Congrats on you being wrong maybe when you get out of plat rank you'll be able to come up with your own reasoning instead of being a clueless sheep @raingaming3209
Beast is no.1. Most damage in the game, most polarizing combo distruption rn (card cost increase + 50% distrupt > Vegeta's gauge), has a kill button/snipe button, makes your opponents not use ults/rush the entire game and his existence majorly hurts MV.
Ssj3 tied with Ultra gohan is diabolical He can easily One Combo Beast Him and Gotenks can ignore what beast does for most part imo he's RN better than vegito having at 8* is just wrong
not even close. umv not only offers you insane dmg but he also offers so utility. aoe green, lock it ult, cancel buffs on ult and blue card, auto gauge counter. gohan beast is no near on his lvl utility wise. damage wise beast is better but thats literally it. tbh hes not allat without his special thing and counter. the only issue (at least for me) is the 50% distrupt
@ayanoslow what?? His gauge literally stop your opponent from using Ult and RR how is that not utility? Plus his arts card cost up+10 is HUGE, Beast is simply better
@@timooryasen3540 I agree. His control on the whole field even when he’s on standby is ludicrous, it’s like you’re taking the ability to rush from the opponent.
UMV will ultimately last longer than beast will. His easy cover null with the green, annoying lock in ability, and his survive ability. Beast is already a glass cannon, and there will come a point in time where Beast’s damage will become bad just like GoFrieza. UMV better in the long run.
@@timooryasen3540 then just don't rush? don't use the ult? the dude's difence is ass just blue card him with daimaku or even better ult with him since Gohan can't counter long range ultimates. + you can still easily rush him just wait for him to attack and then rush quickly
Its the same situation as with tree of might goku, where he makes buff cancel on standby some godsend ability "you are forced to waste ur ultimate" yeah but every ultimate in the game is worthless besides majin vegeta and maybe beast. What do i care about my gotenks ultimate or daima gokus? I just want my endurance null or the 2 dragon balls from the main, the ult might as well not exist. They counter the ult? Who cares ill heal it off in 2 green cards, they dont? Even better for me, after that i am back to do my endurance null rr shenanigans. Idk if its typical for the entire jp queue but man goresh is so scared to pop the gauges.
I think Beast is better than MV cause his match up against him is better than MV against Beast. The special beam cannon will kill MV every time while Beast is immune to MV Ult so he cant get sniped. he is also great to stop the crazy long combios which MV needs to be at his best. Also I agree with UL ssj2 gohans placement. after using him for a bit with Beast. HE IS CRACKED
My take about sniping with Beast or MV argument is that while MV’s is easier/faster to get it’s not as easy as Beast’s because you can’t go through endurance characters (even more so now since Beast is cancelling his buffs off the field). You can argue to combo with MV until the endurance is popped yes, but at that point other characters can come in before the endurance is popped and “save” the other character.
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Ultra Gohan actually hurts Beast because his Z ability is trash and he holds 2 blast cards. Armor break is nice and all, but it's not needed. I think LL Trunks (holds 2 strike cards) is a much better 3rd option to run along side Beast.
Beast is gonna fall off hard. Sbc is not gonna one shot, the damage is going to fall off with time. He just does not have enough defense to hold on for long its just pure damage currently and damage aint gonna take him that far.
Ain't no way bro said bg is going to fall of hard. It's true he is kinda squishy, but his disrupt utility, and a free snipe is going to make him last longer
@zkaiwho6081 the free snipe ain't gonna be snipe for long the damage on it is going to fall off eventually. Disrupt is good for those long vb combos but not that much of a threat.
Well yes but ssj 3 Goku can get disrupted easily still from UMV’s counter and also from defensive gauges like treeku soh trunks or rosé also mv not killing most of the time in my experience just because of buff cancellation beast also has an aoe ultimate not that big of a deal but special beam cannon’s buffs can’t be cancelled like let’s say u run up against a team like beast Gohan and TVB majin vegeta is helpless if majin vegeta is fighting beast he can’t combo long and he can’t ult beast he isn’t immune to disrupts beast himself is also immune to arts cost increase in the ssj 2 state goku just sucks he’s barely got cover null I actually think goresh’s list is pretty accurate
Only people who think beast is number 1 are slaty people who didn't pull umv. There's literally no argument to make for beast being number 1. Don't know why these guys think umv is some 1 dimensional unit who relies on ult to get the job done. UMV is undisputed number 1
I just don’t see how someone can put Beast above UMV. Yeah the SBC exists but UMV has so much more that makes him more difficult to deal with. What Goresh about Beast stopping UMV to snipe is not true vs any non endurance character. It happened to me so many times with VB. I let him to try to get the heal but MV comes in, 1 card then ult and I lose my VB.
