Syphilis - The Killer Cure - Extra History - Part 2
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- 💉 History of Syphilis: The Killer Cure - Ho boy this one is rough. Syphilis was not an untreatable disease but sometimes the cure could be worse. Malaria was used to burn out the disease from patients, but the patients this was tried on were often in the late stages of the disease, which left them paralyzed, mentally ill, and unable to consent to the experiment. Advancements in sexual health were made thanks to Ettie Rout, including widespread condom use in the army (hiding condoms as "barrel protectors"). And through the work of Sahachiiro and Paul Erlich, a magic bullet appears. But we also saw one of the world's most unethical studies, one that would radically change how we approach medical science forever: The Tuskegee Study or The Tuskegee Experiment.
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I remember my grandad saying that condoms were so widely available in his unit that they had competitions of what was the most ludicrous thing you could fit a condom over. After a soldier reported to the medic after having being bitten by a snake after trying to “give it a raincoat” the CO put an end to it.
That is hilarious!
That's fucking hilarious
That is gold!
great job you made it to reddit www.reddit.com/r/BrandNewSentence/comments/imfqf7/giving_the_snake_a_raincoat/
Alexander Small These are not things children are told
“Austrian doctor, human experimentation, high death rates... this guy became a nazi didn’t he?”
It’s absolutely horrific but that give me a giggle.
ditto 😔✊
Doesn’t help that Zoe answers the question by holding up a sign that says “Yup” (mrrrow)
that there's some of that DARK humor, son!
tree bark condom XD
Trust me. That isn't dark. Not compared to the humor here in Britain
ACME proudly presents: The *Barrel Cover* - _"Because our boys in the trenches ain't shooting blanks"_
That's genius! Hahaha
Yes, I wanna see that on a poster.
You think there would be a SNAFU cartoon with that joke...
*Im crying I can’t XD XD XD*
you mean our *SEAMEN* aren't shooting blanks :P
"Barrel covers" is a God-tier euphemism.
Nice
Nice
The Military have such a knack to come with dick jokes and euphemisms that you'd think it's taught in the academies...
The US marines did use them for amphibious landings to keep sand out of their rifles.
Allegedly, even to this day, there is an unlubed condom in military pilot's survival kit. For water collection, and "other purposes".
Unit commander: "NO CONDOMS that's inmoral"
Soldiers: "No, you see, this is a protection for OUR RIFLES"
commander:"oh ok, then you should practice with them"
Soldiers: "Oh we will...practice"
I'm guessing these are the same officers who refused to issue parachutes to air crews, because they thought it would encourage cowardice
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That set of priorities still rears its head today. When a rating board rates a movie with a sex scene for an 18+ rating, while Rambo's and James Bond's killing sprees get PG13. Or when the same parents who rail against sex education in school think letting their kids practice with guns is good parenting.
Captain Sobel: This man had over one hundred prophylactic kits in his footlocker! How was he going to have the strength to fight!?
Um, how the hell does a 6 months study go on for 40 years, and how did a University end up with the power to tell **the army** not to treat them!?
Racism
Political connections.
GarlicPudding I guess lol...
They must’ve had someone funding them
the answer is D: All of the above.
They said they *convinced* the army to do so, not order. That means they didn't have any hard power other then various forms of asking nicely. But you know, wearing a lab coat and having neat titles never hurt.
"Austrian doctor, human experimentation, high death rates"
*Wait, I see where this is going.*
ANGEL OF DEATH
yeah... and that american human experimentation with high death rates was not fascist either.
"I love democracy"
-Some dude with a hoodie.
I was all, "Wait, this sounds familiar."
Mengele wasn't a medical doctor, he was an anthropologist. He wasn't even a good anthropologist.
"Austrian doctor, human experimentation, high death rate"
Me: Hey I've seen this one before, it's a classic
yet still he was rejected by the NSDAP
ah yes its a ~~Nazi~~ esteemed pro US expert in the field
Guys it was a joke, no need to defend someone who committed crimes against humanity.
*meow*
- Zoey
What do you mean it's a classic it's brand new
Personally, I'm of the opinion that everyone involved in the Tuskegee Experiment except the guy that blew the whistle should have been found guilty of a count of negligent homicide for each person that died, and reckless endangerment for everyone that survived. Lock their asses up in prison as the mass murderers they are.
Tree bark condoms: Give her a night she'll never forget, or recover from.
