Steven Universe is Garbage and Here's Why

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @dryarridean8418
    @dryarridean8418 4 года назад +43001

    Fun fact: my dad actually did forbid from watching this! But not because of the facism, thankfully he didn't see that. He saw Steven and Pearl crying so much he thought I'd get depressed.

    • @ii_eepy
      @ii_eepy 2 года назад +386

      my mom made me stop watching it too but for a different reason lol. I still watched it sometimes though!

    • @yellow6572
      @yellow6572 8 месяцев назад +53

      I stopped watching it because I got bored and Steven was annoying to listen to

    • @I4dtx
      @I4dtx 8 месяцев назад +36

      W father

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  5 месяцев назад +61

      @dracocrusher Hey moron? I don't call the Diamonds Nazis because of what they do to other planets. I call them Nazis because of what they do to THEIR OWN PEOPLE. I have done this ever since we saw the special "Shatter the disabled gems" robots after The Trial. The off colors are literally what fascist governments consider "undesirables."
      The first people the Nazis murdered were the disabled. Please read a book for once in your fucking life.

    • @Dekarowski25
      @Dekarowski25 3 месяца назад +2

      based

  • @silver2797
    @silver2797 6 лет назад +41220

    *"Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave"*

  • @stanleywilliams7128
    @stanleywilliams7128 5 лет назад +30220

    I just watched someone shit all over one of my favorite TV shows.............and i actully enjoyed it

  • @tokolimespice
    @tokolimespice 4 года назад +4821

    Wasn't the first same sex marriage in a cartoon done by Arthur on PBS

  • @The20AndOnly
    @The20AndOnly 3 года назад +11292

    This video is 2 years old by now, but this is my first time watching it. The clickbait title deterred me for a long, long time. The Sarah Z video brought this up and I decided I finally had to watch this for myself. I'm very passionate about this show, but legitimately hate how the show handles almost every story arc and every attempt at character development. I agree with everything in this video, and it's very clear that you know your shit, not only about the show but about the animation industry in general. I think Sarah Z might not have actually seen Steven Universe, and only criticized your video to prove a point that was unrelated. This video is an excellent critique and you voiced all of the opinions I've had about this show in a really thought-provoking way. You also brought attention to so many important issues that still haven't been addressed by Sugar or the crew. That's all, just wanted to say this is a good video. Thank you for making it.

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  3 года назад +2651

      Sarah Z's been caught lying about people MANY times.

    • @samuellandin
      @samuellandin 2 года назад +73

      I make your words mine.
      Love the show too, watched when I was a kid so it got a very special place in my heart but *GOD DAMN* this show is flawed
      Holly shit!

    • @stephie2625
      @stephie2625 2 года назад +11

      Urk

  • @punkzilax4151
    @punkzilax4151 6 лет назад +6658

    I had always seen the slave to master love in rose and pearls relationship but I hadn’t realised how bleak that was until you pointed it out, thank you. (Seriously)

  • @jkester7893
    @jkester7893 5 лет назад +14206

    "I look forward to the day a good show does this and we can all collectively forget about you"
    *Mr ratburn's gay wedding has joined your chat*

  • @Ender_Emmie
    @Ender_Emmie 4 года назад +7649

    I've honestly been holding back on watching this because I was afraid I was gonna get pissy or something, but you know what? I can see where you're coming from and honestly I'm having trouble looking at the show the same. I completely agree with the whole Diamond redemption nonsense because that was just horrible writing, they could have pulled it off in so many better ways and also- yknow- not fucking rush it in the worst written way possible- Ah- where was I going with this? Who knows, but I can totally get behind this video, good work

  • @ooo_111_ooo
    @ooo_111_ooo 6 лет назад +17283

    Yeah Rebecca Sugar said she only made Mindful Education because she wanted to make an episode about meditaiton, not for.. Character development. She literally said she proposed an episode to just be that one scene with Garnet but her writers said she'd actually have to wrap a story around it and Connie having crazy reactions and muscle memory was what she came up with.

  • @n3onblueblasters878
    @n3onblueblasters878 5 лет назад +5468

    Thanks, as an aspiring author I can see a lot of pitfalls in bad writing.

  • @rach2601
    @rach2601 5 лет назад +9657

    this video: *exists*
    me: *_mo vie t ime_*

  • @megangibbs4158
    @megangibbs4158 4 года назад +16591

    Man I hate it when someone criticizing something helps me develop as a person more than the actual thing they're criticizing ever did. That's really freaking sad. It's like your channel's an episodic narrative of why some shows were great and some were terrible, but it works.

    • @BigMan-ce5yk
      @BigMan-ce5yk 2 года назад +101

      How the hell do you have 13 thousand likes and no replys?

