1987 Sterling 825 SL | Retro Review

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    For those intrigued at the idea of some British luxury mixed with their Japanese reliability, we salute you.
    Show 613 | Originally Recorded 2-10-1987
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  • @Motorweek
    @Motorweek  3 года назад +14

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    • @nickmotsarsky4382
      @nickmotsarsky4382 3 года назад +6

      Isn't that what RUclips ad revenue is for?

    • @chrisp679
      @chrisp679 3 года назад +1

      Public television show.

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      @xnopyt13 3 года назад

      talldude123 yep, way better than the link they have now.

    • @xnopyt13
      @xnopyt13 3 года назад +1

      Nick Motsarsky these videos are probably too short to generate much.

    • @JoeUrbanYYC
      @JoeUrbanYYC 3 года назад +1

      Done!

  • @spencerbrayall8678
    @spencerbrayall8678 3 года назад +163

    The optimism and hope in these retro reviews always gets me.

    • @lucashenderson2775
      @lucashenderson2775 3 года назад +17

      I love how his harshest criticism particularly in the 80s and 90s always seems to be the lack of an electrical or oil gauge on a car, but if he finds one like in this car, he loves it.

    • @basshead.
      @basshead. 3 года назад +16

      They still sugarcoat everything.

    • @spencerbrayall8678
      @spencerbrayall8678 3 года назад +3

      @@basshead. especially if the car is American.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 3 года назад +5

      @@spencerbrayall8678 yeah they loved the Pontiac T-1000 (Chevette clone) even if it did 0-60 in 30 seconds because.......it's AMERICAN MADE!!!

  • @jonathankleinow2073
    @jonathankleinow2073 3 года назад +265

    Just what every Honda needs: Lucas electrical systems.

    • @Banom7a
      @Banom7a 3 года назад +60

      the most reliable rover or the most unreliable honda.

    • @peter455sd
      @peter455sd 3 года назад +9

      Hahahaha

    • @mrivera1
      @mrivera1 3 года назад +9

      You can’t have 100% reliability…gotta water it down a little bit…or a lot.

    • @frankdenardo8684
      @frankdenardo8684 3 года назад +1

      @@Banom7a Honda cars are always reliable.

    • @Banom7a
      @Banom7a 3 года назад +23

      @@frankdenardo8684 British: we can make a honda unreliable, observe

  • @dawge30
    @dawge30 3 года назад +163

    Man, I miss seeing cars like this on the road. Virtually no one knows what a Sterling or a Merkur is anymore...

    • @eddieg6436
      @eddieg6436 3 года назад +12

      My aunt in Newport Beach, California had a Merkur XR4 ti !!

    • @profoundgenius9726
      @profoundgenius9726 3 года назад +6

      I remember seeing a sterling in San Francisco back in 2007 and thinking “what kind of Honda Accord is that?”

    • @ralphpolo8612
      @ralphpolo8612 3 года назад +3

      @Black Conservative Patriot these cars were popular in nj where i grew up..they even had a hatchback lookin sterling too

    • @slimshadyjr9889
      @slimshadyjr9889 3 года назад +12

      Doug DeMuro should definitely review a Sterling and a Merkur. His most recent video is a review of a Geo Metro convertible

    • @Nordwestkreuzer
      @Nordwestkreuzer 3 года назад +3

      I thought I know every American car brand and every model that was sold in the US. But I never knew that Rover sold their cars in America (under the lable of Sterling) 😳

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 3 года назад +73

    Yes, John mistakenly said "burred walnut" instead of "burled walnut". The late '80s were a time of imports coming to the U.S. under weird names: Rovers badged as Sterling, German Fords badged as Merkur, Renaults badged as Eagle, Fiats badged as Bertone and Pininfarina, Citroëns badged as CX Auto, and even a Korean-built Daewoo copy of the German Opel Kadett badged as the Pontiac LeMans!

    • @buggs9950
      @buggs9950 3 года назад +5

      Yep. Burled means the same thing in American English as Burred in English, erm, English.
      BTW in the UK we had Daewoo's badged as Cheverolet's. That was due to a corporate takeover but we get a lot of stuff re-badged for tax reasons; The VW Hilux for example..

    • @Random-nf7qb
      @Random-nf7qb 3 года назад

      @@buggs9950 The VW Taro wasn't UK-only.
      Tbh, I haven't seen one outside Greece

    • @buggs9950
      @buggs9950 3 года назад +1

      @@Random-nf7qb Oh really? I didn't know that, thanks.

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman 2 года назад

      And some Isuzu’s badged as Chevrolet, LUV, and Geo Storm and don’t forget about the Mitsubishi vehicles labeled as Dodge.

    • @boss12
      @boss12 2 года назад +1

      The Mitsubishi Dodge Challenger Galant

  • @matthewbowen5841
    @matthewbowen5841 3 года назад +82

    The Motor Week theme song literally makes me reflexively smile. John and the crew have spent 35+ years making life a little more enjoyable, and that's even more true today. Here's hoping you guys never go out of style!
    Also pretty upset that "Anti-Skid System" lost out to "Antilock Braking System" as the preferred name for that tech. Imagine all of the millions of GMs with the ABS badges and center caps...

