellcards so simplistic
We need this stage after Clownpiece, the stage music is so relaxing, Junko has a very tragic story and her simple attacks need prescition, she knows that 80% of the bullets are useless, or at least they represent purity, or maybe she is trying to make you confident so you get really frustrated when you loose but great when you passe it... I love this game
Speaking of Junko, I'm surprised that she is one of the most controversial bosses in the series. Some people praise her for her simplicity/trying to kill you gimmick while others seem to hate her for her "boring" patterns. My honest and unpopular opinion: how is simplicity so beautiful and pure? I mean look at her patterns ;;; Speaking of which, congrats on clearing all 6 stages with just one life left. This was a ride. Onwards to Extra stage!
Fun fact: Junko's final spell "Pure Sign [Purely Bullet Hell]" is the only spell in Normal difficulty to be part of a spell type (ie. "Purely Bullet Hell" is part of the spell type "Pure Sign"). None of Junko's other spells are part of a spell type.
Last time I bombed a lot in a touhou game is trying to 1CC SoHW on normal with ruyokoB (the game has very lenient deathbomb timing window, so lenient that I could do it consistently half asleep)
One year ago I only knew touhou from one single song called U.N owen was her later I searched up touhou and found out it was a bullet hell game When I searched up to see what games could I play the first thing I saw was Touhou 15 I listened to one song on its soundtrack and got hooked Not noticing it was one of the hardest mainline games I played it and almost quit but I pushed through and beat 15 Here I am 1 year later now knowing a lot more about touhou and beat 6-8 15-18 I am wondering WHY OUT OF ALL THE SONGS IN TOUHOU THE FIRST ONE I HEARD WAS PURE FURIES if it wasn't for those Pure trumpets I wouldn't have chosen 15 as my first game. I only have slight regrets
Just curious... did Junko ever learn that Chang’e drank the hourai medicine? If not, her revenge plan will... kinda be for nothing for one thing, and her phrase “my mortal enemy, Chang’e” is a bit ironic since... you know
About 46 times, a bit more if you consider how many quick resets from a stupid death before Seiran's first spell card. Also not counting the many hours spent on Clownpice and Junko in practice mode.
3:13 , my logic for junko not having a title is that she’s the definition of purification, even her danmaku is. it’d only make sense if she has no title at all
I wonder if the dialog changes if you get to junk without getting hit update. it absolutly does. she basically says "you got here without dying once?! well theres no way i can even attempt to win but im going to try anyway."
Taking "Though Unable to Dwell Together Under Heaven" literally be like... Tenshi: "The hell is going on down there" (Also I would've loved to see how your editor's and your comments on the Pointdevice/No-Miss-Legacy pre-boss Junko dialogue)
As a hard player, the difficulty was just your everyday stage 2 to stage 3 of any game. I wonder how hard lunatic could get. I've only completed EoSD, PoFV, SA, TD, DDC.
But there isn't a good english patch for 15.5, right? Maybe now we will have another fangame while waiting for the patch Or just going into 16 and wait for 15.5 (but that would feel kinda... strange, right?)
Hey, Omega! Remember when I told you about The Dissapearing of Gensokyo about a year or so ago? Apparently the game released this January and it's on Steam (and seems to be only in japanese, but some people are playing it on English, like in this video ruclips.net/video/_NRpX4PJBUA/видео.html, so I assume that there is a patch somewehere). However, the reason why I'm typing this now is because, since I'm subscribed to the Nintendo chanel, I get their trailers in my subscription feed and when THIS showed up for the Switch (ruclips.net/video/lHMwHF-0BXg/видео.html) I said "I gotta tell Omega". Seems like something out of Pokemon Mystery World. Your thoughts? Edit: typo
Ah yeah, I've seen a bunch of stuff on Genso Wanderer. Aqua Style puts out some seriously good stuff. However I've never really gotten much into Pokemon Mystery Dungeon styled rouge-likes. Honestly rouge-likes in general annoy me a bit as well... And Dissapearing of Gensokyo looks friggin' amazing... just really wish I had more free time to sit down and play it...
*Subtle hint to place The Dissapearing of Gensokyo on the fan games rotation* I mean, I know it's gotta be crowded by now, but we're gonna reach the point at which we'll run out of official games to play and they'll be some time to fill up in between releases...
2nd Proposed Title: The mother who dwells in impurity and despair: Junko P.S. The despair part is a reference to Junko Enoshima as they have the same first name
Oguzhan Gungor They have a reason of why they are like that , she doesnt try to be beautiful or anything , she wants to kill you , and avenge the death of her son .