    • @thehunter2093
      @thehunter2093 2 года назад +198

      @@BigMan-ce5yk You can't reply to perfection

    • @BlackKyurem5
      @BlackKyurem5 5 месяцев назад +4

      Makes sense if you think about it. If a show is morally bankrupt like talking it out with obviously terrible people who can kill you (and the only reason why they dont is because you reveal yourself to be their sister otherwise this wouldve failed), then of course someone criticising it is going to end up teaching you something better.

  • @LegendOfPrincessPeachy
    @LegendOfPrincessPeachy 5 лет назад +8859

    Ok RUclips... I watched it. Please leave me alone now.
    (K but in all seriousness this was a well put together video and I really enjoyed it)

  • @trixxsaurus2386
    @trixxsaurus2386 6 лет назад +9976

    The whole cluster thing confused me a bit. During a filler episode around that era, Peridot BRINGS UP the way no one's working on the cluster.....so.....they KNOW that they're putting in filler episodes......so why are they DOING it?

  • @leomorris7573
    @leomorris7573 6 лет назад +22269

    the way lapis's facial expressions are animated after Malachite really reminded me of my abuser and im so glad someone finally brought up how much of an awful person she is

  • @hellware6217
    @hellware6217 6 лет назад +33803

    You murdered it a hour in and the rest was an incredible nasty and cutting euolgy. I loved it.

    • @Maskon2Fite
      @Maskon2Fite 2 года назад +44

      Epic gamer moment she enabled replies

    • @Maskon2Fite
      @Maskon2Fite 2 года назад +9

      @@whatthecatdoin4237 cry 🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @doctorofallrats
    @doctorofallrats 5 лет назад +6258

    1:01:34
    Well, Mr. Ratburn from Arthur has had a gay wedding, and Arthur is an objectively better show than Steven Universe. Can we all collectively forget about SU now?

  • @AWildBoi
    @AWildBoi 6 лет назад +27417

    "Please, the fighting has to stop. We're aren't enemies, we're family". No matter how many times I hear it I still cringe.

    • @ApeOW
      @ApeOW 2 года назад +53

      Fr it’s so edgy
      Btw correct me on the word edgy if are in the kaykaykay

    • @LesbianWeedBrownie
      @LesbianWeedBrownie 2 года назад +339

      @@ApeOW say what you want about that voice line, but that's literally the exact opposite of edge lol

    • @JesterJestro
      @JesterJestro 2 года назад

      @@ApeOW Jason how stupid are you? I’m not trying to be rude here but HOW?!? Literally the opposite.

    • @hughbert976
      @hughbert976 2 года назад +17

      who cares

    • @JesterJestro
      @JesterJestro 2 года назад +65

      @@hughbert976 um me

  • @jessicay2126
    @jessicay2126 3 года назад +23031

    "Honey, it's 4pm, time to rewatch Steven Universe is Garbage and Here's Why"
    "Yes dear"

  • @basilblue32
    @basilblue32 5 лет назад +3582

    even though i am a BIIIIG fan of SU, i actually really enjoyed this video lol

  • @J_Isak
    @J_Isak 6 лет назад +8361

    Yea I accidentally clicked on a panel video where Sugar was doing a interview with some of the voice acters and she made a offhanded comment about how Pearl's motherly personality wasn't even a thing until she got to know her voice actress.
    That's not how voice casting usually works. You're supposed to know the personality first and then cast the voice to fit it. Visual parts of a character sometimes change after voice casting but personality or main key factors of the core of that character should be set in stone beforehand.
    After hearing that straight from her mouth unprovoked in her own words just casually in front in lots of people made me certain that she literally has no clue how to write a story. It makes me sad I had high hopes for the show. But yea. I heard about it part way season 2 and I had no idea the hiatuses started that early. What a mess. That's a lot of fatigue people built up trying to stick with the show. I also wasn't happy about the diamonds' rushed redemption I really wish they didn't do that.

    • @cattievogelsong96
      @cattievogelsong96 6 лет назад +508

      JoiIsakYT
      Her incompetence is endlessly frustrating.

  • @CharaViolet
    @CharaViolet 6 лет назад +21102

    You know, one thing you said kind of ticked me: The thing about the model sheets. The crewniverse used to upload most of them in their blog, and there's one thing I've noticed about a lot of them: They contain the _exact frames_ that the wiki made renders out of before the model sheets were released. It's almost like....... They made the model sheets after they released the episodes........ And just took the images from the wiki and plastered them in the model sheets........

    • @TomRocksable
      @TomRocksable 6 лет назад +2276

      Are you serious?

    • @WretchedRedoran
      @WretchedRedoran 6 лет назад +571

      _Hmmmmm_

    • @CharaViolet
      @CharaViolet 2 года назад +20

      @@eurilake9197 I do, I just made this comment 4 years ago cuz I had a dumb 'lil thought.

  • @kaitomaitoamv7114
    @kaitomaitoamv7114 6 лет назад +25431

    Well here we go. I didn’t need those 2 hours of my life anyways. Take them Lily. Take them.

