Hall of Famer Steve Young on the Mahomes vs Allen “Superhero” Battle | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Pro Football Hall of Fame QB Steve Young and Rich Eisen discuss Bills vs Chiefs NFL Divisional Round playoff game.
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You can always tell who someone was leaning towards in winning. The first QB he mentioned was Josh 😂 and what Josh didn’t do.
I disagree with the Superman take! I believe there are play to be made that are simple but Josh tries to do too much. The difference is. Mahomes always makes the right play. The Chiefs call shot plays too but Mahomes make the right decisions
I just want somebody to love my like the NFL media loves Josh Allen.
AFC has Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow. Insane. NFC is a way easier path
ZACH WILSON IS NUMBER 1
Burrow doesn't belong
But Allen has Diggs and other good receivers as well as an emerging running game - it seems like he does have what he needs.
The talent on that offense is amazing.
STEVE IS TURNING INTO MY GRANDMOTHER
Steve keeps including Josh Allen in the accomplishments achieved by Mahomes.
For those who never saw Steve Young play- he was a very good runner and great passer. He never got enough credit imo.
What more help does Josh need??!!
Give Mahomes just Diggs alone and we’re looking at a 15 win season….😂😂😂
I mean right ... OMG ..
He needs a little fairy and devil on his shoulders to tell him when not to uncork a hero ball INT
@@173jaSon371 😂😂😂
I'd take Hill over Diggs any day of the week when he was at KC. Or Kelce. Diggs isn't what he was last year, you can see it on the tape. No separation and drops.
@@MrProsat
The topic is Josh Allen needing help. Diggs is still an elite receiver. If he was on the chiefs this season they would have won all those close games so why isn’t he enough for Allen….thats what we are saying. Diggs wants to win. I believe his decline is just mental. If he goes to KC he’d light up the league….if they cost the same then I’d rather have tyreek but if Diggs is cheaper then I’d rather have him….tyreek dropped some key passes for the dolphins also….but tyreek is 100% unnecessary in KC.
In my opinion the best quarterbacks in the NFL are Mahomes Herbert Allen Lamar Jackson,and burrow..maybe stroud.
ZACH WILSON IS THE BEST
Herbert has kind of fallen off. Always wondered how he would’ve done with a decent team.
PM is fantastic
When you succeed then you are fearless. When you lose your nemesis then you are tactical.
This mindset has lost so many actual battles lmao
I hate when they say he need more help lol . How??? The last few years they’ve had a top 10 offense and defense
Exactly, they were a top 2 defense in 2021 and 2022 by DVOA and squandered that away too. Even this year they were 12th ranked. And now they have Kincaid and Cook on offense
@173jaSon371 and it still wasn't enough to beat the Cheifs. So yes they need more help
Once again, Mahomes willed his team to win and Josh Allen didn’t. If Josh is going to be considered an elite quarterback he needs to WIN something, no more excuses, just STOP IT🙄
He is running out of time.
Philip Rivers
You can’t will a team to win when Diggs drops a perfect 50 yard bomb
@@artfuldodger8147 mahomes dealt with that at year and where he end up? Right back in the Championship where he belongs
lol you’re right Arthur, go ahead and “ummm actually” Steve Young
I've been saying for years now that Mahomes is what Steve Young would look like if he didn't have to worry about his head being cut off two times a game. Steve would have thrived with todays QB protections (like 2 MVPs wasn't enough)
Steve Young was never the best QB in the league. Mahomes is the best QB in the league. Josh will keep losing Brady told him he was stubborn stop looking for the big plays all the time. Should have took the high percentage throw to Diggs on the short crosser. Plus he had help the 🏃 back was cooking.
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He didn’t look for big plays most of the time in this game. He methodically moved the ball downfield, converting 3rd down after 3rd down by himself. The two times he did look for the big play, each receiver had the ball LITERALLY go right through their hands.
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jj He looked for the big plays at the end of the game should have took the shallow crosser instead threw a duck to the end zone
@@jamargraham6707
Why did he throw a duck? Could it be because his lineman was blocked into him just as Steve Young described in this video? So in other words, someone on the Bills didn’t do their job, and it wasn’t Josh.
Abandoning half their script and waiting until the final drive to do so turns Allen into a coin flip. Keep doing what you were doing, or give Allen more than 1 drive to try and air things out like that. 0 throws on 2nd and short and as soon as we get just into field goal range to tie it we’re taking shots in the end zone. Makes no sense
It makes perfect sense, because tying the game with a FG was the last resort. They HAD to put up 7 points. The defense had no answers for the Chiefs. They were scoring at will. They were getting explosive plays on every drive because we had practice squad guys playing on defense. I mean, they attempted a fake punt in their own redzone because they had no confidence in the defense to generate a stop and keep them in the game.
