I love this channel and have learned a lot from it which I am great full. Now…budget guns for me are anything under £500. I know you get what you pay for but if you are in tight budget which is most people i know, starting to learn the sport, and want to distress from usual work pressures, you can have a bawl for under £500. I started with s/s aya battered to bits, overpriced (payed £125 should have payed under 100), then moved to a armsan a612 semi auto, great gun for vermin work, and game, that set me back £250, including 3 chokes, almost brand new. After that I started to be bit more serious about sporting/skeet and DTL and bought a rizzini side plate fixed chokes, in need of some tlc but was the gun that gave me the most results and again cost me £210, wood needed Some love and forend had a small crack, but is still going strong. Finally got a Browning medalist multichoke, longer barrel and bit heavy for £200. Had a small repaired crack on stoke but so far I’m really happy with results I get. I competed against folk equipped with £2000 plus guns and gave them a good run for their money …I must say that all the guns I bought were some kind of cheaper version of guns reviewed or recommended in this channel for which I continue to be great full and will continue to enjoy your videos
They all will break targets but how will they hold up after 5 - 10K rounds put through them? That is the selling point. Years ago when I shot Helice Tournaments I shot a SC3 Perazzi and expensive shells. A kid who was local would show up with his $400 Berretta auto shooting cheap promo ammo and win the money. So any gun will break targets in the right person's hands.
I started shooting sporting about 18 months ago and still only have the 1st gun I bought which was a SH Bettinsoli it suits me fine and I haven’t found it necessary to buy a more expensive gun or a second gun yet I get out enjoy my rounds sometimes good sometimes poor but each one very much fun , great video thank you
My ATA sp bronze is still going strong two years on now, thousands of cartridges through it (past the cost of the gun) I got it as my first gun with full intentions to upgrade down the line but haven’t found a reason to just yet 😊
Yes a really great video! I have to say I was caught up in purchasing a “Budget” trap gun here in the states, I choose a Tristar TT-15 DTA, I will say at my club I got some looks of disapproval when I set the gun in the rack on the line, and yes the ever present line of “ I know a guy” when other members spoke of issues with the gun! Now with that all said, I have roughly 2500 rounds through the gun, and have had only 1 issue of a fastener on the stock adjustment coming loose, Yes it is not my 101 live pigeon, those do get a nod of improvement, but honestly they shoot no better then the budget guns, what I am trying to say is don’t be afraid of a budget gun, you may have to put a few dollars into it, but they can and will perform head to head with the big dollar guns!
If it dosen't fit you, dosen't matter if it's 2000 pounds or 200, new or s/h. I'd go for the new Bettinsoli or a s/h Browning/Miroku/Winchester/Beretta. Nice to see you guys have improved the sound quality of the videos too.
Thoroughly recommend a visit to the home of TSC, the Oxford Gun Co. Great service and advice in selecting a shotgun for you! Lessons are great with the instruction tailored to suit. A great experience!
If your budget is low I think a semi auto is a better choice than an over under at similar price. I bought a Franchi Affinity back in 2017 for $700 that has proven to be a formidable, reliable clay buster. I don't think any over under new at that price would be the same.
It's nice to see you guys catering for the shooter on a budget/first time buyer. I did cringe every time David laid the guns down on that concrete bench though....Ouch!
David I bought a Yildiz HP 20 ga. from the Academy . It's beautifully made, but the barrels are not regulated properly. The lower barrel diverges -- shoot noticeably low. It's at Briley in Houston Texas negotiating a fix under warranty. You speak well about these guns, but would you please pattern them so we can see if they can achieve job 1: to hit per the bead... both barrels. Then I'll believe they are a quality bargain.
Thats great news if you need a help to find the right gun for you to start with please give the team at Oxford Gun Company a call on 01844 238 308 they will be more then happy to help you with your new gun and they may even give you a free lesson when you buy your first gun. Thanks TSC team.
@@dazzler5012 Thanks if you would like to give David a call on 01844 238 308 he would love to help you before you get it and point you to a good gun shop to get it from.
Get a well known and tested through years gun from a reputable manufacturer, and you can't go wrong. Get a second hand Beretta or Browning over under with internal chokes and you will be just fine, for years to come...But on a budget, a Bettinsoli ,with its classic Brescia mechanism and inertia trigger is far more reliable and stylish than the turkish guns
My home visit is due, so once that is complete then it will be either the Bettinsoli or Yildiz for me. Went and shot the ATA recently and really liked it but I think I’m leaning towards the Bettinsoli purely on the aesthetics.
Thanks Andrew and I am glad you like the film if you would like to give David a call on 01844 238 308 he would love to chat though this thought with you to help you. Thanks TSC team.