  • @ryanlol5786
    @ryanlol5786 6 лет назад +5694

    The show spends too much time with random fucking side characters because it’s so obsessed with being weird and quirky in its story structure like Adventure Time, which is impossible to do when the characters in Steven Universe never get developed and the show is literally unable to separate itself from Steven for one fucking second. If a character doesn’t work in Adventure Time, they’re dropped and never have to show up again. Despite Steven Universe being Almost as long as Adventure Time already, the way it spends its time is absolutely baffling, because like Adventure Time, they just HAVE to have 80% of the episodes be filler and pepper in some songs. However, Adventure Time filler episodes aren’t fucking glued to Finn and Jake so they actually have the chance to develop the secondary characters in interesting and meaningful ways.

  • @ArtisticLayman
    @ArtisticLayman 6 лет назад +14985

    God bless you for making this 2 hour film ... I mean video.

  • @Cybo-18
    @Cybo-18 6 лет назад +13767

    I never realized how much time I practically wasted on this show. Oh, and how many hiatus' they went on, holy shit; and I never put the connection of the Human Zoo (and while I'm sure Sugar's intentions weren't racist, once you learn about the Human Zoos, you give everything the side eye). I think after watching this video, which nonetheless was an eye-opener to the BS that is this show (my opinion), I don't wanna watch the rest.

  • @darkusomegaX
    @darkusomegaX 6 лет назад +20794

    This is it. The final SU video that rips apart the entire show. Nothing can top this, unless Sugar somehow writes this 9 times worse.

    • @Rusty-the-datsun
      @Rusty-the-datsun 2 года назад +19

      i hope theres another one that takes this show to the scrap yard!

    • @YourMom_._
      @YourMom_._ 2 года назад +41

      This comment did not age well...

  • @noitby
    @noitby 4 года назад +1367

    trans person gives a opinion changing review on how steven universe a former loved cartoon of mine, changed to one of my most hated kids shows, what a specific yet good review good job

  • @dalastorradio
    @dalastorradio 6 лет назад +20825

    Honestly I hated rose since the first flashback episode due to the song with lines like "I never planned on finding you quite this enteraining" and "I like the way humanbeings play, I like playing along." It shows she doesn't give a shit about humans or anything for that matter. It shows that rose only sees everything as entertainment and if she's bored she will move onto something else. It's sad cause that explains why she "cared" about earth. It's because the diamonds were taking away something that could keep rose from being bored. So rose threw a fucking fit. It also shows why she made pearl love her even though at first pearl saw it as wrong ,but then went to greg. Rose doesn't give a shit about anyone ,but herself and this pisses me the fuck off that sugar is trying to show her as part of the people who are suppose to be right. God fuck sugar.

    • @killabomb3186
      @killabomb3186 2 года назад +117

      Yeah the show doesn't exactly say "rose was great" it tells alot of roses flaws and stuff

  • @awesomezekrom
    @awesomezekrom 6 лет назад +2724

    SU got clocked. I was feeling weird about the show for a while but didn't know why. You put it in words !

  • @spoods619
    @spoods619 6 лет назад +1985

    1:55:29 you thought you could slide that in

  • @MusicForTheRadio
    @MusicForTheRadio 6 лет назад +3164

    I watched an episode or two of the series and I could see hints of deeper themes but after seeing clips from other episodes, I knew that they show and it’s creators were not equipped to discuss these subjects. I studied genocide for four years while at college and travelled to places to that were greatly affected by it. Seeing this show fail so horribly at trying to describe these big issues annoyed me to no end.
    Overall I just wanted to thank you for making this video (and the Korra video) because they helped me peg down what was bothering me so much about these shows.
    Great work!

  • @whimsyy1648
    @whimsyy1648 6 лет назад +3791

    This is a spectacular watch/listen. Being a part of the group that initially watch SU but now only pop in once in a while for closure's sake, listening to someone rip and tear into the many, bizarre and unusual decisions made by the show throughout its run time, as well as show numerous new perspectives that I hadn't considered is frankly quite eye-opening. My major complaints with the show had been hiatus, poor animation quality, overly focused episodes on the residents of the town who have among them maybe one hair strand of personality, and the fact that the show had shifted from fighting against The 'fascists in everything but name' Gempire to forgiving those same people who have actively performed horrifying and twisted acts as 'its all water under the bridge.' I wasn't aware of some of the other points brought up, notably that Yellow Diamond personality wise flip flops between big bad and, well, Blue diamond but with a different coping mechanism and the actual travesty that was Concrete's very culmination (who even drew that and thought it'd be okay?).
    Despite all this, I will likely end up continuing watching the show, for the same reason stated above, closure. However, watching this will hopefully make me more critical of the shows choice of direction. We can only hope for improvement overall, however bleak that seems without significant work if not an overhaul in direction by the shows producers.