Even if Tyler Bass makes the field goal, Patrick Mahomes would've been left with almost two minutes of clock and 2 timeouts. At the bare minimum, they were getting Butker into field goal range to hit a walk off FG and break Buffalo's heart that way. They had to score a touchdown and force KC to go the length of the field and score in the redzone again. It was the only thing Buffalo could do. The shot to Shakir was open, it was a designed play, the pass just got disrupted and Josh needed a split second longer of protection.
Truthfully, I would've much rather they just went for it on 4th down. Live and die with your best player out on the field. With the time left remaining in the game, don't put it in the hands of a kicker whose been terrible from the right hash all year long. Who knows, maybe Josh makes something happen on 4th and 9.
Allen needs more help? Respectfully, Steve Young is way off base. Allen didn't need to go superman here, he just needed to play it out. The deal is Buffalo panicked and tried the fake punt. They panicked after Hardman gifted them the ball back. A TD on that drive ends the game, but he fumbled through the endzone.
Allen has had all the help early in his career. He had a really good defense in his rookie window. He had the elite WR and top tier TE. His line has been above average. They gave him everything. Now that he's off the rookie deal, he's going to have to do more with less around him. If you can't do more with less after your rookie deal, you need to take less money to build the team around you.
The Bills were running a great game plan. Scored on 4 of 5 possessions and were down 27-24 because KC scored on 5 of 5. They got scared that a long drive leaves Mahomes with 4-5 minutes to get the game winning score so they tried scoring quicker and they got burned.
PS. If KC falls on the fumble rather than the scoop and score, the game is basically over at that point.
Young was talking about Allen needing help in the past years. This year was different as they developed a true running game.
The fake punt was an automatic call due to KC not having but 9 or 10 players on the field. It wasn't panic, simply an automatic call due to the numbers.
Allen had no running game behind him throughout his rookie contract. He had to play superman and be the running game and the passing game. The o'line through most of his career thus far has been sub-average, mostly due to the right side of the line being terrible. It has improved through the years. The look of the o'line may have benefited simply due to Allen being able to escape and take off without getting sacked,
What hurt the Bills the most was KC adjusting and making it harder to run the ball in the 2nd half. The Bills had no answer.
Perfectly said. Bills had so many lucky bounces go their way and still lost. 3 fumbles, 0 lost. KC goal line fumble. Allen’s near pick-6. Guy running wide open in the end zone on the final drive Allen missed. Bills had so many opportunities and seized none of them.
A lot of bad takes about the Bills in the comment section. Steve Young is right, the Bills do need more offensive weapons whose name isn't Diggs. They don't have a true #2 WR and their #1 receiver has had issues all year and is damn near 30 years old. They do have a better run game now but when that goes away as it did, they don't have any real playmakers out there who can create separation, who are physical and can go up for 50/50 balls. That's the difference. They don't have a Kelce. They don't have a Jamar Chase. This is so obvious on tape and I'm the sort of guy who watches all-22 film after every game.
The offense has been stagnant for weeks. They started winning again, but they did so in spite of their offensive stagnation. Josh Allen's ability to be a dual threat runner saves them in so many situations but at some point, he needs playmakers to make plays. He needs a guy like Stefon Diggs to catch that 75 yard bomb that landed in his hands. Or Cook to not drop yet another TD pass. This offense hasn't been the same since Brian Daboll left. Watch the film and you'll see that very rarely do the receivers they have naturally win on their routes. Especially intermediate and deeper routes down field. Guys aren't being schemed open. Most of Buffalo's big plays are from off-schedule plays created by Josh Allen's ability to extend.
The Bills lost this game for one reason and one reason only. The defense. Their inability to generate stops and QB pressure. They forced 1 punt in the entire game. They were allowing 10 yards per play on average. Patrick Mahomes never had a possession longer than 4 minutes, they were driving 75 yards down the field in 5 or 6 plays, with explosive plays and blown coverage assignments on every drive. How else do you lose a game when you win the time of possession battle by nearly 15 minutes? The Bills ran almost 30 more plays I think than the Chiefs did. We're having a very different conversation right now if Buffalo's defense was able to generate a stop while they had the lead. Could've very easily became a two possession game.
