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  • @Sheen..
    @Sheen.. 2 года назад +116

    You could also try a brown background color, as a tree stump for example. Could look interesting.

    • @tripleUnicorn
      @tripleUnicorn 2 года назад +9

      I like this idea a lot. I also think having a more sand color based background for sandy substrate enclosures could look really nice.
      I did like mixing the highlight colors; having a little cream and a little mossy color is interesting visually.
      All in all a lovely video, and cool experiments.

    • @hitech7772
      @hitech7772 2 года назад +3

      I was thinking a dark brown background. 👍🏻

    • @kory5179
      @kory5179 2 года назад +1

      Brown would go good with the green highlights on certain sections

  • @moleculeman27
    @moleculeman27 2 года назад +77

    Well played, Petko. You have invented anti-ASMR.

    • @robinferdinandsen7122
      @robinferdinandsen7122 2 года назад +9

      Was thinking the same... had to turn down the volume for the cutting and brushing 🤣

    • @juan2three6
      @juan2three6 2 года назад +2

      Dude it was soo uncomfortable lolol

    • @Mac-po1sr
      @Mac-po1sr 2 года назад +4

      Gave me flash backs of the ASMR styrofoam cutting video he once did. More like PTSD than flashbacks actually.

    • @GIITW.5OKC
      @GIITW.5OKC 2 года назад +2

      I wasn't sure what you were referring.. But I just hit that portion in the video.. Eeegh thats horrible, volume down!

  • @MrTrigun1
    @MrTrigun1 2 года назад +6

    Really want to thank you man. All my life I've been scared of spiders. Then about 3 or 4 years ago I found your channel.
    I watched all your videos, branched out to other tarantula and invert based channels. Now I own four baby Ts myself, and I have a new found love and appreciation for all things creepy crawly. In honor of that I named my new Psalmopoeus irminia "Petko". Thank you!

  • @RamoArt
    @RamoArt 2 года назад +53

    From an artists perspective I'd say the more variation in color the backgrounds have the better. But you seemed to have figured that out yourself when you added the green dry brushing in some areas. A very dark brown would probably look more natural than black because black is a cool color whereas the substrate you use is a very warm brown, so it doesn't really go together

    • @RealMelodyBlue
      @RealMelodyBlue 2 года назад +2

      I'm an artist also, good idea you have!

    • @dtoons1100
      @dtoons1100 2 года назад +3

      Seconded, by fellow artist

    • @hikariizuki1693
      @hikariizuki1693 2 года назад +1

      I think if he put small stones at the bottom it could blend in too with the black, or add more green at the bottom like growing moss

  • @binkyboo4793
    @binkyboo4793 2 года назад +21

    I think black for the base, with dark grey and a bit of green on top would be ideal. To be fair, they all look pretty appealing.

  • @headrockbeats
    @headrockbeats 2 года назад +11

    You can use a sandy color for the background too, especially for enclosures with a light substrate (e.g. sand). Desert rocks are often sand colored.
    Source: Living in a desert my whole life.

  • @krlllmn
    @krlllmn 2 года назад +17

    The 3rd one looks good. I guess you should use that for enclosures that will have sand substrate. The color goes well with sand. While the black backgrounds go well with dirt. Great video as always, Petko!

  • @janikauta2275
    @janikauta2275 2 года назад +6

    "This is not sand for the texture. This is sand for the sand."

  • @Demyxu
    @Demyxu 2 года назад +6

    A dark red-brown would be good for the substrate to kinda go for the woodsy feel. For sand, I'd use a more sandy brown or something just a bit darker than a khaki brown that way it can kinda blend up from the sand. You can also have that fade up into a lighter color by brushing either another lighter brown or maybe even a grey/offwhite near the top. Near the bottom I'd add a hint of red-brown to add variety. At least from an artistic perspective that's what I would do to give it variety that still emulated the environments.