    • @hellkitty1014
      @hellkitty1014 3 года назад +5

      😆😆😂😂😂😂 And on the trunklid.

    • @compu85
      @compu85 3 года назад +1

      Anti-Skid is a better translation for the German name than Anti-Lock.
      Modern 4 wheel ABS was still quite new to the US market in 1987. Mercedes and BMW began offering it in 1978, but it wasn't available in the US market until 1984 for fear of lawsuits if people crashed (or that's the story I heard).

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 года назад

      @@compu85 - Yes, good drivers can stop faster than ABS, so it could be a liability...

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 2 года назад +3

      "This car has the latest ASS brakes". 😄

  • @josephdominics5935
    @josephdominics5935 3 года назад +30

    I had a real jazzy high School French teacher who had one of these brand new. She had mad style back in the days with her brand new sterling. I hope she's doing well today.

  • @robitcha
    @robitcha 3 года назад +7

    Loved the 89 827SL I had in the early 90's. They fixed most of the issues by then. It was a Great Car while I owned it. Got more looks and comments of any car I have ever owned.

  • @beb1527
    @beb1527 3 года назад +91

    I recommended this car to someone who couldn’t get an Acura legend thinking it would be reliable. She hasn’t forgiven me yet.

    • @keithjackson4985
      @keithjackson4985 3 года назад +9

      Lol 😆 lol 😆 hilarious. I love that

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 года назад +5

      It's embarrassing for Brits that they couldn't make reliable small cars... after making great WWII bombers/engines... and perfecting manufacture of the Buick/Rover/MG/Triumph/TVR/Morgan aluminum V8... and that V8 engine should have gone into the Sterling !!!

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 года назад +4

      @freepieanchipsgarage - Nope, Brits also ruined the Fords... and we didn't really even see those Ford models in the USA... too small, unreliable, and weak... I would never had known about 'English Fords' except my Dad had stopped in UK on his way to France in WWII and mentioned such things...

    • @monkeydui7241
      @monkeydui7241 3 года назад +1

      @freepieanchipsgarage I’m guessing you’re British and you got a bit salty from that comment?

    • @beb1527
      @beb1527 3 года назад +3

      @freepieanchipsgarage My friend’s first car was a 14 year old 1969 Ford Cortina GT. It was a 4 speed manual, he used to bring me everywhere he went, as I was his starter. I remember one night coming out of a movie theatre, I pushed him out of the parking spot, and then pushed him up to about ten mph, he dropped the clutch in 1st gear and the engine started. We got such an applause from the rest of the crowd coming out of the theatre. Within a year, he bought a cortina wagon too. For parts. In my life, I only saw 3 cortina’s in the US and he owned 2 of them. Not saying unreliable as much as I’m saying that when something did break, there was nowhere to go for parts.

  • @palebeachbum
    @palebeachbum 3 года назад +41

    Unreliable or not, I really like 80's British cars. They have a certain charm about them that today's cars lack.

    • @RichieRouge206
      @RichieRouge206 3 года назад +8

      There is a huge retro following now here in the UK, anything Rover or British Leyland is seriously cool now in car circles

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 года назад +1

      ????? nothing interesting came to USA from UK after 1980... MGA, Austin Healy 3000, TR8, MG V8, etc... all gone... unreliable, but still fun...

    • @ciello___8307
      @ciello___8307 2 года назад +1

      Does "charm" mean parts that don't work like they are supposed to? haha

    • @richardprice7763
      @richardprice7763 Год назад

      Yes that charm is so reassuring when it's died on the side of the road!

    • @RT-ii8hb
      @RT-ii8hb Год назад

      @@BuzzLOLOL Erm… one word… Delorian 😂

  • @theKevronHarris
    @theKevronHarris 3 года назад +23

    I remember seeing a Sterling 825 or 827 traveling on the highway back in February 2010 as my high school agriculture teacher took our FFA group to Columbia, South Carolina state house to celebrate FFA week.

    • @matthewbowen5841
      @matthewbowen5841 3 года назад +1

      My gosh I can't imagine trying to keep one of these running that late, let alone now.

  • @SolamenteVees
    @SolamenteVees 3 года назад +11

    Gotta love John's enunciation of "aut-ho matic" 2:40

    • @12ealDealOfficial
      @12ealDealOfficial 3 года назад +3

      Nobody enunciates like John! Guy must've been raised by a pair linguistics experts.

  • @Jay-Kay-Em
    @Jay-Kay-Em 3 года назад +38

    Oh my goodness! I never knew you guys got our Rover 800. I notice the very slightly different headlamps. The badge shape is identical to Rover. They were a common sight on British roads and many Police forces had them on their fleet after the SD1. Fantastic upload. All the best from the U.K. 🇬🇧

    • @Nonamenever557
      @Nonamenever557 3 года назад +6

      Standard government ministerial car back in the day!

    • @thomasw3285
      @thomasw3285 3 года назад +5

      We didn't know we had it either. I think we had the SD1 too. It of course is best well known as the police car used at the end of The Great Muppet Caper.

    • @IVR02
      @IVR02 3 года назад +5

      Never knew we had them here either, at least until very recently. I know we had a very small number of SD1s exported here in the mid-70s, since you mentioned them.

