@@the_penetratorfor jf17? They still use rd93 but my thinking is they are waiting for china to finish their ws19 for j35 and would adopt the same engine for j35.
Wrong, Tejas is small aircraft. AL-31 series would be difficult to fit in, as you would need to completely redesign its fuselage. The engine that might be suitable for Tejas with Minor modifications is RD-93, the same engine that JF-17 Thunder uses.
Very good move by Modi Govt. Even if India gets these russian engines with tech transfers, it will be very good for India. Firstly it will reduce on defence on single nation 2nd we must get tech wherever we can get. 3rd India must look beyond 5 eyes. Be it France or Russia.
Americants are screwing with us , French won’t give tech so we r left with Russian option only , even thou their engines r gen old but , We should design mk2, amca with available Russian engines in mind
Suna hay GIDS proudly unveils the Eghraaq ultra-light torpedo for drones, redefining submarine warfare with cutting-edge innovation. But no worries-India can always announce its "plans" for an underwater drone system with fanfare at airshows and defense expos. Because who needs actual capability when you can survive on hype, prototypes, and PowerPoint presentations?.
@@muhammadishaq561 India already Developed and Deployed its Advance Light weight Torpedo "Sheyna" from 1990s and Already in service with indian navy... It is exported To Myanmar navy also... It is already successfully as SMART anti Submarine missiles with a range of 600 km... Some News channels also reported that SMART is tested above 1,300 km range along with India's Hypersonic missile test....
@@muhammadishaq561 India also Developed Heavy weight torpedo VARUNASTRA and Currently in service with it's Warships as Main Anti Submarine Role... Two Varints of that Torpedo Named Shakti and Takshak currently under Trails Meanwhile some nations only can Unveil their weapons but can't came to reality
@AbinashMalana There's a massive difference between a heavyweight torpedo and an ultra-lightweight one, especially when the latter is UCAV-launched, turning a drone into an anti-submarine powerhouse. Meanwhile, India's torpedoes seem to have perfected the art of perpetual trials-decades of "testing" with no end in sight, just like most of their other so-called advanced weapon systems.
@@muhammadishaq561 There is huge difference Between Unveil and In service... Indian torpedoes are in service with Navy while Pakistan Torpedos are in Service with UCAV only in Papers. 😭😭😭
New engine on tejas then validation trials for 5 years. Omg this is worse then the soap operas on TV. Tejas mark 1a let's stick to the ge 404 only. Tejas mark 2 already delayed because we cannot get a deal for ge 414 on time. 😅
@hiteshadhikari i completey agree . But replacing the engine for mark 1a or 2 as a matter of fact will practically kill the programme. Redesigning the air frame.to fit a new engine is expensive and funding is an issue in India. It's worrying if we ever have to change the engine
@@shivamjaggi6004 the only alternative to 404 is the kaveri upg which itself might require some changes to frame when it happens but will be ok because it would be our own and the minor changes can be justified for that purpose
Two fifth generation engine india produced in koraput orriswa3. One😢rd33 mks 115kn and al51 mki 180kn. MKI means export version of India. Hal chief visit Russia and see 4 prototype engine of rd33 mki and al51mki engine each. @ utuber. Many😮people not know India already produced Indian 3 engine al31fp rd33mk and al55 trainer aircraft engine in koraput.
Realisation has dawned on HAL albeit a little late in the day. A RD33 led option shud have been the first option to be considered as Mig 29s of the UPG and K variants form a significant part of the IAF fleet and they r also manufactured in India. The misguided thought of relying on USA inspite of sanctions after Smiling Buddha and a threatening posture during '71 and '65 did not stop them from going to thw same country.
Two ✌parallel Tejas programs, one with an American 🇺🇸 engine, the other with a Russian engine. Eventually, India needs 500+ planes of the Tejas variants.
Seems mk1 will be hugely delayed as this discussion with Russia regarding engines shows that American GE414 is in danger and any new Russian engine will take minimum 5-6 years to be matured. Now calculate the next date for mk1 delivery
Possibilities are a lot but but we have a engine which is called kaveri what india need for this engine metallurgy, weight reduction and reliability The need of the hour is self reliance not shelf buying😢
Integrating the RD93 MA engine with the Tejas isn’t a feasible option, primarily because the JF-17 Block-III, its direct competitor, is already flying with the same engine. The very adversary that Tejas is meant to face knows the RD93 MA inside and out-its strengths, its weaknesses, and, most importantly, how to exploit them. But then again, does feasibility even matter when it comes to India’s defense projects? Why not go ahead and spend a few more decades debating engine options while the adversaries continue fielding proven fifth-generation stealth fighters? After all, India has already perfected the art of announcing grand "indigenous" solutions while secretly relying on imports to fill the gaps. Perhaps Tejas can take on the JF-17 and J-35 with a combination of wishful thinking, patriotic slogans, and ceremonial flyovers. Because who needs a well-thought-out, reliable engine when you can simply make do with press releases and endless testing phases? Surely, those are the real weapons India is counting on in a two-front-or maybe three-front-war.