Thanks for your feed back you should of had a look at all these guns before you bright it if you need any help please call the gun room at The Oxford Gun Company on 01844 238 308. Thanks TSC Team.
Would you recommend an ATA SP as a work horse gun? A gun to shoot everything from thrush to duck with lead or steel shot? I don't have a big budget and would like an inexpensive gun to use with every kind of load
They are ok before you buy one I would have a chat to Doug, Toby at The Oxford Gun Company give one of them a call tomorrow on 01844 238 308 they will be more then happy to chat though some ideas for you you can ask for David but he is all over the place at the moment with clients I hope that helps? Thanks TSC team.
Thanks for your comment if you give Doug or Toby at The Oxford Gun Company on 01844 238 308 they would love to chat to you about this gun. Thanks The TSC Team.
Yes they are one of the best cheep guns on the market just a shame they don't make guns any more if you look back on the Channel we have done a film on them, Oxford Gun Company have got a few in so if you like them give Doug a call in the gun room on 01844 238 308. Thanks TSC team.
Lets say you want a new shot gun but the LOP is a 1/4 of inch short so you decide to add a pad to get the LOP you need. But now you change the pitch between the heel and toe throwing the Toe angle off what do you do? Tha ks
I love this channel and have learned a lot from it which I am great full.
Now…budget guns for me are anything under £500. I know you get what you pay for but if you are in tight budget which is most people i know, starting to learn the sport, and want to distress from usual work pressures, you can have a bawl for under £500.
I started with s/s aya battered to bits, overpriced (payed £125 should have payed under 100), then moved to a armsan a612 semi auto, great gun for vermin work, and game, that set me back £250, including 3 chokes, almost brand new. After that I started to be bit more serious about sporting/skeet and DTL and bought a rizzini side plate fixed chokes, in need of some tlc but was the gun that gave me the most results and again cost me £210, wood needed Some love and forend had a small crack, but is still going strong. Finally got a Browning medalist multichoke, longer barrel and bit heavy for £200. Had a small repaired crack on stoke but so far I’m really happy with results I get. I competed against folk equipped with £2000 plus guns and gave them a good run for their money …I must say that all the guns I bought were some kind of cheaper version of guns reviewed or recommended in this channel for which I continue to be great full and will continue to enjoy your videos
They all will break targets but how will they hold up after 5 - 10K rounds put through them? That is the selling point.
Years ago when I shot Helice Tournaments I shot a SC3 Perazzi and expensive shells. A kid who was local would show up with his $400 Berretta auto shooting cheap promo ammo and win the money. So any gun will break targets in the right person's hands.
I started shooting sporting about 18 months ago and still only have the 1st gun I bought which was a SH Bettinsoli it suits me fine and I haven’t found it necessary to buy a more expensive gun or a second gun yet I get out enjoy my rounds sometimes good sometimes poor but each one very much fun , great video thank you
My ATA sp bronze is still going strong two years on now, thousands of cartridges through it (past the cost of the gun) I got it as my first gun with full intentions to upgrade down the line but haven’t found a reason to just yet 😊
Great advice, been wanting to get a fire arm of my own for shooting for a while the only issued being the upfront cost
Yes a really great video! I have to say I was caught up in purchasing a “Budget” trap gun here in the states, I choose a Tristar TT-15 DTA, I will say at my club I got some looks of disapproval when I set the gun in the rack on the line, and yes the ever present line of “ I know a guy” when other members spoke of issues with the gun! Now with that all said, I have roughly 2500 rounds through the gun, and have had only 1 issue of a fastener on the stock adjustment coming loose,
Yes it is not my 101 live pigeon, those do get a nod of improvement, but honestly they shoot no better then the budget guns, what I am trying to say is don’t be afraid of a budget gun, you may have to put a few dollars into it, but they can and will perform head to head with the big dollar guns!
If it dosen't fit you, dosen't matter if it's 2000 pounds or 200, new or s/h.
I'd go for the new Bettinsoli or a s/h Browning/Miroku/Winchester/Beretta.
Nice to see you guys have improved the sound quality of the videos too.
Thanks for your nice comments TSC team.
Thoroughly recommend a visit to the home of TSC, the Oxford Gun Co. Great service and advice in selecting a shotgun for you! Lessons are great with the instruction tailored to suit. A great experience!
Beautifull videos,thanks for the advices,greetings from Creece
Congrats on 25k subscribers. I enjoy the short and snappy videos but not so much videos of empty sky that might have clays in them that I can’t see!
Thank you and we will take your comments on Thanks TSC team.
If your budget is low I think a semi auto is a better choice than an over under at similar price.
I bought a Franchi Affinity back in 2017 for $700 that has proven to be a formidable, reliable clay buster.
I don't think any over under new at that price would be the same.
