Scouting report from a friend .. "I just got confirmation that Encore will expand their hours again. Starting in October they will be open 10am-4am 7 days a week."
Yeah, all the dealers have confirmed the 7 days a week. Current hours are 10am-2am Sunday through Thursday. Only day the list is super long is Sunday, but Friday and Saturday will be the same.
Shove for a few reasons #1 he gives up GSs on the turn #2 in this game less likely he bluffs. #3 1/2psb isn't a bluff big enough #4 if he had a 9 he is raising at some point So his range is top boat, quads, or some other value hand like AT, KT which out combo the strong hands.
How do we feel about checking OTT? Vill called OTF w/ an opponent behind. Vill has plenty of 9x. There's only one combo of ATs. Also many of vill's draws could be combo draws. Against that range check OTT. If the river completes non club draws I probably bet/fold 1/3. Otherwise a brick, I bet/fold 1/2. Club river is probably x/c. Or are we too face up at that point?
Appreciate the caller, the hand, the host and the show. I'm needing to come away from these faster (turbos) games so that I have the time to think some of this through. It's invaluable.
Before reveal...Hero is face up he has JJ or better or AK. Villian is basically face up as well either a 10 or a 9, I'm just not as confident he continues with a 10 because he could only do this if he puts you specifically on AK and there have too much AA, KK and QQ in your range.
Very helpful. It seems like he committed himself to calling a river shove with the size of his turn bet. If he had bet a little less, he would have more options on the river. But as played, it seems like Bart is correct that he might as well jam to get value from a 10. I wonder if he had only bet $200 on the turn, which would have created a pot of $830 with $515 left behind, does that change the decision to shove for value on the river? Can you check/fold to a shove at that point? Induce with a small bet?
Yeah I was thinking this too. Deals well with the situation of opponent having either a ten or a 9, but deals poorly with QJ or clubs, both of which have about a 20% draw. If you bet 200 you are giving them 200/935 odds which is I guess not awful. But maybe 220? That gives 220/975 odds which does charge them, and creates 975 on the river with 495 behind, 1/2 pot. And then you could block-lead $150 and fold to a shove.
You should go over some hands Brandon had yesterday on Live at The Bike. He absolutely destroyed the table which included G-Man and Andy. I was super impressed.
One thing to add about the riv shove is your line is so strong your opponent with 2 pair may think you wouldnt do this with just an overpair so will call because you cant really have it unless you have tens full/quads. Basically they can think your value is too narrow to not call down
I don't agree that the river is a value bet. Is a T calling here after such a show of strength? I think he'd only be getting called by better. Better to check call and give the guy a chance to bluff since flush missed. I'd jam if non-club Q hit, tho. Top two, KQ, AQ might call. Maybe even QJ. Live 2/5 players have a tougher time folding after hitting top pair on the river for some reason.
The guys who are “bothered” by a hand like this are the very lucky ones. Disappointed that they only won a pretty large pot, and not the extra $440. I’m sure a lot of you know where I’m coming from. For me, the river is a complete brick, but we were already crushed on the flop, destined to loose our entire stack anyway. Any 9… 10’s full… even the occasional “LoL” turned or rivered full house…
Bart, why do you have such good taste in music? All that TOOL and Rush and stuff.. those are nerd bands! Do you play any instruments? “Weave my allegorical elegy” brother!
I find it outrageous that Bart so confidently.rules out QQ and JJ. A huge portion of 2/5 players, especially recreational players, would play QQ and JJ exactly like this. And we heavily block AT so there aren't a lot of Tx in opponents range. Maybe he checked back 87 of clubs.
We can't assume he doesn't have a 9. But if he does, for the most part, there's not much we can do about it. So we try to maximize value against the rest of his potential hands. It's kind of like when you have kk preflop. You don't know that nobody has AA. But you're better off playing to try to win the maximum assuming nobody does.
This is a pure river shove regardless of the card given the action. Having less than half pot behind heading to a river, and not putting it in with ANY semblance of showdown value regardless of the river card, let alone the best available 2 pair, is comical. Bart could have answered this one via single sentence email instead of doing a call video. “You have Aces in a 3b pot with less than half pot behind on the river, lead mash it in there.”
You guys are just straight-up wrong about preflop sizes. He's in the SB 200BB deep. He needs to raise something like 2.5-3.5x pot. $170-$230ish. $80 is ridiculously too small. He can maybe use that size on occasion to use with some of his weaker hands for balance but his main sizing should be significantly larger.
@@Ohrami normal preflop raise size for a 3 bet is a pot size bet so normally 3x the original raise plus the dead money or if out of position 4x plus the dead money which would be about $100 I don’t know where you get the 3x pot from nothing is calling a 12x retakes size except like queens plus
@@joshsheppard21 So you decide to do what's "normal", aka what everyone else is doing, aka what losing players do, rather than deciding what to do based on optimal play determined by solutions? If nothing calls that raise size but QQ+, you should raise that size with 100% of your range.