Fantastic news for India’s *world-beating* defence ambitions: 1. The *legendary* Astra MK3 has hit a speed bump, aka indefinite delay. 2. The European consortium has declined Meteor missiles for the Tejas and Su-30MKI. 3. DRDO’s *game-changing* AIP system for INS Kalvari is set to miss the 2025 deadline-because who doesn’t love a good delay to keep things interesting? 4. The long awaited and much hyped Brahmos 2 project cancelled India sure knows how to set lofty goals… and then expertly dodge them!
@@muhammadishaq561 😂😂😂 First track the Brahmos First than talk about than think about Brahmos 2... Did you forgot that india already tested its Scramjet engine in 2019 as HSTDV....😝😌 Project Vishnu already in pipeline.... These delays and Cancellations are just Speculations.. No such reports published by any Verified Sources
No HAL chief visit to Russia is fof al 31 fp engine which was showcased in zhuai air show as this engine is an upgrade of al 31 with same dimensions and upgraded materials
I am calling this analysis bs... no way India is India going for another Russian aircraft. Maybe more Su30MKI's makes sense or even Super Sukhois. But does India need a foreign 5th Gen aircraft?
aur apne engine ka kya hoga aur current mai kya kaam chal reha hai ?? iske uper to video bana lo bhai ab kya dusre countries mai dependent rahenge kya engine ke liye ??
bhai dual pailon tejas pe nai lag sakta because its a delta wing jet and dual painon se drag bhot zada ho jata ha jf17 ke paas back flaps han iss lea drag kuch kam ho jata ha tejas asa nai kir sakta
@@AwaisAli-rd2qp bahi am raad ka gyan yaha mt de ye sab cope hai....tune aerospace engineering ki hai?.....tu wahi hai jo bol raha tha ki scramjet ke bina HGV nahi bann sakta, ko explanation hai iss cheez ka? mei solid booster se glide karu ya scramjet se kam toh usne wahi karna hai
Our Tejas airframe design should have been based around AL-31FP engine....since we are assembling it for so long and tweaking it according to ourselves...Indian procurements have always been a missed chance.
NPO Saturn CEO: Lemme guess, tiny small, engine testbed.. HAL CMD: I want AL 41s core along with metallurgical knowledge of compressor blade, ask the price.. {Frown Saturn CEO face} ..but make it cheap & also make sure to put a bid when we issued the tendor & be the L1 bidder NPO Saturn CEO: We serve screwdrivergiri here sir 😑
Imagine if we sign a deal for Al 31FN for Su 30 mki and secretly procure 2-3 Squadrons of Su 57 after scraping MRFA and keep it secret until procurement process is completed and they give their sudden appearance in Republic day parade after 4 years in an attack formation . Common its the same Air force that procured Mirage 2000 after F 16 came with limited ground attack capability and than we later crossed sanctioned squadron for the first time during insane build up .
@@SS-xu4gh if something is already hidden than you and me are not even supposed to know about it being hidden . New Radars , a-a & s-s missiles , nuclear subs , etc... are all secretive and operates in shadow . It was our country that kept Mig-25 R Garuda a secret being operational from 1981 to 2006 that only 40 pilots , few senior officials and maintenance team knew about .
Russian technology expose ho chuki hai, buhot sare Mig29, Su 30 aur SU 35s shot down hue hain russia ukraine war me. Abhi Russian equipment ki demand lowest hai.
I am sure gouvt is matured enough not to go for SU57 , even after ukerain passion stops, sanctions will remain, besides even Russia is not able to operationalise these aircraft. Long term goal of reducing dependency on Russia will continue
Pehle, JF17 ko deke deke BVR Tejas me laga diya. Phir, JF17 ke jesey RWR, ECM, or Data Link Tejas me thoss diya. JF17 jesey AESA bhee laga diya. Abb tu JF17 ka engine bhi layne jareho! Just buy the damn JF17 and get over with it! Pakistan will even paint it for you.
But jf 17 blunder has everything made in china , while india has everything made in india with 65% jet engine 😊 Pakistani are only allowed to do paint , oil and screw the planes by chinese masters 😂
Agar JF 17 karidna ( Original name FC -1 Xiaolong 😂 ) padega tho China se bath karenge, kyu ki China hi OEM hai 😂 Pakistan ka aukat sirf assemble karne ka hi hai, Oh bhi China ke madad PE. Apni abbu China se bolo JF 17 ka air frame me cracks kyu ah Rahi hai ?? 40% of the JF 17 are grounded. Myanmar is facing same problem with JF 17 which gave them
@timetraveller5065 Before sharing you opinions on Pakistan's paternity, you should learn to read first. I didn't suggest you should buy the JF17 from Pakistan. Buy it from China. It will be built in Pakistan, but no worries, we will stick a Made in China sticker on it. Heck we can even put a Made in India sticker on it, but then we can not offer any warranty on the workmanship.
