Blade Runner 2049 - Why Great Movies Fail | Anatomy Of A Failure
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2020
- 2017's Denis Villeneueve cyberpunk film Blade Runner 2049 is a remarkable experience... but still ended up flopping in the box office and losing a big bunch of money. We've been talking about bad and mediocre box office flops recently like John Carter and The Lone Ranger, but today let's look at the same topic from the other side of the fence -- why a great movie ended up losing money. It's not the biggest box office flop of all time but still. They have Villeneuve making Dune for Warner Bros now, so here's a few things to keep in mind for that.
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Blade Runner 2049 (2017)
This sequel to Ridley Scott's landmark 1982 science-fiction film picks up the story 30 years later, giving viewers another detailed look at a future in which humanity live in polluted, overcrowded cities and rely on androids known as "replicants" for slave labor. In 2049 Los Angeles, K (Ryan Gosling) works as a "blade runner," a specialized law-enforcement agent dedicated to tracking down and killing rogue replicants. But when he uncovers a shocking honest trailer blade runner 2049 everything wrong with blade runner 2049 cinemasins watch blade runner 2049 full movie online free 4k hd clip blade runner 2049 sequel ryan gosling anatomy of a failure dune highest grossing movies most expensive movies biggest movie flops rise of skywalker flop which movie lost most money movie lose money biggest movie loss finds out that love is a conspiracy involving the robot laborers, he searches for the one person who might have answers: a former blade runner named Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford), who vanished decades earlier. Directed by Denis Villeneuve (Arrival, Sicario). Ana de Armas, Sylvia Hoeks, Robin Wright, Mackenzie Davis, Dave Bautista, and Jared Leto co-star.
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John Carter (2012)
Edgar Rice Burroughs' classic tale of interplanetary adventure arrives on the big screen in this sweeping sci-fi spectacle marking the live-action debut of Oscar-winning director Andrew Stanton (Finding Nemo, WALL-E). Civil War veteran John Carter (Taylor Kitsch) was still haunted by the violence he witnessed on the battlefield when he inexplicably awoke on the distant planet of Barsoom (Mars). Upon learning that the inhabitants of Barsoom are bracing for a major conflict and that war appears inevitable, John The Lone Ranger - How to Build the Biggest Flop of All Time | Anatomy Of A Failure everything wrong with John Carter cinemasins honest trailer John Carter watch full movie free online hd 4k clip John Carter box office flop biggest box office flops of all time disney $200 million failure Johnny Depp amber heard taylor kitsch highest grossing movies most expensive movies biggest movie flops rise of skywalker flop which movie lost most money movie lose monty biggest movie loss finds out that love is a rare commodity on the Red Planet, and summons the courage to be the hero the Martians have been hoping for. Meanwhile, John falls under the spell of the enchanting Dejah Thoris (Lynn Collins), who struggles to suppress her compassion in a society known for its warlike ways. Willem Dafoe, Samantha Morton, and Mark Strong co-star.
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The Lone Ranger (2013)
The Lone Ranger rides again with this big-budget Walt Disney Pictures production starring Johnny Depp as Tonto and Armie Hammer as the famed gunman. The story centers on Tonto's recollection of the adventures that found lawman John Reid transformed into The Lone Ranger, legendary hero of the Old West. Gore Verbinski everything wrong with the Lone Ranger cinemasins honest trailer lone ranger watch full movie online free 4k hd clip lone ranger 2 biggest box office flops movie flop johnny depp amber heard directs from a script by Justin Haythe, Ted Elliott, and Terry Rossio. 
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The movie may have disappointed at the box office, but this movie was in no way a failure. One of the best Sci-Fi movies in years.
agreed
It's a beautiful movie.
I honestly liked this movie. And I liked the first Bladerunner movie. They really matched the tone in the sequel. But just like with the first movie I had trouble staying awake while watching. I have sadly never managed to watch Bladerunner in on go without falling asleep, despite no lack of trying.
Agree. Cinema-goers failed this movie. In no way was it a failure as a piece of art.
You have no idea what you're talking about. The movie was crap not worth to mention.
Moral of the story: The movie didn't suck, but peoples attention spans and interests do.
This film was an absolute masterpiece.
It is masterpiece
When you start blaming the audience … then something is going very wrong
If people don't like the movie, then people don't like it. That's it. People like you are being like bts fans
@@Klim04 that's a great overexaggeration, bts fans literally thereaten people or say they should've stanned this kpop person and they would've lived, No blade runner 2049 fan does that, As far as I'm concerned. The film was just underappreciated due to the mass audience, People being sad that a movie literally representing humanity itself, Themes of purpose, Loneliness, Feeling special is so disregarded by the mass cause of bigger things like marvel, dc and a bunch of action films everywhere. Sometimes people enjoy the minimal or simple things like blade runner, This isn't toxicity, This is disappointment, Disappointment that every movie should always make the most money possible, be the biggest flick with the biggest budget and filled with humor to make it funny and profitable, Sometimes people just want other people to appreciate the story's message, It's purpose, Not every story needs to be minimal but not every story need to be a big blockbuster with a big cast and a high budget action story, But whether we like it or not, Majority of the film industry nowadays is riddled with big budget action films with the biggest actors, I'm glad dune did well unlike blade runner 2049, It gave me hope that there is still a chance to gain a specific sort of audience for stories with a deeper purpose or meaning, Blade runner 2049 may not have succeeded in the box office but it has become a cult classic, I've never seen the love for this film as bts fans or toxicity, It's people being passionate about a story, A relatablilty, A movie that talks about the meaning of purpose and doing the most humane act, No matter how much shit life gives you, Thank you for reading this if you did, If not no worries.
@@Klim04 I mean, the thing is... people liked it, a lot. The people that decided to give it a shot loved it. It's just the film was made for a very certain demographic that it was bound to fail.
A true masterpiece. Narrative-driven with exquisite visuals and a score that touches your soul. The slower the better. It's so sad that this is becoming a thing of the past.
Totally agree!
There is no narrative though, K’s story is ultimately pointless with no stakes, over an hour of the run time is wasted through walking in silence. This movie being slow doesn’t make it profound. It’s not clever it’s just pretentious. There are no stakes the entire movie until the final 30 minutes which then had the most dissatisfying conclusion ive ever seen. The only thing that K affects in the story is Indiana jones uniting with his disabled, miracle daughter. The narrative does not do a good job at concluding what could have been interesting. This movie isn’t clever for ending before the story concludes, it’s just shit. I genuinely believe people who say they like this movie are lying to themselves to make themselves feel smart for “understanding art” when There’s nothing to understand, it’s a contrived plot based on following a character who’s presence had no affect on the story
@@danielharries3240what do you mean there's no narrative? You mean story? Or plot? Or what? A political narrative? Message?
If you mean story, there's plenty. And the story starts when K finds the bones beneath the tree. One clue leads to another. K makes choices. K makes assumptions. There's plenty of story.
Fury Road lacks story. It looks cool, it's kind of fun, but there's almost zero story.
No stakes? K's identity is the main stakes. What and who he believes he is, the story he has been telling himself. It has personal stakes, meaningful stakes to the protagonist.
Imagine if everything you believe about yourself, your values, your opinions, everything you think is true, was proven wrong. That's what's on the line for K.
Sure it doesn't have big end of the world stakes like a marvel film, but Blade Runner isn't that type of story. Doesn't mean there's no stakes. Doesn't mean it's bad.
There's never been some 'rule' that says good stories must have end of the world stakes.
And to say K has no presence on the plot just isn't true though, is it...
If you take him out the story and replace him with another replicant there is no story.
He's the only one with Ana's memory, which gives the date meaning and motivates his choices. This makes him lie to superiors, make assumptions that aren't true, makes him disobey orders.
As for lying to myself to feel smart, well it would be a strange lie, as the film isn't very artsy or clever. I agree with you there. It's not exactly hard to understand the themes or symbolism (the colour yellow, for example, or what Joi represents).
Even my thirteen year old godson discussed the subtext of the importance put on childbirth by the characters in the story, how no families are depicted, that each character is single and childless, and what that could mean.
It's definitely not some artsy spectacle shit like The Lighthouse. That's for sure.
