Thx so much for this one! The elbow grind has really been bothering me lately. Especially when accompanied by pushing into the groin! Looking forward to the Pistachio Nut guard series.
Great video! I like to counter elbow grind with a triangle choke. Opponent digging elbow in thigh, I pull one of his arms away from thigh, opponent naturally resists and digs in even harder, so I then use that against him by popping legs open a little bit and pushing his arm and elbow through, then lock in a triangle.
To be honest i find the 'proper' guard passes dont work in competition when the other guy is just holding on for grim death but this one does. As for people doing it to me i have no problem with it. I dont find it that painful and hey the onus is on me to do something about it right?
I always used to have that same problem (i'm a blue aswell). I'm 16 and i'm pretty large for my age, but I train with adults so i'm pretty small and weak compared to them. I thought it really sucked at first, but now that I think about it, it's made me a better bottom player. Now, I get most of my subs from bottom positions and TONS of sweeps, JUST because I was smaller. The thing is though, don't ALWAYS play bottom, make sure your game is being developed in all positions.
I remember being taught that ages ago (digging elbows into the opponents inner thighs) until I trained Bjj and some still do it but doesn’t really work. A lot more basic and better guard escapes leading into a pass.
@@shaunedwards5356 with all do respect you absolutely are. i just got out of training where a highly educated and highly trained blue from brazil used this technique against me and the pain was so much i broke my own guard.
I'm not big nor muscle-bound nor a doofus. However, I find that putting my knee in the middle of their back from their full guard while grinding my elbows on the inside of the thigh works quite well to make the bottom guy transition to something else and not just hold you there in a closed guard.
My first ever lesson and a guy does this to me while the coach looks on and I'm supposed to know what the hell I'm doing? It hurt in ways I wasn't ready for. Thanks for the video. Super helpful.
Man i needed this today! The guy, blue belt, VERY good jiujitsu practicioner, and im an absolute noob. I dont know how I got him in the closed guard, but he seated really hard, and stable, and I couldn't do much specially because nothing was coming to mind. The guy was just messing around with me ,he likes to roll with me and show me weird things that I might have to face sometime. Wonderful guy. I wish I could have known how to get out of it and leave him speechless hahaha.
First guard pass we played with was the ol' grinder, we did it to condition our thighs. After a few rolls we were taught real guard passes. It's like the elbow into the plexus that guys will do, the first few times it causes a reflexive reaction. But after a few times you'll learn to cope with it.
Another tip for that opener is to make sure your large knuckles are angled forward onto your opponent's belly. Although this seems counter-intuitive, for anatomical reasons it exposes the point of the elbow in the extreme and usually changes this from a "pry" or "grind" to tool that "pops" guards open like a champagne cork.
While ill say I don't condone it, digging your elbows in can be a good tactic.. Stephan calls it stupid, but with a good base you can use it for someone you know has a good closed guard, force them into a different guard. If u do it enough, u will know the spots.. I don't like being the receiver of it though, so I don't do it to others..
Yes, and they certainly don't do it like it's demonstrated in this video, but I think he's giving a basic tip here, to be used against guys who have learned to use their elbow to grind but nothing more. Those guys are pretty common in the lower ranks. Even against advanced use, I think the principles here are quite useful.
Lord thank you for this. One of the teachers at my school does this to me. I almost always work to the knee shield on either side. I hadn’t considered gripping the triceps until I saw this. Gawd those elbows hurt. Not anymore! I’m looking forward to turning the tables this week! Thank you!
Its actually very effective when striking is involved not just pure judo. Your target is not just the inside of the thighs but the major arties in the leg same place for an inside leg kick.
Ahh, interesting perspective. I've only done the elbow grind once, and that was because somebody thought they were going to be super cool and tried to guard squeeze the white belt (me) to submission. It hurt, no doubt. I looked into his eyes like, "Are you really doing this right now?" and just laid into the nerve on the inside of his thigh. He let go. Wouldn't have resorted to something to aggressive if he didn't try something so immature. It was a true white belt super-fight. Hopefully as I learn more, I can take the high road and use a more technical escape for a guard squeeze or better, not put myself in a situation to do that. Either by improving my posture or not sparring with a spaz.