    • @RobJaskula
      @RobJaskula 3 года назад +7

      Man, the SD1 is so cool. Give me a Vitesse in silver with a black interior

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 3 года назад +5

      You were workin' as a waitress in a cocktail bar
      When I met you
      I picked you out, I shook you up and turned you around
      Turned you into someone new
      Now five years later on you've got the world at your feet
      Success has been so easy for you
      But don't forget, it's me who put you where you are now
      And I can put you back down too

  • @2turbo4u
    @2turbo4u 2 года назад +3

    My father brought one in 1989 it was silver just like the one tested 825sl. It was very reliable he got rid of it in 2008 only because parts got harder to find and the one specialist was moving his shop to Pa from nyc.

  • @terryorcutt8739
    @terryorcutt8739 3 года назад +11

    No typical British quirks, John? Lol. That comment didn't have well. I still vividly remember Automobile Magazine's long term test of a Sterling. It was an absolute electrical nightmare.

  • @justinsanto2458
    @justinsanto2458 3 года назад +108

    In high school, John wouldn't date a girl if she didn't have an oil pressure and volt gauge.

  • @viffer94
    @viffer94 3 года назад +3

    I had an 87 Legend Coupe with the 2.7l engine. What a fantastic car, fun to drive, comfortable, revvy with plenty of power for daily driving and super reliable with a solid carved from granite feel. Can’t vouch for the Sterling though.

  • @jeremyanderson1139
    @jeremyanderson1139 3 года назад +25

    It has all the reliability of a great British sedan and all the charm of a Honda. Proof that what was left of British Leyland still didn’t make cars properly

  • @asdfghjqwertyu1858
    @asdfghjqwertyu1858 3 года назад +35

    I prefer the more simple styling of the 80s versus some of the deformed aliens of some cars today.

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 3 года назад +5

      Me too. I like the clean lines. Today's designs can be so overwrought.

  • @fredaydaybae8450
    @fredaydaybae8450 3 года назад +17

    Gosh I had such a soft spot for these lovely cars back when I was a kid…ugh the want for an 827SLi Fastback still haunts me to this day. As much as ppl talk about it’s reliability, the last ones we saw here in the states (90-91) were relatively reliable but by then the damage had been done.
    Strangely I found one for sale here in Lancaster, SC last night but the seller wanted $2500 for it and it looked like it hadn’t run in years smh.
    By the time I’d gotten my license these were all but gone so good for me because I got my ass bit like a mofo in high school by having a Merkur Scorpio as my first car and an Alfa Romeo 164 as my second car and didn’t need a Sterling to make me hate more cars after all the punishment I’d gotten for those two haha. I’m a gluttons for punishment.

    • @lukerinderknecht2982
      @lukerinderknecht2982 3 года назад

      My family had a Merkur Scorpio when I got my driver's license. At that point it was about 12 years old and had some issues, but it was great to drive.

    • @fredaydaybae8450
      @fredaydaybae8450 3 года назад

      @@lukerinderknecht2982 omg they were so GREAT to drive weren’t they?! I ended up having two and although not TOO many issues the transmissions (A4LD) were so problematic that it basically killed the car and experience with all its reliability problems. The cost of a tranny rebuild was astronomical but at the time it was worth it.

    • @lukerinderknecht2982
      @lukerinderknecht2982 3 года назад +1

      @@fredaydaybae8450 yeah we went through two flywheels, which were hard to source in our area at the time. I ended up bringing one back from Germany when I was on an exchange student program there.

  • @rcrxjlb
    @rcrxjlb 3 года назад +7

    These things would show up on used car lots in the 1990's, right next to Eagle Premiere's ...

  • @TurboMan942
    @TurboMan942 3 года назад +8

    Sightings since 1990:
    Sasquatch = 4
    Sterling 825 = 0

  • @jriley1992
    @jriley1992 3 года назад +29

    I have NEVER seen one of these running.

    • @kevinbarry71
      @kevinbarry71 3 года назад +6

      Neither has anybody else

    • @Keiji1978
      @Keiji1978 3 года назад +2

      Me neither
      I guess some of these were imported to Japan that I live but ...

    • @johnroberts2905
      @johnroberts2905 3 года назад

      @@kevinbarry71 I have. Then again, I'm in the UK..... 🤣

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 3 года назад +3

      I saw one at the back of a tow truck, it appeared to be smooth riding!

    • @AnalogueKid2112
      @AnalogueKid2112 3 года назад +2

      I remember seeing one running...in 1992

  • @omostim2385
    @omostim2385 3 года назад +3

    Just saw one of these rolling around north Houston with paper tags. I exclaimed, “a Rover Sterling!” My dad who’s usually kind of foggy said oh yea Rover. They were around for a little while.

  • @ericbritton9346
    @ericbritton9346 3 года назад +6

    I would love to have one of these sedan with the red paint, black interior, and the factory body kit with trunk spoiler to go with it. A Sterling Classic.

  • @richardsanders3750
    @richardsanders3750 3 года назад +4

    This was one of my favorite cars in the 80's...🙂.

  • @henryovalles1163
    @henryovalles1163 3 года назад +7

    As a Milano / merkur xr4ti / Saab 9000 turbo owner I approve this video 🤣🤣

    • @andydhillon1977
      @andydhillon1977 2 года назад

      Just curious.. Do you enjoy getting kicked in the nuts? Lol

  • @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY
    @FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY 2 года назад +3

    That finish panel at the back can also fit Brazilian / Australian License plates from US SPEC Sterling and Aussie Spec Rover.