  • @tarantulamum4322
    @tarantulamum4322 2 года назад +1

    maybe a cork bark background, or maybe try something that's got a hide built into the background

  • @asylumental
    @asylumental 2 года назад +1

    They way you are making the backgrounds reminds me of sculpting battlefields for table top games such as Warhammer

  • @brutusinthesin5883
    @brutusinthesin5883 2 года назад +1

    With the light grey backgrounds you could try dry brushing black in the cracks.

  • @asylumental
    @asylumental 2 года назад +1

    Watching the balfouri try to squeeze into the non-existent tunnel was pretty dang funny 😁

  • @keldelp
    @keldelp 2 года назад

    I like the variety of backgrounds and your creative process.

  • @mmolesworth0
    @mmolesworth0 2 года назад +1

    I love how creative you are and appreciate the build videos! A painting tip, once you are done with the dry brushing, you can apply a “wash” (which is just watered down black or brown paint) that can help with shading in the recesses. Hope this helps!

  • @DR-gt2vh
    @DR-gt2vh 2 года назад +2

    Instead of painting brighter color on the BG with "dry brush", you can try applying thinned dark color to a bright background using a technique called "washing".
    Maybe you can use "glue-spray" to add some sand or substrate to the bottom of the BG for better blending in.

  • @morgan1985uk
    @morgan1985uk 2 года назад +8

    You should look into buying a hot wire foam cutter. It will really help you make more detail background.

  • @tkuhel12
    @tkuhel12 2 года назад +4

    Looks great! You are so creative! By the way, I could listen to you talk all day. Love your accent!

  • @MerynMTG
    @MerynMTG 2 года назад

    I like #4 the best because the grey accents are complimented well by the bright webs. So maybe if you use the black and grey again, you can add some light grey stones in the enclosure to match with the background.

  • @Smilomaniac
    @Smilomaniac 2 года назад +2

    Petko, bre, you have super interesting stones, cliffs and rocks in the world in Croatia, beautiful white stone and marble.
    Why not collect some for the enclosures? You can use them to break up the saturated brown bottom so it fits in nicer with that grey one with the green drybrushing.

  • @y.a100
    @y.a100 2 года назад +2

    i actually usually like to get a big piece of styrofoam and make one massive background with details and stuff, than cut it to 2 / 3 equal pieces and use it for 2 or 3 different terrarium that i place near each other, the background kinda makes it seem like its connected, like continuation and i really like it, but glad to see you experimenting with this type of backgrounds i really like the end results.
    also highlights are usually used on darker bases to bring out details, using light color highlights on light color background as you seen wouldnt work properly for this application, i like also glueing pieces of carved styrofoarm to backgrounds i make to add detail before painting, you can make branches or roots using this technique and a lot more cool stuff, try using some brown colors that works well with light green highlights on some black/dark colored background imo

  • @dj_spaulding
    @dj_spaulding 2 года назад +1

    Awesome enclosers Petko!!👍👍👍
    But I think next time, we can do without the Styrofoam cutting montages, 😵 (it's like nails on a chalkboard) 😂

  • @MiGWar82
    @MiGWar82 2 года назад

    I like all them especially when they're mixed up to give a pop of color

  • @mathewm1418
    @mathewm1418 2 года назад +1

    Napokon neki Hrvatski Pet RUclipsr, super videi samo tako

  • @maryobcidian1773
    @maryobcidian1773 2 года назад

    Black ones with grey/beuge details are top for spiders with soil, but grey one with sand are amazing too 😍

  • @dougiesmith4787
    @dougiesmith4787 2 года назад

    Another fine display! Well done. I have had terracotta coloured backgrounds in the past. Might be an option? Keep up the good work.

  • @AutumnalAussies
    @AutumnalAussies 2 года назад +3

    I'd recommend checking out some of Serpa Designs terrarium builds, he goes over his background painting process in several videos and had some really nice realistic ones that are very aesthetically pleasing.

  • @judygwen4281
    @judygwen4281 2 года назад

    Your backgrounds turned out BEAUTIFUL!!