Thanks for doing this video, Stephan. Irritates the hell out of me when people try this, especially when they are 20kg heavier. Such a crap thing to do to a training partner.
i´m a beginner in the bjj art, and choose to subscribed your channel because a think you have a good methodology of teaching. can you make a tutorial about the spider guard. how to use, and when to use the diferent guards. thanks
I think that trying to pull the opponents elbows away or putting your hands underneath them will for sure lead you to get punched in the face so this seems not to be a good idea for mma or similar competitions that are not only about grappling.
I was that idiot in my very first bjj class. I just had no idea it really hurt and had seen a video where someone did something similar (at least thats what I thought, I had no clue). Luckily my training partner did the best thing possible. He told me to stop for a second and explained to me that it doesn't work and hurts and that people might get angry if I keep doing it. If someone does this in training and they have no clue, please do the same! It's your teammate after all!
Not a personality thing for us, we were taught this in my school and all do it. After a year you start to get use to it and legs toughen up I guess. But we use it to momentarily transition or create space to start a proper pass.
i tried this and managed to establish butterfly but got stuffed pretty quickly (against a blue belt and i am a white). trying the butterfly sweep i went to the left side and he passed to the right. did i give him to much space repositioning from closed guard or is my butterfly guard the problem?
The problem with doing a guard pass with the elbows in the thighs, is that generally new people do not stick around because that crap hurts and is not fun. Gotta keep training funa dn playful! You can keep your forearm on the thigh to prevent triagles/arm bars, but you do not have to grind them into the legs and be a jerk about it! The knee in the tailbone works great, but its not your elbows breaking the guard, its your hips and the space you create.
I used to use the elbow guard break all the time. It hurts and eventually people open their guard. It does work. It works great verses lower level guys which I was one of. Higher level guys would also open their guard but they would move to 1000 other things when they opened it and submit me. But it is effective against low level people. but being a good noob isn't why we do BJJ so learn proper guard passes.
It is interesting how people complain about someone grinding on them when they are grappling but are perfectly OK with doing a submission such as an arm bar that can break someone's arm.
the complaint is moreso how untechnical it is, similar to how a big guy tries to nose dive smash you when you have them in fullguard. I still kick their asses but i'm like, i'm tired of rolling with these white belts doing non jiu jitsu moves, it's not helping me in competition.
Im also used to striking while on the ground so its a little different. Its very hard thing to stop especially when someone forms a base before doing it. Also you can't come up and pull them down like demonstrated without catching and elbow to the head. also two elbow to the solar plexus or floating ribs allow you to base up on the bottom and then sit straight up to set up a pass or break the guard and slide a knee through.
Honestly I've never really trained just grappling (no striking), same as I don't train to use the GI. So is competition like judo torments this may be very true. ITs kind of like when you practice with strikes you practice to control the center line of the body more instead of wrist control.
Imo bjj is all about continuous flow. If he passed right as u were getting into position he had his timing down better, and you should have been able to go with it and roll into another position (given more training/exp of course). I don't think its really a problem with the position. Also everyone has strong and weak points, you just have to find out what works best for you.
In actual combat, grabbing his elbows leaves you open to a lot of shots to the head and face. However, in training for jiu jitsu, or in jiu jitsu tournaments I can see where this might have the desired effect.
A guy that i train with does this, and only this. He doesn't really know how to do anything else, but he walks around trying to give advice to higher belts. No one likes him. I played with this on a no-gi training day after i saw it and a brownbelt came up and told me that doing that is just going to piss people off (i was a white belt)... never did it again.
These counters seem to have limited effectiveness in a situation where the person on top is striking. Forearms-in-thighs remains an effective technique, despite those who criticize its use.
My friend would dig his into my thighs. I am a big guy and was a noob and didn't have much on my back. They hurt like a SOB and I would keep pulling him down and he would work his way bacvk up and doing it again. It does force you to make a move eventually. I would usually let them go and work from half guard if I couldn't sweep them in full guard rather than keep in locked. But he is right. In comp with a time limit I could keep it locked regardless of the pain.