  • @albear972
    @albear972 3 года назад +26

    Those were some of the biggest lemon cars of the 1980's. It took Sterling/Rover to ruin a perfectly good Acura Legend.

    • @1985toyotacamry
      @1985toyotacamry 3 года назад +15

      At least the the actual legend is a good car overall

    • @edwardautrey3671
      @edwardautrey3671 3 года назад +5

      Honda cut ties with Rover quick!

    • @rockhard9369
      @rockhard9369 3 года назад +3

      @@1985toyotacamry Acura Legend was good looking car, Sterling look like nissan stanza, very cheap looking.

    • @1985toyotacamry
      @1985toyotacamry 3 года назад +2

      @@rockhard9369 I mean to be fair the Nissan Stanza is a good car but this car is like similar to a GM car that one didn't built a car correctly and GM is very confident

    • @RobJaskula
      @RobJaskula 3 года назад +1

      @@1985toyotacamry yep! Loved my '89 coupe with the 5-speed. Had it in the early 2000s and still remember it fondly

  • @rorymacve
    @rorymacve 3 года назад +4

    As a Brit, a car lover, and someone who despises seeing great potential go to waste, the story of the Sterling hits me hard.

    • @BennysBenz
      @BennysBenz 3 года назад

      Didn't fancy seeing you here! Your videos are very entertaining. As for Rover what a sad story indeed.

  • @blakelip3
    @blakelip3 3 года назад +8

    Listening to this while I sleep

  • @FantomLightning
    @FantomLightning 3 года назад +4

    I would love to own one of these. I just still cannot get over the fact they decided British electrics were the right thing to put in instead of just using the Honda parts.

  • @monolith2001
    @monolith2001 3 года назад +3

    A 4-second difference between the auto and 5-speed to 60 mph is hilarious.

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 3 года назад +1

      I was guessing that the 0-60 was going to be 11.5 seconds at first... when I thought this car was just a dumpy 80s econobox like a Nissan Stanza at first.
      Then I realized it was Legend based, and a luxury car, with a V6.
      Then I was surprised that it was even worse than I thought.

  • @googleuser3007
    @googleuser3007 Год назад +1

    My dad purchased a brand new ‘88 or ‘89 825 S w/ automatic transmission. It was this same silver color but had tan cloth seats.
    As a teenager, I wanted him to purchase the red Audi 4000 Turbo Quattro manual from the dealership next door, but he decided on the 825. I remember when he pulled up to the house in this thing all the neighbors came out to look at it. It was a beauty! It was so different than the majority of American cars that so many of them owned. However, two neighbors had the awesome looking boxy Maxima and Cressida and a third neighbor had an Audi 5000 Turbo (the unintended acceleration one).
    Sadly, electrical and transmission issues started almost immediately after he purchased it. It was a beautiful disaster! 😢

  • @AdamG1983
    @AdamG1983 3 года назад +16

    I like how in the 80s, adjustable seat belt height and tilt steering wheels were selling features

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 3 года назад +1

      My Dad bought a new Mitsubishi in 2019. Until last weekend, he didn't realize it has a telescopic steering wheel. He was very impressed when I showed him. :-)

    • @gavinvalentino6002
      @gavinvalentino6002 3 года назад +1

      And those "backlit gauges," as if that hadn't been offered before.

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 3 года назад +1

      Backlit gauges were still pretty new at the time.
      There were the odd few vehicles that had them before.. but it wasn’t until the mid 80s that they became common and not until the mid 90s that they became exclusive.
      Heck.. my 1995 VW GTi still had front lit gauges. My 1985 Volvo 744 was the oldest car I owned that had backlit gauges.

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 3 года назад

      @@Bartonovich52 The oldest car I've owned was my '85 Volvo 240, which had face lit gauges. My '88 Camry and '89 Lebaron convertible had backlit gauges.

    • @WanderingAroundAZ
      @WanderingAroundAZ 3 года назад

      And don’t forget radial tires!! 😂

  • @andrewsmactips
    @andrewsmactips 3 года назад +19

    John easily swayed by its oil pressure gauge and volt meter.

    • @SolamenteVees
      @SolamenteVees 3 года назад

      And no mention of a chin-spoiler

    • @gavinvalentino6002
      @gavinvalentino6002 3 года назад

      * *ITS* , genius.
      Ugh.

    • @andrewsmactips
      @andrewsmactips 3 года назад

      @@gavinvalentino6002 Thanks for that. Normally, I’m the one correcting grammar.

  • @waywardboi
    @waywardboi 3 года назад +3

    I fell in love with this car when i first saw it.

  • @boss12
    @boss12 3 года назад +2

    I had the Matchbox car when I was a kid.

  • @tkewrestler2662
    @tkewrestler2662 3 года назад +9

    Oh the beautiful memory it gives me is of my Father’s departed law partner. Karl bought a brand new first or second year Sterling. It was dark green, had tan leather interior, and he had the windows darkly tinted at the dealership. It was an absolutely beautiful car. Sadly, he had nothing but problems with the car in particular there were numerous electrical issues. Eventually he sold the car and bought a new loaded Honda Accord. It was much more reliable, but it wasn’t nearly as pretty.