Majin vegeta is not sniping anyone. His ultimate can be easily nerfed by beast or by other character that remover buffs. He doesn't one shot: Beast Vegito Gotenks Himself Turles Ssj3 goku Daimaku Goku black While beast can one shot all of them. Youre just saying this because mv is more toxic,
The reason why the amateurs in this comment section think beast is no.1 is because they didn't pull for UMV and then they pulled for UBG,so they think their new shiny toy is better than everything else in the game,UMV just does more than beast
Beast is not.1 I've said it before he's very star dependent At 14* Fine. But lower stars he's just not effective his special beam and His Gauge relying him being tanky He just can't tank at lower stars to be no .1
Imo they are very 1a.) 1b.). There is not going to be a lot of separation between them, when the best team in the game, at least in my opinion, includes them both, whether you have the third slot be a defensive movies base with Turles or an offensive Buu Saga base with Gotenks and vice versa. MV and UBG both benefit each other to an extent that evens the gap between them. One brings arguably the best rush deterrent we have in this game and the other brings arguably the best combo stop potential in the game along with both of them having the best snipe potential in the game, miles better than most other units. I personally have Beast above MV, only because he is better for the game's health than MV is, in terms of kit it could really go either way, as they are *that* even.
@@Ethan-San_x Uh, if you read the comment instead of going based on assumptions, I legit say that I put Beast over MV. In terms of kit I think they are rather even and could go either or, but I find Beast to be number 1 because he is healthier for the game and what ultras *should* be.
@tacodyrwhat that doesn’t make sense i thought listings was based off how powerful a character is not how balanced they are 💀 your whole comment is contradictory
@@iownstaticz8687 Imo purely basing a list on power alone will just ruin the game. Do you want units to be toxic, unfair and game breaking, making the game unfun? That's the kind of units you'll get with power as the only focus. I have Beast above UMV because he's healthier for the game while UMV is unhealthy for the game. If you read the comment clearer you'll see that I mention that in terms of power alone they are (imo) even and can be swapped around in listings. What helps them more is that they are both a part of the best team in the game.
I like Goresh’s video. I think Beast is N1 by a gap but he isn’t even toxic. Very good change of playstyle
No he isn't. Vegeta is better and beast has weak defence
@@tushargore2955 he has weak defense and abusrdly broken offense that I think trumps the game
@@Ysuke_12nah bruh 10+ to my arts cards ain’t so bad… Majin Vegeta is straight stupid
@@tushargore2955yeah bro weak defense 💀
@@tushargore2955Skill issue. MV can't even lock in and kill anymore thanks to Beasts ult counter, as well as his off field buff cancellation.
I agree with Ultra Pomni black at top 1
Who’s that
Funny enough Goku black Cover change null buff can through Beast Gauge it applies allies too when Beast on standby
@@Aloviya funny enough hes still trash
@@Aloviyagreat point but my rebuttal Yell TF goku black still sucks balls
Oh no the brain rot is spreading.
I agree with the beast gohan placement
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Congrats on you being wrong maybe when you get out of plat rank you'll be able to come up with your own reasoning instead of being a clueless sheep @raingaming3209
Beast is no.1. Most damage in the game, most polarizing combo distruption rn (card cost increase + 50% distrupt > Vegeta's gauge), has a kill button/snipe button, makes your opponents not use ults/rush the entire game and his existence majorly hurts MV.
All these reasons and people still think UMV is better lol
@@TheSophicWell duhh, UMV is very consistent and can instant snipe plus toxic aoe green card😂
@@irids....he can‘t snipe beast tho…
So by that logic if ultra ssj2 gohan gets a top 8 spot surely UG4 must have a similar placing when red ultra ssj4 goku drops in a year
We’re not gonna talk about that voice crack
Where?