At some point, regardless of how good your QB is, you have to have help from the other side of the ball. Sean McDermott and his defense has NEVER been able to generate stops against Andy Reid's offense. In their 3 playoff meetings, the Chiefs have punted a grand total of 4 times. F O U R. That's why this iteration of the Buffalo Bills loses against the Chiefs. Josh Allen is the reason the Bills have been in these games to begin with.
PS: The throw to Shakir in the endzone was wipe open, and the throw was disrupted by Chris Jones pushing Dion Dawkins into Allen as he released the ball. Pays to actually watch the games.
Can you think of one play the Bills made outside of Josh Allen where a player made you go “wow, great play”? I’m legitimately asking.
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jj Cook was eating us alive. 7-8 yards on a touch with all those screens.
The Bills were moving the ball for three quarters and KC was almost powerless to stop it.
Where was Diggs? Not in the short passing game plan. The gameplan to take what you can get short and just march up the field was working.
With the game on the line Allen Tua’d that 2nd down pass to Shakir🤣😂
He was hit on the throw to Shakir. Josh Allen literally put a 75 yard DOT on Diggs down the field that he dropped and you think he just naturally noodles arm a 30 yard pass? No lol. Chris Jones was lined up on the edge and he pushed Dion Dawkins into Josh as he was throwing the ball, disrupted his throwing motion and it came out short armed. Not putting that on Josh Allen, that's ridiculous. If the protection holds up for a split second longer, that's a touchdown.
@@retrocny5625 He could have thrown that incomplete Shakir pass to Diggs underneath for a near guaranteed completion which would have kept the clock moving. Instead it went incomplete and stopped the clock at 1:55 or so. Then they had 1 more incompletion, stopping the clock again, and then obviously missing the kick. They could have both kept the clock running and made the 3rd down a 3rd and short instead of 3rd and 9.
If they failed to pick up a 3rd and 2 or 3rd and 4, they would have been kicking from at most 39 yards. If they had gotten a 1st they could have milked the clock down and either played for OT or maybe even get a TD on a higher percentage pass than the one to Shakir. They set themselves up to lose even with a successful kick by giving it back to Mahomes with 1:40 and 2 timeouts still.
He had a 350 pound offensive lineman hit him. Did you watch the play, chuckles?
@@retrocny5625 That was the exact play that "won them the game" with 13 seconds left...
Mahomes is Superman, Allen is Bruce Wayne. No disrespect, just the way it is.
Bruce beat Superman a few times tho
We talking about Superman Mahomes v Lex Luthor Allen?? Because that's what it is. RIP, Bills.
@godagon97, Mahomes is the Kryptonite for Superman Allen!!
Do you think most of America views the chiefs as the underdog good guys? Honestly asking.
@Trivsdotcom, Honestly speaking, Chiefs are the new villains because they are good at winning. Look at the stats when Mahomes stepped as starting QB. He raised the bar so high, that him getting 28TDs a season is not good enough. Too much winning and other teams losing has turned rest of the America into haters. They can't win, but can only hate the winners. That's my honest opinion.
Allen is Green Lantern in the Lego movie
Are you serious saying Allen doesn’t have enough help? You have seen our receivers…lol. Just Mahomes is the better QB.
How many drops did Kelce have?
Josh Allen's receivers were dropping important catches right and left.......poor coaching.
@dutchflats, Chiefs Receivers dropped all season long. But when it comes to playoffs, they knew their assignments. That's the difference between winners and losers.
Mahomes is definitely on track for a new goat, but each year, Mahomes, Allen, Jackson and Burrow will be fighting it out for years! And Aaron R if he ever comes back, but we'll see. Think of what the cowboys could do with Josh Allen, by the way! Dak just can't carry the team on his own when all else fails like Allen can.
That was a brilliant take
The NFL has become a passing League. Back in the old days, it was a great running back and defense that took you to the super bowl.
Well in all fairness, the Chiefs' defense and Isaiah Pacheco may be enough to take the Chiefs to a SB
Last night the Chiefs running game and defense that were the key factors in the win
Not to mention if Rodgers has anything left in the tank. Plus Stroud and Trevor Lawrence...insane lol
Bills are where they are mostly due to their execution. In 2021 defense let them down. In 2022, mentally they were drained after everything that happen. This year, in that last drive, offense didn't make the plays. I truly believe Bills will continue to have Super Bowl worthy roster. It's their mindset and execution when it matters the most will continue to be their "curse".
"Josh Allen is asked to do too much..."