I get that but as a boss fight still boring to look at, also you could get that emotion with a good looking pattern too just make it a vicious design. A good example of telling a story and still having fun fight would be something like in megaman zero where the final boss constantly shakes (which is creepy as fuck btw) and his moves are not really aimed at you. Hell he even has a teleport move where he randomly moves slightly to the lest. It is supposed to show that he is unable to control himself. Or a side quest in trails in the sky where the enemies in that quest are either scared and waste their turn , are confused and literally inflict themselves with confuse status or just run to the other side randomly. This is supposed to be a warning to whats gonna happen later in that chapter , since animals have higher instincts and are good with sensing danger and whatnot. Junko just feels lazy. You can do the whole I am going to end you thing without making the pattern a single line with pixel perfect dodging.
I like how if you reach Junko without dying she actually says something like "well, shit, no way I'm beating you but might as well try".
It's the same thing she says when you're playing Pointdevice mode, since you technically haven't been hit by the time you reach her in that case either. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the "canon" route of LoLK, according to ZUN, is a Reimu Legacy Mode no-miss clear. It definitely isn't a Sanae Poindevice run, at the very least.
The only other touhou game i know that detects scrub play(no other way of saying it,not native english speaker)is SoEW.Marisa says how many times you've continued,and both Mima and Genji accuse you that you're weak(continued).Can't remember if the other games did this.
Oh,and also Yuuka stops you from progressing in LLS if you continued.ZUN went too far,lose a life=bad ending,but you still get extra stage access if you 1cc.
@@dirtkiller23 Sakuya stops you from accessing Stage 6 in EoSD if you're on Easy. Not sure if that counts as detecting scrub play but I figured I might was well add it
With Reisen her point device/no death dialogue is basically the exact opposite: "what were they thinking sending a mere soldier to face me, there's no way you can win."
@@dirtkiller23 In HSiFS, Okina says that you're "disqualified" if you use a continue before getting to her but lets you fight her since the heroine insists on it.
memes aside, that “chang’e are you watching?!” line is a pretty badass line to say right before the fight starts
Why must the editor's puns be so _pure?_ Please don't be _furious_ at me for doing this.
Because he makes puns _purely_ for the fun of it. Or so I assume.
I hate you all...
We love you too, Omega. Nothin' but pure love from us.
I got some great Lulz out of this thread. So Pure!!
No need to get *furious* Omega, those comments are *purely* out of love for your content. Keep up the good work!
Junko: "I'l just f-ing kill you"
Spell Card Rules: "No you won't, there must be at least a slight chance for them to dodge"
Junko: "Who are you to tell a goddess what to do?!"
Spell Card Rules: "A cosmic force beyond the gods themselves, now _behave_ "
Junko: >:(
The cosmic force in question:
_some broke shrine maiden_
>ZUN
(Purity of 99% alcohol)
Junko will make it 100% pure alcohol.
@@explosivemodesonicmauricet1597 that’s just ethanol
It’s not even beer anymore
technically this battle took place *outside* of Gensokyo border. Spell card rules don't apply there.
Well shit
That explain why junko thinks she can just kill the protagonist
@@toonlink1723 i think it's because she is the literal incarnation of hatred.
Because of this, her spell cards look more natural and seem like they’re straight up trying to kill you with no other precautions of beauty, thoughtfulness, and mercy.
i have to love how Junko's sprite is so large it actually shows that boss sprites are layered between the backdrop and value counter
I don't care what people say, i love Junko as character and boss
Her simpleness makes her fight unique
Lunartic Skele-bone after the madness of stage 5, I completely agree. The only thing I dont like is her last spellcard because it starts really slow
It doesn’t feel unique to me- it feels like someone’s first attempt at a Danmaku script. And coming from someone who’s been at this for around 20 years at this point, it just feels lazy. I forget who exactly said this, but I completely agree with them when hey said that Junko’s an amazing character who deserves to be in the manga and has no place in the games themself.
@@timmyreobed5043 shrek appearance in touhou manga
Exactly. Junko doesn’t want to toy with you, distract you with pretty patterns, or use gimmicks, she just wants to kill you, and I wish people would respect that that’s why ZUN made her spellcards so simplistic
We need this stage after Clownpiece, the stage music is so relaxing, Junko has a very tragic story and her simple attacks need prescition, she knows that 80% of the bullets are useless, or at least they represent purity, or maybe she is trying to make you confident so you get really frustrated when you loose but great when you passe it... I love this game
Speaking of Junko, I'm surprised that she is one of the most controversial bosses in the series. Some people praise her for her simplicity/trying to kill you gimmick while others seem to hate her for her "boring" patterns.
My honest and unpopular opinion: how is simplicity so beautiful and pure? I mean look at her patterns ;;;
Speaking of which, congrats on clearing all 6 stages with just one life left. This was a ride. Onwards to Extra stage!
0:56
Me, an artist and emotional person: those are tears...
Also me, an intellectual individual: The witch is now approaching Warp Factor 5
Junko's tear ?