@@timetraveller5065chootya ho ya bhool gaye, is waqt jis video pe ye comment ho raha usme Tejas ki engine procurement ki baat ho rahi. Iska matlb tum log Russia, USA se bheeg mang k engine loge aur phir India me frame me assemble karke kahoge indigenous hai😂😂😂
I don’t think India will buy SU-57 planes from Russia given the ongoing Russia Ukraine war. Also buying engines for Tejas will further delay the much delayed Tejas program. Opting for a new engine for Su 30 or giving additional SU 30 order should be considered given the service life of current engines & the falling Airforce squadron strength..
Suna hay: Nepal rejects the Indian Army Chief's request-no more Gorkhas for the Indian Army. Looks like the days of "bravery on rent" are officially over. India, which proudly boasts of its "mighty" military, now faces the reality of losing one of its most iconic assets. Perhaps it’s time to find another way to fill the ranks with dalits, christian Sikh or Muslims or maybe just double down on slogans and ceremonies. 🤔😊😂🤣
Contract hai abdul Mia Beta Nepal is a land lock country other than india It may lure to China for some time but that's not a viable option India k bina nepal chal nahi sakta And 11 GRRC lucknow was onelce my home for more than 22 years , so believe me when I say that whatever you are saying is 100 bullshit
American engine was a stupid decision from the start 😂 Learning from history is out of syllabus of IFS policy makers since 1947 😂 all the knowledge is only for passing UPSC exam, after that jaha commission jayada mila vahi kharid lo 😂 Jab tak thapar nahi parta dusre countries se, tab tak na IFS kuch sahi step leta hai na hi Indian military
Al 31FN was always needed glad we got it , and whether we buy Su 57 or not but we should consider at least 2-4 squadrons of Su 35 with Virupaksha Radar to counter depleting squadron strength . This option is viable as Nasik line can be utilized by the time MRFA is executed and new assembly line is established for Rafales .
tejas ke liye russian, french aur ya fir eurofighter typhoon fighter jet ka engine bhi lagayea ja sakta hai par modi aisa hone nahin dega keyonki modi ko tou siraf US ke hi talve chatne hain fir beshaq GE-404 jet engine ke liye 25 saal ka aur intezar hi keyon na karna parhe.😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
The JF-17 is already flying successfully with three different types of engines: 1. RD93 (Russian) 2. RD93 MA (Russian) 3. WS13 (Chinese) Meanwhile, Tejas is still stuck with debates over replacing its underpowered engine-a decision that could take years to even finalize. Love the Indian planners for their unmatched ability to overcomplicate the simplest of decisions and delay progress indefinitely. The JF-17, despite being labeled "inferior," by Indians, has proven its mettle with rapid development, operational deployment, and a growing list of export customers. In contrast, Tejas, which has been under development for nearly four decades, is still struggling to equip its own air force in meaningful numbers. 😊😂😂
If hal is exploring the license production of upgraded /uprated latest variant of al-31 engines for super sukhoi upgrade then it would be from super sukhoi to super-duper sukhoi.
Making the decision to replace the engine of the Tejas would send the project spiraling back to the prototype stage, potentially adding 4-5 years for integration, testing, certification, and reliability checks. Even deciding to make such a move could take 2-3 years, given the glacial pace of decision-making. Can India afford such delays when the Indian Air Force is already facing the twin crises of dwindling numbers and aging jets? The IAF is at its lowest fighter strength in history, and this includes jets that should have been retired over a decade ago, along with others that barely leave their workshops. Yet, somehow, India still speaks of fighting a two-or even three-front war. With what? Vintage aircraft from the Cold War era? Meanwhile, China’s fifth-generation stealth fighters like the J-20 and J-35 are not just operational but actively evolving. Pakistan, too, is set to acquire the J-35 next year. Against this backdrop, India's "great hope" remains the Tejas-an aircraft that still struggles to meet basic frontline requirements decades after its inception. But why worry? India seems to have mastered the art of living in denial. After all, grand declarations and airshows can always replace real capabilities. Maybe those 50-60-year-old jets can be polished up to match China’s stealth fighters-because nothing screams "superpower" like relying on museum pieces in an era of cutting-edge warfare.
@@muhammadishaq561 It's never gonna happen... India will never replace a 4,000 hours life span Engine with a 2,000 hours Smokey flavour Engine.... Vintage Aircraft?? Are you mean the 250+ Mirage 3, Murage 5 and J 7s or you mean the 50+ years old F 16s... Can't even afford a Twin Engine or a Modern European fighter.... Just have Chinese single Engine fighters as their Backbone... Your whole 4th generation fighter fleet is lesser than India's Su 30MKI fleet.... There is no comparison between a Single Engine and Twin Engine fighter....
@@muhammadishaq561 Two or Three front war... Forgot about the Western front they are more focused on IMF loans and IMRAN KHAN...🥴🥴🥴 They already achieved A Failed nation title for 25th time....
Pakistani army personnel daily saheed ho rahe hai tum pehele apna deakho na ....i wonder why paistani military is hated by pakistanis on all of the publlic forums I have been too.