Really? So that 1000 yard pro-bowl RB and that 1000 yard pro-bowl WR were not quite enough help? How much help does he need? Mahomes has a better TE than Allen, but other than that, Allen has the advantage in how much help he gets from teammates. The answer here is simple...Allen is not as good as Mahomes, it's not even close, and I'm sick of being nice about this fact.
What I love about it Josh Allen failure to be great just sent Lamar Jackson or Pat Mahomes to the Super Bowl.
Teri Hatcher tried to score with Steve Young but "no goal" ~ so (not) sorry Teri. Jenny
Wow! Such a hard analysis to watch. Last 5 Super Bowl Champion QB's: Tom Brady X 2, Pat Mahomes X 2, and Matthew Stafford. 2 of those guys are pure pocket passers while Mahomes is a pocket QB who can and does run when has to. The guys who have designed plays for running have ZERO Super Bowl wins. In fact, Buffalo and Baltimore have great players up and down their offense but their QB's often try to do everything which is why they always come up short. Teams win in the NFL not individual players. Wonder why Allen's numbers fall off a cliff in the 4th quarter compared to the 1st 3 quarters? He is a great player but the coaching in Buffalo sucks. Got to manage the whole game, use all of your weapons and have your best player fresh when it comes to game winning time. It is poor offensive design. The NFL isn't the NBA where 1 guy can make up for a mediocre roster. Hell, even they strictly manage their minutes and give guys games off trying to keep their best players fresh.
Superhero’s make the big throw in the big moment. They don’t crumble
Receivers need to catch perfectly thrown balls when it matters too
Allen made the throw and Diggs dropped it. On the end zone throw, Allen was pushed by his own lineman when Chris Jones rushed Allen. Bills defense was really the difference in this game. Even if Buffalo scored with 1:45 left, I doubt they would have kept KC out of the end zone.
40 seconds into 4th quarter, the scoring stopped.
Steve Young is full of himself, remember, he was quite the playoff failure, he played for some staked niners teams and couldn’t beat Cowboys, later to couldn’t beat the packers. In my opinion, he was overrated and should not be a hall of famer, and I grew up as niners/ young fan.
Steve Young losing his helmet and then turning upfield for a nine yard gain is one of the most memorable plays ever. In a preseason game.
Keep talking about getting these quarterbacks more help hell how much help do they need Patrick mahomes pass hardly no help has one guy and that is Travis Kelsey
What, they lost because they tried to put the ball in Josh’s hands.
The bills do not suck because a Josh Allen.. Josh Allen is a really good quarterback. Unfortunately, the bills just suck no matter what happens. The bills suck a Josh Allen should ask for a trade superheroes.
Apparently Steve Young has forgotten about Tom Brady already. 😂 Tom never had to run around like a chicken with his head cut off. He played from the pocket and has more Super Bowl rings than any other QB in history; his last ring just a couple years ago.
Brady was carried by his elite offensive line and defense his whole career. such an overrated bum
Is this Drew Bledsoe's burner acct.?
Tom had this thing called being carried by his team especially defense and Hall of Fame kicker, that other QBs don't get lucky enough for.
Montana was one of those guys and a prototype....Mahomes is a different type of a QB prototype, and then there's BRADY!
Steve would have cooked playing now
Ummm.. Steve, you were the "oddity" 30 years ago..
I love my Chiefs, but we played stupidly! The Hand of God saved our season.
IF the kick had tied the game, the Chiefs had nearly 2 minutes and 2 timeouts. I think KC could have easily drove down the field, and gotten 3 more points to win it, and if they didn't, Allen is 0-6 in overtime, 4 of those are since they changed the rules for him.
@@JohnClarkW But it wasn't supposed to be that close. 1) 3-15... we give them a personal foul and a 1st down 2)A Scoop &Score failed... Bills get the ball back. 3)MVS cannot catch a TD pass to him 4)Hardman tries to be heroic & coughs up the ball on the 3 yrd. line. We were lucky to survive that game.
And the refs
Mahomes vs Allen is still one sided. 0-3!
Mahomes is 4-3 against Allen. And most of those games in KC. He aint all that.
@@MrProsat 0-3 when it matters most, the playoffs.
@@jimnfl7134 You DO realize that football is a team sport? Allen did everything he could. He can't stop KC's run game, he can't catch dimes dropped out of the sky that would have been TD's. KC has a better defense at this point in time and the Bills offense could not make the adjustments in the 2nd half. QB win/losses v each other means little, they don't play each other in ANY phase of the game.