Visuals is all this movie has, acting, directing, script were not that good
@@thomasfairfax4956this movie didn't need to last that long and could've had more events going on, something interesting, at least in the acting or in the script. And the relationship between Deckard and his daughter suddenly becomes important Way in to the film, which sucks, cause to me that is suppose to matter and it totally doesn't. The antagonist are also all over the place, Joy isn't threatening AT ALL, and it's because the actor lacks range and the director balls to direct his actors, (we are not living on an era of great actors right now) and if the antagonist isn't threatening and the audience can't figure out who the biggest threat between wallace and joy is or if you dont get to see why wallace is suppose to be such a threat is just bs at the end, none of them was slightly interesting, nor scary. They shouldve thought about No country for old men when making this, to learn pace, and character building, or Fury Road to learn to tell a simple story which is whatBlade runner 2049 ultimately is, despite all the philosophical stuff people want to project on it ...or learn from the guys who made Uncut gems, there you find character, and more importantly, pacing.
This is the kind of movie that will be adored after 10 to 20 years like many cult classics. People today can't appreciate it but I bet there's a generation that will sing its praises.
Fun fact, people are already singing praises of this movie. It's already a cult classic.
@@squiddy7155not really lol , it's non existent at this point . Just a meme and some relatable depressed guy thingy.
@@jasonremy8688not at all. i only got brought into watching because it gained a cult classic reputation. you can consider it whatever you want but it flopped in the box office and has grown exponentially in popularity over recent years
@@jasonremy8688well yea ppl relate to the main character because of how he ends up not being a chosen one and is just a nobody like all the rest of us.
That Generation is Generation X, the same that loved the first one. I love both.
I felt that the slowness of the movie is what accented the alienation and emptiness of the world to uncomfortable levels. There is no escape from it in the form of a fast paced story.
True, that's why it's easy to describe as a great film while acknowledging that it was a box office failure. It deliberately did things that are fast ways to lose the trust of a considerable portion of the audiences for films, when those things enhanced the intended artistic portrayal. Film fans that are prepared to catch things delivered in subtle ways and to actively consider the meaning of shot composition etc. (and by doing that, not finding themselves with nothing to do or mull over during the slow-paced parts!) have the acquired taste to fully enjoy it. That's absolutely what it was - acquired taste filmmaking.
Of course, it's a Blade Runner sequel. If you want crappy dialogue, special effects, the same backstory and lightsabers, you know which saga you need to watch
@@totenkopf30 Ha ha.
And then again there’s a percentage of moviegoers that are just in for the popcorn, hot dogs,candy , soda and the a/c .
Yeah literally why drive had problems and why I loved it
Whoever let Denis Villeneuve direct Dune after Blade Runner: 2049s box office bomb is absolutely insane and I love them
The best part is that he learned from his mistakes in blade runner 2049, how many directors are open to admit that? Not many.
@@sebastianmunozochoa1485 how come ? Did he say something ?
@@PK-ow1kj that he wouldn't make another 100 million dollars art movie.
So I guess he will make a commercial but smart movie with Dune.
Well. Both universes have a common atmosphere in which Villeneuve is quite the expert. "Emotionless brutality"
@@sebastianmunozochoa1485 What mistakes would that be? Blade Runner 2049 is a near perfect movie. Giving it more mass appeal would probably lose its brilliance. Therefore I think Villeneuve has nothing to learn from its failure.
I haven’t been engaged in a character like I was in K for years. The guy just going through life, longing for a sign there’s something more to him than his programming, finding out there might be something, only to realise he isn’t special after all, and then deciding to stop waiting and become special through his own actions by doing the human thing to do in a world that’s lost all its humanity. Amazing character arc.
This is exactly how I felt. In the video here he says it's not made clear or easy to care about the cause... That wasn't the point to me. The point was that I cared about K and his self actualization as you described it.
I really liked how different this movie was compared to the cookie cutter template that most movies follow. I also liked that is was slower cause I was able to look at every drawn out shot and appreciate the cinematography. I also think the morbid/sad reality that happens throughout the movie perfectly fits the genre. It’s one of my most memorable movies for how un-movie like it was.
I liked the pacing, but the sets were pompous and devoid of interest, the lighting and cinematography were cliched, the CGI was annoying, and the story was limp. It felt like it was made for Chinese censors, to reinforce CCP messages. Family is all-important. The authorities are the authorities. Just accept what happens.
"Un-movie like"
You must be 12
You just described exactly how i feel about the movie and i didn't know how to word it
@@gregvanpaassenThere's no way someone could watch BLADE RUNNER and call it a bland, authority washed movie that upholds complacency. The entire setting is bleak for a reason. Bait used to be believable.
@@Nameless_Individual Blade Runner, the original, was and still is my favourite movie. 2049 was so obviously made for the Chinese censors it was robbed of all life and art.
"You imagined it was you?"
Gosh I felt that to my bones. Haunting
Dreadfully distinct.
like when your crush says
'oh you thought these were meant for you?'
Obnoxious, and deliberately so. Just like a globalist, which villeneuve is. You dig it because it makes you feel something, even though it's pure demoralisation propaganda. Can you see it yet, happening all around you, in every corner of life? Perhaps you like it.
@@matsimurf_5900 Ran out of your meds I see.
I can just imagine how he felt then, like the entire world just fucking crushed him. This movie breaks me the more I think about it.
Not enough explosions and car chases, and there's no character saying "it's up to us to save the world". When films like Fast and Furious are financially successful, films like BR 2049 face an uphill battle.
And not enough corny jokes.
it's not about car chases and explosion. chris nolan makes movies without car chases and explosion but his movies still make hundreds of millions of dollars worldwide. Inception made $800 hundred million dollars. why? the movie wasn't slow and every scene progressed the story forward, unlike 2049. nolan knows how to make a good movie while also being entertaining. but denis only knows how to make a boring good movie. denis should make lower budget films like prisoners and sicario. blockbuster is not in his skills.
@@mishterkhalid3117 Dunkirk and Tenet was arguably far more terrible in that sense, boring and even more self indulgent. So no, Nolan doesn't always make an interesting movie. All of Denis' films are well produced and fits the narrative and message that it wants to address to it's audience.
The difference is marketing. Powerful marketing can make a bad movie to make good money. Some movies just show all the action snippets in their trailers, but when watching the actual movies the trailers are more entertaining than the movie itself.
@@mishterkhalid3117 i mean Dune is really popping up right now and it is definitely a boring great movie. I think ‘general audience’ will appreciate BR 2049 more now having seen Dune.
@@susbedo9258 dunkirk wasn't slow or boring. it was an hour and a half long and every scene progressed the story forward. there were stakes and risks in every scene. nolan didn't spend 2 minutes pointing the camera at the actors doing nothing unlike 2049, where every scene is just ryan gosling doing things in 0.25× speed. there were no stakes.
also u talk about marketing. as if the marketing team did injustice to 2049. no they didn't. Nolan's trailer shows action scenes because there are actual action scenes in the movie. but 2049's trailer didn't have any action scenes because there were no action scenes in the movie. the few fighting scenes it had, there were no tension and risk like filmento described above.
another thing I want to say is, good filmmaking and blockbuster filmmaking are two very different thing. parasite is a masterpiece of filmmaking but no matter how much of a good job the marketing team does, that movie will never make past a hundred million dollars. on the other hand, Michael bay and Zack Snyder's movie will make billions of dollars at the box office, because those are entertaining (even though those are terrible). if u want to get the best of both, then you get directors like Steven Spielberg or Christopher Nolan who makes good movies while also dominating the box office.
All the things you stated are part of what makes the movie special to me. For the first time in years I felt like the movie treated me like an intelligent human being capable of paying attention for more than two seconds and drawing his own conclusions.
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the fight at the sea wall in the end was SO visceral. seeing this movie in the theater really impacted me. when I got out to my car, I had to sit and just breathe for a bit before driving. I felt I would be to distracted to drive because my mind was trying to process it. It is my favorite movie, hands down.
Ok... All I did when I got out to my car was try to rub the blood back into my ass from sitting for 3 hours.
Not gonna lie, I didn’t even notice the long pauses in the dialogue until you pointed it out. If you’re fully engaged, it all flows pretty well.