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It can only be used once T&C's apply we here at Self Harm With Trees™ are not responsible for any damage to reproductive organs
This comment is charming as it is horrific.... You thread the line well
every splinter will remind her of you
🤣
Thanks for mentioning the 40 year Tuskegee syphilis experiment. I remember learning about that experiment in college during a medical ethics class and getting immediately upset that minorities were so mistreated in the medical world. I was one of the few minority students in the class and it was frustrating trying explain why such experiments back then have encouraged blacks and other minority groups to not trust their doctors.
Yeah, the Tuskeegee experiment was heinous, almost as bad as what we did to the Marshallese after we nuked their INHABITED islands 53 times and then spent 40 years watching them be exposed to hard fallout radiation just to see what it would do, despite us already knowing full well the danger of it.
*in the united states*
Oh well... We can't change the past. That's that. We have the future to change, so let's make that brighter and with more flowers, ey?
All jokes aside, seriously, let's NOT have a repeat of this garbage. We know better now, so let's use what we can and avoid this. Maybe do these unethical tests on clones or something.
@@theironsword1954 You might want to watch The Clonus Horror. A clone is a twin sibling with a different birthday, not an empty shell.
@@rosentrantz0 hm, this is tough, how do we test the effects
@@thearmyofiron We test the effects of radiation that wasn’t intentionally given to the patients for the purpose of the study. Or, perhaps more simply, WE DON’T!
Good to see an accurate account of the evil of Tuskegee instead of the fictional evil that is in popular culture
Well Said, 😔
Wait 8 Hours How
@@Deathstar-vh8lu Patreon subscriber
Vanguard OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THATS how
Today they give them to the cops. They make the job quicker
I have so many questions about the tree bark condoms.
So many!
You don't want to know.
To avoid a baby your pp has to feel pain
Bark up.
Just don't
Syphilis: causes scaring purple blobs and kills people and causes breakups
People: *FLOWERS*
That is true
@@bluecup1129 Nonsense, you're never too young to learn. Just make sure you actually remember and apply the information when the time comes.
That, and maybe have an adult nearby, just in case.
"That if you're sexually active..."
To quote our lord Shrek,
"Like that'll ever happen!"
Yas
oof!
XD
Bruh
And just like our Lord Shrek, it will happen eventually.
Speaking of syphilis and penicillin, if you’re familiar with the antibiotic resistance crisis, note that syphilis is AFAIK pretty much the only disease that can still be treated with penicillin nowadays.
That's not true. Most infections are still treatable with penicillin. The problem is the speed at which some infections can kill you means that by the time doctors realize you're one of the 20% that has a resistant strain, you can be in big big trouble medically.
Building on what the person above me said, we also have more easily synthesized, more widely useful, and less allergy-prone antibiotics like amoxycilin.
depends on the disease and strain. like sure MRSA and VRSA are resistant, but some strains of Staph are still vulnerable to penicillin.
doctor: "do you want the good news or the bad newss first?"
patient: "the good news?"
doctor: "i cured your syphilus"
patient: "hooray! what's the bad news?"
doctor: "you have malaria."
"But it's ok, we'll cure the malaria by giving you cholera"
We cured your malaria, but now you got cholera
@hi there small pox? Anyone need a free sample of small pox by chance?
@@Swingingbells "Oh, don't worry, then we'll cure your cholera by giving you Bubonic Plague."
@@Swingingbells You know. If you don't have a method of curing one disease safely but can cure it by giving another disease and you can do the same with another disease. Then you just continue this chain until you get to something you can cure it would be a totally valid treatment.
syphilis : *kills people *
This enraged the doctors, who punished him severely
"We've got a cure, only problem is that it's literally poison and there's no evidence it'll actually cure you"
"....D'OOOOOH NO"
Oversimplified, yes?
That intro... my god that was the most blunt and fastest escalation of horrible things ever.
I absolutely love the characterization of penicillin as John Wick
It really is... that compound is absolutely merciless
I believe that the artwork is getting more and more serious, showing the harsh reality of the more recent episodes. I don't know if this is you intention or if I'm reading to much into this but either way great job.
I love when history gets serious. Really shows how we progressed throughout though times
I think it's just because they are working on many topics at the same time, with different animators working on different video topics. Look at the latest videos about the 3rd century crisis or their extra mythology series, they still use the "regular" style there.