  • @JabbuGuy
    @JabbuGuy 2 года назад

    Yess new video! i just discovered your channel a few days ago and i am hooked. it's very inspiring and you have good knowledge and personality : >

  • @616Entertainment
    @616Entertainment 2 года назад

    I feel like it's been a while since we've had a scorpion centric episode. Can we get some scorpions soon please?!

  • @awesomeanimalswithalishav5874
    @awesomeanimalswithalishav5874 2 года назад

    The variety is nice. More colors added to the backgrounds and different techniques would make them look more natural. Try doing a black background, then a wash of watered down darkened grey, topped with a dry painting of the light grey and then splatter tiny specks of yellow. Rocks are usually more colorful than you realize. Try looking at a rock you want to match, like granite, and see what colors it is and how the colors change as crevices will be darker and areas more exposed will be lighter.
    Matching the background color to the sand is sometimes a nice touch as sand around rocks has often come from the rocks breaking down, so they'd be the same color. You can even coat the foam with the sand you're using to make it match better. Australian Outback oranges & browns are also nice and would work well for this type of project.
    Making the foam into rocks isn't the only thing you could do. Some of my tanks came with foam backgrounds carved & painted into a bamboo forest, a mangrove swamp, and a cork sheet. Look up Exo-Terra backgrounds to get some ideas. I've also made some backgrounds out of actual rocks affixed to the back with silicone. The tank I got for my T. albopilosus came with a cracked glass, so I coated it with black silicone & plastic patches, then added more silicone and a bunch of sticks. More sticks sticking out of the substrate in front made it looked like a forest for my Goldilocks. Since T. vagans are sometimes called Black Velvet Tarantulas, I got a sheet of sticky-backed velvet paper in royal blue for his background and added a skull & some fake roses. It worked surprisingly well, though maybe not for a T that needed more humidity or in an area prone to mold. He seemed to like the feel of it. You could put all sorts of things on the back to have a lot of variety.

  • @blackbetty2946
    @blackbetty2946 2 года назад

    Black looks great! Even gray with more desert species. Just have fun experimenting! Thanks so much for sharing

  • @ianperry8557
    @ianperry8557 2 года назад

    I’m super excited to see you sell your enclosures! I absolutely love their design and of course I would love to support you more :)

  • @Roseyforyou
    @Roseyforyou 2 года назад

    I really like the black background with a mossy spot. The grey and no-basecolor backgrounds look great with sand. I wonder if you should collab with some artsy youtubers like for example Ace of Clay and/or Ben's Worx to help you nail the background or hiding spot. Imagine if someone made you a hyper realistic rock or a tree stump for your enclosure and you let them have their logo on it too. Ace of Clay basically is the master using clay and dry brushing techniques. Ben's Worx just made a hyper realistic diorama not too long ago, so I would go for him for ideas on backgrounds.

  • @MissEwe
    @MissEwe 2 года назад +1

    The Dark Den looks AMAZING Petko! As always amazing content 👌

  • @OmniusFS.exotics
    @OmniusFS.exotics 2 года назад

    Looks like your warhammer painting skills came in handy for the backgrounds

  • @Gargboss
    @Gargboss 2 года назад

    Drybrushing for applying visibly brighter colours than the base colour, washing for applying darker colours than the base colour. Washing is even simpler and kind of the reverse of drybrushing. You thin down the colour until it is watery and runny and slosh it all over. Thanks to the high water content the pigments will move into the recesses when the paint dries.
    Combine both for even better effects! You could start with a dark/middle grey as the foundation, apply 1-2 brighter drybrushing steps, then wash with very thin dark brown/black. If you're still willing to improve: a few green spots for algae/moss. That was a good idea, just needs some practice to develop an eye for the places where it looks natural.

  • @kowal6969
    @kowal6969 2 года назад

    Black backgroumd with grey highlights looks the best

  • @nicolaslorenzo746
    @nicolaslorenzo746 2 года назад +1

    The gray one looks nice with the sand, but overall the black background enclosures are the best. Maybe for your next enclosures with sand the background could take on a color of like marble or granite, or something to make it look like Egyptian stones used in pyramids or ruins.