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He's not gonna let you hit
@@ronitshetty28🤣🤣dudes mouth full
5:26 Also beast is immune to Downgrades and Abnormal conditions for 10 counts every time he enters the battlefield (3 times)
Ssj3 tied with Ultra gohan is diabolical He can easily One Combo Beast Him and Gotenks can ignore what beast does for most part imo he's RN better than vegito having at 8* is just wrong
no tf he can't I swear all of you forget that ssj2 has the melee gauge
they are in the same tier for me lol i dont like ssj3 daima is so much better
ssj3 is not better than vb. vb is literally a way better version of ssj3
@ayanoslowexcept vb can get his combo stopped by ultra beast han and ssj3 keeps going
@ayanoslowso if u wanna be technicall ssj3 already aging better
I love How rose has been completely forgotten 😂😂
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Black rose
Godku part 2
The one that people swore was going to age better than Vegito LMAO
@@mikeshark8869 Oh Yeah i remember that,stupid ass people lol
Beast is just better than UMV im sorry
not even close. umv not only offers you insane dmg but he also offers so utility. aoe green, lock it ult, cancel buffs on ult and blue card, auto gauge counter. gohan beast is no near on his lvl utility wise. damage wise beast is better but thats literally it. tbh hes not allat without his special thing and counter. the only issue (at least for me) is the 50% distrupt
@ayanoslow what?? His gauge literally stop your opponent from using Ult and RR how is that not utility? Plus his arts card cost up+10 is HUGE, Beast is simply better
@@timooryasen3540 I agree. His control on the whole field even when he’s on standby is ludicrous, it’s like you’re taking the ability to rush from the opponent.
UMV will ultimately last longer than beast will. His easy cover null with the green, annoying lock in ability, and his survive ability. Beast is already a glass cannon, and there will come a point in time where Beast’s damage will become bad just like GoFrieza. UMV better in the long run.
@@timooryasen3540 then just don't rush? don't use the ult? the dude's difence is ass just blue card him with daimaku or even better ult with him since Gohan can't counter long range ultimates. + you can still easily rush him just wait for him to attack and then rush quickly
i want gotenks in new year banners, he so good immune 100 timer count plus advantage against beast and majin 😊
Its the same situation as with tree of might goku, where he makes buff cancel on standby some godsend ability "you are forced to waste ur ultimate" yeah but every ultimate in the game is worthless besides majin vegeta and maybe beast. What do i care about my gotenks ultimate or daima gokus? I just want my endurance null or the 2 dragon balls from the main, the ult might as well not exist. They counter the ult? Who cares ill heal it off in 2 green cards, they dont? Even better for me, after that i am back to do my endurance null rr shenanigans. Idk if its typical for the entire jp queue but man goresh is so scared to pop the gauges.
Bro use red characters and rush if he counter you bye bye gauge if they not counter you free rush
Daima goku ult not gonna get countered anyways
@@dhakshkamra1553 yeah but getting two dragon ball when you have 5 early game
Which is why I don’t agree with beast being number 1 at all.
I don’t feel threatened when beast is on the team compared to majin vegeta.
beast ultimate is so good
I think Beast is better than MV cause his match up against him is better than MV against Beast. The special beam cannon will kill MV every time while Beast is immune to MV Ult so he cant get sniped. he is also great to stop the crazy long combios which MV needs to be at his best. Also I agree with UL ssj2 gohans placement. after using him for a bit with Beast. HE IS CRACKED
My take about sniping with Beast or MV argument is that while MV’s is easier/faster to get it’s not as easy as Beast’s because you can’t go through endurance characters (even more so now since Beast is cancelling his buffs off the field). You can argue to combo with MV until the endurance is popped yes, but at that point other characters can come in before the endurance is popped and “save” the other character.
Bro, please watch his videos with higher quality😭
I think he's screen recording off his phone thats why
@@Guap1nonly ik, but he watches his videos on 480p☠️
So with Uncancellable Cover null you can Bypass Gohan's gauge with the Rush or Ult When he's on standby that could be problem for him
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Everyone talks about Beast Defense but don’t realize how many gauges and buffs he nerfs lol
my ultra ssj2 5 star actually did good damage he can stack up even more damage than g4 for example so beast det helped him i have him at 9 slash 8
I'm mean putting ssj 3 goku 7/8 is wild
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Ultra Gohan actually hurts Beast because his Z ability is trash and he holds 2 blast cards. Armor break is nice and all, but it's not needed. I think LL Trunks (holds 2 strike cards) is a much better 3rd option to run along side Beast.
i agree with this majin is too much ale beast is right there like.. thats why you run both of them xd
Beast is gonna fall off hard. Sbc is not gonna one shot, the damage is going to fall off with time. He just does not have enough defense to hold on for long its just pure damage currently and damage aint gonna take him that far.
Ain't no way bro said bg is going to fall of hard. It's true he is kinda squishy, but his disrupt utility, and a free snipe is going to make him last longer
How goes cut pen fall off?
@zkaiwho6081 the free snipe ain't gonna be snipe for long the damage on it is going to fall off eventually. Disrupt is good for those long vb combos but not that much of a threat.
@@Burner135 cut pen doesn't guarantee a one shot kill.