@@navetal not that the one doing this video (and more commonly in others like Extra Mythology or literature) is any bad at conveying the subject matter, but I feel the other one is much better and detailed.
Might be a different artist. This videos art style reminds me of the art in the extra sci-fi videos
@Haven’t found Dad yet Though, while it’s fun to pat ourselves on the back, we shouldn’t forget that many of these historical problems aren’t actually a thing of the past. There are plenty of issues that carry on to this day and it’s easy to forget that with the way history lessons become disconnected the closer they are to present day.
For example it’s easy to forget that America is still in the midst of combatting our long history of systematic racism even now, and often times the younger generations have been poorly informed about the extent of things and how they’ve persisted even now
it never ceases to amaze me the achievements of the Cuban health system.
Imagine if their small island wasn't under embargo by the US or if every other country trained as many doctors as them
Yeah, but their doctors are paid less than taxi drivers
@@nadie8093 goes to show that you don't need a profit incentive to provide world class medical care
@@alejandrorivas4585 world class? Cuban healthcare is a mess
@@nadie8093 yeahm the best of the world it seems
The Tuskeege study is in the same league with Mengele and Unit 731. Horror.
It truly is. The Nuremberg Rules and the Tuskegee study are what all bioethics rules are based on. They can be summed up as “don’t do what these guys did.” Seriously, look at all the rules for bioethics and you can point out where the Tuskegee study failed. Informed consent, protecting patients, the ability to opt out, stopping the study once a new effective treatment is available (like if they find out the drug they’re testing works amazingly, they stop and let everyone in the placebo group and treatment group get access to it), confidentiality, etc.
What's worse is that step one is at least inventing basic rules in the first place.
Step two is finding dystopian situations where you still want to protect innocent people with the rules but you find people you don't want to treat as nicely because they are a little more dangerous.
How do you manipulate bad guys and protect good guys at the same time?
Who decides who gets rights and who doesn't?
Yay nightmare dystopia!
If you guess wrong, you repeat the original crime only this time you knew better.
If you give all bad guys all rights willy nilly they will run circles around you and then what was the point of rule of law in the first place?
The next rules we need to work out are defining when it's okay to remove the protection of rights from people in a way that more than 90% of people agree is a fair line to not cross. Starting from the top, who do we punish first and when do we stop?
It's Kobayashi Maru.
We're guaranteed to keep committing crimes against humanity because in pursuit of bad guys some innocent will take the fall and get hell.
We could try to minimize the damage as much as possible though.
“I use the disease to destroy the disease”
I remember a few years ago about an experimental treatment for cancer using a modified form of the virus responsible for herpes that would supposedly only attack cancerous cells.
Love how they explained in depth the Tuskegee experiments
"Treatments are cheap and affordable." Not in America, my dudes.
a treatment for anything might as well cost you an arm and a leg- which will require your other arm and leg to treat your amputated arm(s) and leg(s)
Cheap and affordable for insurance companies then.
are you impliying that is cheaper to treat in mexico than in the United States??
@@attiepollard7847 No, it's because you have a first-world country with a third-world health care system. Where I live, we have such a robust health care system that both times I thought I'd fractured my wrist, I was in and out of a public hospital within 4 hours (first time inside 2 hours), with nurse and doctor checks, x-rays, bandages, sling, and painkillers. Do you know what it cost me? $4 for a bus ride to the hospital and $4 back. Nothing else cost me a cent.
@@Mitaka.Kotsuka it generally is cheaper to fly to mexico, buy treatment, and fly back than it is to pay for the inflated prices in the usa
"Austrian doctor, human experimentation, high death rates"
I don't like where this is going
I love how someone just put a sausage casing on a human eggplant as a response to syphilis
You can still get it
I mean... if you know bodily fluid transfer spreads it, it makes sense.
“Austrian doctor, human experimentation, high death rate”
OH CRAP
4:13 The commonwealth for sure was not very progressive in dealing with sex ed back then. In 1940 during the battle of France the UK almost fired a commander from his post because he proposed sex ed for soldiers and to provide them condoms.
The british commander was a chap named Montgomery if you are curious.
That is so Montgomery he was very focused on the soldiers health and hygiene in Africa.