  • @itssCoolGuy
    @itssCoolGuy 6 лет назад +5782

    55:44 “I don’t know how on earth you did that, nonbinary people, by their very definition, are interesting.” as nonbinary, ngl, that part made me get a HUGE smile on my face. ily lily

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  6 лет назад +1229

      TBH, I was worried that bit would be taken the other way.

  • @adrianleonce455
    @adrianleonce455 6 лет назад +6155

    TWO HOURS LONG?????? Welp, time to grab some popcorn, a soda and some gummies and sit back and enjoy the show

  • @thewordywarlock7159
    @thewordywarlock7159 6 лет назад +5961

    Remember when Andy was really pissed about the gems being "illegal aliens" and how he was upset that Greg "couldn't even marry an American?" and it was supposed to be this dumb but harmless, bad taste joke about the relatable experience of That One Conservative Uncle and how you might have to get along with them despite your differences?
    Trump was elected like 10 days prior to that episode airing. Not many people laughed.

  • @hex_a_decimal
    @hex_a_decimal 6 лет назад +4089

    GO OFF SIS
    (in all seriousness, this was legitimately so cathartic to watch. i’ve never really found the words to describe why su annoyed me and here they are! thanks lily.)

  • @devonfernandez9638
    @devonfernandez9638 6 лет назад +8233

    >day sucks
    >get home late
    >checks youtube
    >lily drops Steven Universe video
    >.... Today was good day.

  • @davidreynolds9189
    @davidreynolds9189 8 месяцев назад +86

    Even Aang, the most pacifist character in animation, understood that Ozai shouldn’t be forgiven. He found a way to punish him that didn’t involve killing him. Ozai, who leads a fascist empire with a body count in the millions, who has waged a war for a literal century, and has wiped out everything that Aang had ever known, did not deserve to be redeemed. But it was impossible to kill him for Aang.

  • @happyfowl_8376
    @happyfowl_8376 4 года назад +808

    I went back to watch the video by cartoon network showing the clues that rose quartz was pink diamond and SO MANY OF THEM WHERE LITERALLY JUST RANDOM SCENES WITH ROSE IN THEM FSDFGSDF SDFSDF

  • @jaketheworldenderlol9474
    @jaketheworldenderlol9474 4 года назад +807

    The last thing I want to see before dying is the like to dislike ratio on this video

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  4 года назад +472

      Your wish has been granted
      i.imgur.com/fBwaOc6.png

  • @maurycyoseka1057
    @maurycyoseka1057 2 года назад +642

    19:12 - Steven: The mouthpiece
    21:11 - Pearl: The yikes
    22:40 - Amethyst: The sulk
    25:06 - Garnet: The euphemism
    26:54 - Peridot: The great and lovable
    31:24 - Lapis Lazuli: the sociopath
    35:07 - Jasper: Step on me
    36:28 - Yellow Diamond: The empire's wrath
    38:31 - Blue Diamond: The economic anxiety
    39:12 - White Diamond: Your mom

  • @elijahs.824
    @elijahs.824 4 года назад +441

    This god put one ad on a 2hr video

  • @MotionSickness17
    @MotionSickness17 3 года назад +508

    Wasn’t the 1st homosexual wedding in a children’s show in Arthur?

  • @WCRfan126
    @WCRfan126 6 лет назад +4856

    Oh dang! I expected this to be out by next month at the earliest! This was certainly a nice surprise, as I've been really anxious to see this video for quite sometime. I admit, I don't agree with every little detail said in this video, but as for some of the more glaring problems like the filler beach city episodes, the Pink Diamond twist, and the need to redeem the Diamonds, it does make me realize why some of these things never sat right with me but I could never personally explain myself. So I am very grateful for this video in making me realize some of those things.

  • @tlercap6082
    @tlercap6082 3 года назад +1889

    I remember being so upset about the pink diamond reveal and then blaming myself thinking that I might not have been smart enough to enjoy it “properly”. I’m glad this video exists

  • @animieluvr9732
    @animieluvr9732 6 лет назад +4014

    A 2 hour video of Lily talking about Steven Universe?
    Homework can wait!!!!!!!

  • @skyguyastor2246
    @skyguyastor2246 3 года назад +2726

    The longest, most overly critical video essay covering sensitive topics in a children's cartoon I have ever watched. I love it, thank you Lily. I was going to sub to you after watching the video, and was immediately confused when the button was grey.

  • @AuraCreed
    @AuraCreed 6 лет назад +1091

    Holy shit... I read that Racism essay you linked and I didn't even know half of that was even a thing. To top it off I didn't know human zoos were an ACTUAL thing either and I just...
    W.O.W this show fucked up.
    On the plus side this video essay made me want to go play Star Wars the Old Republic.

