Amazing Effect When You Put a Whirlpool in a Vacuum Chamber
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In this video we test what happens to a whirlpool when you put it in a vacuum chamber. I show you how a whirlpool forms and then I test if this would still work in a vacuum chamber the results are very interesting!
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As some have pointed out there is definitely more going on here than just air pressure. In fact you cannot talk about any fluid flow with only talking about pressure. You have to always talk about fluid velocity and pressure together. We do know there is the centrifugal effect of water being thrown out the sides and also down the middle. But the reason there is ever any flow at all is due to pressure differences. The ball is being dragged down by the water but it is also moving fast and so the atmosphere pushes it down as well. There is also rarified air and eater vapor that forms under the ball pushing it up (maybe). This is definitely a phenomenon that I have never seen before in any literature so if anyone has any resources are open to hear more about this.
But isn't pressure in a fluid inversely proportional to its velocity? Shouldn't there be more pressure in the centre, where the fluid is at its slowest?
A.k.a.: imho, the ball doesn't sink because there is less pressure in the centre rather than on the sides, although that could explain that anyway through a reduction in Archimede's force due to the lowered pressure
Also, I don't think atmospheric pressure has anything to do with it, because once it is underwater it can't affect it, but I haven't seen the full video yet. Might cancel the comment.
Edit: I was wrong, atmospheric pressure plays a role, but I still don't think it works like you said. When it's completely sunk there is no way for the air to push it down, since it doesn't make any contact with it.
Also if there isn't a hole in the ball, is there air pressure in the ball that stays the same and could that potentially lead to it rising as well?
@@Anankin12 have you learned physics? In what class are you?
I thought the ball would go down for the same reason your helium balloon goes in front of the car when you drive. eg the water is heavier than the ball and will move toward the wall faster than the ball who get pushed center. With less force pushing the ball upward the ball sink. As for the ball going up I agree with other comments about water vapor since your other videos shows that water boils at that pressure. For the same centropic reason the vapor is also pushed toward the center under the ball.
The type of 'spinner' you used has a serious effect on this experiment. The agitator at the bottom, is in effect, a sort of centrifugal pump. Water is constantly being flung outward at the bottom, then forced up the walls of the container and flowing back in toward the center (all with considerable tangential flow as well). (this is why this type of 'mixer' is so often used, it circulates the fluid both tangentially around the container, but also radially outward, upward, and back down in the center)
This downflow in the exact center, IMHO, is what drags the ball below the surface. After all, when the ball is completely submerged, the air isn't acting on the ball at all. As others have pointed out, as the water spins around it also has centrifugal forces acting on it, so the surface of the water is always perpendicular to the combined centrifugal/ gravitational forces acting on it.
It would be very enlightening to use a different mechanism to 'spin' the water. For example, remove the agitator and spin the entire beaker. With all the water spinning at the same RPM, you would not set up the same internal flow pattern. The water at the bottom would not be 'pushed' outward to the walls of the beaker any more than any other water, so there should not be any 'vertical' circulation. Edit: Without this, I predict the water will form a parabola, but the ball will not be 'sucked/pushed' under the surface (much like you saw it under the high vacuum condition).
"spin the entire beaker... I predict the water will form a vortex in the middle" - it won't create a vortex funnel. It will form a concave parabolic surface. Like liquid mirror telescopes.
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@@col0342 would you care to elaborate that for me please?
I think your explanation with the centrifugal force makes more sense; isn't the pressure what causes the water flow not otherwise?
@@sangnguyentan1911 I believe he's referring to the shape the water surface would form if you spin the entire beaker as I suggested.
Near the very center, with centrifugal force very low and gravity, the shape of the surface would be nearly a flat plane. Only as the radius increases does the centrifugal force become significant and then the surface curves upward.
This is exactly how a mirror for a reflector telescope is started. The final shape has to be ground precisely, but the basic concave shape is formed by 'spinning' the glass while still molten.
Alternative explanation: the "air pocket" at bottom (under vac) is actually boiling water.