@@AbinashMalana Twin-engine fighter jets are neither invincible nor essential, especially when the adversary is just next door. They drain budgets, cost more to maintain and fly, and are easier to detect and target due to their size and RCS. This is precisely why the IAF is perpetually short of funds, despite receiving a significant share of the defense budget. But why focus on practical, cost-effective solutions when the goal is chest thumping, bragging and to impress at airshows, rather than field combat-ready jets? After all, who needs logic when you can dream of twin-engine wonders while relying on a fleet of aging, barely operational aircraft?
Personally mujhe lagta hai ki iaf ko koi bhi 5th generation fighter jet nhi lena chahiye or Pakistan ko jitni jldi ho ske china se 5th generation jet acquire Krna chahiye. Phir indian defence companies par bhi pressure aayga or may be war level pe amca ko production me le jaye
Hmmmmm. Let's see. A RD93 powered single engine 4th plus gen fighter. I think I saw that before. In 1995. Again in 2007 when it entered PAF. You know the one, kya ta naam, zahen se nikal giya.....
@anubratadas4911 Russia offered the Felon back in 2010, but 15 years later still nothing. We will wait at least until 2040 before worrying about Su57 being produced in India. Oh yeah, while we are talking about it, how is the Rafale production line in Bangalore doing? How many Rafale did India produce? What? NONE,! I am shocked!
@@ImranKhan-ty6mx Su-57 has already entered mass production in Russia Russia has confirmed that and Trump will lift some sanctions against Russia. Su-57 wasn't fully developed in 2010. I suggest you stop reading propaganda of your liar media and government.
Su 57 ki price kitni hai, 60 to 70 millions dollar hogi... And MRFA ke jets ki... 90 to 100 or more than, India ko....su57 precure kr lene chaiye.... Much better than, 4.5 gen... Jets
Aik kam karo engines ka itna masla hai to apnay mig 29 ground kerdo or un k engine teja main fit ker k kaam chala lo. Itni tension say phati kun hui hai?
So our Tejas and PAF/PLAAF J-10 will ultimately end up running on the same engine. Brilliant!
J10 already has a Chinese domestic engine
J 10 has Chinese engines now
PAF still uses Klimov RD-33? Or have they switched to Chinese engines?
@@the_penetratorfor jf17? They still use rd93 but my thinking is they are waiting for china to finish their ws19 for j35 and would adopt the same engine for j35.
Wrong, Tejas is small aircraft. AL-31 series would be difficult to fit in, as you would need to completely redesign its fuselage. The engine that might be suitable for Tejas with Minor modifications is RD-93, the same engine that JF-17 Thunder uses.
An wise decision by HAL in going for alternative Engine and long run India can go for co development cutting down on American engine
Very good move by Modi Govt. Even if India gets these russian engines with tech transfers, it will be very good for India.
Firstly it will reduce on defence on single nation
2nd we must get tech wherever we can get.
3rd India must look beyond 5 eyes. Be it France or Russia.
Hume usa engine k sath sath Russian engine k sath tejas ko bana ne ko dekhana chahiye . Usa ko bhi pressure ayega
Americants are screwing with us , French won’t give tech so we r left with Russian option only , even thou their engines r gen old but , We should design mk2, amca with available Russian engines in mind
We are crying for our neighbours.... 😢😢😢...
Not... 😂 😂 😂
Ye hoga to wo-hojaega, wo hoga to ye-hojaega. Tu indian defence minister banja bhai! 🤣🤣🤣☕️
Woh ban jaata toh ab tak Pakistan ki chaddi bik gayi hoti 😂😂
Suna hay
GIDS proudly unveils the Eghraaq ultra-light torpedo for drones, redefining submarine warfare with cutting-edge innovation.
But no worries-India can always announce its "plans" for an underwater drone system with fanfare at airshows and defense expos. Because who needs actual capability when you can survive on hype, prototypes, and PowerPoint presentations?.
@@muhammadishaq561 India already Developed and Deployed its Advance Light weight Torpedo "Sheyna" from 1990s and Already in service with indian navy...
It is exported To Myanmar navy also...
It is already successfully as SMART anti Submarine missiles with a range of 600 km...
Some News channels also reported that SMART is tested above 1,300 km range along with India's Hypersonic missile test....
@@muhammadishaq561 Meanwhile Pakistan only can Unveil proudly weapons...
That never came to reality....
@@muhammadishaq561 India also Developed Heavy weight torpedo VARUNASTRA and Currently in service with it's Warships as Main Anti Submarine Role...
Two Varints of that Torpedo Named Shakti and Takshak currently under Trails
Meanwhile some nations only can Unveil their weapons but can't came to reality
@AbinashMalana There's a massive difference between a heavyweight torpedo and an ultra-lightweight one, especially when the latter is UCAV-launched, turning a drone into an anti-submarine powerhouse. Meanwhile, India's torpedoes seem to have perfected the art of perpetual trials-decades of "testing" with no end in sight, just like most of their other so-called advanced weapon systems.
@@muhammadishaq561 There is huge difference Between Unveil and In service...