  • @luketfer
    @luketfer 6 лет назад +2209

    One of the things I found interesting in SWTOR is that the Jedi light or darkside choices aren't based on what you might think are good or evil. They're based on what the Jedi TEACHINGS think is good or evil.
    For example in the tutorial area you come across two Jedi in training who have formed a relationship, something forbidden by the Jedi teachings. The light side option is to go and tell your superiors and have them broken up. The Dark side choice is simply to say nothing and let them continue their relationship.
    By contrast the other classes get more traditional Light/Dark side points. My Smuggler was played as generally a good person unless you pissed her off something fierce. The dude who stole my ship got gunned down in viscous fashion because I had to chase his ass across some god forsaken planet and he would gleefully rub it in my face whenever he could.

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  6 лет назад +553

      That's the case with every character. Light and Dark side is relative to the values of those classes.

  • @numa4life
    @numa4life 6 лет назад +2157

    Wow I knew the show had problems as i watched it which slowly pushed me away, but wow i didn't realize how bad things were. This is why i love watching your work Lily, because watching videos like this and many of your other video that point out the problems or issues a show can have help me to be a better writer; To the point that i look over works that i want to get published and going over them with a MUCH finer tooth comb and give it a lot more clean up, and just literally asking myself "Why" like "Why does (X) do this" or "Why is this here", things that sadly I didn't realize I was lacking in my college education into writing or creative writing (granted it was community college so that probably could of only gone so far). I apologize if this comment comes off as weird or creepy or anything (because i have trouble gauging things like this when i talk to people) but i wanted to voice my appreciation for your work with this and my only regret is i cant do more then say thank you for what you do with little more then this comment at this time in my life.

  • @yaboidawg558
    @yaboidawg558 3 года назад +633

    Bruh I absolutely hated this video years ago and I never watched it. Now that I watch this now.. These points are so good. I love this video.

  • @SleepyQuiet
    @SleepyQuiet 6 лет назад +1736

    I just finished this and immediately pressed repeat. I could listen to this for days and will probably never be over it. Lily, you did an amazing job that I still have certain moments replaying in my head. Look I loved Sugilite and I'm forever bitter about her because Opal rubbed me the wrong way because of those reasons Lily mentioned. Also I'm forever screaming about Lily GOING IN ON KEVIN AND THE CREEPINESS OF HIS WRITING AND THE WRITING AND CAMERA ANGLES WITH STEVONNIE! So creepy! I'm still not over it. Might be my favorite section of the video. My feelings are here and apparently not leaving.

  • @rem8183
    @rem8183 5 лет назад +632

    To be honest stopped watching cuz it became to confusing when stories get put on hold and characters personalities changing way too much. The beginning of the SU thing was fine, expected to be over when at some point Steven meets what I think from an outsider’s perspective to be his mom, but stopped and apparently became shit.

  • @fanaticalistic
    @fanaticalistic Год назад +50

    I still really love Steven Universe, though I do know it has some problems it's still a great show imo. "One man's garbage is another man's treasure"

  • @ROXSTARcandy
    @ROXSTARcandy 3 года назад +382

    So glad i grew out of this show

  • @phifuru
    @phifuru 2 года назад +218

    I was never a fan of the "everything can be resolved with talking" concept it irked me the same way as "you can do anything as long as you believe in yourself"

    • @Not_Kaitlyn
      @Not_Kaitlyn 4 месяца назад

      Steven fr had that talk no jitsu

  • @elisestevenson9120
    @elisestevenson9120 Год назад +507

    I honestly think that the whole trope of "even the worst people can be redeemed" used as a way to keep viewers invested in shows, has genuinely caused me to fall victim to abuse in my life. I grew up watching this concept all over the media. Forgiveness became a fun trope because its unexpected and gets views, but since i grew up with this it was instilled in me that the right thing to do in real life was to forgive people no matter what. Maybe if i hadn't had this ideology drilled into my head through my formative years, i wouldn't have let so many people abuse me and romanticise "fixing" people and redemption. Thats what it is, and people gobble it up because we all like to think that we can change the bad people in our lives, but we cant. And teaching children that we can and should is extremely harmful. I have personally suffered from it

    • @Not_Kaitlyn
      @Not_Kaitlyn 4 месяца назад +4

      I'm glad that you're still here and that you're okay. :)

    • @devontaswirl7507
      @devontaswirl7507 11 дней назад

      That's what I've been thinking I hate that trope. Once someone becomes a fascist dictator who oppresses their own people, and kill or imprison the opposition, there is no coming back from that, also another bad example is in Steven universe future when the lapises attack, she tried to show a lesson restraint is true strength, but when you try to negotiate and negotiations fall through and you get attacked, you gotta do what you gotta do, once the lapises attacked anyway all restraint is out the window and Stevens lapis should have poofed them at that point. The third one is when sugar said there are no true bad guys in the show which is another bad lesson cause there are true monsters in the world, just read the story of the golden state killer.