    • @RobJaskula
      @RobJaskula 3 года назад +1

      Oh man that sounds like a lovely car

    • @tkewrestler2662
      @tkewrestler2662 3 года назад

      @@RobJaskula it was beautiful! The paint was so deep and rich, and the wood inside was gorgeous. Yet, I believe he only owned the car three years, perhaps four at the longest.

  • @catjudo1
    @catjudo1 3 года назад +15

    I had a cat who whose behavior was questionable. His execution of commands was erratic at best and he would often break down for long periods of time in the middle of the floor. Furthermore he would make this loud buzzing when he slept, such that I would have to adjust the volume on the TV or stereo when he was near. He was beautiful and loveable, just kind of high maintenance. His name was Sterling. My screen name pays homage to him because I miss him.

  • @jameeledwards8836
    @jameeledwards8836 3 года назад +1

    I used to watch this show religiously every weekend in the late 80's to the mid 90's. It feed my insatiable appetite and love for cars. Watching the detailed road test and specs was a joy. Mr. John kept me glued to the screen on his every word. I haven't watched MotorWeek in years! Is it still being broadcast?

  • @trucavalier
    @trucavalier 2 года назад +2

    I would have given a liver and a lung to get one of these back when I was 17 These cars look so bad ass back then

  • @gavinvalentino6002
    @gavinvalentino6002 3 года назад +4

    Resale value, or rather, the shockingly pitiful *lack* of resale value, quickly killed the U.S. market for these.
    As a teenage son of a very successful used-auto wholesaler at the time, I got to experience all the quirky & squirrely cars of the time, including Sterling, Peugot, Alfa, Renault, TVR, Saab, Bitter, Merkur, et al, and it was always a real-world lesson in math to see first-hand how much one year and 10,000 miles could make original MSRP a laughing matter. Definitely made all of them much more within reach for anyone who wanted to feign wealth while sitting in traffic though.

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 3 года назад

      I doubt it.
      Reliability is what killed the market.
      Resale is another thing entirely.
      People concentrate so much on resale not really understanding what affects it and why it even matters.
      If you are going to be offloading a car after a mere one or two years of ownership, you don’t care about money. So it doesn’t matter if you are selling a Honda or Toyota because you are going to lose tens of thousands of dollars anyways.
      The value of car needs to be based on its intrinsic value. Its ability to get you too and from a place reliably. This is where this car failed. And then people selling them after one or two years flooded the used market and THAT is what caused them to depreciate.
      Depreciation is almost always a supply and demand equation.
      Like a Pontiac Grand Am. Great car. The last generation is one of the best cars GM ever built. Solid drivetrain, lots of power, excellent fuel economy. An overall excellent if a bit ostentatious design.
      Well.. nobody wanted to buy GM cars because they remembered the low quality duds they made in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s. They needed to offer leases to move models. Unsold inventory went wholesale to car rental companies. Then all of the lease returns and auction vehicles flooded the market two or three years later and drove prices into the basement. Even more people are turned off of these cars because “they aren’t a good investment”.
      But 20 years later you still see so many of these on the road. They are $800 cars, a mere $400 repair bill away from being pushed over a cliff and set on fire... yet I don’t go a day without seeing one!
      So.. I bought a rental car myself barely over half sticker with 7500 miles and factory warranty. Depreciation works great for me, that car will last me a long time. Who cares what it’s worth? If I bought an equivalent Toyota I would have paid 50% more and it will only be worth $2000 more by the time I plan on selling it 15 years from now. Between taxes and interest on a higher amount, it will have lost so much money, I could afford to replace the engine and transmission in my car and still be ahead.

  • @fitfogey
    @fitfogey 3 года назад +3

    I had one of these. I stopped at a red light and when it turned green I put it in gear and the transmission broke from the transfer case and landed on the street. Fun times.

    • @revvolutions
      @revvolutions 2 года назад

      How they took Honda's homework and managed to mess it up so bad I'll never understand.

    • @SpitfireFortyFour
      @SpitfireFortyFour 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@revvolutionsQuite easily. The management had them put it into production before the factory had it's full refresh to change over from SD1 production. That's why after 1990 they were very good.
      Unfortunately by that point its reputation was already tarnishes. The MK2 which sadly never made it to the States proved to be a big success in Europe for its quality and reliability. They even started building cars for Honda in the same factory!

  • @robertpsarudakis3474
    @robertpsarudakis3474 3 года назад +3

    These were rare, but a niche market. I do remember seeing these and even as a kids was like... "What's that?"

  • @HeadTurnNet
    @HeadTurnNet 3 года назад +3

    I test drove one back in the early 90s because I liked how it looks, but I blew the engine with just a few pedal-to-the-metal accelerations. The salesman almost wanted me to pay for it. From that point on, this car is on my black list.

    • @billybellend1155
      @billybellend1155 3 года назад +2

      Really as they were fitted with Honda v6’s?