Indian torpedoes are in service with Navy while Pakistan Torpedos are in Service with UCAV only in Papers. 😭😭😭
New engine on tejas then validation trials for 5 years. Omg this is worse then the soap operas on TV. Tejas mark 1a let's stick to the ge 404 only. Tejas mark 2 already delayed because we cannot get a deal for ge 414 on time. 😅
This is not happening, f404 will come but this is just creating an option and i tbh dont see this will happen
@hiteshadhikari i completey agree . But replacing the engine for mark 1a or 2 as a matter of fact will practically kill the programme. Redesigning the air frame.to fit a new engine is expensive and funding is an issue in India. It's worrying if we ever have to change the engine
That's not going to happen. Discuss on Engines for Sukhoi not tejas
Congratulations to fekendra modi for boot leaking of America for last 10 years.
@@shivamjaggi6004 the only alternative to 404 is the kaveri upg which itself might require some changes to frame when it happens but will be ok because it would be our own and the minor changes can be justified for that purpose
It is prolly for engines for the Super Sukhoi program. I dont think HAL is dumb enough to go for Tejas recertification at this point🤔
Two fifth generation engine india produced in koraput orriswa3. One😢rd33 mks 115kn and al51 mki 180kn. MKI means export version of India. Hal chief visit Russia and see 4 prototype engine of rd33 mki and al51mki engine each. @ utuber. Many😮people not know India already produced Indian 3 engine al31fp rd33mk and al55 trainer aircraft engine in koraput.
Sukhoi is the backbone of Indian Air Force. Need to strengthen the fleet and increase indigenousitation. .
I m from Pakistan 🇵🇰and I like su 57
So buy it 🤭🤭🫣🫣🫣
Ekdam sahi.
Realisation has dawned on HAL albeit a little late in the day. A RD33 led option shud have been the first option to be considered as Mig 29s of the UPG and K variants form a significant part of the IAF fleet and they r also manufactured in India.
The misguided thought of relying on USA inspite of sanctions after Smiling Buddha and a threatening posture during '71 and '65 did not stop them from going to thw same country.
Is there any scope of joint R and D for AMCA?
No
No
Jo kuch bhi hai bas Menu par hi hai.
Par Table par kuch nhi aa raha sahi samay par.. Customer ko sabar aur intezaar hi karna pad raha hai.
Two ✌parallel Tejas programs, one with an American 🇺🇸 engine, the other with a Russian engine. Eventually, India needs 500+ planes of the Tejas variants.
Good initiative
Seems mk1 will be hugely delayed as this discussion with Russia regarding engines shows that American GE414 is in danger and any new Russian engine will take minimum 5-6 years to be matured.
Now calculate the next date for mk1 delivery
Possibilities are a lot but but we have a engine which is called kaveri what india need for this engine metallurgy, weight reduction and reliability
The need of the hour is self reliance not shelf buying😢
Whats the thrust on RD33 new 5th gen variant?
Integrating the RD93 MA engine with the Tejas isn’t a feasible option, primarily because the JF-17 Block-III, its direct competitor, is already flying with the same engine. The very adversary that Tejas is meant to face knows the RD93 MA inside and out-its strengths, its weaknesses, and, most importantly, how to exploit them.
But then again, does feasibility even matter when it comes to India’s defense projects? Why not go ahead and spend a few more decades debating engine options while the adversaries continue fielding proven fifth-generation stealth fighters? After all, India has already perfected the art of announcing grand "indigenous" solutions while secretly relying on imports to fill the gaps.
Perhaps Tejas can take on the JF-17 and J-35 with a combination of wishful thinking, patriotic slogans, and ceremonial flyovers. Because who needs a well-thought-out, reliable engine when you can simply make do with press releases and endless testing phases? Surely, those are the real weapons India is counting on in a two-front-or maybe three-front-war.
@@muhammadishaq561 you are not Underground??
Fantastic news for India’s *world-beating* defence ambitions:
1. The *legendary* Astra MK3 has hit a speed bump, aka indefinite delay.
2. The European consortium has declined Meteor missiles for the Tejas and Su-30MKI.
3. DRDO’s *game-changing* AIP system for INS Kalvari is set to miss the 2025 deadline-because who doesn’t love a good delay to keep things interesting?
4. The long awaited and much hyped Brahmos 2 project cancelled
India sure knows how to set lofty goals… and then expertly dodge them!
@@muhammadishaq561 😂😂😂
First track the Brahmos First than talk about than think about Brahmos 2...
Did you forgot that india already tested its Scramjet engine in 2019 as HSTDV....😝😌
Project Vishnu already in pipeline....
These delays and Cancellations are just Speculations..
No such reports published by any Verified Sources
@@muhammadishaq561 Brahmos 2 on Hold not cancelled....
That's why education is important
i hope we don't remain dependent on west for jet engines for our future fighters
You need a educated pm for these who understands national security needs are important than attending election rallies.
As citizens,
we ought to make
CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.
For 35+ years,
SCAM - ' grace ' govt.
did not allot
FUNDS for the DIFEANCE.
Bhai what happens with replaced engines..how are they used ??