  • @JabrielTimeline
    @JabrielTimeline 2 года назад +352

    Before the video: "Okay, lets see this opposite opinion"
    After de video: "WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK REBECCA (and how didn't I notice those things)"

  • @andreeacat7071
    @andreeacat7071 3 года назад +863

    ya know, i kinda think Rebecca is putting herself into Rose’s/Pink Diamond’s position. As in she based the character off of herself. think about it. she could’ve grown up privileged, went online, found out the rest of the world is really shitty, tried making it a better place while still living with her privilege, neglected her irl social skills entirely, and started steven universe. so in a way, steven universe is steven universe.

  • @Lunapixel_
    @Lunapixel_ 6 лет назад +1576

    Good job Lily! You deserve to sleep for a fucking week after this monstrous masterpiece of criticism. You're one of my favorite people, even though I don't agree with absolutely everything you say. I wish I had enough money to give you so you could get a new car or something because you deserve it

  • @Paigelikesfluffythings
    @Paigelikesfluffythings 2 года назад +212

    "Sugar used every excuse she could to hide Ruby and Sapphire in the walk-in closet that is Garnet's hips"
    BRUH I CANT 💀

  • @milanshergill9464
    @milanshergill9464 5 лет назад +715

    I think you miss a lot of this when you can watch 5 seasons without hiatusses because then you don't get the theories or the moments where you have to just think about it because you can't watch it, I didn't have those and saw nothing wrong with pink diamond and rose and lapis until now. I am glad I saw this because now I really there really are bad aspects to the show I didn't even know exited.

  • @Ahmed-gu1vx
    @Ahmed-gu1vx 4 года назад +743

    I actually was looking for this video for about 5 minutes because I was feeling nostalgic and remembered how well written this was. A masterpiece tbh

    • @lusciouslocks8790
      @lusciouslocks8790 2 года назад +5

      Two or three times a year I come back to watch this (and now it’s more recent addition)

    • @Ahmed-gu1vx
      @Ahmed-gu1vx 15 дней назад

      Ha im back again listening to this during work to pass the time, so good I don't even need to watch the clips.

  • @FAEDOODLE
    @FAEDOODLE 2 года назад +248

    I just realised that bubbling is applicable to solitary confinement. Which makes the diamonds’ room full of rose quartz bubbles waaay more disturbing to me. They’ve probably been in there for hundreds of years. Rebecca Sugar’s story choices get worse and worse the longer I think about them

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  2 года назад +163

      Actually this is a common trend, not just Sugar. Killing is bad, so the heroes think up some kind of torture that's far worse

  • @LampJesus
    @LampJesus 5 лет назад +355

    Here after the end of the homeworld arc, it got even worse. The whole "they were just following orders" thing doesnt even work anymore because they made fuCKING SPACE HITLER SYMPATHETIC AND REDEEMABLE TOO, IT'S FUCKING AWFUL

  • @zoroarkling
    @zoroarkling 3 года назад +449

    "I like the tiny red lesbian but i don't understand the tiny red lesbian" i have never related so hard to this with so many things

  • @serbs3048
    @serbs3048 3 года назад +268

    This video ended up being the reason why I started playing The Old Republic

  • @swaginton1180
    @swaginton1180 Год назад +119

    Apparently, the reason for the steven bombs comes from the fact that the network saw the rating and statistics for the show and realized that it was starting to fail, so they concocted the steven bombs to garner attention and increase the desire for the show to continue. Not only this, but they also positioned the show in time stamps that both made it so it wasn't competing with any other show that had better ratings to maximize the show's watch time and ratings, artificially inflating the numbers for the show as a result.
    the supposed reason for this was due to them not wanting to go through the drama of letting sugar go after having to inevitably cancel the show when the ratings didn't improve and got worse in fact.

  • @Dan-1031
    @Dan-1031 Год назад +46

    I never really liked this show, ima be honest, my 9 year old booty was only watching to simp on Pearl and Lapiz. But even at that age I HATED Steven, the character, I only watched about 2 seasons but gahhh damn is he the most annoying lead ever. Cardinal sins were made in his writing. He has no motive, he doesn’t push to plot forward, he has no charm, he has no redeeming traits, he is just annoying

  • @heilamwether8911
    @heilamwether8911 2 года назад +207

    Tbh this critique of Steven universe was more spot on than I was expecting, and holds up even after it’s been a couple of years since the ending.

  • @EctoBabble
    @EctoBabble Год назад +67

    OKAY. Rewatching this, if Stevonnie's age is 26... when Connie and Steven are like... 30-40 years old... are they going to look like an 60-80year old woman? What happens when they hit fifty?! LMAO are they just going to die when they fuse? One day Steven is like "Connie we can't fuse anymore or Stevonnie will be 120years old and humans don't live that long :\"

    • @juneru2
      @juneru2 6 месяцев назад +4

      It is BS cause when Steven fused with his dad the end result was like an in-between of Steven's and Greg's ages. There really is no consistency to how fusions are designed at all.