I think I’d prefer a second hand Beretta or Miroku for my £1000 ,at least I know it would hold it’s value.
It's nice to see you guys catering for the shooter on a budget/first time buyer. I did cringe every time David laid the guns down on that concrete bench though....Ouch!
I agree, I would have had the gun’s gun slip underneath each one. I heard the shotgun hitting the concrete bench and go clunk. Yikes!
It's clearly a wooden bench.
Great timing, I had my home visit 5 weeks ago so should get my SGC soon. And I'm look in just this price range.
Thanks for a great comment if you would like to give David a call on 01844 238 308 he will be happy to help you with your new gun. Thanks TSC Team.
David I bought a Yildiz HP 20 ga. from the Academy . It's beautifully made, but the barrels are not regulated properly. The lower barrel diverges -- shoot noticeably low. It's at Briley in Houston Texas negotiating a fix under warranty. You speak well about these guns, but would you please pattern them so we can see if they can achieve job 1: to hit per the bead... both barrels. Then I'll believe they are a quality bargain.
Kahn Arms fully adjustable
Just waiting for my home visit then I'm away. Thanks for this great insightful video.
Thats great news if you need a help to find the right gun for you to start with please give the team at Oxford Gun Company a call on 01844 238 308 they will be more then happy to help you with your new gun and they may even give you a free lesson when you buy your first gun. Thanks TSC team.
@@TSCTheshootingchannel thank you but I'm based in norfolk so your a little far away. Plus, I'm pretty sure the bettonsoli is for me. Thanks
@@dazzler5012 Thanks if you would like to give David a call on 01844 238 308 he would love to help you before you get it and point you to a good gun shop to get it from.
@@TSCTheshootingchannel will do
Get a well known and tested through years gun from a reputable manufacturer, and you can't go wrong. Get a second hand Beretta or Browning over under with internal chokes and you will be just fine, for years to come...But on a budget, a Bettinsoli ,with its classic Brescia mechanism and inertia trigger is far more reliable and stylish than the turkish guns
Thank you for your great comment and I am glad you enjoyed the film and Channel. Thanks TSC Team.
My home visit is due, so once that is complete then it will be either the Bettinsoli or Yildiz for me.
Went and shot the ATA recently and really liked it but I think I’m leaning towards the Bettinsoli purely on the aesthetics.
Thanks Andrew and I am glad you like the film if you would like to give David a call on 01844 238 308 he would love to chat though this thought with you to help you. Thanks TSC team.
My first gun was a ATA SP. Okay gun, kicked a lot, and I found it had no cast in the stock.
Thanks for your feed back you should of had a look at all these guns before you bright it if you need any help please call the gun room at The Oxford Gun Company on 01844 238 308. Thanks TSC Team.
Get a Nikko over and under, 300 quid and they go bang and hit clays.
Great video, no rizzinis or browning medalist? Or am I so far apart from the 90s?
The Lincoln is a Rizzini- F.A.I.R. The Medallist was Sabatti IIRC
Hi Dave. I see that you do not use the Shotkam anymore. Is it for sale? p.s Good advice here as always!
I thought you shot the ATA best!
Thanks for your nice comment.
A poor man can only afford the best
Would you recommend an ATA SP as a work horse gun? A gun to shoot everything from thrush to duck with lead or steel shot? I don't have a big budget and would like an inexpensive gun to use with every kind of load
They are ok before you buy one I would have a chat to Doug, Toby at The Oxford Gun Company give one of them a call tomorrow on 01844 238 308 they will be more then happy to chat though some ideas for you you can ask for David but he is all over the place at the moment with clients I hope that helps? Thanks TSC team.
Have you ever considered anything from ether TriStar or CZ ?
Bettinsoli all day if it fit's
Thanks for your nice comment.
Can you ship to the US?
If you email Alex on contactus@theshootingchannel.co.uk we may be able to sort this for you Thanks TSC Team.
Any thoughts on the ATA elagence ?
Thanks for your comment if you give Doug or Toby at The Oxford Gun Company on 01844 238 308 they would love to chat to you about this gun. Thanks The TSC Team.
So funny....this guy could shoot 10/10 clays with a spoon....😁....
Arma cu şocuri cît costă?
Are Lanber shotguns good?
Yes they are one of the best cheep guns on the market just a shame they don't make guns any more if you look back on the Channel we have done a film on them, Oxford Gun Company have got a few in so if you like them give Doug a call in the gun room on 01844 238 308. Thanks TSC team.
Lets say you want a new shot gun but the LOP is a 1/4 of inch short so you decide to add a pad to get the LOP you need. But now you change the pitch between the heel and toe throwing the Toe angle off what do you do? Tha ks
Good job
putting your hand over the muzzle made me cringe abit but otherwise good video