Same. I was engaged and didn't notice how long those scenes were.
Yah
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this
Yeah, I literally don't remember anything being that slow in this movie. It was jarring for me when I noticed it here.
Blade Runner 2049: the box office bomb that I wouldn't change a single frame of
personally i would cut the entire harrison ford part... it didnt even make any sense
@@alistairbalistair9596 it was integral to the story but OK
@@blaisetelfer8499 really? the entire 30 minutes of it?
@@alistairbalistair9596 I already answered that by saying "a single frame"
@@blaisetelfer8499 meh, its useless. That whole stupid fight scene they had was dumb, too.
Blade Runner has been made twice, flopped at the cinema twice, and been considered a classic/masterpiece twice.
underrated comment, ty for your insight sir
At the moment I didn't realize it, but K having not to fight his way to get information feels really refreshing. Almost every other film feels like it goes by those rules, that you must have conflict and obstacles to get where you are going, which often feel really forced. Not having that here felt really refreshing.
It's turned into a trope that the main character always struggles to get to the goal. It's so bad that whenever there is a resolution you know that yet another thing is going to come up to block them.
He’s doing the equivalent of going to the DMV, why would there be a battle to recover the records?
When I first watched the film, I thought it was too short. Little did I know, it was 2 hours and 44 minutes long. I didnt even notice the pauses, I was completely engaged in the film, and I loved it.
@@chalkymwhite Exactly. The sad part is that we probably wont see a sequel anytime soon, so it's a shame they ended the film that way.
yeah i was actually really shocked to find out it was almost 3 hours long because it felt like a half hour at most
Omg same
Wait it was 2 hours and 44 minutes. Jesus time flies
I wanted to say the exact same thing. When he said long I thought "what? long? It was two hours tops". then he showed the IMDB page and I was like 😐😑😐
Calls the world “joyless” seconds after talking about Joy’s death
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No don’t leave meeesee! Take me with youuuu!
love kills joy
@@pleasesignintowatchthisvid6724 Luv will tear us apart again.
The public is a failure for not appreciating good art
If you have an eye for massive artistic landscapes and wanting an experience of a dark sad story which is kinda slow but has such potential and promise then it’s for you ! I think it was very well written and directed and Ryan and Ana de armas’s story arc was tragic that I wish they input more time with them both
Once you are in the pace and flow of the movie, those "pauses" or slow parts are organic. They are not noticeable within the context of experiencing the film.
That's very true, i kinda got bored the first time but when i understood the plot on my second watch it became pretty entertaining and extremely interesting, absolute masterpiece.
i didn't even notice it was 2h40 long. i loved it!
Exactly, the dialogues are natural, people need time to think before saying anything, especially with such a dangerous investigation going on. It set the mood, made you take in the gravity of the scene, the impact of the words. Beautiful movie. Rarely see something so perfectly crafted.
It’s because that’s how conversations go In real life. It’s personal. In real life, people aren’t all snappy and quick like MCU movies. People take time to process things and you can see it in the characters in this film.
@@jackmartino8245 it definitely immerses you in the atmosphere and emotion of the dialogue
I find it sad that Dennis believes his movie was too long. It wasn't. I enjoyed every second of it. Then again I am also a fan of the original. I just absolutely loved this movie. I watched it threw times and the last time was a few days ago. Its one of the best movies ever made
BTW we do see replicants used for slave labour. The replicants girls are prostitutes for example they work at one of the pleasure houses. They don't choose to become prostitutes. In another scene we see them talk about selling replicants and adding in pleasure models etc etc
Exactly. Another thing I'd like to point out is that, in a few scenes it was stated that the replicants were made for specific purposes, for instance, "workers" and "pleasure models". It was also implied that everything about their lives are controlled, manufactured, calculated, and that their free will is ultimately an illusion, a recurrent theme that defines the cyberpunk genre.
I also sensed that humans and replicants are intentionally not distinguished, as the film begs the question, of what makes an individual human. The protagonist, a replica, chose to die for a father to reunite with his child, even after the acknowledgement of him never being a part of this relationship; Mr. Wallace, a human, was machine-like and cruel to his creations. In this scenario, a replica has more humanity than a real human.
That's not what he says , he says he loves but that the movie is too long to sell ,
So it's lenght makes it a good film but a bad product
Bladerunner is my favorite movie of all time. 2049 was a great movie but the Jared Leto parts I felt dragged on. Except when the fake Rachel came out
@@pyrefly7575 most of the people like short dopamine hits they like under 2 hours movies
@@luzey8294 also most people are uncultured and stupid . Perhaps there's a correlation
the movie was a literal masterpiece
the slowness adds to the beauty of the movie 🎥
it was literally outstanding
i have watched it like many times
This is my favourite movie of all time. It is exactly the lenght of the shots that give it character and makes it immersive. Seeing scenes from this movie or hearing music that aligns with it ( after dark by mr kitty is a great example ) makes me relive these feelings like I wasn't just watching a movie, but I was K myself. Honestly breathtaking
Every frame of this movie could be an award winning photograph
That’s roger deakins at his best
Same goes with the Blade Runner from 1982
@@jesuschrist3000ADHD Same goes with the Blade runner from 1915
Not every frame ... there are a lot of scenes in 2049 that I find to have very flat, uninteresting lighting and locations ..
The one movie where almost every frame is a visual masterpiece is the first Blade Runner, you can literally pause almost anywhere in the movie and get a great great cinematography ... thats why the first movie was a staple in film schools, they use the movie as a great example of what film makers should aspire to ...
The trouble is, that alone doesn't make a good movie. This particular movie is a prime case of style over substance.
I went to see this in the theater. I watched and enjoyed the whole thing, then as I was leaving, my Samsung watch informed me that I just had a really good 3 hour sleep.
I didn't realize my watch was a critic.
Oof OxO
gutsparygore
*_Dayum_*
That watch is pretty harsh.
You should smash that watch
gutspraygore...that was very funny.
@@ChloeRi great choice
This film was so futuristic, the audience of 2018 (when it released) was not prepared for it.
I just found out my attention spans are great, because I really liked this move it took me 2 days to finish though
Denis Villeneuve is a genius. I love every frame of this film, such a rare cinematic gem in all the cheap, hallow, fast food films today. I love a good spectacle popcorn movie too, but these kind of movie really pull me in, and it's a shame such craft doesn't get the same kind of attention and recognition.
You released a film that lasts for nearly three hours to a generation that has the attention span of a Tik Tok video
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Post Modern art is degrading bro 😐
Yet the Justice league movie that just got released was 4 hours and was a success, and endgame was over 3 hours, the lotr movies were all around 4 hours, and the hateful eight is over 3 hours
@@inanimatemist8610 The Joss Whedon Justice League greatly increases the value of the Snyder Cut. Had the original 4 hours been released from the get go, we'd get people complaining that it was too long but since we know what happens to the corporately handled Justice League only then do people want to see the original vision of the film
Amen man
The movie left me in a Post Movie Depression... that is how much the story grew on me in 2 hours. Not many movies make me feel that way anymore, but I hope this movie wont be the last.
You know it's a really good film when you had a post movie depression, films like these are really under-appreciated these days, most people dont "explore" anymore they would just hop on a bandwagon, the same things happening to the music industry, some artists would just make horse shits and sheeps would blindly follow it
You nailed it bro, I also was left with a feeling of loneliness even though at the end it sends a hope message. Maybe is the fact that hope and love are getting drowned more and more as humanity advances and evolves into a super high tech civ.
2049 is the best movie I have seen. That being said, I have only seen it once, and I haven't able to watch it again... but I find myself looking for clips and listening to the music all the time. The sadness that this movie wasn't rewarded as it should have been layers on top of the sadness of the original movie.
Hope Dune kicks ass and people learn to love Vilenueve and eventually a new blade runner for Us!!!
Don't worry bro, Denis Villneuve is a genius. As long as he (and other like him) are making movies with beautiful scores and with cinematogprahers like Roger Deakins, cinema will live on and evolve.
*Tiktok generation has a 15 second attention span*
His JOI death was very significant to Joe/K action to help Deckerd reunited with his daughter. He realized no matter who you are, a human or a replicant, born or manufactured, AI or not, as long as you life and die for others you are "A Real Human Being and A Real Hero" and the ending really give a cathartic feels to conclude the story like the original movie did.
