Once upon a time, The future of democracy in Pakistan'', was a topic of one of my exams, and i flunked this essay miserably. A few months later, I discovered error in the topic, which had misled me to think as if Pakistan were a democratic country already. Presumably, the Examiner had deliberately posed the question to the student; or he might have no idea about the political history or regimes in Pakistan etc., but one thing became crystal clear after that exam, democracy in Pakistan has always been engineered and controlled by the Army+political turncoats in real time, and the people tend to focus on future of democratic system in the country that wish has yet to become realize.
It is interesting history - A *Cabinet Mission came to India in 1946 in order to discuss the transfer of power from the British government to the Indian political leadership, with the aim of preserving India's unity* and granting its independence - it was a *joint India proposal* of Britain (although before 1947, India was already divided into multiple independent princely states as each state had its own currency, military and independent governmental system) joint India proposal that was offered when Nehru on behalf of Gandhi Jee rejected the prime offer proposed to Indian leadership. *That Mr. Jinnah accepted with exception to ensure minority rights in specific state i.e. in Muslim Majority State and Hindu Majority State rights of minorities in both ends should be ensured* As Nehru jee wanted to eat the whole pie, Cabinet Mission prime offer was rejected along with the lame excuses. -- Question is who refused that prime offer of Joint India initially that Britain offered ?? -- Picture is very much clear now Nehru ruled India just like a communist dictator for 17 years straight 1- Pakistan still part of Communist China and ready to give access to them so called "warm water" theory 2- The fact is till 1947 India was not "Joint India" in true sense -- already divided into multiple independent princely states -- India was not one nation before 1947 3- btw, *now the idea of socialist or leftist India of Nehru is in the hands of Capitalist, not Socialist - It is ready to fight on behalf of Capitalist and Imperialist US and UK against the interest of Socialist Communist Russia and China
@@appleoranges9772 true socialism never got implemented in any part of the world. It was always manipulated and had always been a toy in hands of Dictatorship. China started as a Communist but current China is a capitalist. Even India's economic condition improved after LPG reforms in 1990-91.
As a matter of fact capitalism is not fully implemented anywhere in the world either. Mecca of capitalism us has already adopted and borrowed socialist Norms such as their social security system itself. Without adopting socialist Norm us cannot move forward an inch
You are confused. People can make choice through democracy within a framework. International policy, economic policy e.t.c have very little to do with religion.
I think there is no democracy in that part of the world [Pakistan, India], which I think Is ok. Those people have their own way of doing things and their own way of life. We in the West should not try to shove our way of life onto others....
The only sane comment I have ever seen on this topic. Thank you very much for respecting us. I respect the west too in their own ways of handling things until they start imposing everything on us Muslims.
God never came ....its the Good people who give new ideas.... God never write books... And their never is a book of God... It's only is people who write books.... And their should never be a book which can't be edited or reprinted..
How come Islamic caliphate is not democracy??? Hazrat Muhammad said all Muslims will choose their caliph, this is what happens in democracy, all people choose their prime minister, so Islam is very compatible with democracy, actually Islam is a true democracy, CALIPHATE WAS A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT
Both scientific attitude and democracy require a unfettered right to question any reigning proposition or hypothesis. In fact , scientific method requires one to state propositions and hypotheses in a falsifiable manner. But Islam on the other hand requires unquestioned belief in its prophet and the book. There are countless essays, plays and even movies questioning Bible, the Jewish scriptures, the Hindu gods and epics, and the Buddhist monks. Take a look at the number of countries where apostasy is punishable by death. Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen are the relevant countries. All of these countries, except Pakistan, allow for capital punishment against apostasy, while Pakistan imposes the death penalty for blasphemy - including a disbelief in God. The countries were assessed on the basis of the harshness of their penalties, the vagueness or precision of the offence, and the degree to which the blasphemy laws underpinned discrimination against some religious groups. In ranking by International Religious Freedom, top 10 spots were claimed by Islamic states. Pakistan and Egypt were among the countries found to be using blasphemy laws as a form of anti-minority oppression.
sorry sir what you talked about was the reality but the development and prosperity which were acheived in abbasi caliph was due to the following of basic teachings of islam
If anyone says islam is a violent religion they are termed islamophobic and will be killed If anyone condemn paedophile, incestous and necrophile fake prophet mohammed ........he will be killed by islamist. The moment muslim stop killing for honour and other silly thing they are nearer to be secular and democratic but that would fall foul of your religion....