Fun fact:
Junko's final spell "Pure Sign [Purely Bullet Hell]" is the only spell in Normal difficulty to be part of a spell type (ie. "Purely Bullet Hell" is part of the spell type "Pure Sign"). None of Junko's other spells are part of a spell type.
7:46
"And suddenly curvy lasers, because...
*Fuck you.* "
Had me _Wheeze_ for a long time : )
Unironically her easiest spellcard
Yes curvy lasers are the easiest
I don't think I've seen you bomb so many times in one game. Not since PCB.
Gabriel Wright-Dunn the last time he bombed that many times was on “Scarlet Gensokyo”
Last time I bombed a lot in a touhou game is trying to 1CC SoHW on normal with ruyokoB (the game has very lenient deathbomb timing window, so lenient that I could do it consistently half asleep)
Your video was a massive help on the part with the blue lines and red stars. I never did it without bombs before seeing your video.
This is it, the end of the road and it’s never looked so dangerous and beautiful yet.
One year ago I only knew touhou from one single song called U.N owen was her later I searched up touhou and found out it was a bullet hell game
When I searched up to see what games could I play the first thing I saw was Touhou 15
I listened to one song on its soundtrack and got hooked
Not noticing it was one of the hardest mainline games I played it and almost quit but I pushed through and beat 15
Here I am 1 year later now knowing a lot more about touhou and beat 6-8 15-18
I am wondering WHY OUT OF ALL THE SONGS IN TOUHOU THE FIRST ONE I HEARD WAS PURE FURIES if it wasn't for those Pure trumpets I wouldn't have chosen 15 as my first game.
I only have slight regrets
>Chooses marisa
>Biggest mistake
I really thought that Junko would say "I made a _pure clown_ out of you from my _fury_". I'd say the Editor made up more than that for it.
I always wonder how do you always manage to beat the games without ANY single live at the end? It's that just pure coincidence?
did you just
@@dawk7 It took me 9 fucking month to get this!!! WOW!
Jesus christ, just how bullet packed is the extra stage gonna be? There's so many bullets here already!
Junko would like to speak to your manager.
3:58 theme starts
Holy cow Editor is in top form today!
Good Job! I love these so much!!! Please do Hidden Star next!
Just curious... did Junko ever learn that Chang’e drank the hourai medicine? If not, her revenge plan will... kinda be for nothing for one thing, and her phrase “my mortal enemy, Chang’e” is a bit ironic since... you know
Sorry for any spoilers if you guys don’t know her, please don’t flake me 😓
I will ask again honestly , how many , precisely or how many time did it take you to record the six stages 1cc.
About 46 times, a bit more if you consider how many quick resets from a stupid death before Seiran's first spell card.
Also not counting the many hours spent on Clownpice and Junko in practice mode.
It's Normal Mode, right? I wonder what will this fight look like in Lunatic 😖
No, don't.
*_its too hard for one._*
@@yamahadx7synthesiser 1cc...
Actually normal mode is harder than lunatic mode
@@oraculoobeso9939 how was your 1cc in Lunatic?
@@solarissolar5253 suffer
Unpopular opinion: I think Junko’s pristine lunacy spell card is like that one Nue spell card but harder.
You helped me so much, thank you
1:10 The grazing sound effect actually matches with the music. I'm not sure if it's intentional
Advice: dodge the thing. Good stuff.
(I can't imagine how difficult it must've been to not be boring with commentary here lol)
Wait...Junko's first attack is Gengetsu's first attack!
3:13 , my logic for junko not having a title is that she’s the definition of purification, even her danmaku is. it’d only make sense if she has no title at all
I like to have junko with the title "Incarnation of Simplicity, Purity, and Despair"
Hmmmm since you almost complete LoLK, are ya gonna play fangames (or others) first until thpatch fully complete AoCF? Or just go play AoCF
I wonder if the dialog changes if you get to junk without getting hit
update. it absolutly does. she basically says "you got here without dying once?! well theres no way i can even attempt to win but im going to try anyway."
There are two more Touhou games for that. Good luck for that.
1:14 : Ah ! No ! Wrong way ! I'M GONNA DIE SH*T SH*T SH*T SH*T SH*T AAAAaaahh ... ? Oh... I survived... that was close
Oh god.
I guess you could say that the extra mode is going to be
Hell >-> (end me later plz)
11:25 You actually can unlock Extra with Legacy Mode ending (I did this). Also, as ZUN stated, both endings are good.
5:13 that is the best bad joke I’ve ever read
Even Marisa realizes Clownpiece is bulls***... -MegamanOmega
Taking "Though Unable to Dwell Together Under Heaven" literally be like...
Tenshi: "The hell is going on down there"
(Also I would've loved to see how your editor's and your comments on the Pointdevice/No-Miss-Legacy pre-boss Junko dialogue)
I have been stuck on "Easy" mode at the stage, "Trembling, shivering star", dying constantly for over an hour... Ugh... This fucking game...