  • @rkhnd51
    @rkhnd51 2 года назад

    I like the two dark enclosures and the one with the sand.

  • @crazycanuckmick
    @crazycanuckmick 2 года назад +1

    The big walls of enclosures and black backgrounds look amazing.
    They're artistic.
    Great job, Petko! 😎👍

  • @sherimoen617
    @sherimoen617 2 года назад

    I like the whole sand one. I also like #5 background. Color matches depending on what you put on yhe bottom. Great work.

  • @melaniezagata4402
    @melaniezagata4402 2 года назад +1

    That background looks fantastic Petko!

  • @carolinecarty1829
    @carolinecarty1829 2 года назад

    They all look so good. You are a real artist

  • @MrsKatieQ
    @MrsKatieQ 2 года назад

    They all look great. Good to have some variety ☺️

  • @beltzrobert
    @beltzrobert 2 года назад

    A tip from a miniatures painter, get a big fluffy make up brush for your dry brushing step. It makes the highlights look more natural

  • @bonniemullennax6181
    @bonniemullennax6181 2 года назад

    They all look great I love the white against the sand!

  • @matthewrapley8900
    @matthewrapley8900 2 года назад

    Definitely the darker background with vertical grooves👍🏻

  • @Shooshoobella7
    @Shooshoobella7 2 года назад

    I think as a stand alone color, the black backgrounds look the best. But honestly, having them lined up next to each other, I really liked the contrast between the light and dark backgrounds. I thought it brought more visual interest. Thanks for all the good info!

  • @fallenmind153
    @fallenmind153 2 года назад

    I don't like the gray ones by themselves but when you pair them with a black one so I think it actually looks better because there's variety

  • @KAXGaming
    @KAXGaming 2 года назад

    Seeing a Tarantula crawl upside down understuff is so surreal. I forget Tarantula's are "Spiders". We rarely see them in these situations because their mass compared to short height drops often kill them outright.

  • @MissEwe
    @MissEwe 2 года назад

    There are a lot of red rocks where I live - I think a darker reddish brown with the cream tan color would be great for enclosures with sand as substrate

  • @Heatwave5043
    @Heatwave5043 2 года назад

    I have to say the third one with the sand looks rather good for it's environment, but if I have to choose I'll say number 4 keeps getting my attention. Nonetheless they all look very good as usual.

  • @brookssaunders8733
    @brookssaunders8733 2 года назад +1

    With the lighter backgrounds you could use a wash much like you would when painting on a plastic warhammer miniature. For the cream backgrounds you could use a watered down brown paint. The watered down paint will flow into cracks and dull down the base layer. Once the brown wash is dry then you can dry brush with the cream color to bring back some highlights.

    • @asylumental
      @asylumental 2 года назад +1

      I've also been trying to leave comments to tell him to lookup painting guides for warhammer

  • @carolinecarty1829
    @carolinecarty1829 2 года назад

    The forth back ground looks really good. I am going to try to make those for my six Ts.

  • @Alejandro-zv1zq
    @Alejandro-zv1zq 2 года назад

    All of them came out really nice !!

  • @sameguy6854
    @sameguy6854 2 года назад

    Dude it looks amazing with all those enclosures greetings from Denmark

  • @ThomasTheArachnerd
    @ThomasTheArachnerd 2 года назад

    I’m low-key happy centipede got the best looking enclosure 😄

  • @jasongonzales5563
    @jasongonzales5563 2 года назад

    I work at a saw mill. I have all kinds of awesome bark and tree knots at my finger tips free of charge. I get them dried drill the knots and what not out for hides then secure them in my enclosures. Every one looks different and all look great. Its addicting to do it. But everybody at work knows to out cool bark chunks in a pile for me to sift thru

  • @Slavador2393
    @Slavador2393 2 года назад

    Your new enclosures look good, but I like #4 the most.

  • @Miss_Mellie_Girl
    @Miss_Mellie_Girl 2 года назад

    I like the black one best, but I think a cream, or brown base would be cool. Thanks Petko!