It is interesting history - A *Cabinet Mission came to India in 1946 in order to discuss the transfer of power from the British government to the Indian political leadership, with the aim of preserving India's unity* and granting its independence - it was a *joint India proposal* of Britain (although before 1947, India was already divided into multiple independent princely states as each state had its own currency, military and independent governmental system) joint India proposal that was offered when Nehru on behalf of Gandhi Jee rejected the prime offer proposed to Indian leadership. *That Mr. Jinnah accepted with exception to ensure minority rights in specific state i.e. in Muslim Majority State and Hindu Majority State rights of minorities in both ends had to be ensured* As Nehru jee wanted to eat the whole pie, Cabinet Mission prime offer was rejected along with the lame excuses. -- Question is who refused that prime offer of Joint India initially that Britain offered ?? -- Picture is very much clear now Nehru ruled India just like a communist dictator for 17 years straight 1- Pakistan still part of Communist China and ready to give access to them so called "warm water" theory 2- The fact is till 1947 India was not "Joint India" in true sense -- already divided into multiple independent princely states -- India was not one nation before 1947 3- btw, *now the idea of socialist or leftist India of Nehru is in the hands of Capitalist, not Socialist - It is ready to fight on behalf of Capitalist and Imperialist US and UK against the interest of Socialist Communist Russia and China*
I would rather start with "WHY", WHY do we need Western defined Democracy in Muslim World? Yes I am drawing boundaries between thoughts and philosophies of Western and Muslim world. Is Democracy the answer to every question and problem related to Poverty, Liberty , Modernization, Education, Freedom and other social issues? Answer this and then talk about Democracy in Muslim world. If None of the Muslim countries have better governance systems, that's because they are not implementing the Muslim governance system and not because Islam lacks a governance system. There is no real Democracy in most of the countries but a bunch of capitalists playing with the minds of people to achieve their capital. Stop being fooled and start thinking.
The term which he uses "Muslim civilization" itself shows how narrow-minded. He himself ignored the people from other religions from that part of that world where they may have contributed to developing an Idea
albania and malaysia are two decent examples. The issue is pretty much every muslim country has been subject to colonialism, thus it's hard to seperate the effects of the two.
Identifying the problem of the Islamic Countries is only a starter... most of them have been stuck in the past glory of the religion since centuries. As a result most of the Islamic Countries are very underdeveloped on all counts as compared to the morden world. ( barring some exceptions who have achieved wealth and morden world amenities only due to natural resources accidently found with in their territory.😊) Escaping out of self imposed illusive religious Superiority Complex would not be easy for most of them. It would take decades if not centuries, if they start right now. I doubt they would be able to understand the problem in right perspective and try to improve rather realign their beliefs and thinking in near future. The other major problem with them is...they rely more on their religious preachers than their intellectual and intelligent people. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Then,pls define democracy . From the peole ,for the people ,by the people . But Caliphs ,were selected and not elected . Righteous people were to select them and not every body . There is a satire spread in India .Democracy is that system which values 100 Indians are prominent against one Mahathma Gandhi . Just like a hundred heads of donkeys are prominenti against one human head .. But now a days it is coming true in Indian politics .
@@1eV your negative mind is against Islam itself. U don't have any knowledge and idea about what is democracy exactly. U people are just brainwashed idiots. Knows nothing just being feeded with misleading information.
So according to you we can construct a better law than the blessed sahabas? Where do you think muslims fell down from establishing modern eras and technology? But although islam gives 100% right to the intellectuals but still the vital point is there can only be one law, the sharia or democracy no mixture of it is accepted. Your idea of interpretation of the holy word with the present era is quite impressive but your idea is already thought and acted upon by the wonderful scholars of islam alhamdulillah ! Hope this article will be of some awareness.
Islam has a system of Shuraa and in democracy we have seen uneducated and corrupt people at the top and created a mess in Pakistan. In Shura one is selected by consensus the best among us. Pls get educated
You guys like to speak bad of yourself, that's all By raising 1 point, you put the whole Muslim world in his account. That's why you are called because no one can call yourself worse than you
What a talk Mr. Pirzada. You must be very brave to talk like this.