Using elbows is a pretty cheesy way to open the guard, but I don't necessarily think badly about a white belt trying it, perhaps if they don't know many good ways to escape. It is just not cool for, say, a purple belt to do it. Plus, it's really not effective, compared to the truer techniques... I just sit there pulling the elbow off while the person is burning energy and losing base.
Why would you use a grind without securing your hand on your opponent's belt or top of trousers? It limits 75% of the advice just given. Lock in at least one arm on a belt, quick elbow in the soft spot and it's a pretty effective opener. In all of these descriptions (I am usually a fan of this channel) the top person is completely inert while the instructor throws around. Not the best advice this one.
How strong? is the question. If you're using your strength, you've just given anyone stronger the edge. Meanwhile, the smaller man, who knows the limits of his strength, and is familiar with the specific ways in which strength is used, has already formulated an entire game plan for the instant your "strength" succeeds.
Once you submitt them, take a few minutes to show them a different way to break the guard... They will appreciate it and do will they future training partners... osss
I agree this technique is very white belt, BUT there's a very good guy at my gym (Not sure what belt, he seems not to care about that stuff), he gives blackbelts a good fight, and his game seems to really only be weak in leg/foot locks. Anyway, he uses many pain moves and other subs you might call "dick moves" to great effect. The big but is, he doesn't elbow the upper thigh, he uses the leverage of his fairly short arms to put his elbow tips into that inside notch in your knees (yes he leans back a bit) and it is nearly impossible to grit and bear. Anyway, my point is, this newb technique can be useful at a somewhat higher level with the right body type and proper application.
It may work in MMA; don't know. In high-level grappling, it doesn't work. No good grappler is going to do anything but light you up for using such a newb maneuver. This guard break is a white and blue belt special. Like Kesting says, this is one of those moves that can work in training, but not in competition.
Jbon, in answer to your question on the meaning of... that /T͟Hat/ Pronoun Used to identify a specific person or thing observed by the speaker: "that's his wife over there". Adjective Used to identify a specific person or thing observed or heard by the speaker: "look at that man". Adverb To such a degree; so: "I would not go that far". Conjunction Introducing a subordinate clause expressing a statement or hypothesis: "she said that she was satisfied".
The problem with this video is no one ever does elbow in the thigh by itself. If they do then yes they're idiots, but elbow in the thigh is an integral part of any closed guard opening/pass. There's a reason world champions do it. And they do it on other world champs mind u with success.
I find it to be very effective. You just have to know you target which is the major arties in the inside thigh or the minor ligaments in the knee. Same principle of and inside leg kick. If done right you opponent develops are rather nasty limp and losses legibility of the that leg. of course I not used to pure judo also used to striking on the ground.
also i hear all these people complaining that this is such a crappy thing to do to a training partner because it hurts... um so i guess any submission is a crappy thing to do to a training partner because it hurts... maybe just taking a nap holding each other would be a better way to train jig jitsu.. lol wtf
never saw this dumb type of elbow into tighs, he should hold his belt when doing that, this way using belt as handle leverage force several times, plus it wont let opponent to slide out like in this video. also if you put hands under elbows you open your neck and collar. not trying to be a wise guy here its just my opinion. i've never done bjj (or what ever it is), i do judo. i know elbows into tighs very effective, makes you think and move quicker.
Popped back to this video because a black belt over on the BJJ over 40 FB group swears the elbow grind is a legit move. I like to show all due respect to black belts, but no it's not.
"certain personality".... it's a white belt who hasn't been taught any guard passes and is being told to roll on their first times out. I did this my first 2-3 weeks rolling. It's not a steroid thing, it's part of the spaz phase. As the recipient, you try being a good training partner and walk them through 2-3 guard passes and tell them why the elbow grind won't work.
NO ONE...passes my upside down pistachio nut guard... NO ONE
Oh god this video just saved my life, I've been training for 2 weeks and this is how half of the other white belts pass my guard
Fuck Tooka try estus!