Yeah thats what i was thinking.
Also, im intuitively thinking it is the water flow that submerges the ball.
I think you're right. The water boils and dissolved gasses come out of solution where the pressure is lowest in the center of the vortex.
Consider repeating this with very cold water and see if the lower vapor pressure makes a difference. Or measure the temperature after doing this experiment with warm water. The evaporation/boiling may have already chilled the water by the end of the experiment.
Or repeat it with a fluid that won't boil. (Something with a very low vapor pressure.) That's all I have for now.
@@davidaustin3272 All good thoughts! Have I met a fellow chemist?
You would need to also do the test with starting the whirlpool after the vacuum reaches least pressure for this to cover all the bases.
I swear one of those droplets of water hit my face when he was blowing the straw, so weird...
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That is usually an effect people get
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As a college graduate in physics from 101-499, I didn't even expect this... I anticipated that no matter how low you drop the atmospheric pressure outside, the pressure will always be lower once the water starts spinning, there for keeping the ball at the bottom... Where did my calculations go wrong? I'm confused... Lol But anyways, no matter what I have learned in my lifetime, I always seem to learn something new on this channel! Keep up the good work!
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@@TheActionLab i think it was floating a bit because the air was getting pulled from the water so that force kept it up is what i think instead you should drop the Ball after a vacuum
very cool
Atmospheric pressure, Vortex, Effect of air movement
all covered in just 1 short video... Awesome!
As has already been pointed out - Water boils under vacuum. The cooler the water is, the lower the atmospheric pressure needs to be to reach the boiling point. With a low enough pressure, tap water will boil at room temperature. Yes, that's a Fact!.
If you place the ball on still water and then pull a vacuum, the water will boil all around the ball like a pan of water on the stove, only the water will NOT be hot to the touch. As the air is evacuated from the chamber water will reach a point at which it boils. Right after this, the vacuum gauge will stabilize and stop dropping until all the water is gone, then it will drop to whatever level your pump is capable of pulling on your vacuum chamber.
In your experiment, the "air pocket" that formed under the ball while rotating the water is the water's gaseous state trying to reach the surface. This action creates a lifting force. The bubble formes in the middle of the vortex since this is the water's lowest pressure point.
Going a little off subject. Something else interesting about water is it has a "triple point". That is the temperature and pressure at which the three phases (gas, liquid, and solid) can coexist in thermodynamic equilibrium. Under the correct circumstances, water can turn directly from ice (a solid) to gas without first becoming a liquid.
Waauw Action Lab. You invented a simpel physics-setup that causes discussion among physicists! I envy you! I have my doubts about your explanation, but I cannot come up with a better one (yet).
Each of these videos is worthy of a 10th grade science assignment. I sourced and got inspiration for one of my assignments in the action lab video about heating up water by blending/stirring it. I conducted my own experiments and ended up getting full marks. Thanks for the effort and information put into these videos.
not sure if you meant that as praise or as an insult.
Lmao, I really thought you were roasting him.
Note that a mag stir plate is a centrifugal pump. Drip in some plastic powder, or some dye! The flow is down the axis, radially across the bottom, then up the glass walls. (But, what if the water is boiling at room temperature? Instead try ice-cold, well-degassed water.)
Man you constantly come up with original and interesting experiments. Happy to say this is not some pop science channel. Your really teaching lots of people obscure and interesting science.
2:00 I'm just gonna add that centrifugal force is pulling the water outward causing a toroidal shaped circulating system. A vertical cross-section thru the centerline would show the flow directions to be clockwise on the left and counter-clockwise on the right side. That is why the water level rises when the spin starts. Oh, a little addition here. Forget air pressure. Gravity is pulling the ball down. Air pressure is a function of gravity. Low vacuum causing vaporization of water beneath the ball with cavitation. Water vapor evaporated off the water at low pressure is accumulating under the ball and creating a small pressure to move the ball up. All great videos.