Brilliant presentation. I am from India but I have no hesitation to admire the clarity of thoughts. Our region need Rationalist to Win all over
Which didn't happen till now
Islam & Democracy are 2 ends , Wherever there is Islam there is no Democracy
amit patil buddy look up for charter of medina ... single dcuments that has all the attributes of democracy.
Appreciate
@@veryviralpk don’t compel us to go back to 8th century & show us democracy in 21st in any Islamic republic of Middle East states.
Yes u learnt it from orange City
In democracy majority win but in islam truth is win
Mr. Peerzada is truly learned Man of Pakistan. Good job Peerzada sb 👏🏼
the most underrated talk?
Brilliant talk. One is inclined to reflect upon the key aspects of what he posits here, in general terms also.
Thank you, Sir.
Once upon a time, The future of democracy in Pakistan'', was a topic of one of my exams, and i flunked this essay miserably. A few months later, I discovered error in the topic, which had misled me to think as if Pakistan were a democratic country already. Presumably, the Examiner had deliberately posed the question to the student; or he might have no idea about the political history or regimes in Pakistan etc., but one thing became crystal clear after that exam, democracy in Pakistan has always been engineered and controlled by the Army+political turncoats in real time, and the people tend to focus on future of democratic system in the country that wish has yet to become realize.
It is interesting history - A *Cabinet Mission came to India in 1946 in order to discuss the transfer of power from the British government to the Indian political leadership, with the aim of preserving India's unity* and granting its independence - it was a *joint India proposal* of Britain (although before 1947, India was already divided into multiple independent princely states as each state had its own currency, military and independent governmental system) joint India proposal that was offered when Nehru on behalf of Gandhi Jee rejected the prime offer proposed to Indian leadership. *That Mr. Jinnah accepted with exception to ensure minority rights in specific state i.e. in Muslim Majority State and Hindu Majority State rights of minorities in both ends should be ensured* As Nehru jee wanted to eat the whole pie, Cabinet Mission prime offer was rejected along with the lame excuses. -- Question is who refused that prime offer of Joint India initially that Britain offered ??
-- Picture is very much clear now
Nehru ruled India just like a communist dictator for 17 years straight
1- Pakistan still part of Communist China and ready to give access to them so called "warm water" theory
2- The fact is till 1947 India was not "Joint India" in true sense -- already divided into multiple independent princely states -- India was not one nation before 1947
3- btw, *now the idea of socialist or leftist India of Nehru is in the hands of Capitalist, not Socialist - It is ready to fight on behalf of Capitalist and Imperialist US and UK against the interest of Socialist Communist Russia and China
@@appleoranges9772 true socialism never got implemented in any part of the world. It was always manipulated and had always been a toy in hands of Dictatorship. China started as a Communist but current China is a capitalist. Even India's economic condition improved after LPG reforms in 1990-91.
As a matter of fact capitalism is not fully implemented anywhere in the world either. Mecca of capitalism us has already adopted and borrowed socialist Norms such as their social security system itself. Without adopting socialist Norm us cannot move forward an inch
India for me is not capitalist Society . To me it is more fascist system then socialist or capitalist it runs by a few goons in the system
This man is intellectual.
Wow!! Brilliant analysis!
One of the best TED Talks....
Bravo Sir. Stay safe.
Dr moeed you are genius you are our proud 👏
Truly sir i was lost listening you, you are such an mind attractive personality...
A very imp topic to talk
this man has knowledge, he completely understand the politics of Pakistan.
Islam envisages rule of God, democracy envisages the rule of people......both are dimatrically opposite..
Christianity also envisages the rule of god, it doesn't mean a country can't separate the two.
Read the 42nd Chapter of the Quran, “The Consultation.” You obviously haven’t done enough research.
You are confused.
People can make choice through democracy within a framework. International policy, economic policy e.t.c have very little to do with religion.
Beautifully narrated…explained..superb
Our illiterate politicians never acknowledge these kind of people ( genius)
They won’t be taken in policy making etc 😭😭😭😭
Food for thought
Nice thought. Valid for every religion.
Beautiful ♥️
Beautiful lecture. Thought provoking.
On Point! Heard the talk live as well! Amazing concept!
On Point! Amazing!
Pakistan Zindabad
Beautiful
In hindi a word called
LODA
It means democracy in muslims world
If u want take it, take it and enjoy.