U a purple now?
Yasuo Main I was wondering the same thing....
@@yasuomain583he's a brown belt now
Thx so much for this one! The elbow grind has really been bothering me lately. Especially when accompanied by pushing into the groin! Looking forward to the Pistachio Nut guard series.
Great video! I like to counter elbow grind with a triangle choke. Opponent digging elbow in thigh, I pull one of his arms away from thigh, opponent naturally resists and digs in even harder, so I then use that against him by popping legs open a little bit and pushing his arm and elbow through, then lock in a triangle.
To be honest i find the 'proper' guard passes dont work in competition when the other guy is just holding on for grim death but this one does.
As for people doing it to me i have no problem with it. I dont find it that painful and hey the onus is on me to do something about it right?
I always used to have that same problem (i'm a blue aswell). I'm 16 and i'm pretty large for my age, but I train with adults so i'm pretty small and weak compared to them. I thought it really sucked at first, but now that I think about it, it's made me a better bottom player. Now, I get most of my subs from bottom positions and TONS of sweeps, JUST because I was smaller. The thing is though, don't ALWAYS play bottom, make sure your game is being developed in all positions.
I remember being taught that ages ago (digging elbows into the opponents inner thighs) until I trained Bjj and some still do it but doesn’t really work. A lot more basic and better guard escapes leading into a pass.
I dont see the issue with some grinding vs. a tight closed guard. Im strong, so might as well use it when opponent stubbornly sits in the bottom.
You aren’t breaking anyone’s guard doing that
@@shaunedwards5356 with all do respect you absolutely are. i just got out of training where a highly educated and highly trained blue from brazil used this technique against me and the pain was so much i broke my own guard.
I'm not big nor muscle-bound nor a doofus. However, I find that putting my knee in the middle of their back from their full guard while grinding my elbows on the inside of the thigh works quite well to make the bottom guy transition to something else and not just hold you there in a closed guard.
I wish Stephan woulda mentioned that using elbows to "break" closed guard is dumb because you can get triangled pretty easily.
lol yes, I actually like when my training partners try this pass
My first ever lesson and a guy does this to me while the coach looks on and I'm supposed to know what the hell I'm doing? It hurt in ways I wasn't ready for. Thanks for the video. Super helpful.
Man i needed this today! The guy, blue belt, VERY good jiujitsu practicioner, and im an absolute noob. I dont know how I got him in the closed guard, but he seated really hard, and stable, and I couldn't do much specially because nothing was coming to mind. The guy was just messing around with me ,he likes to roll with me and show me weird things that I might have to face sometime. Wonderful guy. I wish I could have known how to get out of it and leave him speechless hahaha.
First guard pass we played with was the ol' grinder, we did it to condition our thighs. After a few rolls we were taught real guard passes. It's like the elbow into the plexus that guys will do, the first few times it causes a reflexive reaction. But after a few times you'll learn to cope with it.
Another tip for that opener is to make sure your large knuckles are angled forward onto your opponent's belly. Although this seems counter-intuitive, for anatomical reasons it exposes the point of the elbow in the extreme and usually changes this from a "pry" or "grind" to tool that "pops" guards open like a champagne cork.
It’s actually a vein press rather than grinding (if they know what they’re doing) this was super informative for getting them closer though
i have a friend who does this and his counter is "it works so why can't I do it?" what makes a technique "frowned upon"?
Not gonna lie, that's my default guard pass.
Thanks for the advice. Somebody did this to me during training and it's nice to learn how to counter.
i love your videos, but when you said "i like to tickle my friends" i burst out laughing.
keep up the good work! oSS
While ill say I don't condone it, digging your elbows in can be a good tactic.. Stephan calls it stupid, but with a good base you can use it for someone you know has a good closed guard, force them into a different guard. If u do it enough, u will know the spots.. I don't like being the receiver of it though, so I don't do it to others..
Yes, and they certainly don't do it like it's demonstrated in this video, but I think he's giving a basic tip here, to be used against guys who have learned to use their elbow to grind but nothing more. Those guys are pretty common in the lower ranks. Even against advanced use, I think the principles here are quite useful.