No HAL chief visit to Russia is fof al 31 fp engine which was showcased in zhuai air show as this engine is an upgrade of al 31 with same dimensions and upgraded materials
Mujhe lagta hai ki yeh kaveri engine ke afterburner par baat ho sakti hai or su57 ka india mein manufacturing ko lekar
What about offer of 72 su30 by HAL ,
I am calling this analysis bs... no way India is India going for another Russian aircraft. Maybe more Su30MKI's makes sense or even Super Sukhois. But does India need a foreign 5th Gen aircraft?
What happened to SAFRAN engine?
Which safran engine... 😂 😂 😂
India should covertly try modifying the ALF31, by changing or hybridying the core or further upgrade the same.
I think its more about AL31FN version for tejas mk2 and amca, their is another possibility for more Su-30 orders
aur apne engine ka kya hoga aur current mai kya kaam chal reha hai ?? iske uper to video bana lo bhai ab kya dusre countries mai dependent rahenge kya engine ke liye ??
HAL chief visit is to jointly devdlop jeg engine between AL 31 n AL41
AL41 is too big n AL31 is under powered n zo his visit is mainly on Jet Engines
Bhai dual rack pailon ka development kitna dur gaya? Tejas desperately need dual rack pilon
True bhai. Dual rack pylons will allow Tejas to carry 6 A2A missiles. Along with jammer and fuel tanks.
bhai dual pailon tejas pe nai lag sakta because its a delta wing jet and dual painon se drag bhot zada ho jata ha jf17 ke paas back flaps han iss lea drag kuch kam ho jata ha tejas asa nai kir sakta
@@AwaisAli-rd2qp bahi am raad ka gyan yaha mt de ye sab cope hai....tune aerospace engineering ki hai?.....tu wahi hai jo bol raha tha ki scramjet ke bina HGV nahi bann sakta, ko explanation hai iss cheez ka? mei solid booster se glide karu ya scramjet se kam toh usne wahi karna hai
Our Tejas airframe design should have been based around AL-31FP engine....since we are assembling it for so long and tweaking it according to ourselves...Indian procurements have always been a missed chance.
NPO Saturn CEO: Lemme guess, tiny small, engine testbed..
HAL CMD: I want AL 41s core along with metallurgical knowledge of compressor blade, ask the price..
{Frown Saturn CEO face}
..but make it cheap & also make sure to put a bid when we issued the tendor & be the L1 bidder
NPO Saturn CEO: We serve screwdrivergiri here sir 😑
Imagine if we sign a deal for Al 31FN for Su 30 mki and secretly procure 2-3 Squadrons of Su 57 after scraping MRFA and keep it secret until procurement process is completed and they give their sudden appearance in Republic day parade after 4 years in an attack formation . Common its the same Air force that procured Mirage 2000 after F 16 came with limited ground attack capability and than we later crossed sanctioned squadron for the first time during insane build up .
We are a country which never keep anything hidden.
Bas hame hamesha batte kar is a uchi uchi
@@SS-xu4gh if something is already hidden than you and me are not even supposed to know about it being hidden . New Radars , a-a & s-s missiles , nuclear subs , etc... are all secretive and operates in shadow .
It was our country that kept Mig-25 R Garuda a secret being operational from 1981 to 2006 that only 40 pilots , few senior officials and maintenance team knew about .
K5 ka True range kya hoga ?
A. 5000 Km
C.
C
c...all day every day
Tejas mark1a ka order 2040 tak bhi pura nahi ho payega agar asa hi haal raha toh
🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Tejas too is going the Maraut way.
Are Chinese Flankers better than Indian flankers?
Bhai russian engines will be the best option to get our projects going...we can improve them according to ourselves...Modiji should stop licking USA
Maine to shuru se hi bola, Russian engine le lo. India to Russian equipment aise ignore kar raha hai jaise Russian weapons ekdum hi kharab hai.
Russian technology expose ho chuki hai, buhot sare Mig29, Su 30 aur SU 35s shot down hue hain russia ukraine war me. Abhi Russian equipment ki demand lowest hai.
I am sure gouvt is matured enough not to go for SU57 , even after ukerain passion stops, sanctions will remain, besides even Russia is not able to operationalise these aircraft. Long term goal of reducing dependency on Russia will continue
russian engine in tejas mk1 and su57 order is the need of an hour
France ne offer kiye the uska kya hua?
*Absolutely Essential to become self reliance in Defense and Aerospace Sector*
What about k 5 test😢😢
But but but saarr... Russian engines are faulty... 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
New engine for Super Sukhoi??
Agar tejas mk1 ke liye engine na de pae America to mk2 ke liye 414 ki deal karni nahi chahiye
0 expectations from joker Airforce🙄
Pehle, JF17 ko deke deke BVR Tejas me laga diya.
Phir, JF17 ke jesey RWR, ECM, or Data Link Tejas me thoss diya.
JF17 jesey AESA bhee laga diya.
Abb tu JF17 ka engine bhi layne jareho!
Just buy the damn JF17 and get over with it!
Pakistan will even paint it for you.
But jf 17 blunder has everything made in china , while india has everything made in india with 65% jet engine 😊
Pakistani are only allowed to do paint , oil and screw the planes by chinese masters 😂
That's the only thing Pakistan can do. Paint.