In villain’s shoes you can’t really call on the river with a ten, can you? What do you beat really? However, you are getting great odds. AKcc, JQ which u are blocking a ton if you have a Ten like JT, QT spades, clubs, etc…
Most ppl arent betting 3 streets with jacks through aces here so another way to see it is line is more likely a bluff due to excessive line strength per represented hand range
Agree especailly with the st8 card hitting which brings in a few bluffs,he would need to be a huge fish to call with just a T facing a pf squeeze and triple barrel oop oin that board.
Scouting report from a friend .. "I just got confirmation that Encore will expand their hours again. Starting in October they will be open 10am-4am 7 days a week."
Yeah, all the dealers have confirmed the 7 days a week. Current hours are 10am-2am Sunday through Thursday. Only day the list is super long is Sunday, but Friday and Saturday will be the same.
Bart where do u live ??? I'm in Woburn !
Shove for a few reasons
#1 he gives up GSs on the turn
#2 in this game less likely he bluffs.
#3 1/2psb isn't a bluff big enough
#4 if he had a 9 he is raising at some point
So his range is top boat, quads, or some other value hand like AT, KT which out combo the strong hands.
@@dipsetdipset1850 I grew up in Reading actually I live in that area now!
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 that's funny
Bart I’ve been a longtime sub n really enjoy these videos. I’ve never sent you a thank you so thx for the entertainment. Always look fwd to watching 👍
Great tip about jamming the river, Bart. I learn something from you almost every video.
How do we feel about checking OTT? Vill called OTF w/ an opponent behind. Vill has plenty of 9x. There's only one combo of ATs. Also many of vill's draws could be combo draws. Against that range check OTT. If the river completes non club draws I probably bet/fold 1/3. Otherwise a brick, I bet/fold 1/2. Club river is probably x/c.
Or are we too face up at that point?
$1-$3 match the stack totally killed $2-$5 in my local casino. Which is fine, way more action on the 1-3 match stack game
Where's that?
@@jameswalker7420 Turning stone casino Upstate NY
@@finalfantasy1201 thanks, never been there but I've been to almost 240 poker rooms so maybe one day...
Watching this before a tournament. Amazing content. Thanks
“Can you hear me Bart?” is probably the first thing I hear in every video lol
0:11 I like the Dave Ramsey reference
Appreciate the caller, the hand, the host and the show. I'm needing to come away from these faster (turbos) games so that I have the time to think some of this through. It's invaluable.
Before reveal...Hero is face up he has JJ or better or AK. Villian is basically face up as well either a 10 or a 9, I'm just not as confident he continues with a 10 because he could only do this if he puts you specifically on AK and there have too much AA, KK and QQ in your range.
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 Stop, he never has A10 suited or 88…
His 3 bets pre are 1010+ and maybe AJ suited or AQ off and above…
@@mjriemen AT suited is an excellend squeeze hand,88 not so much
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 I never have A10 or 88 here fwiw
@0:10 Bart Hanson is a Dave Ramsey fan? :-)
Very helpful. It seems like he committed himself to calling a river shove with the size of his turn bet. If he had bet a little less, he would have more options on the river. But as played, it seems like Bart is correct that he might as well jam to get value from a 10. I wonder if he had only bet $200 on the turn, which would have created a pot of $830 with $515 left behind, does that change the decision to shove for value on the river? Can you check/fold to a shove at that point? Induce with a small bet?
Yeah I was thinking this too. Deals well with the situation of opponent having either a ten or a 9, but deals poorly with QJ or clubs, both of which have about a 20% draw. If you bet 200 you are giving them 200/935 odds which is I guess not awful. But maybe 220? That gives 220/975 odds which does charge them, and creates 975 on the river with 495 behind, 1/2 pot. And then you could block-lead $150 and fold to a shove.
You think that rake and Encore is beatable Bart?
Not sure how to do the math but wonder if there is case for all in 100% with aces and three callers or more behind.
You should go over some hands Brandon had yesterday on Live at The Bike. He absolutely destroyed the table which included G-Man and Andy. I was super impressed.
idk about destroyed. he rivered a boat and flopped a set against garrett and garret folded his trips and overpair. more like garret destroyed him
Which Brandon?
@@CrushlivePoker he was on dead at the bike stream last night.
Let's go Brandon! Oh wait, no, uh uh, nope, never say that.
@@burkhartlaw1 that's all me, jack
One thing to add about the riv shove is your line is so strong your opponent with 2 pair may think you wouldnt do this with just an overpair so will call because you cant really have it unless you have tens full/quads. Basically they can think your value is too narrow to not call down
Watching these videos a lot.I have noticed I started saying "I mean" a lot now.