I know this isn’t the main discussion of the video but I still think that this is worth mentioning. One of the last frames of the episode is that of the closed door implying sexual conduct. What I really appreciate is that there was an effort to put lgbtq+ symbols. So often it seems that lgbtq+ people are left out of the conversation when it comes to sexual health in general, especially in the public education system. So I personally appreciate you using your platform to be a force for good and inclusivity. Keep up the AMAZING work. 😃
Yes! Absolutely!
Penicillin is also deadly to some people, ask me how I know. After receiving a free heart attack at age 7 after an accident. Yup Antibiotics are fantastic when they work but some people have deadly allergic reactions to them, Now we have idiots using them when there not needed have rendered them ineffectual for stuff like flesh-eating bacteria. So another horror we need help combating...
The fantastic video is informative with real humour but gets a difficult conversation across. So just wanted to remind people all drugs can have side effects and even the best drug can have bad consequences if misused!
I don't know about virophages having bad consequences, since... It's essentially a catch 22 for the bacteria. Either you evolve for antibiotic resistance, or you evolve to not be annihilated by virophages, but as far as we've observed, it's impossible for both to occur. Plus, virophages are viruses that are so fine tuned to one bacterial family(or often times, just one bacteria), so they can't affect how the human body as far as I'm aware, but if all of this turns out true, talk about a savior.
Dude, “barrel covers” is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day.
They should've said at the end "..and never use the pull-out method, ever."
don't smash n dash
smash and then pass (the baby)
Penicillin is john wick and John wick never dies
Until an antibiotic resistant strain develops.
John wick never came up against ORSA/MRSA
Antibiotic immunity goes BRRR
@@asnekboi7232 Bacteriophage development go brrrr
Riiiiiiight....
Stories like these don’t scare me from my nonexistent sex life, but they do make me thankful I’ll never do it of my own volition. Can’t contract any syphilis if you’ve never had sex!
when you're allergic to penicillin. probably the greatest invention of the whole 20 century. i love my life
Doctor's consent is a new idea, that became mainstream in the 1960s
Well around 5:30 or so, the video gets sick. knew about it as a History BA guy but always gets me, every single time.
Glad to hear that the tusky thing study is admitted to in vids for future generations.
Thanks Zöe.
1:50 wait, tree bark condoms, talk about having wood
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I can actually see your videos being played in classrooms nationwide. You’re so entertaining and detailed
I get wayyyyy too excited when I get a notification that Extra uploaded something. Love you guys
"To the shock of *NO ONE*"
1:55 3 men agonising over tree bark condoms. I'd think it'd be even more horrifying for women.
We need more of these series!!! Thank you extra credit!
🙏
The artist who made the drawings of this video should be the author of every video you made from now on! they are superb!
On the topic of Syphilis, how about an episode or series about Al Capone, or just the prohibition and gang culture that followed it in general?
Go to Oversimplified’s channel he just did a episode on prohibition
"In fact some soldiers intentionally transmitted infections among each other."
Me: Wait a damn minute...
5:04 Why did I love this Keanu so mutch?
Cause he's breathtaking
@@harrisonlee9585 You are breathtaking!
Unity you too!
This is the cutest possible way you can animate this history
0:47 Cat: Yup
Well that made my day.
Extra History: Penicillin kills syphilis
Me: Dang it! I’m allergic! Can’t catch syphilis!
I was just starting Resident Evil 8 as this video was ending. That close out music made sliding down a snowy bank way more fun.
As always, an informative and entertaining video!
"Roses are red"
"Violets are blue
"As long as Extra Credits upload"
"He gets a view
There is an important lesson in this, when there is darkness in the past we must learn from it and change the future. It doesn't make what happened right but it makes the world we live in now better.
Thank y’all so much for this !!!
May I sugest a series about HTLV?
Is highly ignored, but today is the major cause of rejection of blood bags in Rio de Janeiro (Brazil).
I never saw anything about the virus in media.
It can become realy big in the next years worldwide.
You need to do a series on the Tuskegee experiment
that opening though XD "to the shock of no one!" my god why do I find that so funny?
Thank you for another wonderful video, and for videos on less known but fascinating historical events. =3 The cat is cute as well! =3
Lowkey one if the best intros yet
Doctors: we have created an effective and affordable cure for this disease! Now we can cure everyone!
Scientists: ok, but what if we didn’t
4:39 well, in fairness, it was used as waterproof containers even during ww2.