    • @HeadTurnNet
      @HeadTurnNet 3 года назад

      @@billybellend1155 yes, even the most reliable engines could have been abused and failed. You never know how the previous owner took care of the car, maybe he always skipped an oil change or ignored all the tune up schedule, or drove really harsh from day one, who knows? Or, maybe the second hand car dealer already knew it was a junky car and tried to bait someone with little car knowledge to buy it. Anyways, it was a real experience and I just walked away although he claimed I damaged the engine. I said if an engine could be blown with just a few hard accelerations, it was a piece of junk. He was of course very pissed but what else he could do?

  • @paulwlynch
    @paulwlynch 3 года назад +4

    We had a Rover dealer close to our house when I was a kid and would regularly see Rover 800s at the dealer. Seeing the additional standard features the American Sterling version got made the Rover look positively poverty spec..

  • @brentaudi9354
    @brentaudi9354 3 года назад +2

    These were a very classy looking car for it's time. I drove a few when new and thought they drove much better than most cars at the time. I knew 3 people that bought one loaded with options. None of them made it past 60,000 miles without major issues that made the car not operational.

  • @liverush24
    @liverush24 3 года назад +15

    Many years ago, I was watching an episode of Seinfeld & I spotted one of these in the background, parked at the roadside in Manhattan. I remember being very surprised.
    I don't know if it was real Manhattan or a set, but the car was real.

    • @danielponder690
      @danielponder690 3 года назад +3

      I believe that was filmed in a mall in Jersey City or the Newark area, they comment about the long drive from NYC to Jersey (if that's the same episode you're thinking of)

    • @liverush24
      @liverush24 3 года назад +1

      @@danielponder690 It could well be. I'll have to check it out again. It'll give me an excuse to rewatch the show. 👍
      Thanks.

    • @danielponder690
      @danielponder690 3 года назад +2

      @@liverush24 you're welcome but I stand corrected, it was all on a sound stage and was one of the most expensive episodes to produce, who knew!?

    • @liverush24
      @liverush24 3 года назад

      @@danielponder690 It certainly looked the part & I've learned something new. 👍
      Cheers.

    • @kz1000ps
      @kz1000ps 3 года назад +2

      Almost all exterior shots where the cast is actually present were done in Los Angeles, so what you saw was a California car!

  • @ianclaudio777
    @ianclaudio777 3 года назад +3

    I would love to have this car in 87

  • @dcanmore
    @dcanmore 3 года назад +1

    35,739 Sterlings were sold in the States with 317,306 Rover 800 series built in total. Honda/Austin Rover partnership began in 1979 until 1994 when BMW bought Rover (including MG, Land Rover and Mini).

    • @dcanmore
      @dcanmore 3 года назад

      @freepieanchipsgarage yes that is correct, however Honda had no direct input and no updated technology was passed onto Rover after '94.

  • @pigeonpoo1823
    @pigeonpoo1823 3 года назад +2

    And with the dominant status in US sales charts secured, Rover dumped the unreliable Honda association and took a majority stake in BMW, fixed the V8 valve seal issues. And the rest, as they say, is history.
    What an episode of Sliders that could have been

    • @pigeonpoo1823
      @pigeonpoo1823 3 года назад

      @freepieanchipsgarage you do realise that was sarcasm?

  • @chrisb2844
    @chrisb2844 3 года назад +4

    I haven't seen one of these in years, I forgot all about the Sterling!

    • @dudley7540
      @dudley7540 3 года назад +2

      I used to be a Sterling tech........I'll never forget.

  • @qmto
    @qmto 3 года назад +2

    Saw one in this exact color parked next to a tennis court the other day. Had to snap a pic on my phone. Still in pretty good shape too. Shame it was the auto though, would love one in a manual.

  • @bilalahmed2123
    @bilalahmed2123 3 года назад +3

    It’s a beautiful car. European design, fit and finish with Japanese Honda reliability.

  • @303nitzubishi4
    @303nitzubishi4 3 года назад +1

    Wow I remember seeing these on the road here and there back in the day. Never realized they were kin to the Legend but it makes total sense now

  • @landyachtfan79
    @landyachtfan79 3 года назад +5

    A British car with the heart of a Honda. Sadly, that would not be enough to save this car's reputation, as the typical British build quality issues eventually did it in, & it did not survive into the 1990's.

    • @Banom7a
      @Banom7a 3 года назад

      they did get it right with the Rover R8 but it was too late to save their tarnished American image.

  • @davehayter312
    @davehayter312 3 года назад +1

    The VP of where I worked circa 1987 bought this car. I was like, damb, he must be rich! 😄

  • @Wheelman1966
    @Wheelman1966 3 года назад +2

    55-0 in 100 feet is impressive today.. Especially for a four door sedan.

  • @imbluz
    @imbluz 3 года назад +1

    My sister gave me her used 1989 827SL in 1996.. The car had many problems, bad struts, no radiator. I sold it for pretty cheap to some young couple a year later for about $2,500.

  • @mikeisaacs2314
    @mikeisaacs2314 3 года назад +3

    My brother had a 1988 was a good car

  • @djkenny1202
    @djkenny1202 3 года назад +1

    I had a Turbo Sprint 1993-2015, and still own a 92 VW GTI 16v bought in 99. I like different cars, preferably hatch backs from pre 2000’s. Just bought a 2000 VW Cabrio last summer, so fun. Cars are not as fun now, and too expensive. Picked up a 15 Scion XB manual, needed a more reliable safe car with kids. Last cool quirky car out that fit my needs. These Sterlings seemed like a perfect combo of European style and Japanese Reliability. Too bad they were built nothing like the Legend.