Fire the head coach
With the right coach RUclips could have a superhero do you think Mahomes was a superhero before being drafted no but he was pretty good hell Mayfield did better against Mahomes in college but who's the superhero right now
Andy Reid Breet Veech Tyreek Hill and Kelce deserve some credit too
Mahomes is Brady and Manning is either Lamar or Burrow they’re the only other ones with the hardware to be in the discussion 😭😭😭 CHIEFS💔‼️
No current QB Should be compared to mahomes. That's just silly.
1 of them is a 2 time Superbowl MVP & the other is a wannabe but ultimately a loser who is struggling to get over year after year after year. 1 will wind up with at least 4 Superbowl rings in his career while the other will never even sniff a Superbowl.
A god the Lebron “help” narrative
Josh Allen was also playing against a first rate and firsts string defense mahomes only had to face second and third stringers
Steve really thinks alot of himself doesn't he....
He was pretty good back in the day. Bill Walsh sent Joe Montana away, so he could get Young on the field. Th
Steve Young is a top 10 all-time qb, it's not a debate. He also played in an era where the defense was allowed to kill you, not an exaggeration. He had a great combination of arm strength, accuracy, pocket mobility, ability to run, and extremely high football IQ.
@scottyh1509 Again. I know he was very, VERY good. Ok. I know. All I'm saying is this dude loves the smell of his own farts and furthermore, he loves telling people that his farts smell SO GOOD.
@@scottyh1509 Ehhhh idk about top 10 but def top 20. Brady, Montana, Manning, Rodgers, Marino, Otto Graham, Bart Starr, Brees, Johnny Unitas, Elway, Favre, Sammy Baugh, Aikman, Bradshaw, Staubach. I'd lump Young in somewhere in between those last few guys I named probably, but not inside the top 10. Other old timers like Van Brockin, Fouts, Luckman, and Tarkenton aren't far behind either but comparing across so many eras does get weird. I'd also probably say that Mahomes will be ahead of him if he isn't already.
That’s literally hof Steve young that prime example of duel threat and 3x sb champion so you’d think that what he’s saying is 100% right and for the most part it is but the part about Josh needing help is ridiculous. This guy has one of the best offensive rosters in the league and outside of Qb and TE they have the advantage In every other category compared to the chiefs. Throughout the regular season the Chiefs lead the league in dropped passes which a good majority of them costed them games and with a rt who is the most penalized players in the league as well they get brought back for plays that have scored or had big gains so how does Josh need help when his offense is countless lvls higher
Mahomes🐐
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Josh Prescott Jr sucks
Mahomes and the Chiefs won the game. Talk about the winners. :)
Steve looks like he's 40 !
As a chiefs fan, if we lost mahomes and could pick any qb to replace him, i would want Allen or Burrow.
The last weeks of the season the majority sentiment of chiefs fans was, just keep the Bills out of the playoffs. They were the team feared the most. As long as the Bills have Allen, they will be a team to be reckoned with. 25 other teams would kill to have him as their qb. The chiefs suffered decades with a carousel of average qbs. The Bills should appreciate like we do , that we each have our guy.
100% agreed, at no point would a one score playoff loss make me lose faith in any of the 3 of them, especially against one another. As a Bills fan, yes, losing sucks, but I have zero worries at QB for next season, especially when I think of Tua, Dak, Hurts, Rodgers...I'm grateful. Nothing but respect(and, ok, a little bit of hatred) for Mahomes and KC.
As a chiefs fan same here. That td throw by Allen to the front pylon is a throw that I've only seen allen and mahomes not only have the sack to throw it but have the ability to throw it and not just throw it but make it look easy. Didn't turn his hips or shoulders just flicked his arm throw and absolute laser to the only spot he could throw it on a cb who had not given up a td all season.
Nope! Burrow or Stroud. Allen's mentals aren't right.
I'm a Bills fan. Josh wasn't asked to do too much last night. We ran a lot with Cook. More than half his throws were behind the line of scrimmage. He was never asked to play hero ball
Yes, what does an NFL qb know anyway? 😅
I agree with you. Shows like Eisen dumb things down to a few platitudes for their audience can latch to on to. Josh played well Mahomes played better. But more importantly the Chiefs receivers made timely catches while the Bills receivers didn't.
@@petercofrancesco9812 The Bills had over 3 less yards per play, Hardman's fumble out of the end zone was the only thing that saved them in this game. It was a close game on the scoreboard but the Chiefs were way more efficient on far less plays. 7 more yards of offense on 31 fewer plays.