Agar JF 17 karidna ( Original name FC -1 Xiaolong 😂 )
padega tho China se bath karenge, kyu ki China hi OEM hai 😂
Pakistan ka aukat sirf assemble karne ka hi hai, Oh bhi China ke madad PE.
Apni abbu China se bolo JF 17 ka air frame me cracks kyu ah Rahi hai ??
40% of the JF 17 are grounded.
Myanmar is facing same problem with JF 17 which gave them
@timetraveller5065 Before sharing you opinions on Pakistan's paternity, you should learn to read first. I didn't suggest you should buy the JF17 from Pakistan. Buy it from China. It will be built in Pakistan, but no worries, we will stick a Made in China sticker on it.
Heck we can even put a Made in India sticker on it, but then we can not offer any warranty on the workmanship.
@@timetraveller5065chootya ho ya bhool gaye, is waqt jis video pe ye comment ho raha usme Tejas ki engine procurement ki baat ho rahi. Iska matlb tum log Russia, USA se bheeg mang k engine loge aur phir India me frame me assemble karke kahoge indigenous hai😂😂😂
License fees should be kept out of the equipment
Al 31 ka new engine based pe one engine fighter should be made.
I don’t think India will buy SU-57 planes from Russia given the ongoing Russia Ukraine war. Also buying engines for Tejas will further delay the much delayed Tejas program. Opting for a new engine for Su 30 or giving additional SU 30 order should be considered given the service life of current engines & the falling Airforce squadron strength..
No su57. Because trump is here and India can't afford CAATSA right now.
So LCA will have a Russian engine?, Ameeica as usual cheated us 😂
We will get 5th gen fighter after
Pakistan 😶due to panotee
Hello bro.. very negative replies on my yesterday comment
Suna hay:
Nepal rejects the Indian Army Chief's request-no more Gorkhas for the Indian Army. Looks like the days of "bravery on rent" are officially over.
India, which proudly boasts of its "mighty" military, now faces the reality of losing one of its most iconic assets. Perhaps it’s time to find another way to fill the ranks with dalits, christian Sikh or Muslims or maybe just double down on slogans and ceremonies.
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Contract hai abdul Mia
Beta
Nepal is a land lock country other than india
It may lure to China for some time but that's not a viable option
India k bina nepal chal nahi sakta
And 11 GRRC lucknow was onelce my home for more than 22 years ,
so believe me when I say that whatever you are saying is 100 bullshit
American engine was a stupid decision from the start 😂
Learning from history is out of syllabus of IFS policy makers since 1947 😂 all the knowledge is only for passing UPSC exam, after that jaha commission jayada mila vahi kharid lo 😂
Jab tak thapar nahi parta dusre countries se, tab tak na IFS kuch sahi step leta hai na hi Indian military
Kyun GE ne aukat dikha di?
Aukat abhi dikhaya to nhi hai lekin supply chain issue bol kr dikhane ka try kr raha hai
Al 31FN was always needed glad we got it , and whether we buy Su 57 or not but we should consider at least 2-4 squadrons of Su 35 with Virupaksha Radar to counter depleting squadron strength . This option is viable as Nasik line can be utilized by the time MRFA is executed and new assembly line is established for Rafales .
are bhai kal s400 pe missile strike hui russia mai uspe bolo kuch
Ukraine mea patriot missile defence system pe bhi strike hua hai.
tejas ke liye russian, french aur ya fir eurofighter typhoon fighter jet ka engine bhi lagayea ja sakta hai par modi aisa hone nahin dega keyonki modi ko tou siraf US ke hi talve chatne hain fir beshaq GE-404 jet engine ke liye 25 saal ka aur intezar hi keyon na karna parhe.😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
Plan B
The JF-17 is already flying successfully with three different types of engines:
1. RD93 (Russian)
2. RD93 MA (Russian)
3. WS13 (Chinese)
Meanwhile, Tejas is still stuck with debates over replacing its underpowered engine-a decision that could take years to even finalize. Love the Indian planners for their unmatched ability to overcomplicate the simplest of decisions and delay progress indefinitely.
The JF-17, despite being labeled "inferior," by Indians, has proven its mettle with rapid development, operational deployment, and a growing list of export customers. In contrast, Tejas, which has been under development for nearly four decades, is still struggling to equip its own air force in meaningful numbers.
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Rd engine yaha hal hi banata hai😅😅😅. Lelo
In future Pakistan with its average economy will disappear in thin air
@@vimalkumar3815NO, only assembles spares from Russia, India dosent make any Engines.
@@muhammadishaq561 we never went ahead with that terrible engine and Pakistan has no option cuz yr budget is like 10 billion 🤣
Bruuh, Chill abhi Tejas mk 1a with 404 ko scrap nhi krre voh, toh atte rhenge jbb bhi ayenge. bss, abse jitne future projects h unko 2-3 Alternative engines ke saath bhi test krenge.
Bhai aik adh K4 hmari napak foj py b maro.help india
Engine ka mangan bechty raho bs.😂😂
If hal is exploring the license production of upgraded /uprated latest variant of al-31 engines for super sukhoi upgrade then it would be from super sukhoi to super-duper sukhoi.