Lord thank you for this. One of the teachers at my school does this to me. I almost always work to the knee shield on either side. I hadn’t considered gripping the triceps until I saw this. Gawd those elbows hurt. Not anymore! I’m looking forward to turning the tables this week! Thank you!
What a shit teacher
Its actually very effective when striking is involved not just pure judo. Your target is not just the inside of the thighs but the major arties in the leg same place for an inside leg kick.
Ahh, interesting perspective. I've only done the elbow grind once, and that was because somebody thought they were going to be super cool and tried to guard squeeze the white belt (me) to submission. It hurt, no doubt. I looked into his eyes like, "Are you really doing this right now?" and just laid into the nerve on the inside of his thigh. He let go. Wouldn't have resorted to something to aggressive if he didn't try something so immature. It was a true white belt super-fight. Hopefully as I learn more, I can take the high road and use a more technical escape for a guard squeeze or better, not put myself in a situation to do that. Either by improving my posture or not sparring with a spaz.
Thanks for doing this video, Stephan. Irritates the hell out of me when people try this, especially when they are 20kg heavier. Such a crap thing to do to a training partner.
"muscle bound dufus" ... friggin killin me!!! Stephen your tha man. :)
i´m a beginner in the bjj art, and choose to subscribed your channel because a think you have a good methodology of teaching. can you make a tutorial about the spider guard. how to use, and when to use the diferent guards. thanks
Oh wow! I needed this. This shit hurts and I hate when people do it. I just open my guard right away.
Great tip mate - love it and will certainly use it.
Im not rly strong, but this was just the first guard pass i learned, a lot of guys use it at our gym thanks for this
I think that trying to pull the opponents elbows away or putting your hands underneath them will for sure lead you to get punched in the face so this seems not to be a good idea for mma or similar competitions that are not only about grappling.
I was that idiot in my very first bjj class. I just had no idea it really hurt and had seen a video where someone did something similar (at least thats what I thought, I had no clue).
Luckily my training partner did the best thing possible. He told me to stop for a second and explained to me that it doesn't work and hurts and that people might get angry if I keep doing it.
If someone does this in training and they have no clue, please do the same! It's your teammate after all!
mister stephan, what if it is a no gi? which part should you hold after you pull him onto you
You sir are an amazing teacher!
Not a personality thing for us, we were taught this in my school and all do it. After a year you start to get use to it and legs toughen up I guess. But we use it to momentarily transition or create space to start a proper pass.
i tried this and managed to establish butterfly but got stuffed pretty quickly (against a blue belt and i am a white). trying the butterfly sweep i went to the left side and he passed to the right. did i give him to much space repositioning from closed guard or is my butterfly guard the problem?
actually when you do it your supposed to sit up back straight. you know a setting up a pass and a counter against a triangle.
Marines were grinding my thighs, what if it's no gi?
I'm watching this as I nurse the inner thigh bruises left by an aggressive and unskilled whitebelt. Next time I'll be ready!
My exact problem with a new white belt. Thanks.
Your comment just made my day.
The problem with doing a guard pass with the elbows in the thighs, is that generally new people do not stick around because that crap hurts and is not fun. Gotta keep training funa dn playful!
You can keep your forearm on the thigh to prevent triagles/arm bars, but you do not have to grind them into the legs and be a jerk about it!
The knee in the tailbone works great, but its not your elbows breaking the guard, its your hips and the space you create.
I used to use the elbow guard break all the time. It hurts and eventually people open their guard. It does work. It works great verses lower level guys which I was one of. Higher level guys would also open their guard but they would move to 1000 other things when they opened it and submit me. But it is effective against low level people. but being a good noob isn't why we do BJJ so learn proper guard passes.
It is interesting how people complain about someone grinding on them when they are grappling but are perfectly OK with doing a submission such as an arm bar that can break someone's arm.