  • @LoryskaEntertainment
    @LoryskaEntertainment 6 лет назад +661

    Oh and, holy fucking shit, the fact that a mass grave of millions of gems gave Steven a thumbs up is fucking disgusting and a great representation of why Sugar doesn’t understand or care to properly explore fascism and the Holocaust. The whole Cluster mess is written off as okay because Steven got the splintered gems to...like each other? This is very troubling. Steven Universe explicitly told children that a mass grave of lower class war victims, slaves and workers forced together was acceptable and “better” after Steven had a talk with it. Literally these gems were stripped of their individuality and “killed” for the sake of an experiment to destroy earth over a petty grudge, and Stevan’s answer to this was, “Maybe you can make this work if you make friends with the corpses you were forced to be with.”
    This is scary as shit

  • @bruz5026
    @bruz5026 Год назад +49

    1:01:19 the first ever lgbt cartoon wedding was in a kid's show: arthur

  • @TrioSonata
    @TrioSonata Год назад +44

    ...I just wanted Bismuth to be a core character. So so badly. I wanted a war taken to Homeworld. But no...

    • @Not_Kaitlyn
      @Not_Kaitlyn 4 месяца назад +1

      Nahhh that makes way too much sense that would've actually been cool.

  • @TH3C001
    @TH3C001 5 лет назад +921

    As someone who is neither a fan or hater of this show and as someone who has seen probably two whole episodes total I am very interested in this video. I will watch this whole thing anyway, but was there any way it could've been condensed at all? I'm a long winded and wordy person so I can understand/relate to the 2 hour runtime, but surely this could've all been summarized a bit tighter? Ah well, I'm still gonna watch the whole thing lol.

    • @TH3C001
      @TH3C001 5 лет назад +553

      After watching this whole thing I see the answer is no, there was no way to condense it lol, there is just that much wrong with this show, it requires 2 hours.

  • @VitorOliveira-sk8dz
    @VitorOliveira-sk8dz 3 года назад +120

    it could have been great

  • @Kacp3rrak
    @Kacp3rrak 3 года назад +438

    I'm just impressed that a lot of these comments have over thousands of likes. I guess it just means all of us agree that SU isn't a good show

  • @memesnahgee5259
    @memesnahgee5259 3 года назад +116

    I was enjoying the Star wars talk so much I forgot about steven universe

  • @skeletonsinscarves3965
    @skeletonsinscarves3965 6 лет назад +920

    When i was still watching this show i was confused about certain things, one of which was when stevonnie said 'i wish you were here' and here i am like, "im sorry what?"
    Honestly this video just confirmed so many worries i had about the show

  • @MrYoda2k
    @MrYoda2k 5 лет назад +471

    You know what's funny?. I never actually watched a full episode from Steven Universe but i understood everything you said in this video. I guess this speaks volumes about the writing of this show xD.

  • @tomo4977
    @tomo4977 6 лет назад +595

    HOOO shit you're on trending #40 in the UK well done dude! I'm glad criticisms of SU are getting more attention, I like the show still but this needed saying!

  • @quagmire9353
    @quagmire9353 Месяц назад +61

    this vid singlehandedly destroyed this shows reputation. Thanks for contributing a net negative to the world!

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  Месяц назад +36

      I didn't singlehandedly destroy the show's reputation, but thanks for letting me know you're a crybaby little cunt who needs to invent conspiracy theories to explain why people disagree with you

    • @thetwistedsavant5821
      @thetwistedsavant5821 Месяц назад +16

      If a SINGLE video can destroy a long running (mostly from inexcusable delays) show's reputation, sounds to me like it is a pretty shite base for the show to stand on in the first place, mate.
      You make it sound like this video is what Bill Cosby did to The Cosby Show's reputation. It's a 6 year old video about how a show that ended up getting as many episodes as FULL HOUSE wasn't as good as people made it out to be.
      Not to mention THE CREATOR THEMSELF has talked about how they'd do it differently if they could, and has since. Maybe just look inward and realize you're being pouty over a now decade old show, bud?

    • @peterthepeopleeater5697
      @peterthepeopleeater5697 25 дней назад +3

      Boo fucking hoo. Go back to to r/StevenUniverse with the rest of the crybabys.

  • @_toge_
    @_toge_ 3 года назад +130

    3:31 imediate like

  • @dankfanfiction8203
    @dankfanfiction8203 2 года назад +445

    Something I'd like to mention too, is that the idea that the gems have "No real gender" but all of them are feminized or solely identify as female. Why is it that NB is always being drawn as "Woman light". It hurts, and its a harmful stereotype. It also feels very weird that most gems aren't allowed to express anything remotely masculine. What is wrong with being Masculine? What is wrong with being a guy? As someone who is AFAB but identifies as NB with a more masculine leaning, it's really confusing and frustrating.

  • @nubby03
    @nubby03 Год назад +28

    I used to watch Steven universe when I was younger and there were so many filler episodes and hiatuses that I genuinely forgot the actual story when it continued. I had no idea what was going on throughout the entire show.