Engine na dena, america ko bhari padhna chahiye. We should stop buying american platforms. Kab tab pagal banege hum.
Making the decision to replace the engine of the Tejas would send the project spiraling back to the prototype stage, potentially adding 4-5 years for integration, testing, certification, and reliability checks. Even deciding to make such a move could take 2-3 years, given the glacial pace of decision-making. Can India afford such delays when the Indian Air Force is already facing the twin crises of dwindling numbers and aging jets?
The IAF is at its lowest fighter strength in history, and this includes jets that should have been retired over a decade ago, along with others that barely leave their workshops. Yet, somehow, India still speaks of fighting a two-or even three-front war. With what? Vintage aircraft from the Cold War era?
Meanwhile, China’s fifth-generation stealth fighters like the J-20 and J-35 are not just operational but actively evolving. Pakistan, too, is set to acquire the J-35 next year. Against this backdrop, India's "great hope" remains the Tejas-an aircraft that still struggles to meet basic frontline requirements decades after its inception.
But why worry? India seems to have mastered the art of living in denial. After all, grand declarations and airshows can always replace real capabilities. Maybe those 50-60-year-old jets can be polished up to match China’s stealth fighters-because nothing screams "superpower" like relying on museum pieces in an era of cutting-edge warfare.
@@muhammadishaq561 It's never gonna happen...
India will never replace a 4,000 hours life span Engine with a 2,000 hours Smokey flavour Engine....
Vintage Aircraft??
Are you mean the 250+ Mirage 3, Murage 5 and J 7s or you mean the 50+ years old F 16s...
Can't even afford a Twin Engine or a Modern European fighter....
Just have Chinese single Engine fighters as their Backbone...
Your whole 4th generation fighter fleet is lesser than India's Su 30MKI fleet....
There is no comparison between a Single Engine and Twin Engine fighter....
@@muhammadishaq561 Two or Three front war...
Forgot about the Western front they are more focused on IMF loans and IMRAN KHAN...🥴🥴🥴
They already achieved A Failed nation title for 25th time....
@@muhammadishaq561 Maybe the Western front will survive a Two day or three day war for after that A new world record will set...🤩
Pakistani army personnel daily saheed ho rahe hai tum pehele apna deakho na ....i wonder why paistani military is hated by pakistanis on all of the publlic forums I have been too.
@@AbinashMalana
Twin-engine fighter jets are neither invincible nor essential, especially when the adversary is just next door. They drain budgets, cost more to maintain and fly,
and are easier to detect and target due to their size and RCS. This is precisely why the IAF is perpetually short of funds, despite receiving a significant share of the defense budget.
But why focus on practical, cost-effective solutions when the goal is chest thumping, bragging and to impress at airshows, rather than field combat-ready jets? After all, who needs logic when you can dream of twin-engine wonders while relying on a fleet of aging, barely operational aircraft?
2030: PFX takes its first flight
2040: Finally 180 Tejas mk1 have been delivered
If developed by Pakistan, Pfx takes first flight by 2054😂😂😂😂
By then Pakistan won't exist 😂@@yamarck101
Personally mujhe lagta hai ki iaf ko koi bhi 5th generation fighter jet nhi lena chahiye or Pakistan ko jitni jldi ho ske china se 5th generation jet acquire Krna chahiye. Phir indian defence companies par bhi pressure aayga or may be war level pe amca ko production me le jaye
Bhai har chiz toh tot se ban raha
Hmmmmm.
Let's see.
A RD93 powered single engine 4th plus gen fighter.
I think I saw that before. In 1995. Again in 2007 when it entered PAF.
You know the one, kya ta naam, zahen se nikal giya.....
Russia has offered Su-57 to India with local production you Pakistanis should be worried about that.
@anubratadas4911 Russia offered the Felon back in 2010, but 15 years later still nothing.
We will wait at least until 2040 before worrying about Su57 being produced in India.
Oh yeah, while we are talking about it, how is the Rafale production line in Bangalore doing? How many Rafale did India produce? What? NONE,! I am shocked!
@@ImranKhan-ty6mx Su-57 has already entered mass production in Russia Russia has confirmed that and Trump will lift some sanctions against Russia. Su-57 wasn't fully developed in 2010. I suggest you stop reading propaganda of your liar media and government.
@@ImranKhan-ty6mxjaa naa bhutni k ...tu yaha kya kr raha hai....tere yaha protest chl Raha hai pahle wo dekh tu🥲🥲🥲🥲
@@ImranKhan-ty6mx there is no production line in india ...its a maintenance facility for the upkeep of the 36 rafale
4th like
Su 57 ki price kitni hai, 60 to 70 millions dollar hogi... And MRFA ke jets ki... 90 to 100 or more than, India ko....su57 precure kr lene chaiye.... Much better than, 4.5 gen... Jets
Aik kam karo engines ka itna masla hai to apnay mig 29 ground kerdo or un k engine teja main fit ker k kaam chala lo. Itni tension say phati kun hui hai?
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