No great film is too long, no bad film too short. Blade Runner 2049 is a masterpiece that will only grow and find its audience….much like its predecessor.
It’s too artificially long. Such as those scenes where people are just staring and nothing is happening or they take 15 seconds to say 6 words. The movie could have been 25 minutes shorter and been the same movie
@@toptiertech7291 except it makes perfect sense for characters in those scenes to measure their words and take it slow. Thank god those scenes are paced like they are. They behave like actual people instead of glorified text to speech devices.
@@xentiment6581 no it doesn’t make sense for them to take 10 seconds to give a 3 word answer. That’s not how people in real life talk
@@toptiertech7291 this is not real life. this is a different reality and having in mind the world, the situation and the characters it makes perfect sense.
@@xentiment6581 “this is not real life” works for some things like them being replicants and the technology. But the way they talk is stupid, drawn out and slows the movie down. It doesn’t add tension or build suspense. That’s why people didn’t go to see the movie
"general audiences" is becoming a swear word lately. Breaks my heart when these far richer experiences don't make money, because it instantly has an effect. How many masterpieces has the tepid response of "general audiences" cost us...
how the hell is it a masterpiece? It's a tedious watch
@@carlosandleon Lol "general audience"
Carlos Leon tedious if you aren’t a fan of storytelling and just looking for a quick bit of entertainment
lol just like "NPC" remember that?
@@dalano_films bruh movies are MADE to entertain
I just rewatched it and this movie is absolutely a masterpiece. There was a line in the movie that got me so emotional and k dont even really know why. When k is talking to the one eyed lady, the leader of the resistance and she says to him " oh you thought it was you... We all wish it was us.. and thats why we believe" my eyes got a little moist.
I remember I wanted to watch it with my parents a long time ago. They were into movies with a lot of action from the start, this movie didn't have that so they got bored in the first 30 minutes and then we all decided to just switch to something else. But I kept hearing good things about this movie and fast forward to yesterday, I finally managed to see it all, it destroyed me (in a good emotional way), almost gave me an existenial crysis + now I have a big crush on Ana de Armas, that woman is gorgeous (if angels would be real, I think they would look just like her, yes, that gorgeous). At the start, this movie is making sure you feel the energy of it,which is depressing. A dystopian future (the way this world is rolling, Im afraid we are getting closer and closer to that future). It's a movie with a deep message and the average Joe may be unable to catch that, he just wants lots of action and explosions, Michael Bay style. Its a psychological movie, that's why it didn't do so well (its not for everyone like your usual Fast and Furious or Transformers). I love psychological movies, they are more memorable, they make you think about your own decisions and even do a recap of your whole life, that's the magic of these movies, after the credits roll and the lights are up again, you just sit there with an empty look thinking about what you just watched, it sticks with you the entire evening. Im not saying mainstream action movies are not fun, they are, I enjoy those too, those movies are a fun escape from the real world problems, but these type of movies will always make me feel a certain way.
"fixing' this film for mass audience would ruin it.
No, it would be appreciated more
It wouldn't be Blade Runner then
Antoine Scott Honestly, it’s only been 3 years since its release and I think we’re already getting to the point where everyone thinks it’s amazing. It hurts that general audiences didn’t go, but I’ll always have MY theater experience which was 10/10
@@MrKstate21 we`re getting to the point where audience dosen`t think at all
Ur right
I wish more movies incorporated those pauses after dialogue, it's such a breath of fresh air from the usual beat of a scene
It's also far closer to real conversation
@@TheStarBlack underrated and true
Because it feels real. Because people need a short moment to think about their response. Because in real life, we do not read things off a script. That's what the MCU gets so wrong. Everyone always has this perfect response ready. Nobody ever seems to need to think.
Im sick of a character giving a quip and giving half a second to pet the audience laugh, mcu movies feel like sitcoms sometimes
Watch Dragged Across Concrete. The dialogues in the movie are brilliant, full of these weird little pauses, great story, one of the better movies I've seen lately.
Why good movies fail? Because general audiences have bad taste.
Interstellar is also a very long movie that is very demanding of audiences. It's just more engaging to watch because there's always something for the main characters to do and conficts to overcome.
It also has a very different goal in mind: Even against all odds, even against the very death of everything we depend upon - we will survive and struggle to overcome. With all the flaws our society inherits, our kind shows, we will struggle on. And we will succeed.
A beautiful message. But a lot grander than what Blade Runner 2046 tries to portrait:
Existence in our modern society is inherently lonely. And while you're the protagonist of your own story, in the grand scheme of things you're not even a footnote.
Interstellar is demanding because of the physical concepts. (And the accent, I guess :)
Blade Runner 2046 because of it's psychological once. Not going to say one is harder or the other easier to grasp, just trying to point out differences.
This is exactly what Martin Scorsese was talking about when he called the marvel movies a theme park
Yea, and then he went and ripped off himself with that turd called "The Irishman", which is a carbon copy of "Goodfellas".
Sebbe R Not really bud. The Irishman is a movie adaptation of a book called ‘I heard you paint houses’. The only thing it shares with Goodfellas is the Mafia and a director. You’d have to be really stupid to think like that. Good job bud.
@@doomwalker9934 Oh, hard words from a nobody from the internet. I think I won't be able to stop thinking about you, bud.
@@sebber7992 Irishman a turd? How exactly
@@deadmeme4276 Almost carbon copy history to Goodfellas (I've recently learned the movies are based on two different books, but still they're way too similar); Scorsese chose actors that are way too old to play their roles (De Niro could barely move in the fight scene with the clerk that mistreated his daughter) and above all, it's a 3 hours 29 minutes film. If you can't make a standard length film, you better plan a mini series. Most people watched it in two parts because it's tedious and long.
It’s so sad that both Blade Runner and his sequel didn’t receive much attention in their time because they are amazing films that become classics years later
I only watched the original and while I think the cinematography and atmosphere were really unique and captivating I had a lot of the issues mentioned in this video. The storytelling was really confusing and seemed to go kinda nowhere for me. In the beginning I enjoyed the shots and visuals but after a certain time the lack of a captivating narrative started to bore me and I lost interest.
For me Interstellar for example does a much better job at this. Besides its great pictures it also had an interesting premise which led to me enjoying every aspect of the movie more because it always seemed to matter. I know this is just about opinions at the end of the day but after this video I can already tell that I probably won´t watch this movie because of the uninteresting plot.
but 2049 became a classic instantly
@@uncledolan9228 I think I might be able to save you here. I have seen both movies, and I do feel pretty much the exact same way you do about the original. Honestly, up until the last act of the movie, I felt I had no clue what was actually going on storywise, except for a few plot details. I also really didn't enjoy the action (don't get me wrong, I understand at what time the movie was made, but that doesn't change the fact I am watching it today).
That being said, Blade Runner 2049 is possibly the best movie I have ever seen. It definitely helps to know the world, I think, because it saves you some attention during the first act. The plot isn't uninteresting though, I can already tell you that much. I watched this movie as a 16 year old and enjoyed the living shit out of it, so it ain't boring, that's for sure. It's also not as all-over-the-place as the original. And that the cinematography is good is out of the question.
Since you've already seen the original, I recommend watching the short films released to YT that explain what happens between 2019 and 2049 in the Blade Runner universe.
And then choose the biggest screen and the best sound system you have available, and enjoy that beauty.
Uncle Dolan that’s really surprising cause I found blade runners plot to be very compelling. The great thing about the movie is that it implores you to pay close attention to the movie to understand the story better. And I don’t mean this as an insult to you. I watched the movie 3 times to figure out Deckard’s investigation which was very compelling as he found more clues. I feel like some people are easily fooled by the visuals and think that’s all it is. It’s a great investigation movie which is why the Ghost in the shell anime had a similar plot to it.
@@theBenStrothmann Didn't know that Blade Runner had more lore besides the two films and a game. Thanks I'll check them out👍🏿
Your arguments are well presented, but you made the point in the first few seconds of your video. Most people dont want to think, they dont want to reflect, they just want to glare at flashing lights and witness loud sounds for specific leangth of time, no less no more.