Bitter words but factual
😅😅😅😅😅
Rain in desert Sahara would be the appropriate title...!!
Awesome lecture
I think there is no democracy in that part of the world [Pakistan, India], which I think Is ok. Those people have their own way of doing things and their own way of life. We in the West should not try to shove our way of life onto others....
The only sane comment I have ever seen on this topic. Thank you very much for respecting us. I respect the west too in their own ways of handling things until they start imposing everything on us Muslims.
India is democracy. pak is not. Not a single pm has completed their full term in pak. govt is also controlled by army and isi.
Very good and very clear Lecturer without any imbugity. Visit India for new ideas for education. You are a rebellious person for darkness to sunlight
God never came ....its the Good people who give new ideas....
God never write books...
And their never is a book of God...
It's only is people who write books....
And their should never be a book which can't be edited or reprinted..
Interesting and informative lecture.
I have read the novel Animal Farm 20 years ago -- now it is available on RUclips in video form
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I read Animal Farm because of this video. Moeed is a nice guy. But he has changed alot since this talk.
Means.........he got threats.........
Naa he is the same check his youtube chanel and GVS
respect from india
This man speaks brilliant english PCB should make him the captain of the national team😅😅
How come Islamic caliphate is not democracy??? Hazrat Muhammad said all Muslims will choose their caliph, this is what happens in democracy, all people choose their prime minister, so Islam is very compatible with democracy, actually Islam is a true democracy, CALIPHATE WAS A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT
Very brave man.
Both scientific attitude and democracy require a unfettered right to question any reigning proposition or hypothesis. In fact , scientific method requires one to state propositions and hypotheses in a falsifiable manner. But Islam on the other hand requires unquestioned belief in its prophet and the book. There are countless essays, plays and even movies questioning Bible, the Jewish scriptures, the Hindu gods and epics, and the Buddhist monks.
Take a look at the number of countries where apostasy is punishable by death.
Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen are the relevant countries.
All of these countries, except Pakistan, allow for capital punishment against apostasy, while Pakistan imposes the death penalty for blasphemy - including a disbelief in God.
The countries were assessed on the basis of the harshness of their penalties, the vagueness or precision of the offence, and the degree to which the blasphemy laws underpinned discrimination against some religious groups. In ranking by International Religious Freedom, top 10 spots were claimed by Islamic states. Pakistan and Egypt were among the countries found to be using blasphemy laws as a form of anti-minority oppression.
Very well said. Making something unquestionable is the fundamental error which prevents rationality.
sorry sir what you talked about was the reality but the development and prosperity which were acheived in abbasi caliph was due to the following of basic teachings of islam
Where is Pakistani in d comment section certainly they don't like talk on democracy
But when u condemn israel in some of this so called Democratic country, or peacefully boycotting israel...they will be charged as anti-semitic.
Try praising Ahmadis in the non democratic countries what will happen to you will be much worse
If anyone says islam is a violent religion they are termed islamophobic and will be killed
If anyone condemn paedophile, incestous and necrophile fake prophet mohammed ........he will be killed by islamist.
The moment muslim stop killing for honour and other silly thing they are nearer to be secular and democratic but that would fall foul of your religion....
It is interesting history - A *Cabinet Mission came to India in 1946 in order to discuss the transfer of power from the British government to the Indian political leadership, with the aim of preserving India's unity* and granting its independence - it was a *joint India proposal* of Britain (although before 1947, India was already divided into multiple independent princely states as each state had its own currency, military and independent governmental system) joint India proposal that was offered when Nehru on behalf of Gandhi Jee rejected the prime offer proposed to Indian leadership. *That Mr. Jinnah accepted with exception to ensure minority rights in specific state i.e. in Muslim Majority State and Hindu Majority State rights of minorities in both ends had to be ensured* As Nehru jee wanted to eat the whole pie, Cabinet Mission prime offer was rejected along with the lame excuses. -- Question is who refused that prime offer of Joint India initially that Britain offered ??