  • @landyachtfan79
    @landyachtfan79 3 года назад +1

    0:40...........there's that AWESOME background music again!!!!!!

  • @ronjohnson5070
    @ronjohnson5070 Год назад +1

    A coworker of mine had one of these. It drove like a much bigger car in a good way. He had electrical issues constantly though and ditched it

  • @christopherconard2831
    @christopherconard2831 3 года назад +3

    A former boss had a Sterling, I forget the exact model. When it ran he loved it. Unfortunately the electronics, like ignition, would get wonky when wet. Perhaps if we lived in Arizona this wouldn't have been a problem. Unfortunately, living in Florida, this made the car a crapshoot to drive about 300 days a year.

  • @barrykehoe996
    @barrykehoe996 3 года назад +2

    Luckily only about 17 people actually bought this contradiction of a vehicle.

  • @AdamG1983
    @AdamG1983 3 года назад +3

    154 hp from a 2.5L V6
    My '14 Corolla gets 142 from a 1.8L I-4
    The 80s were truly a weird time

    • @JerrytheVampire
      @JerrytheVampire 3 года назад +5

      The 1970s were even weirder. For example, in 1972 you could buy a Ford with a 7.5-litre V8 that produced only 212 horsepower.

    • @nickmotsarsky4382
      @nickmotsarsky4382 3 года назад +4

      A 2020 Subaru Legacy is only making like 170 from its 2.5..

    • @vwaudiporsche11
      @vwaudiporsche11 3 года назад +1

      That's about accurate. The '87-'89 Camry V6 was 2.5L, 153 horses. 1990-91 Camrys had 156 horses. Honda Accord didn't come in V6 until 1994

    • @johnroberts2905
      @johnroberts2905 3 года назад +1

      Amazing where 30 year of progress gets you!

    • @kirbyswarp
      @kirbyswarp 3 года назад +1

      @@nickmotsarsky4382 Well Subaru also managed to only get 215 out of a 2.5 Turbo only 10-15 years ago, and still couldn't manage to make it reliable.

  • @waltereturner
    @waltereturner 3 года назад +6

    I worked with a guy many years ago who purchased one of these. It spent more time in the shop than it did with him. And from what I recall, none of the repairs were cheap either.

  • @MJorgy5
    @MJorgy5 3 года назад +2

    Yes. Back when manuals outperformed the slush boxes.

  • @jhomrich89
    @jhomrich89 3 года назад +13

    I would love to see Doug Demuro review one of these

    • @josiahstearns9615
      @josiahstearns9615 3 года назад +2

      Definitely can see a couple quirks and features on this one. Lol

    • @SnarkyRC
      @SnarkyRC 8 дней назад

      Not me. That guy is a goof.

  • @sharedknowledge6640
    @sharedknowledge6640 3 года назад +6

    The prediction “Sterling will soon shine” couldn’t have been more wrong. These cars were a sales disaster in the US with a limited dealer network, sketchy electrical issues, poor resale, etc. The Legend was a much safer buy. By this time British cars had a horrible reputation around the world with bankrupt manufactures, closed factories, terrible build quality, etc.

  • @cardo1111
    @cardo1111 3 года назад +12

    Gotta love the retro reviews 👍🏽

  • @raycroal
    @raycroal 3 года назад +1

    the coupe of this was beautiful

  • @sunilayya8948
    @sunilayya8948 3 года назад +2

    Was a looker in its day with a fine v6 and a great chassis. Sadly, it did not meet sales expectations.

  • @RichieRouge206
    @RichieRouge206 3 года назад +1

    Ahhh the Rover 800! Very coveted here in the UK now. Shame when this was filmed they didn’t know what a failure it would be in the US

  • @generaloranger6150
    @generaloranger6150 3 года назад +2

    My computer has electrical issue from seeing this video.

  • @nickmotsarsky4382
    @nickmotsarsky4382 3 года назад +23

    4 seconds faster with a manual? Wow, that auto is awful..

    • @cargueone1971
      @cargueone1971 2 года назад +2

      Honda Automatics at the time were horrible.

    • @questioner1596
      @questioner1596 2 года назад

      I have an 02 Accord V6 - it's not much faster with its 4 speed auto than the same era I4 manual.

  • @seinsmeld13
    @seinsmeld13 2 года назад

    I have one thing to say, thanks John!

  • @johnbehneman1546
    @johnbehneman1546 2 года назад +2

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! A VERY BEAUTIFUL CAR.

  • @anibalbabilonia1867
    @anibalbabilonia1867 3 года назад

    Man that car is as rare as it can get! I don't think there's any left around here in the states!

  • @5KpGD
    @5KpGD 3 года назад +1

    3:17
    That door window frame panel gap

  • @garethonthetube
    @garethonthetube 3 года назад +1

    Even if its reliability was not up to Honda standards, it was way better than the Rover SD1 it replaced.