  • @WD-1477
    @WD-1477 2 года назад

    *Yeeeessss!! I want my own Dark Den enclosure!!! WOOOHOOOOO!* 🎉

  • @snakefabel
    @snakefabel 2 года назад

    i have never been close to death than when you started marking and cutting the styrofoam. i actually had to take my headphones off, lol. great video, though.

  • @jordanwheeler2552
    @jordanwheeler2552 2 года назад +1

    ok did anyone else think to themselves "for the texture" when he put substrate on the sand hahaha cuz i did! also that its kinda funny how hes putting substrate on sand when normally its sand on the substrate.

  • @valqri6551
    @valqri6551 2 года назад

    The predaceous ground beetle (the Anthia thoracica) is quite common where I'm from, South Africa, in the Karoo, so maybe adjusting enclosures to karoo conditions could be useful. I hope you get another one :)

  • @lindagrant801
    @lindagrant801 2 года назад

    Love the variety!

  • @netoj1200
    @netoj1200 2 года назад +1

    I think a darker green with a black background would be just beautiful ❤️
    Or maybe with a brown blackgroud culd be interesting🤔

  • @Lightman0359
    @Lightman0359 2 года назад

    Try yellow with a sporadic green drybrush next time in your next sand enclosure. It should give an oasis or jungle beach type vibe. Dark green will show better.
    If you want an "evil" or volcanic vibe [like for devil or a light colored animal to spot it better], you could do the expanding foam thing again, only carving out the higher surfaces. base the whole thing red, apply a heavy black drybrush [making it almost black] and a very light grey drybrush on the raised flat surfaces. Follow this up with an orange and maybe yellow drybrush in the rounded "Valleys". This should give the appearance of cooling and cracking magma or burning coals.

  • @catherinedavis1690
    @catherinedavis1690 2 года назад

    Depends on the color of the tarantula, if the T is black a lighter background would show it off more perhaps and vise-versus. There is a bunch of grey rock all around where I live so I like the grey too.

  • @bjornvandooren6115
    @bjornvandooren6115 2 года назад

    I like the very first one. Black with yellow. Looks so nice. But maybe brown base with green highlights could be a nice combination. I will definitely try this technique to.

  • @elbundy
    @elbundy 2 года назад

    cool to see how effort turns into quality :D

  • @luisamartina9711
    @luisamartina9711 2 года назад

    I like the black with grey on top background the best!

  • @poisonedtea7518
    @poisonedtea7518 2 года назад +1

    the black one really looks good!
    if yoou want to get aa better moss effect try making a spot with a darker green first and then drybrush with the lighter one over it
    and (i thinnk someone said it already but still) you could also try a brown backround thats looking llike wood or something...i think it would look nice and i thinks it would be not that difficoult to make, you can just use a bit more of that plaster so it will add more texture!
    (also, i really love your videos. you made me lose my little phobia of spiders and now i can even handle them wiitout a problem

  • @manslayerwi338
    @manslayerwi338 2 года назад

    I think the third one looks really good with sand substrate

  • @jb222111
    @jb222111 2 года назад

    I think the black backgrounds look very realistic! Fun watching you make them, seems you know how to do a lot of stuff!
    🙂

  • @zackparkinson696
    @zackparkinson696 2 года назад

    amazing vid like always i really like the black background more

  • @zhamirdiaz3196
    @zhamirdiaz3196 2 года назад

    Omg I almost died when you were cutting the Styrofoam!!!

  • @Djeante
    @Djeante 2 года назад +5

    How does this guy not have 1 million subs yet, like c'mon

    • @TheDarkDen
      @TheDarkDen  2 года назад +4

      exotic lair stole all the subs :'D

    • @Djeante
      @Djeante 2 года назад

      Lol

    • @placebosand
      @placebosand 2 года назад

      @@TheDarkDen Actually I came from exotic lair. I like your style of the videos much more...