The context of this thread is Rich Eisen is attributing the loss to Josh Allen trying to do too much. This was true in previous games this season but not in this game. Actually seems like the game plan was to have Josh play more conservatively to eliminate turns overs. The key difference wasn't the QB play but the receivers for the Bills dropped key deep passes that the Chief didn't.
Josh did short arm a throw to the end zone.But this is attributed Chris Jones pushing an o-line into Josh so he couldn't step into the throw. But that still doesn't support Rich's opinion Josh tried to do to much. @@173jaSon371
@@173jaSon371 Bills were trying to establish a running game. so yea, running the ball will end up having fewer yards per play than passing. Give credit to the chiefs in the second half for shutting down Cook. And Jones pushing the OT into Allen on the TD throw that wasn't.
Chiefs fan here, Josh Allen is an elite qb. Joe Burrow is an elite qb. But Mahomes is a legendary qb along with Brady. Theres nothing wrong with being an elite qb but youre not legendary until you can put up the wins.
Facts
Honestly, yeah, this. So many people wanna say “this” but way more dramatic to the left or the the right, and miss the mark.
Perfect!
Brady could never, ever be as good as Mahomes, Burrow also could never, EVER compare, don't put defend merchants in the goat talk.
@andrewkelly1337 That's the entire point. Mahomes' greatness is clearly on a different level than these other guys, and Im tired of people comparing him to people beneath him. When comparing Mahomes, there's only Brady, and every year, Mahomes makes huge leaps at toping the legacy of Tom Brady. As for Allen and Burrow, they are great qbs, but they just happen to be in the same Era as Mahomes and can never be in the GOAT conversation.
Yep.. josh has (diggs-knox-gabe-kincaid-cook) few made probowl...hmmm
I love Allen. He’s great. But the attempts to equate him to Patrick is so frustrating. It’s Mahomes, a large canyon, then everyone else
It’s not ONLY Mahomes. The legend of Mahomes is founded in WHO his Coach is… Reid. And… who he’s got UNMATCHED chemistry with… Kelce! If you put Mahomes on any other team withOUT Reid & Kelce, he’s still very good! But whatever that team is, ISN’T as good as this current Chiefs Dynasty BECAUSE it’s Reid, Kelce AND Mahomes!
Andy Reid made Mahomes switch coaches and Allen is Mahomes
respectfully disagree. Josh has 27 TD's in the postseason against 4 INT. The reason people equate him to Mahomes is he is the only guy in the same stratosphere as Patrick, physically and statistically. Is 13 seconds Josh's fault? Is it Josh's fault his defense has averaged 34 pts against in the playoffs? It's a miracle he has accomplished what he has been able to and to not recognize it shows a bit of a disconnect my man. He's 27. 50 TD's in what people say was a down year... What you are saying right now is equivalent to Elway or Manning will never win a championship
@@vermontmotorsports1275 Physical comparsion is really the only argument. If you put their resumes side by side its mind bogglingly stark. Allen hasnt accomplished 1/4th of what Mahomes has.
@@JoshAllenIstheNextJohnElway Allen is the next Farve. Turnover and TD machine
Crazy part is Josh never beat a elite QB in the playoffs. Mahomes then Joe Burrow both took turns in Josh house both sent him home on the road enough with the excuses for Josh.
@@JoshAllenIstheNextJohnElway Man he beat old Phillip and Lamar left in the second quarter. He not Elway because Elway took his team to the super bowl by himself.
Joe Burrow is not elite, CERTAINLY not in the playoffs. Call me when Burrow has 3 touchdowns in a playoff game or scores even ONE career 4th quarter touchdown in the playoffs. Josh capped off a 4 TD, 158.3 masterpiece with a TD pass to take the lead with 13 seconds left and his offense having 36 points , only to lose and Burrow leads his team to 0 4th quarter points and beats KC scoring 24 in regulation the next week. Anyone who watches and understands football even a little knows who is better
@@andrewkelly1337 Josh had two playoff games at home he lost to Pat and Joe Burrow and Burrow made it to the super bowl he beat Josh in Buffalo and he beat Pat in arrowhead in half the time it took Josh so until Josh or any other QB does that not named Brady or Joe Burrow don't talk to me about elite only two QB's beat Pat in arrowhead in the playoffs Brady and Burrow.
@@andrewkelly1337 you putting up stats for losses so you don't know nothing about football.
@@andrewkelly1337 Loser's put up stats winners count wins.