  • @Pip8448
    @Pip8448 6 лет назад +614

    1:49:31 "Forgive and forget is universal" the theme and reason for the name of the show.
    A wish.
    1:51:07 to 1:51:33 Truth!
    1:59:42 to 2:00:12 Classic political cry baby reasons for getting away with dumping garbage ideas onto (not into) the youth of today.
    Lily, you have some great points.
    That being said. I do like this show. Yes the hiatus of the show was unreasonable to ask for from an audience that was told the plot has already been written. Yes most of the filler episodes were badly placed.
    I enjoyed exploring the world, the side characters (except Lars), How each person helped Steven grow and learn the things allowing him to become the person Homeworld gems need but would have never gotten otherwise.
    I also like that the classic 'punch to win' cartoon changed into an introspective show. Not really for kids, but for older and observant people.
    I also love a show that can keep me guessing; and I'm okay with these new cartoons taking ques from their fandoms to make their stories better. They just need to figure out which story direction they want and STICK WITH IT. Which I agree Steven Universe didn't do a great job of, trying too hard to please everyone at once. (oh you covered this part sorry 1:57:03 to 1:57:54)
    I view this show as an experiment and I truly hope others learn from it.

  • @ryanfletcher6415
    @ryanfletcher6415 3 года назад +406

    It's funny, Rebecca Sugar and Ian-Jones Quartey went to the School of Visual Arts taking class like Storyboarding and Storytelling and their work on Steven Universe is shit.

  • @Ohio_Skibi
    @Ohio_Skibi 6 месяцев назад +34

    Tbh, I kinda like the show

    • @LilianOrchard
      @LilianOrchard  6 месяцев назад +32

      You're the first person who does to not hurl some of the most vile insults and conspiracy theories at me because of this video in a while. I appreciate that.

  • @The123lj
    @The123lj 6 лет назад +1176

    Yoooo 😭 he really dragged Rebecca Sugar 😬

  • @thebombingsoda
    @thebombingsoda 3 месяца назад +18

    I feel like if the shows message was “try to talk stuff out first, but sometimes that doesn’t always work and you gotta fight”, it would be a lot better. Sometimes you can’t stop people from being awful by just talking it out

    • @Maludosgatos
      @Maludosgatos 2 месяца назад +3

      And the diamonds were genocidal oppressive tyrants who abused EVERYONE in the galaxy including the main cast sans Steven and knew WELL that what they were doing was wrong (hell, White Diamond was having the time of her life manipulating Steven and mind-controlling the Crystal Gems). Sorry, but I do NOT buy that Steven won them over with The Power Of Kindness™. Why can't we just let villains be villains?!

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 3 года назад +370

    I'm very glad that I came across this video. I can very distinctly remember watching SU and not having any problems with It. It didn't really stand out to me as one of the best TV series or one of the worst. It was really just neutral for me.
    after watching this video however, I have come to realize all the horrible things that I, somehow, never noticed.
    like, seriously. HOW did I completely miss (for example) how they butchered the diamonds?! I'm almost ashamed of myself for being so blind.

  • @pp-sx5rb
    @pp-sx5rb 2 года назад +40

    As the show proceeded,the show became more and more confusing. The line between what was right or wrong got blurrier and blurrier. This explanation and strong analysis helps understand it much better (more like understand that its not understandable due to the writers neglect)

  • @gaudessuwu
    @gaudessuwu 6 лет назад +701

    This is fantastic, I enjoyed how you just ripped into parts that people tend to overlook.

  • @WhoEustace
    @WhoEustace 6 лет назад +564

    Great, I'm bigender and now I'm pissed. Came to watch this video for the information on whether or not this show is worth watching, left with a huge disappointment of shattered hopes and dreams about a "cartoon with strong and supportive lgbtq+ theme". Thanks for the warning though, I guess I'm gonna stay away from this show now.

  • @veahland
    @veahland 2 года назад +60

    this series had SO. MUCH. POTENTIAL and sugar threw ALL of that away and it makes me so mad. this show coildve had an amazing analysis on self love and facist governments and what not but nooooooo she had to throw that all away

  • @ehjules
    @ehjules 6 лет назад +413

    I really hope Rebecca Sugar or ANYONE on the crewniverse has the balls to ask if they can attempt a Tales From Ba Sing Se type episode.
    BUT, knowing the crewniverse it'll fucking be about the beach city characters.

  • @leighgasp
    @leighgasp Год назад +38

    Pearl not really being the Strong Independant Gem I thought she was is hurting my head. this is actually really sad.
    also rOSE COMMANDING PEARL TO NEVER STOP? DIDNT EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT OH MY GO D

  • @thechickenmanmsm
    @thechickenmanmsm 2 года назад +32

    who else noticed that at 10:46 steven is standing off the side of his room. animators what the fuck are you doing?