-- Picture is very much clear now
Nehru ruled India just like a communist dictator for 17 years straight
1- Pakistan still part of Communist China and ready to give access to them so called "warm water" theory
2- The fact is till 1947 India was not "Joint India" in true sense -- already divided into multiple independent princely states -- India was not one nation before 1947
3- btw, *now the idea of socialist or leftist India of Nehru is in the hands of Capitalist, not Socialist - It is ready to fight on behalf of Capitalist and Imperialist US and UK against the interest of Socialist Communist Russia and China*
Great..!! 👍
I would rather start with "WHY", WHY do we need Western defined Democracy in Muslim World?
Yes I am drawing boundaries between thoughts and philosophies of Western and Muslim world. Is Democracy the answer to every question and problem related to Poverty, Liberty , Modernization, Education, Freedom and other social issues? Answer this and then talk about Democracy in Muslim world.
If None of the Muslim countries have better governance systems, that's because they are not implementing the Muslim governance system and not because Islam lacks a governance system.
There is no real Democracy in most of the countries but a bunch of capitalists playing with the minds of people to achieve their capital. Stop being fooled and start thinking.
The term which he uses "Muslim civilization" itself shows how narrow-minded. He himself ignored the people from other religions from that part of that world where they may have contributed to developing an Idea
democracy is wrong . Legislation belongs to The God !
you are not in your senses man?think before you talk........there is no problem in democracy...what you talking about is liberal democracy of west.
God is not going to come down to implement his laws ? People has to do. Rule of people is called democracy.
Hamza Yusuf is not from South Asia.
Salaam plz can someone tell the names of muslim democratic countries.
albania and malaysia are two decent examples. The issue is pretty much every muslim country has been subject to colonialism, thus it's hard to seperate the effects of the two.
@@flyingllamas7574 ok😊
Great
Identifying the problem of the Islamic Countries is only a starter... most of them have been stuck in the past glory of the religion since centuries. As a result most of the Islamic Countries are very underdeveloped on all counts as compared to the morden world. ( barring some exceptions who have achieved wealth and morden world amenities only due to natural resources accidently found with in their territory.😊) Escaping out of self imposed illusive religious Superiority Complex would not be easy for most of them. It would take decades if not centuries, if they start right now. I doubt they would be able to understand the problem in right perspective and try to improve rather realign their beliefs and thinking in near future.
The other major problem with them is...they rely more on their religious preachers than their intellectual and intelligent people.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
His bang on the route issue in muslim country.
Born wise and thinkers are something that you cannot have with degrees or high fly jobs ...
It's a gifted thing .
nice thought
Then,pls define democracy .
From the peole ,for the people ,by the people .
But Caliphs ,were selected and not elected .
Righteous people were to select them and not every body .
There is a satire spread in India .Democracy is that system which values 100 Indians are prominent against one Mahathma Gandhi .
Just like a hundred heads of donkeys are prominenti against one human head ..
But now a days it is coming true in Indian politics .
Y we copy western things
Y we installed democracy which is western....
Why are you using smartphone & computers which is western ?? Irony. Science & Democracy is an evolved idea.
@@vikram6577 because mobile phone is not against Islamic philosophy, democracy is
@@1eV your negative mind is against Islam itself. U don't have any knowledge and idea about what is democracy exactly. U people are just brainwashed idiots. Knows nothing just being feeded with misleading information.
@@IrfanKhan-resistance you didn't make any argument against my claim there. Just saying.
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So according to you we can construct a better law than the blessed sahabas? Where do you think muslims fell down from establishing modern eras and technology? But although islam gives 100% right to the intellectuals but still the vital point is there can only be one law, the sharia or democracy no mixture of it is accepted. Your idea of interpretation of the holy word with the present era is quite impressive but your idea is already thought and acted upon by the wonderful scholars of islam alhamdulillah ! Hope this article will be of some awareness.
Today's world is much more complex and we need to realize that.
Javed ahmed ghamidi on democracy. Watch it.
🙏🙏rehnay do us ko
No he's not our scholar
Islam has a system of Shuraa and in democracy we have seen uneducated and corrupt people at the top and created a mess in Pakistan. In Shura one is selected by consensus the best among us. Pls get educated
Very nicely manipulated.
I encourage people to read the 42nd Chapter of the Quran, “The Consultation.” Democracy is inherent in Islam.
Isi agent he is talking democracy 😂😂😂😂😂😂
islam?
me.. i know all religion are ideas.
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You guys like to speak bad of yourself, that's all
By raising 1 point, you put the whole Muslim world in his account.
That's why you are called because no one can call yourself worse than you
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