Am I the only one who hear... _shadows_ of "U.N. Owen was her" in both themes of this stage ?
No, I can hear the theme. It's a remix of the particular main melody that's in my opinion much better utilized here.
please share a no comentary run of this one
I have 3 bombs at the end of the game and yet struggle to find a place to use them. (this is my first Touhou game)
You probably could have done this whole game better with Reisen tbh
I mean a bomb that gives you extra hits is just too much to pass by
But the price of that is that her hitbox grows, so it's not as good against Junko. At least it keeps it more fair.
As a hard player, the difficulty was just your everyday stage 2 to stage 3 of any game. I wonder how hard lunatic could get. I've only completed EoSD, PoFV, SA, TD, DDC.
Really? Either play on Point Device mode or not dying once to unlock extra strage and good ending? That's mean in a good way
i like your video thank you
Imagine if the 2.0 system was in LoLK
ez
I wonder after touhou 15 what comes next 15.5 or 16
15.5 judging from the pattern so far
woops misunderstood
But there isn't a good english patch for 15.5, right?
Maybe now we will have another fangame while waiting for the patch
Or just going into 16 and wait for 15.5 (but that would feel kinda... strange, right?)
Agreed
the patch for 15.5 isn't complete yet (my th patch is updating every now and then:/)
The angriest Touhou game, in more ways than one
CHANG'E R U WATCHING
ボムの抱え落ちは勿体無い
_hec_
Welp, just pointdevice mode cleared this game with Reisen and can say opening it was a fucking mistake. Graze Inferno took over 100 tries.
Junko's dialogue is completely different if you get to her without dying.
Or in pointdevice
Your deaths literally don't happen in PointDevice. Thanks, Eirin!
Man I thought Undertale was hard enough of a bullet hell for me but WHAT is this
Then you don't know a *true* bullet hell
Matroid C No, and I thank God for that
Lol Sans looks easier than a Stage 2 on Lunatic.
Hey, Omega! Remember when I told you about The Dissapearing of Gensokyo about a year or so ago? Apparently the game released this January and it's on Steam (and seems to be only in japanese, but some people are playing it on English, like in this video ruclips.net/video/_NRpX4PJBUA/видео.html, so I assume that there is a patch somewehere).
However, the reason why I'm typing this now is because, since I'm subscribed to the Nintendo chanel, I get their trailers in my subscription feed and when THIS showed up for the Switch (ruclips.net/video/lHMwHF-0BXg/видео.html) I said "I gotta tell Omega". Seems like something out of Pokemon Mystery World.
Your thoughts?
Edit: typo
Ah yeah, I've seen a bunch of stuff on Genso Wanderer. Aqua Style puts out some seriously good stuff. However I've never really gotten much into Pokemon Mystery Dungeon styled rouge-likes. Honestly rouge-likes in general annoy me a bit as well...
And Dissapearing of Gensokyo looks friggin' amazing... just really wish I had more free time to sit down and play it...
*Subtle hint to place The Dissapearing of Gensokyo on the fan games rotation*
I mean, I know it's gotta be crowded by now, but we're gonna reach the point at which we'll run out of official games to play and they'll be some time to fill up in between releases...
rogue-likes*
Even here... really BX... really... (눈_눈)
(¬‿¬)
Yes
Proposed Title: Interstellar Angry Karen: Junko
2nd Proposed Title: The mother who dwells in impurity and despair: Junko
P.S. The despair part is a reference to Junko Enoshima as they have the same first name
Another title proposal:
Space Karen
-It's in the plainest, simplest and purest form.-
Okina Matara makes Junko look like a joke
☯️LimitlessPro☯️ no
Junko is Okina Matara
1:57
D':
Ugh junko easily my least favorite final boss and character in the series.
Why least?
look at those patterns man they are boring to look at!
Oguzhan Gungor
They have a reason of why they are like that , she doesnt try to be beautiful or anything , she wants to kill you , and avenge the death of her son .
I get that but as a boss fight still boring to look at, also you could get that emotion with a good looking pattern too just make it a vicious design.
A good example of telling a story and still having fun fight would be something like in megaman zero where the final boss constantly shakes (which is creepy as fuck btw) and his moves are not really aimed at you. Hell he even has a teleport move where he randomly moves slightly to the lest. It is supposed to show that he is unable to control himself.
Or a side quest in trails in the sky where the enemies in that quest are either scared and waste their turn , are confused and literally inflict themselves with confuse status or just run to the other side randomly. This is supposed to be a warning to whats gonna happen later in that chapter , since animals have higher instincts and are good with sensing danger and whatnot.
Junko just feels lazy. You can do the whole I am going to end you thing without making the pattern a single line with pixel perfect dodging.
Oguzhan Gungor
See her power .