  • @Anthlocke
    @Anthlocke 2 года назад

    my suggestion: add some black to the grey to make it a bit darker and use it as the base coat. Then drybrush black on the lowlights and the grey or cream for the highlights, then the green for a few mossy patches

  • @crypticsavant420
    @crypticsavant420 Год назад

    U could always try shading your backgrounds with a hue of a color of the species your keeping

  • @noraleestone2859
    @noraleestone2859 2 года назад +1

    This is not going to be a popular answer about the backgrounds, Petko, but I like them all. That's because they represent the same variety that's found in Nature. Obviously, some colours will look better with certain substrates. As some others have commented, you can also try using browns, oranges and reds to mimic desert colours. Really, it's whichever background you like the best. If you're happy, we're all happy. :D See you next time.

  • @karynsztabaluk1479
    @karynsztabaluk1479 2 года назад

    Great tutorial, absolutely love your collection. You and exotics lair got me into keeping. I sub to soooo many keeper's channels tho. Tarantula Kat called you "Dork Den" in last week's vid and i thought it was so funny. You guys are awesome

  • @ThePathOfAshes
    @ThePathOfAshes 2 года назад

    maybe have a look into paint washes, you could dilute some black with water and use it over the lighter backgrounds to add more definition to it

  • @cherbearian
    @cherbearian 2 года назад

    It's the fourth for me. I'm doing a big foam background for my Kunashir Island Rat Snake (E. climacophora) and am using a brown "mocha" color

  • @marcelduchna2109
    @marcelduchna2109 2 года назад

    if you glue 3 or 4 pieces together you can carve more details or you could carve caves instead of pressing a hole in the substrate :)

  • @GeorgeLeite
    @GeorgeLeite 2 года назад

    4th background. That would be great with plants. The light backgrounds look like cement walls.

  • @franciscahazlet4021
    @franciscahazlet4021 2 года назад

    I think you are on to something with your backgrounds. I would say # 4 looks best. Well done.

  • @pinkluver7715
    @pinkluver7715 2 года назад

    In my personal opinion; 3 & 4 were best of the selections. The brighter background worked well with the sand and black with cream works for soil.

  • @Mac-po1sr
    @Mac-po1sr 2 года назад

    Black looks best but I like the variety and the light color looks very good with sand.

  • @benives254
    @benives254 2 года назад

    You could try a wash (heavily watered paint) as well as dry brushing

  • @asylumental
    @asylumental 2 года назад +1

    I noticed woth your tests, that you didn't try to dry brush black onto the Grey background
    But 2, 3, and 4 are my favorites

  • @dahgman3225
    @dahgman3225 2 года назад

    I think black with grey dry-brushing and green highlights is the best, maybe a slightly richer green

  • @ethandooley9945
    @ethandooley9945 2 года назад

    A tree trunk effect could look cool like they have there tunnel at the base of a tree, also would modelling grass work as moss stuck on the background, could add some texture/colour.

  • @Goldenrod6901
    @Goldenrod6901 2 года назад

    I love watching your videos while I drill my AMAC boxes 💛

  • @Levi-he6nj
    @Levi-he6nj Год назад

    What a Cute and Scary looking little/Big HairballZzz

  • @chris_p6345
    @chris_p6345 2 года назад

    Hey Petco! I love no.3 I would love Asian Forest Scorpion in that setting it might be weird but muuch love from South Africa!

  • @toff_ant2198
    @toff_ant2198 2 года назад

    Please do a video on how to make your enclosures they are awesome especially the swing open doors

  • @rogthegoodboy3520
    @rogthegoodboy3520 2 года назад

    Honestly, I think all of them are good but it depends on the animal inside as well as the substrate and anything else you use.
    For example the light colored background does indeed match good with the sand.

  • @Sha_Fermo
    @Sha_Fermo 2 года назад

    Black backgrounds with the cocofiber look best, but you are right, the grey with the sand looks more natural.

  • @jamieglennie4653
    @jamieglennie4653 2 года назад

    Just an idea.. try using real bark (sterilized, of course) with expanding foam behind it so the spiders don't use it as a hide.