It's insane how much this film reminds me of Barry Lyndon. It expects a lot from the viewer and doesn't patronize them. A lot of mainstream audiences found the movie boring and thought that nothing happened. Both have themes that don't appeal to mainstream audiences. They use long holding shots to convey the story and let you sit with the world and the characters for a moment, and have characters that aren't often very emotive. Both were huge monetary flops. In time, this film will be considered an underrated masterpiece just like that. Unfortunately films are products before anything else and, chances are that if you want to make something truly special, it's not going to be appreciated in its time, and it probably won't be monetarily successful. Basically it flopped because it was too good.
In short, The Movie isn't the Problem but the audience is.
I loved the movie but it was clearly for a more niche audience. Maybe the failure is putting 300m into a niche movie. It made a lot, but didn't make investment back
So pretentious
headjump I don’t know if ive been living under a rock with most of my friends. i literally texted and asked 51 of my friends. 40 never knew there was a new blade runner, 7 loved it, & 4 said meh. I just finished it. I love it. And ive never seen the first ones! Although i also like cyberpunk....
You make your movies for the audiences, not in vaccum.
Loving the mistake though
Give credit to the outstanding Roger Deakin with the amazing and beautiful cinematography
Agreed. The man rightfully deserved his Oscar for this movie.
He also did 1917, the absolute legend.
Give me a break. It's just lifeless areas devoid of music and spark of a soul.
It's heen done before and better even by lower budget films.
It's like saying JJ abrams cinematography is good. It's just 4k sand, and more sand, and rocks, and totally empty, weird interior architecture with a yellow filter. The end.
The original's cinematography was amazing not because of insane filtering or "up your own ass " levels of " OMG THIS ROCK IS IN 4K! LOOK AT IT!"
Like fucking Ridley does so blatantly without meaning these days.
That film was incredible because it was working together with the music and the idea of showing a grand futuristic world in a light of awe and the focus remained as such, whilst also showing that the world is actually alive. The prequel to this film had more god damn SOUL than the entirety of 2049. And it wasn't even in the fucking film .
Where have we seen that before? OHH THATS RIGHT! Alien fucking covenant.
You people have no remote clue what good cinematography actually is. Just pretentiously spewing the same nonsense new fans are claiming without being able to think for yourselves.
As if it wasn't point enough that Rutger Haur himself magnified the issue of a soul being missing in this film.
This film didn't bomb because people dont have interest in these films anymore. This film bombed because Ridley and his followers havent a remote clue in HELL what they are doing anymore.
James Salvatore Jesus, who pissed on your cereal this morning?
@@jamessalvatore7054 You're forgetting that the original Blade Runner was ALSO a box office bomb, James.
Why is this considered such a good film? Have modern standards fallen so low that mediocre work now looks brilliant?
In other word, it doesn't dumb down itself for the mainstream audiences.
No, it's just dumb for how long it takes to get to the point, and how nothing much happens, and also how halfbaked that script really is
The truth is - Blade Runner 2049 is a $150 000 000 art house movie. The fact that it box officed $260 000 000 is miracle by itself.
it deserved more
I get what you’re saying but I wouldn’t call this ‘art house’.
Art house is usually very intimate with its settings & characters. This world is vast, & aside from Joi & K, all of the protagonists are hardly in the film.
Lastly, for the most part-art house is shit. BR2049 is amazing.
@@Red-Eyed_Goose art house Is usually pretty deep to the point that people sometimes over or underate it, but to be honest this might not be arthouse, but really it's smarter than the vast majority of modern cinema, and it is a shame more people didn't appreciate this movie when it came out.
I for one wholeheartedly regret not seeing this in cinema, and that's after watching it on TV
thats the only problem actually had this movie not costed over 150 million it would have been considered a success
Hard disagree. It’s a perfect sequel to the original. A sequel. If you haven’t watched the first one, and don’t like it, then you shouldn’t have watched it in the first place.
It’s so sad that all the most positive points about the movie that I agreed with are negative ones for most other people
I'm one of those dumb audience members. I hate characters that don't so emotion. I don't like slow movies. I often miss subtle details.
Wait blade runner 2049 failed?! I thought it was incredible it didnt thought it floped
@@karolisbaranovas3675 It flopped hard, which is damn shame, the movie is amazing.
@@CrissAssasin7 I was so disappointed when I heard it flopped while movies like Happy Death Day were SO SUCCESSFUL. This is the primary I hate Happy Death Day.
@@gfilmer7150 It's all about being a commercial movie, movie-making wise Blade Runner is beyond amazing, but if you can't get people to pay for it then you don't win
The visuals of this movie are what kept me interested through the slow parts. While the story and characters are, in my opinion, amazing, through the long scenes, like the archives, the beauty of the film is what kept my attention the first time I watched it.
I feel like the long drawn out scenes compliment one of the main concepts of the movie. That we aren’t special. By having to wait for any type of resolution the viewer (or at least me) gets such a bigger hit of emotion when something is finally resolved. Watching Wallace kill the poor replicant in such a drawn out scene made luvs subtle tears that much impactful.
I think that twist is what made the movie great, because while he isn’t special it shows just how close they are to humans that he could think he was the special one.
I thought the whole of the movie him became a human which leads to him giving sacrificing his own life for others
Exactly! I told that to my friends. K isn't "destined" to be great, he isn't "special", he's not a "chosen one", his fate doesn't led him to greatness. He ACHIEVES greatness by doing what he chooses to do, because he believes in what he does
@@MrX2192 I completely agree. I think one of the cool things at the end is that k dies actually feeling the snow, which he had been attempting to do in the movie. And then it contrast that with the actually human (Ana) when she can only feel fake snow. And the end of the movie, I think, begs the question. Who truly lived? And who was truly human?
I felt it didn’t mash well with audiences because stories tell a common story, what should our ideals be? But in a postmodern world we don’t really understand narrative anymore. And so this story doesn’t explore what the human ideal is, but what does it mean to be human. And humans have value systems. And I think the highest value, or ideal, is the process that produces values, which is something like the human spirit. It’s a beautiful movie, but I think the postmodernist don’t appreciate it.
Fr I felt shocked too
@@mariog1490 👏
I did not know it flopped,.. When i saw it i was amazed, and everybody around the office was talking about how great it was
I came out of the IMAX talking about how shit it was, not gonna lie xD But I was the only one doing that.
you have cultured friends and colleagues. nice
Really this movies always do poorly coz people want Bays 3b boobs buts bombs, cinema stopped being a multidimentional art and just and entreteining art, people know days do not go to the cinema to ponder about life, and thats okey, safly it means that movies like this ones never really go out, coz they dont pay off, the only reason this one ever did is coz it had a big title to back it up so the producers tried to milk it, I recommend that if you enjoy this films turn your eyes to books, there are plenty and they are great
Blade runner 2049 is great example of poor storytelling.
@@gabbar51ngh imo it's great, lets the viewer experience what the main character is feeling. Lets the viewer think and the slowness of it lets the viewer savor every frame of the movie.
Some excellent points, and I think you’re right in that it demands a lot from the audience. It’s a meditative journey about what it means to be human, but it’s all in the subtext, and I find this fascinating with K’s journey.
After my recent break up, the slow pace really gave such a peaceful and comforting feel to me while watching.
I actually liked the lower speed of the film. In a world where every other movie flashes whatever it got in the least amount of time possible, being able to breathe was a welcome feature of the film.
Blade runner rythm and subtlety was very refreshing. It let you immerse in the universe and it's not "ON YOUR FACE". I enjoyed every minute of that movie back in october 2017... but I knew it wouldn't please everyone. People with who I was watching it find it long and there was almost no one to watch it.
People are, saddly, too much accustomed to fastpaced movie like marvel, Fast and furious or the new star wars.
not just being able to breath but to think too : in classic blockbusters, they might as well give us the script since the actors are often basically telling us everything we need to know, while Blade Runner 2049 give us time to think about what we just saw and where the plot could go next, which is great
Pacing is hugely important for mood. 2001, Once Upon A Time in the West, most Kurosawa movies expand time to make you fully stay with a mood and let you really absorb it. I loved the pacing in 2049, sometimes you need to feel the discomfort that the characters feel and aren’t allowed to just walk away from.