Im glad you did your research about salvarsan
Extra credits done did it again !!!! I did not Lear about the Tuskegee until sophomore year of college
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Yeah he fills out the check board,wait hold on let me check...yep,all he's missing is an army and then thats him
I now understand why the experienced soldiers in war movies laugh at the new guy for putting the condom at the end of his barrel.
Good god! How have I never heard of the Tuskegee study!
Honestly using them as barrel covers against rain makes sense. A waterlogged gun is a club by that point.
I could imagine someone actually used them for that.
The Tuskegee study is why I'm scared to see a doctor. I'm only 18 but I'm scared to be infected by anything.
The Tuskegee experiment sounds like an attempted genocide
If you use genocide to describe anything, it will become meaningless. All unethical medical experiments are done to people, in the eyes of the perpetrators, subhumans.
For a genocide done by US look no further than The Trail of Tears.
this is a very dense comment lmao
Genocide means the extermination of a race in an area, so it wasn't that.
I mean..... no? I feel like we can condemn monstrous shit like that without calling it genocide. If that group of 200 or so men could be considered an entire ethnic group by themselves maybe...
Not quite. 600 out of a group of millions is far from a genocide. I don’t say this to downplay the horror of what they did tho, it was absolutely despicable.
You guys are just the Best.
Awe love the hearts at the end.
Act 1: things are getting awesome! I love science!
Act 2: ew medical science
Act 3: awesome! We should always learn but also Be ethical.
"Austrian Doctor, Human Experimentation, High Death Rates.
This guy became a Nazi didn't he?
Yes"
*I laughed a lot harder than I should have.*
The thing about putting condoms over the rifle muzzle is no joke. One of my best friends in college is an US Army officer who fought in Iraq and he was always asking for boxes of condoms.
Thx. I will show this in class!
I'd just like subtitles for my Deaf butt to enjoy this too.
Shout out to Aussies these checks ARE FREE!!! I had an *ahem* infection that made me think it was an STI, luckly wasn't, I brought it up with my Dr who put me on antibiotics and got me tested. The highest cost was the antibiotics which came to $6.50 the Dr visit and pathology test were free. If you even think that you might have something talk to your Dr!!
Yes, in the US, your local health department will have free STI tests even if you don’t have insurance. And confidentiality is law. Please don’t wallow in willful ignorance! Get tested!
Did not expect this to go that way
The barrel cover idea is actually a pretty good one, when you think about it.
Now you got me picturing these abstract bean people getting busy in the bedrooms...
Extra History: "We used to use tree bark to make condoms."
Holup
Hope to see more of your work, keep going till the end of youtube
0:44 Glad to see we are all on the same page...
Laughed so hard at “this guy became a nazi, didn’t he?”
Tuskegee was the same damn thing.
1:32
THIS MAN HAS A SERIOUS CASE
OF MONSTER SCHLONG
Thank you for including two women at the very end. There are a fair few peeps in the wlw community who aren't even aware of STD dangers because of the rumour that women can't spread STD's to other women
Yikes. I'd known something terrible had happened in Tuskegee but never looked it up. Just...yikes.
0:45 "Never trust the Austrians"
There's a reason for the Kleindeutsche Lösung
"Anyvay... that's how I lost my medikal licenze."
Blake 81 hahaha
Blake 81 “Letz go praktice medizine.”
-GET TO THE CHOPPA-
I would like to have a lengthy and informed discussion with the 121 people who dislike this video to find out why?
Probably Tuskegee deny-ers
p cool of you to use your platform to warn about STI's. very well done.
Great video, as always.
"Penicillin: probably the greatest invention of the twentieth century!"
Uhh, computers.
Though, I wouldn't say computers are a "greater" invention than Penicillin... They can't really be compared.
Let's settle on greatest XXth century invention _in medicine_ and _in technology_ , respectively.
20th century in general was very innovative. Kind of a hard task to find one particular invention that was better than the rest
Penicillin is the beginning of modern medicine. How the world went from 1.8 billion in 1920's to almost 8 billion today, an average life expectancy of 58 years to almost 80 today, the discovery of anti biotics well exceed the invention of doing math faster, which is all a computer does. It isn't even comparable.
Extra history after 60 years:Make a Video about covid 19 pandemic.
5 am just to watch this, worth it
US Commander: "Alright fellas, looks a bit marshy over there, lets put on our barrel covers."
US Soldier: "yea, we ran out."
US Commander: "What do you mean? We issued 20 to each man just last week? I havent had to use a single one of mine throughout our whole deployment."