  • @Acc0rd79
    @Acc0rd79 3 года назад +2

    And yet all of these years later you still wish you had that Acura! LOL

  • @corlion29
    @corlion29 14 дней назад +1

    My brother and a friend bought one of these. I loved them😂. That is til the electrical issues started. That thing was a nonstop problem. Acura wldnt touch it. To be honest, nobody wild touch it. That car is a no go

  • @TheOzthewiz
    @TheOzthewiz 3 года назад +9

    John should have updated this review to tell the viewers what a reliability NIGHTMARE this car turned out to be!

    • @1962delia
      @1962delia 3 года назад

      I never understood how it could be unreliable since it has the same engine as an Acura, which people praised for reliability...

    • @drewdederer8965
      @drewdederer8965 3 года назад +1

      @@1962delia It was basically everything BUT the engine (Electrics, rust, various suspension bits). Also, the fit and finish and general assembly was fairly dire. The JD Power initial quality survey that year was interesting. The Sterling and Legend book-ended the ratings. The Legend was first, and the Sterling was last..

  • @harleyrobertson73
    @harleyrobertson73 3 года назад +5

    I like the later 90s rover 800 series

    • @ThinkDifferentlier
      @ThinkDifferentlier 3 года назад +2

      pre-facelift front looks a bit anonymous, post-facelift one with the chrome grille looks much better :)

  • @carwrtr1
    @carwrtr1 3 года назад +1

    I love the Sterling; it’s a beautiful car that should have done well in America. It was a different car than the Legend from Honda. I would gladly own one...

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 3 года назад +6

    I remember this car and indeed I remember watching this very review when it first came out. When I was in high school. I remember thinking then, and time has proven this to be correct, that you would have to be crazy to buy a British made luxury car when you could get a top-quality Honda made in Japan

    • @thearousedeunuch
      @thearousedeunuch 3 года назад +1

      I agree. Both are basically Hondas in this case, though.

    • @kevinbarry71
      @kevinbarry71 3 года назад +2

      @@thearousedeunuch not everything; and even if they were identical; you'd be crazy to have one built by the traditional English automotive assembly workers

    • @evoste
      @evoste 3 года назад +2

      I'm English and fully agree.
      Rover was the last of mass produced British manufacturers and they died a death due to decades of under investment, they were popular withe older generations, but to me and my buddies, would pick a Honda every time, great engines and rock solid build quality.

  • @demolitionman5003
    @demolitionman5003 3 года назад +1

    It's funny everybody complained about it but Honda actually did the motor drivetrain systems and all the electrical in it all British Sterling did was designed the layout of the interior and the metal work on the body everything underneath it was a Honda Acura so if it was unreliable it was Honda Acura that was unreliable LOL

  • @Aikynbreusov
    @Aikynbreusov 2 года назад

    The legend still runs on the street today whereas the sterling lay dead and rusting at the local junkyards

  • @soulstance
    @soulstance 3 года назад +1

    Always had softspot for Sterlings, they weren't quite BMWs but seem very slick and luxurious. Didn't know they were this bad with reliability though 😂

  • @connorbasile
    @connorbasile 2 года назад

    Woah this thing looks incredible in and out. And powered by a Honda? If was around in 1986 I’d probably want this.

  • @TheTallMan50
    @TheTallMan50 3 года назад +2

    Good luck finding parts for one of these.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL 3 года назад

      When something breaks on a Brit car you just replace that part with a USA made part...

  • @futureboydesign1708
    @futureboydesign1708 3 года назад +1

    "Sterling will shine like gold", how wrong were we, a real shame really because apart from a couple of major quality issues, the Sterling/ Rover 800 wasn't that bad a car, especially by Rover standards.

    • @futureboydesign1708
      @futureboydesign1708 3 года назад

      @freepieanchipsgarage Very True, the 75 was even better...

  • @jonnyfennessy9812
    @jonnyfennessy9812 3 года назад +4

    If you know how bad reliability is on Land Rovers,Jaguars any British made cars.Then save your money. Lol

  • @905Speed
    @905Speed 3 года назад +2

    2:20 those ape paws scared the hell outta me! lmao

    • @andydhillon1977
      @andydhillon1977 2 года назад

      Lol!!!! I can't stop laughing!! Too funny!!

    • @SnarkyRC
      @SnarkyRC 8 дней назад

      Do you need a hug?

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 3 года назад

    I always liked older Jeeps my 94 Wrangler and 98JGC 5.9 Limited both had oil pressure and volt meter.

  • @buggs9950
    @buggs9950 3 года назад +1

    I had the facelift Rover version of this with the Rover built 2.0l 16v turbo petrol motor and a manual box, Recaro interior and lower, stiffer suspension. I loved that car, especially as it looked like I'd borrowed off my dad but went like shit off a shovel.

  • @Paramount531
    @Paramount531 3 года назад +1

    At the time the Sterling hit the market, I owned a 1970 Rover 3500S. I was hoping the Sterling would be as good as the Acura Legend. I think my 1970 Rover was probably more reliable with a whole lot more charm.

    • @mescko
      @mescko 2 года назад

      I've got a 1969 Rover 2000 TC that I drive in the summer. My fellow Americans don't know what it is.

    • @Paramount531
      @Paramount531 2 года назад

      @@mescko I sure used to get a lot of stares when driving it and questions when I was stopped.

  • @ravisriram6746
    @ravisriram6746 3 года назад

    Remember it well. It was an interesting decade for cars.