The film had a speed that matched the world and characters that were given, along with the tone and inverse proportion to plot complexity.
I love this movie. However, to be totally fair, had I watched it in theatres, it would not have done it justice. I think I was honestly pausing every 15 - 20 minutes to look something up on the wiki or internet to truly appreciate all the subtleties
Seeing Blade Runner 2049 and failure in the same sentence hurts me deeply
I really hope that Dune will perform better, but, to be honest, I kind of doubt it. And I'm genuinely afraid of Hollywood losing patience with Denis Villeneuve or him adapting to a more mainstream way of filmmaking over those undeserved failures. That would be such a shame, because he is one of the greatest directors of today.
The fact that Dune is only the first half of the story and that it's likely to not perform well enough to warrant a sequel hurts my soul
it doesn't pander the the lowest common denominator.
Lone Starr as someone who adores Blade Runner 2049 with all of my heart... yeah. I am absolutely blown away that so much money and resources have been put into Dune. I’m more than happy about it, but this could be our last huge budget Denise film
It would be nice if major studios could set aside time and funding for films that may not be profitable purely for the sake of artistic merit, and not as a gamble that they hope pays off. Succesful actors often take this approach (some roles for money, some for art), but the studios themselves are thoroughly risk adverse. Of course it's easy to say this when it's not my $150m funding it; ultimately movie executives are businessmen, not patrons of the arts.
Saw it two nights in a row on release, once for the audiovisual experience, once for the plot subtleties. It is a masterpiece and that rarest of things - a worth sequel to a cinematic classic. It doesn't work so well on the small screen, but it is a reminder of what big-screen cinema is for - total immersion in every detail, every facial nuance, every fleeting nugget of sci-fi audio gold, every panorama, every artistic concept and set design in the most coherent, captivating vision of the future that's ever been put on film, IMHO
Blade Runner 2049 flopped at the box office, but that doesn’t make a failure of a movie. It is a masterpiece that has created such an engaged audience over time, it feels as part of the movie’s ambience knowing that people didn’t pay attention at first. It is beautiful and empty, it feels distant in space and time, yet, the human traits to which we can relate are the perfect mix for top notch Sci-fi projects. Thanks to whoever noticed and let Denis direct Dune after this flop, that’s knowing what to look for.
While leaving the cinema after seeing bladerunner 2049 I came to the depressing conclusion of “well they’ll never let someone spend $150 million to make a movie like this ever again”
Good! Movie sucked ass!
Luckily not true bcs they let him made a Dune that will probably also bomb in theaters but hopefully will be also great movie
@@DjJokerr you uncultured swine
@@DjJokerr Found the low IQ casual that can't understand anything deeper then a puddle and will never leave his hometown lol
@@dukezap1 Typical idiot hipster response. If some doesn't like the movie they must be low iq. Idiot!
there was no point in the movie where I felt boring or slow......this movie is simply a masterpiece
That's Denis Villeneueve for you. He is so incredibly deliberate about his visual design and what his characters do and say, that you feel like you can go wild considering even the smallest of things that have just happened on-screen. From most other directors except auteur directors that have a similar obsessive-yet-subtle approach, if you did that, you would be wildly overthinking so many things on-screen and you'd either not keep pace with the film, or you'd go nowhere intellectually satisfying, or perhaps just sound like you've done a few lines of coke if you share those wild lateral-thought theories with people.
But you *can* do that with Villeneueve films, because that's precisely what he wants you to do, and he really is that careful with what he puts on screen. It's why he was such a good choice for Dune - the book has to explain so much by internal monologue and other non-film-translatable methods. With Dune he was able to put across the core plot in a more straightforward fashion to make a more accessible film, and he does that at the same time as the detailed worldbuilding in the 'small' moments and pieces. His version of the Gom Jabbar scene deviates from the book in a few small ways, but in those small ways, he changed the scene to be, in my opinion, even more effective at sowing the seeds for things later on, and for getting across the true nature of the Bene Gesserit (and Paul Atreides) better than the original book even did.
I seen it on sigma stuff thought I’d give it a shot not just for the sigma stuff it’s cuz it looked like a good film Was told it was slow and boring and not worth it I put that on and not one moment did my notice slip on it I watched it 6 times that day Idk why but I love that film
Lol seriously I felt kind of shocked when he showed the dialogue and walking scenes because they felt so normally paced in the movie
Exactly. There was too much mystery to feel bored
Excellent art piece
You're wrong, you know.
My then girlfriend (now fiancée) and I walked into the cinemas for air conditioning, had no idea what 'Blade Runner' was, but ended up watching 'Blade Runner 2049', and loved every moment of it. You don't need "preparation"; it's about being able to appreciate films and their themes.
Well he is just giving an honest opinion about a movie that lacks, character, world building, pacing and a director who understands that
This took the spot for my fav sci fi of all time the second I saw it in theatres. Every aspect of it felt like art and it was too mesmerizing to blink.
Ryan Gosling deserves credit for his role choices, he has starred in quiet a few amazing films
He could very easily have become a pretty boy heartthrob type and made a lot of money doing it. So ya, respect!
Quite a few, not quiet
@Seeing Through Cruise is my favorite! The Notepad is pretty great too!
Helter Skelter Think about it: This is a sequel to “Lars and the Real Girl.”
I couldn't agree more. He's honestly one of my favorite actors for that very reason. He respects the art of film and doesn't care much about fame at all.
Honestly didn't notice the long shots, time really does fly when you're enjoying yourself.
Yeah, i did't even notice the runtime cos i was having such a great time.
I only noticed when Jared Leto was on screen. The way he talked made me want to check my watch now and then
i didnt even know it was 3 hour long even after i watched it. Amazing movie
Yeah, i have to disagree on Filmento on the slow and long shots part. Here is an example: Interstellar is a long film, and it is 2h45m long, and it makes nearly 700 mil at the box office, you can say the same with Inception even though the film is very briskly paced, Blade Runner 2049 however failed at the box . The reasons are clear: Christopher Nolan is very popular, Denis Villeneuve isn't and Blade Runner isn't a popular IP. But WB thought Villeneuve was very well known and BR was huge, so they did the mostly same strategy like they did with Nolan's films. And it didn't end well. I still freaking love 2049 but it was horribly marketed.
@@snack491 well i still respect WB for giving this movie a shot otherwise there aren't many studios left anyway with disney gobbling up everything and i can guarentee that disney would not make any such movie after they abandoned TRON
to me this movie is the best example of the "literally me" sub genre that recently popped up. I never really had any movie with which i felt immersed on a personal level, but BR2049 just had it all.
my daily pace is not filleld with conflict, obstacles and such, its mostly nothing, passing the day to reach its end, sure with a goal but you wont reach it in 1 hour. Fears and worries of the human existence, losing all you love, finding your purpose, questioning yourself if it even means anything. This movie really captured it all. Being human is not being a hero, being human is confusing, absurd and scary. Bladerunner tackled humanity in the first film in quite a bizarre way, however this sequel truly showes reality. You're probably nobody important in the great scheme, not even sure if theres worth to your existence, but screw that each has their own life to live, and the end scene shows the ultimate choice of individuality Joe did, and there is nothing more human than that
Except that Joe, at least to the replicants, IS a hero. He is important, he is one of the main pieces who will probably lead to a global revolution, and his story is full of conflicts(his intro is a physical conflict). It's not because he is not the Messiah that it doesn't mean that he is not important or special. Hell he is even showed to be the better model by winning his fight against Luv so again definitely not an average "literally me" guy
Guys, you understand that the only point you like in the film is the ambiance and the image? This dude just explained to us how the movie tries to lost his audience by 5 different methods. If this is a good movie, what is a bad movie? If you dont try the catch the audience interest, if you dont make logical choices, if you end the film without any moral or even any sense, thats just stange
K/Joe has such an amazing arc. He didn’t want to be just “another replicant”, he wanted to be something more, so it was devastating to see him learn he wasn’t the child of Rick. But reflecting on the events that happened throughout the movie, Joe did the most human thing to do, and saved Rick to help him reunite with his child. At the conclusion of the movie, Joe ended up becoming a lot more than just “another replicant”. Despite being a replicant, Joe proved he was more human than a lot of humans, and that he had a purpose. I believe he died in a way he would want to, to have purpose and to have a life worth reflecting upon. That’s why I love his arc and his character. It’s just so deep and poetic :)
And this movie is still amazing in 2024
And Deckard receives the same humanity lesson. Twice. From two replicants.