I thought Encore was trying to kill poker and it was being propped up by the gaming commission-they restrict hours and charge a huge rake no?
Insightful. Thank you
I don't agree that the river is a value bet. Is a T calling here after such a show of strength? I think he'd only be getting called by better. Better to check call and give the guy a chance to bluff since flush missed. I'd jam if non-club Q hit, tho. Top two, KQ, AQ might call. Maybe even QJ. Live 2/5 players have a tougher time folding after hitting top pair on the river for some reason.
Get your value on the flop and turn. I do not agree that check is good on blank turn.
Not open Fridays and Saturdays?😆
The guys who are “bothered” by a hand like this are the very lucky ones.
Disappointed that they only won a pretty large pot, and not the extra $440.
I’m sure a lot of you know where I’m coming from. For me, the river is a complete brick, but we were already crushed on the flop, destined to loose our entire stack anyway. Any 9… 10’s full… even the occasional “LoL” turned or rivered full house…
Bart is the Dave Ramsey of poker. Baby step 1....Three bed fold
I'd be more worried about TT.
Bart, why do you have such good taste in music? All that TOOL and Rush and stuff.. those are nerd bands! Do you play any instruments? “Weave my allegorical elegy” brother!
I find it outrageous that Bart so confidently.rules out QQ and JJ. A huge portion of 2/5 players, especially recreational players, would play QQ and JJ exactly like this. And we heavily block AT so there aren't a lot of Tx in opponents range. Maybe he checked back 87 of clubs.
And the type of villain who double flats pre is exactly the type of villain who can have QQ and JJ here.
I like his three bet. I thought it was small enough to get called by at least one player I guess maybe he did need to go larger.
I’m new to poker , can anyone tell me why there is no one assume that villain has nine ?
We can't assume he doesn't have a 9. But if he does, for the most part, there's not much we can do about it. So we try to maximize value against the rest of his potential hands. It's kind of like when you have kk preflop. You don't know that nobody has AA. But you're better off playing to try to win the maximum assuming nobody does.
This is a pure river shove regardless of the card given the action. Having less than half pot behind heading to a river, and not putting it in with ANY semblance of showdown value regardless of the river card, let alone the best available 2 pair, is comical. Bart could have answered this one via single sentence email instead of doing a call video. “You have Aces in a 3b pot with less than half pot behind on the river, lead mash it in there.”
Stealing a line from Dave Ramsey
Bart's 3 bet freeeeeeeee!!!!!
Great advice as v really can't fold a 10 for 300 more.
you seem triggered.. please watch the video titled "Breaking Down a Hero Call for $5000!"
Check flop…
You guys are just straight-up wrong about preflop sizes. He's in the SB 200BB deep. He needs to raise something like 2.5-3.5x pot. $170-$230ish. $80 is ridiculously too small. He can maybe use that size on occasion to use with some of his weaker hands for balance but his main sizing should be significantly larger.
From $15 to $170-$230 lmao what 😂
@@joshsheppard21 Yes. What's abnormal about that?
@@Ohrami normal preflop raise size for a 3 bet is a pot size bet so normally 3x the original raise plus the dead money or if out of position 4x plus the dead money which would be about $100 I don’t know where you get the 3x pot from nothing is calling a 12x retakes size except like queens plus
@@joshsheppard21 So you decide to do what's "normal", aka what everyone else is doing, aka what losing players do, rather than deciding what to do based on optimal play determined by solutions?
If nothing calls that raise size but QQ+, you should raise that size with 100% of your range.
No solver recommends huge size like that for a squeeze you literally just made that up good luck tho I’m sure you’re a great player
Looks a little bit like Harry Potter! Lol.
more on flop, shove turn
In villain’s shoes you can’t really call on the river with a ten, can you? What do you beat really? However, you are getting great odds. AKcc, JQ which u are blocking a ton if you have a Ten like JT, QT spades, clubs, etc…
Most ppl arent betting 3 streets with jacks through aces here so another way to see it is line is more likely a bluff due to excessive line strength per represented hand range
Agree especailly with the st8 card hitting which brings in a few bluffs,he would need to be a huge fish to call with just a T facing a pf squeeze and triple barrel oop oin that board.
@@adamweir1191 V ismt going that deep,he will just see huge strenght,would you call with just a T here?
@@Gos1234567 too many variables to say such as my perception of the opponent and my opinion on what he thinks of me
Man this caller talks from the very back of his throat
Looks a little bit like Harry Potter! Lol.
Right, how’s that necessary? I guess it could be relevant some how
@@kurtiskrejci723 might have been Ike Haxton
It’s not relevant. I just found that humorous.
True ike does look like potter .