Ikr 😂 can't grind elbows into thighs but pulling guard 5 seconds into a match = no problem
the complaint is moreso how untechnical it is, similar to how a big guy tries to nose dive smash you when you have them in fullguard. I still kick their asses but i'm like, i'm tired of rolling with these white belts doing non jiu jitsu moves, it's not helping me in competition.
arm bars work this shit doesnt
Im also used to striking while on the ground so its a little different. Its very hard thing to stop especially when someone forms a base before doing it. Also you can't come up and pull them down like demonstrated without catching and elbow to the head. also two elbow to the solar plexus or floating ribs allow you to base up on the bottom and then sit straight up to set up a pass or break the guard and slide a knee through.
In actual combat, you can punch him in the face when he's grinding with his elbows.
Honestly I've never really trained just grappling (no striking), same as I don't train to use the GI. So is competition like judo torments this may be very true. ITs kind of like when you practice with strikes you practice to control the center line of the body more instead of wrist control.
I saw a verriation of the elbow grind where the objective was to use your weight and elbows to force the hips wider
Sparred with a guy, a veteran actually, who did this on my stomach!
Your actually taught that on some schools
Imo bjj is all about continuous flow. If he passed right as u were getting into position he had his timing down better, and you should have been able to go with it and roll into another position (given more training/exp of course). I don't think its really a problem with the position. Also everyone has strong and weak points, you just have to find out what works best for you.
Was it ever out???
@2:30 - tickling?
Whis brand is that gi ?
I bought a similar one in Canada...
+Nico Contreras Tatami Fightwear. I really recommend it.
Thank you. This video was very helpful.
In actual combat, grabbing his elbows leaves you open to a lot of shots to the head and face. However, in training for jiu jitsu, or in jiu jitsu tournaments I can see where this might have the desired effect.
Actually had a purple belt do this during guard pass drill.
Break his posture down in general. It's hard to get leverage when you're low attempting to elbow grind. Then you can get him in rubber.
I m a beginner , had a hard time today with another white belt, he dis this technique but with both of his fist
During an exercise ( not spare)
A guy that i train with does this, and only this. He doesn't really know how to do anything else, but he walks around trying to give advice to higher belts. No one likes him.
I played with this on a no-gi training day after i saw it and a brownbelt came up and told me that doing that is just going to piss people off (i was a white belt)... never did it again.
wildcat31772 Piss them off because you're breaking down their posture? Hurting their ego?
They should get better, then.
***** Yeah, but it works. Also, Biebs, I wasn't sure if you meant that or the defense.
***** Ok....so don't ever use elbow grind to pass the guard.....because you'll make people mad?
***** I see. It also seems to set you up for getting triangled.
These counters seem to have limited effectiveness in a situation where the person on top is striking. Forearms-in-thighs remains an effective technique, despite those who criticize its use.
My friend would dig his into my thighs. I am a big guy and was a noob and didn't have much on my back. They hurt like a SOB and I would keep pulling him down and he would work his way bacvk up and doing it again. It does force you to make a move eventually. I would usually let them go and work from half guard if I couldn't sweep them in full guard rather than keep in locked. But he is right. In comp with a time limit I could keep it locked regardless of the pain.
Using elbows is a pretty cheesy way to open the guard, but I don't necessarily think badly about a white belt trying it, perhaps if they don't know many good ways to escape. It is just not cool for, say, a purple belt to do it. Plus, it's really not effective, compared to the truer techniques... I just sit there pulling the elbow off while the person is burning energy and losing base.
When I do this, my opponent simply shoots for the underhooks instead.
Why would you use a grind without securing your hand on your opponent's belt or top of trousers? It limits 75% of the advice just given. Lock in at least one arm on a belt, quick elbow in the soft spot and it's a pretty effective opener. In all of these descriptions (I am usually a fan of this channel) the top person is completely inert while the instructor throws around. Not the best advice this one.
How strong? is the question. If you're using your strength, you've just given anyone stronger the edge. Meanwhile, the smaller man, who knows the limits of his strength, and is familiar with the specific ways in which strength is used, has already formulated an entire game plan for the instant your "strength" succeeds.