More human than human.
@asadabdulqaabir4006 I feel like both movies are really about what it really means to be human, or at least sentient or conscious. Moreover, I feel that we are forgetting this lesson as we continue to advance Artificial Intelligence.
I like your analysis. Ryan Gosling is a bit too wooden in this film though. He doesn't have the range that Harrison Ford does.
Did K die at the end? I wasn't too sure because he did lose a lot of blood from the stab and gun shot
I love that there is no forced conflict in this movie.
Movie without Conflict = FAILURE
GRRM knows the heart in conflict with itself is literature and cinematic Gold
A replicant that's awakening in thought suddenly is snuffed out for no reasons is boring trash
No conflict means no story, its basically a depressing slice of life then
You fucking sicken me
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This movie should've been called Dreams of Green... know what Im sayin 🙄
@@springbloom5940 Memories of Green heh
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Like you I really enjoyed this film but, like the psychology you describe, I also felt somewhat disconnected and unfulfilled at the end of film, but wasn't sure why. A REALLY smart analysis video. Thank you.
The ending is not just about K dying, but the fact that he dies. What makes him 'special' is not who he is, but what he does. He thinks that being the first replicant born will enable him to break from his chains and be his own person, just like a human: when in fact he breaks his chains simply by deciding to. Those tears in rain have formed a life sustaining pool that will live on in the memories...
This was an existential movie for me. The scene where he sees Joy in the advertisement, at this point both Joy and Lt Joshi are dead and he realizes he's not special, the structure of his world and belief system upended. He looks at his gun, and an intense Hans Zimmer score starts. He's an android who's had an existential crisis and is deciding to exercise his freedom to act.
You must have read the book instead of the movie because in this movie he doesn't have a belief system.
@@mcleanblades9234 He doesn't have a belief system, but he believed that Joy loves him, he believed that he is the son of Deckard, he believed he is meant for something grander than himself. But all of that are either lies or broken. The only thing he knows now and truly believed at that moment, is that he is a nobody replicant who can do whatever he wanted, he knows he is free to do whatever act he thought is worth doing
Subjects already covered in the first film.
Please stop using the word "existential." Thanks.
@@scottk1525 Angst, Decision, Being, Dread, Nothingness - "Existential" works for this movie.
Real life is made from subtle things. This is why being in Blade Runner is like living inside a world and top notch storytelling.
Very valid point
Exactly but general audience don’t care. Blade runner 2049 is phenomenal of a movie!
You SMASHED the nail on the head. That is the best description I've seen of these movies and how to make a movie feel real
@@Gadget-Walkmen nah it sucked and the failure was predictable after watching it
Imagine thinking good photography=good storytelling
As usual, great analysis. Liked this movie, but felt as if it fell a little short and you articulated the why of it so well.
If this didn't do well at the box office, it says a lot about the average movie viewer. This film was an absolute masterpiece, work of art in fact. When I heard somebody was planning a sequel to the original, I thought "there is a brave person". I also doubted they could get even close to the original, but this was a very worthy successor. In some ways it was better.
I think interpreting Joi as "it was never real anyway" is missing the point by far, it was the most real of all, because he can't replace it with another Joi.
Yeah, he did put "real" in quote unquote marks at 9:28 to emphasize the unusual moral quandary that 'real' is, when it comes to Joi. So I think he does get that much.
I think the point was that Joi didn't have emotions. She couldn't even truly care for K. That was the point of the scene with the giant version. She called K "joe" just like his version of Joi did. Witch means that even the most intimate moments were programmed in.
People fail to understand that scene. The whole movie is a bunch of characters choices that eventually make k human. Joe had to kill Sapper Morton but in doing so found miracles. Then joe had to find the child, which he then believes to be him. Now he believes he has the potential to have a soul. By not killing himself he makes a choice. He fails his baseline test and has to run. The fact that k made a choice is y he failed the test. Joe wants to find Deckerd to have a father son moment. But Deckerd tells us he never has to meet his daughter because loving someone can mean ur a stranger. (This is important for later) when joi is killed I’d say this is his life altering feeling. It doesn’t really matter if he loves her or not. It was a feeling that was real to him. As humans I’m sure u have an insane thing u love to much. Maybe u keep ur dead dads watch because u feel it’s a part of him. Maybe ud die for ur wife bc u think she’s the reason u live everyday. Emotions are personal, that’s y they are human. Now wat happens next is wat makes the movie “woke” because people didn’t understand. W this replicant oppression they want to start their woke revolution. The chick w the missing eye believes this is only achievable by killing Deckerd, the last link to the revolution, Wallace and the child. When joe is walking on the bridge realizing he isn’t special he sees the joi ad. He finds that he may not be special, but his emotions were special. The choice to save Deckerd makes no sense, joe almost guarantees failure. But even in the face of failure we get to c him make choices. And he choses to die so a father and a daughter can reunite. He dies for strangers. People believe joes choice to save was born from woke ideas. But I don’t believe that and neither should u. Joe did this so he could feel something permanent and become human. The emotions he felt don’t disappear like tears in rain, they are permanent and special to him. They will leave imprints, like tears in snow.
Maybe there is only one true Joy and all proprietors of those gudjets has had to deal with just a skins of her, not a copies?
@@tylerthegreat8001 by that argument K dosent have emotions either because he's synthetic too.
Tbh, I actually like the Twist where it's revealed K isn't Deckard's kid. "The main characters being related to each other" reveal has kinda been done to death lately.
The Bandog the subversion is a great choice bc it reveals k to be a hero who doesn’t matter. There is nothing special about k.
@@mariog1490 it's the story and insertion in the movie to try to find out the truth that matters the most, and all the questions that the character like K brings to the table, like if you are not the main character do your life and choices even matter?
@@franjoferic6888 well said. "Mere mortals" can still make difference if they _want_ to.
It was so good. It gave K a chance to make a choice. He wasn't born special, but he could choose to be special; he could choose to help Deckard and his daughter reunite. And he did.
I guessed that it couldn’t be as obvious as being K, so I worked out that it must be a daughter - I spent most of the final third convinced it must be Luv!
I think this film is a genius masterpiece if you look at this way: (SPOILERS)
K's whole journey to him was nothing short of underwhelming especially at the end, he thought he finally had a purpose. That he was the golden child, that he was born, not made. He fought for something that he did not have direct relation to despite his hopes, this is empathized, I think, by the distance between Deckard and his daughter at the end (They have reunited, while K is outside contemplating on the emptiness of his life, especially with Joi gone, who wasn't even real to begin with)
K longs for something real, and every time just when he thinks he's finally reached it, it's gone.
I really like the sound effects and visuals you put in for fun!
I completly approve the pace of this film. It gives me the chance and time to build my own recreation of the world I'm being shown. Is more like reading a book, or a comic, in wich you can somehow "pause" the narrative just to explore deeper in the layers of that reality and make it yours. I wouldn't change a coma.
I think this only works for people whos invested in the world that the movie takes place in, i loved the pacing too
I only watch it the first time once. I become increasingly impatient on repeated viewings so I prefer conceptually dense and quick pacing to maintain engagement. If you consume a lot of media in general then plots become increasingly predictable.
Creativity and art reveals itself best when there are heavy constraints. If you're creative you'll have experienced adding everything initially only to eventually remove it all to strengthen the message.
@@dangerfly "I only watch it the first time once"... Happens to everybody. LoL
@@GreenInvasion When I give it a second watch, it’s also the first time watching it twice. Weird how that works. 😂
@@dangerfly The other day I watched this for the 10th time. It felt like the 10th time watching it. I think it was actually the 10th time. Still so good.
Long shots makes the audience feel much more "in the movie". Was used in great movies such as The God Father and 2001. It is really sad people in general doesn't enjoy this.
Gen Z and milennials* don't enjoy it, because of their (our?) ever shortening attention spans.