@@zkaiwho6081people said the same thing with UG4. the dude cant one shot of a green unit atp
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bro where is LF Super Vegeta 😢
Amazing video
(I just started)
Alright lets debate. I have beast at number 1. And i think he will age way WORSE than UMV. What do you guys think?
Well yes but ssj 3 Goku can get disrupted easily still from UMV’s counter and also from defensive gauges like treeku soh trunks or rosé also mv not killing most of the time in my experience just because of buff cancellation beast also has an aoe ultimate not that big of a deal but special beam cannon’s buffs can’t be cancelled like let’s say u run up against a team like beast Gohan and TVB majin vegeta is helpless if majin vegeta is fighting beast he can’t combo long and he can’t ult beast he isn’t immune to disrupts beast himself is also immune to arts cost increase in the ssj 2 state goku just sucks he’s barely got cover null I actually think goresh’s list is pretty accurate
Only people who think beast is number 1 are slaty people who didn't pull umv. There's literally no argument to make for beast being number 1. Don't know why these guys think umv is some 1 dimensional unit who relies on ult to get the job done. UMV is undisputed number 1
Who cares who is no. 1? These mofos run Beast on Buu saga. Cancer.
I just don’t see how someone can put Beast above UMV. Yeah the SBC exists but UMV has so much more that makes him more difficult to deal with.
What Goresh about Beast stopping UMV to snipe is not true vs any non endurance character. It happened to me so many times with VB. I let him to try to get the heal but MV comes in, 1 card then ult and I lose my VB.
Yeah Vegeta can still snipe pretty much everyone Lol I think he's just waffling and He probably biased too if I'm being honest
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@@AloviyaYeah I think he’s a little biased. Many of what he said can be countered.
@ How about giving some actual arguments ?
Majin vegeta is not sniping anyone. His ultimate can be easily nerfed by beast or by other character that remover buffs.
He doesn't one shot:
Beast
Vegito
Gotenks
Himself
Turles
Ssj3 goku
Daimaku
Goku black
While beast can one shot all of them.
Youre just saying this because mv is more toxic,
Majin vegeta by far the best 👌
Youre just biased and hate gohans
Or you’re biased and glaze Gohan
@@rick3590yea lmaoooo cause Gohan not #1
Goresh is just biased towards Beast Gohan.
Sadly we live in a world where people have their own opinions
@inf3rnious and that's okay.
The reason why the amateurs in this comment section think beast is no.1 is because they didn't pull for UMV and then they pulled for UBG,so they think their new shiny toy is better than everything else in the game,UMV just does more than beast
UMV users are nearly as a toxic as him
@@hello3262 Git Gud lil pup
i literally run both MV and beast and i think beast is no.1 on higher ranks
Beast is not.1 I've said it before he's very star dependent At 14* Fine. But lower stars he's just not effective his special beam and His Gauge relying him being tanky He just can't tank at lower stars to be no .1
no unit tanks at lower stars
goresh said every units in his tier list are 14 stars from the intro
Imo they are very 1a.) 1b.). There is not going to be a lot of separation between them, when the best team in the game, at least in my opinion, includes them both, whether you have the third slot be a defensive movies base with Turles or an offensive Buu Saga base with Gotenks and vice versa. MV and UBG both benefit each other to an extent that evens the gap between them.
One brings arguably the best rush deterrent we have in this game and the other brings arguably the best combo stop potential in the game along with both of them having the best snipe potential in the game, miles better than most other units.
I personally have Beast above MV, only because he is better for the game's health than MV is, in terms of kit it could really go either way, as they are *that* even.
@@Ethan-San_x Uh, if you read the comment instead of going based on assumptions, I legit say that I put Beast over MV. In terms of kit I think they are rather even and could go either or, but I find Beast to be number 1 because he is healthier for the game and what ultras *should* be.
@tacodyrwhat that doesn’t make sense i thought listings was based off how powerful a character is not how balanced they are 💀 your whole comment is contradictory
@@iownstaticz8687 Imo purely basing a list on power alone will just ruin the game. Do you want units to be toxic, unfair and game breaking, making the game unfun? That's the kind of units you'll get with power as the only focus. I have Beast above UMV because he's healthier for the game while UMV is unhealthy for the game.
If you read the comment clearer you'll see that I mention that in terms of power alone they are (imo) even and can be swapped around in listings. What helps them more is that they are both a part of the best team in the game.
This why I've never cared for goresh tier list he's a clown saying beast is 1😂
Watch your mouth
Calling someone a clown because they’re entitled to their own opinion really shows your level of maturity.