How about this in no gi?
whatever happened to oss
What does that even mean?
Congrats to Richie on his black belt!!
Once you submitt them, take a few minutes to show them a different way to break the guard... They will appreciate it and do will they future training partners... osss
Upside down pistachio nut guard...I have to try that!
I agree this technique is very white belt, BUT there's a very good guy at my gym (Not sure what belt, he seems not to care about that stuff), he gives blackbelts a good fight, and his game seems to really only be weak in leg/foot locks. Anyway, he uses many pain moves and other subs you might call "dick moves" to great effect.
The big but is, he doesn't elbow the upper thigh, he uses the leverage of his fairly short arms to put his elbow tips into that inside notch in your knees (yes he leans back a bit) and it is nearly impossible to grit and bear.
Anyway, my point is, this newb technique can be useful at a somewhat higher level with the right body type and proper application.
Tjanks
i used to grind my elbows not because I'm "aggro" but because that's what I was taught initially in a different martial art, not bjj
Lamest guard break ever.
I usually just yank his elbows a few times until he gets the message but Stephan has some great details.
The best way to stop it is to tell people who use it, and want to roll with you to go piss off.
to use my elbows like that is the first guard pass i learned in BJJ
It may work in MMA; don't know. In high-level grappling, it doesn't work. No good grappler is going to do anything but light you up for using such a newb maneuver. This guard break is a white and blue belt special.
Like Kesting says, this is one of those moves that can work in training, but not in competition.
Thanks for clearing that up Robert lol
Many Thanks for sharing!
Jbon, in answer to your question on the meaning of...
that
/T͟Hat/
Pronoun
Used to identify a specific person or thing observed by the speaker: "that's his wife over there".
Adjective
Used to identify a specific person or thing observed or heard by the speaker: "look at that man".
Adverb
To such a degree; so: "I would not go that far".
Conjunction
Introducing a subordinate clause expressing a statement or hypothesis: "she said that she was satisfied".
The problem with this video is no one ever does elbow in the thigh by itself. If they do then yes they're idiots, but elbow in the thigh is an integral part of any closed guard opening/pass. There's a reason world champions do it. And they do it on other world champs mind u with success.
ha ha the pistachiao nut guard love it
That's the first technique how they teach kids to open the guard
It’s not stupid if it works broski!!
THANK YOU!
Nobody ever passes anyone’s guard like that. Just stand up create leverage
Slightly disappointed on the advice being “change the guard”. I was looking for an answer not accepting the noob move and opening my guard :(
I find it to be very effective. You just have to know you target which is the major arties in the inside thigh or the minor ligaments in the knee. Same principle of and inside leg kick. If done right you opponent develops are rather nasty limp and losses legibility of the that leg. of course I not used to pure judo also used to striking on the ground.
also i hear all these people complaining that this is such a crappy thing to do to a training partner because it hurts... um so i guess any submission is a crappy thing to do to a training partner because it hurts... maybe just taking a nap holding each other would be a better way to train jig jitsu.. lol wtf
:) A very helpful video!
yeah, muscle bound dufus. the word "dufus" is too good, it needs to come back.
pistachio nut guard !
never saw this dumb type of elbow into tighs, he should hold his belt when doing that, this way using belt as handle leverage force several times, plus it wont let opponent to slide out like in this video.
also if you put hands under elbows you open your neck and collar.
not trying to be a wise guy here its just my opinion. i've never done bjj (or what ever it is), i do judo. i know elbows into tighs very effective, makes you think and move quicker.
Pistachio guard.. gotta google dat..
Popped back to this video because a black belt over on the BJJ over 40 FB group swears the elbow grind is a legit move. I like to show all due respect to black belts, but no it's not.
I'm the noob grinding the elbows :(
I just started and everyone that gets in my guard dies this
"certain personality".... it's a white belt who hasn't been taught any guard passes and is being told to roll on their first times out. I did this my first 2-3 weeks rolling. It's not a steroid thing, it's part of the spaz phase. As the recipient, you try being a good training partner and walk them through 2-3 guard passes and tell them why the elbow grind won't work.