Jupp, was the first time in a long time I actually felt like I was moving around in the world with the characters on screen. I also had time to observe what they were watching which was nice.
Yes to bring someone into the world. Not drown them in it. Using a long shot every 15-20 minutes=good, every other shot=tedious.
I loved the quiet moments and the fact that the creators give you time to develop a sense of place. Watching K sit in Sapper's house as the garlic boiled was one of my favorite moments.
I need to watch The Godfather.
Great analysis, it made me understand better how I felt about the movie and also about the Villeneuve's Dune movies, thank you
Personally, this is exactly what I loved about this film, it wasn't rushed, no over the top action. It was atmospheric and bit artistic as its prequel.
loved this movie so much, sad to see it flopping in the box office :(
also great work as usual Filmento, you pointed out right things. Seeing shots like this seems really long but watching the movie i got so pulled in..the beautiful lightning and world build was jaw dropping that i didn't even notice how time flies. I liked those silent moments, they felt real. But for people who are more simple popcorn film fans this may be a huge turn off hence the flop :(
It was fantastic. I loved the relationship between the hologram girl and ryan gosling, the overall atmosphere and the art style of the movie.
So did the original in 1981, but it gained it's reputation in the following years...
But did it flop? It didnt lose money contrary to what filmento says. I think Europe saved the movie. It ended up gather around 250 million and only cost 150 million. It was made for die hard fans.
@@evolema4945 Production companies usually say that they have to double the investment to consider that they did not lose money.
Why did everyone expect 2049 to be some blockbuster hit? Blade Runner wasn't a hit. It was a slow burn, finally hitting a crescendo with the release of the final cut in 2007. Scott kept the ember smoldering for 15 years by that point. Blade Runner 2049 was a masterpiece movie that wasn't meant to be a conventional blockbuster.
@ Drew L well said, exactly right. This is more like European film making in the mould of Wenders or Herzog.
That is because they spend $185 millions on it and grossed $92.1 million in the United States. The people in the studio expects they money back.
@@diegoreynoso8730 in the US, $260.5M worldwide. Finish reading the wiki article. And that's beside the point as noted above with the original.
So that logic says 15 yrs
2049 will be another Masterpiece.
Eggggxelent.
Good good.
Will be remembered in history n not forgotten like all the other BEYism blockbusters.
In case you didn't know, this isn't a school project. Studio pours money into movies to make money in return.
I mean... I get it. Not everyone who watches movies does it because they want to be patient and observant. And Blade Runner 2049 is a movie that demands exactly that. It's also really obscure at times, and I can see why a lot of people wouldn't want to see it, wouldn't be interested by it, or wouldn't be able to appreciate it.
just saw this now, your analysis is pretty much exactly what I thought when i saw it. It was a pretty amazing film, I watched it on an amazing old school, large screen vintage cinema in St Louis (I'm from Australia, but just happened to be passing through there when it was released). Bladerunner 2049 held true to the original movie (which I saw and loved also), the vibe and the visuals, and even the story etc where updated, but still held the air of the first movie... but by the time this sequel came out.. any interest from the first movie had become history, niche fans (like me), and the feel and of how this franchise plays out is just totally a different realm to what movie goers and young people who have never even seen the first movie just don't relate to. The pacing and the visual just don't cut it with today's audiences, and the goal posts of what movies are (especially big block-y buster, and sci fi style movies) has totally changed, and modern movies have trained audiences to want more and more popcorn explosions... shorter and faster attention, everything more direct.
Exactly everything you said in this video, the hollywood machine, like a good covers band full of musicians, has fallen victim to creating more and more of what they thought was popular... until it has almost turned/trained the entire paying public into basic zombies, and the studios just have to continually chance shorter and faster and less attention and more explosions etc.. until there is nothing creative left in their very own industry...
It's exactly what I thought coming out of the theatre, I thought it was a great movie, but I knew watching it that it wasn't going to do well, and there were younger audience members walking out of that 1/3 full cinema looking pretty disappointed... I loved it as it brought up nostalgic feelings very well from the first movie.. but kids who weren't even born then, just didn't get it...
When great movies fail.....that's a phrase that makes me sad.
Welcome to Idiocracy: The Prequel
@@MagneticDonut Idocracy: The Presequel
My guess is that the film director wasn't so good or he was trying some new things.
@@Dilligff sad noises
@@ALFABETAS999 It's more in the way of the original Blade Runner: The world wasn't ready for it, yet.
Yet another way in which Blade Runner 2049 is a perfect sequel.
Alas, the story of a man who loses his waifu by attempting to find the meaning of his life.
Thats really deep man
Now everything makes sense
*laifu
ah yes, waifu or laifu the age old question
within feels interlinked
A real shame this movie didn't do well financially. I loved it- everybody who's trying to do a sequel / reboot of a beloved movie or series should study this film as a "how to" guide
What?!! They should study this so they don't fuck up as well as he did. What a turd of a movie
The same things happened with a friend I took to see Dune. If they don’t know the history and what’s going on they just don’t care to take the time to digest it all unless it just somehow intrigues them.
I like exactly the things that those people consider "flaws". Drawn-out artistic shots are amazing for world-building. If you watch Bladerunner just for the story, without appreciating the world behind it you're missing half the point.
Cells.
This is the most pretentious comment here.
@@justmeeagainn What do you mean?
I'd go to a gallery if I wanted to spend 20 minutes examining pictures. This is a film and them stopping so often because they think their art style is the greatest only ruined the pace. Add to that the dull characters and the story that really doesn't go anywhere and feels more like a setup for a sequel makes this movie a torture to watch.
100% agree. It's a shame that this movie didn't do well, but I think it's a flawless masterpiece, in some ways, precisely WHY it didn't do well.
It's already a modern classic tho. Many people will appreciate this film more after many years to come.
Edit: thank you for the 1k likes!
yep! love this movie.
Like the original
It's becoming a sci fi version of the Thing
@@wtfbros5110 how? What’s the connection? And the thing is sci-fi
@@Gadget-Walkmen box office flop, but becomes highly regarded over time
havent even watched it sadly, but the visuals are entrancing. really well done to use color palletes and all the ads overwhelming the space
I have no problem in admitting that the issues highlighted in this film are why it was a massive disappointment to me upon release. It's slow, turgid, unsatisfying and for long stretches pointless. For a slow film to work, it has to feel rich, but Blade Runner 2049 feels cold and empty.
I remember watching this film 6 times, each time with a different group of people just to spread the word of how great this movie was.
I dont know you, but you are my friend xD
bro same
And still, re-watching it over and over again wouldn't work for me. It felt so empty, no emotion, despite the stunning visual.
@@donachille3351 it’s not empty just simply unconventional but
Same, I first watch it alone during a lunch break in college then with friends then with my family.
It's a film made for a particular kind of movie-goer. That is, fans of the original who like a good mystery and an immersive atmosphere.
Yeah immersion was the big one for me. The visuals were unbelievable and the story was so easy to get lost in because of how fluid it was.
Marvel has ruin the movie industry. People are expecting jokes and rainbow colors on every movie made. Marvel movies are simple and basically the same crap over and over
@@retlawx10 on the other hand, we have this movie, where we met Deckare's daughter in the middle of the movie, and just one time, without even knowing about it, until nearly the end
and eventually, Deckard met his daughter. and that's it. good for him i guess...
Nah, I loved this movie without even knowing there was an original
@@davidwilson8432 in the other hand marvel mentioned thanos once or twice after 20 movies and all of the sudden there he is looking for those pebbles and taking all over the universe
I’ve watched it 10 times at least and never even noticed it was longer than a usual film. I’m now glad it is though as I absolutely love the film, and I’m so glad it wasn’t chopped down.
Blade Runner 2049 a very memorable movie, the theme, directory, shots, and movies with this kind of melancholic vibes is impossible to find. I'm always searching for movies similar to this theme like the deleted concept of Zack Snyder's Knightmare but I can't find any, many find this movie as boring or lack of exciting scenes but for me it is masterpiece, I keep searching this movie on everyday basis becs it reminds me of how I overcome my past struggles esp during the pandemic, this movie is what I watched when I am at my lowest and matched my old melancholic days that's why it will always be special❤