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Great experiment! Overall air pressure has no direct effect on the ball - it pushes it down (via water) as much as it pushes it up. But the lower pressure allows building of steam- bubbles. They gather in the middle where the pressure is low and they build eventually a vapor column that wants to go up and pushes up the ball. It would be interesting to see the experiment with slightly warmer or colder water...
Better do it with some liquid with low vapor pressure, like mineral oil.
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Yes this one had some hold ups. They should be timely from here every three months...glad you liked it!
That little experiment that you did with the straws also illustrates how carburetors work. As intake air flows at extremely high velocities into the barrel and through the venturi, it has extremely low pressure that sucks fuel out of the float bowl and into the intake to join the air rushing into the engine.
Carburetors aren't used on cars anymore; they're exclusively fuel-injected now. But carburetors are still extremely common on GA aircraft, particularly those powered by Continental or Lycoming motors.
In the normal pressure part, is it really the pressure from the air that sinks the ball, or the fact that the moving water is moving faster below the ball than above ? Perhaps the high-pressure experiment will tell. In the low pressure experiment, the air vortex below is likely to be vacuum, and the ball seems to be just floating on the walls of the vortex. These are my hypotheses.
Agree. The velocity of the water below is faster than that above the ball, producing a downward force due to the pressure difference(in addition to the original pressure difference).
The ball is floating on the walls of the vortex.
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One thing I must offer up in this one is, in the first case, it actually sinks for two reasons. First, centrifugal force and buoyancy act outward instead of downward as with gravity only. Second, the mixer is a turbine. It's pumping, sucking the water down from the centre (where the ping-pong ball is) and throwing it outward and up the beaker walls.
A common statement of Bernoulli's principle, the well established concept that a fast moving fluid is simply at lower pressure than anywhere downstream, is false. The common diagram of two large pipes connected by a smaller straight section of pipe, with a manometer connected midway in each section, showing reduced pressure at different points, may indeed work as depicted, but it is an incorrect way to measure pressure in a moving stream.
The reason for the above is because of the effect of the boundary created by the measuring tube. The same effect is created by the trailing edge of a venturi, tending toward the suction which causes gas or droplet entrainment.
The correct way to measure pressure would be to have a pressure transducer surface flush and nearly indistinguishable from the interior surface of the passage it is measuring. This way there is no disturbance to the flow, and so the pressure measurement would prove independent of flow.
The diagram depicted above, applied to a venturi, with or without the correction last stated, would work as depicted because the measuring location is at a *_change_* of flow shape/velocity.
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Experiment starts at 4:15
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The air in the ball? Does it escape when the vacuum is applied? Doesn’t look like it. Removing all the air in the chamber yet the ball still contains air. Curious if it raised the balls buoyancy and thus not allowing it to sink.
"When water moves it creates a low pressure. This is because when water moves it creates a low pressure. We know this because when water moves it creates a low pressure. The pressure is low because the water is moving. When the water is not moving the pressure is not low. Blowing on this straw double proves everything i just said. Blowing on this clear straw triple proves it."
question officially begged!
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Perhaps the easiest to grasp explanation of what forces are actually at work there.
@@andriyshapovalov8886 -- Sounds more like calling out the circular argument.
@@willi-fg2dh wow. no one else is supposed to know begging the question is misused by almost everyone.
@@willi-fg2dh you are drunk 😵
That was so unexpected.
i disagree with you conclusion: the ball goes down because of the water flow.
when you reduce the pressure you boil the water and the tendency is the densest fluid go outward. this, then, creates a zone with water vapour instead of water, having less thrust downward.
think of the stirrer as a pump that sends water from the bottom back to the top and you will understand.
when the water vaporizes the pump starts to 'cavitate' and the total flow is reduced.
this only happened because the vortex widened at the bottom. with a taller vessel or wider ball or a fluid that wouldnt evaporate at this low pressure (some polimer maybe?) you wouldnt see this effect.
a test you can make to prove this is to fill the vessel to the brim with water and seal it. there is no air pressure and the ball will go down because of the 'convectional' water flow.
you could even make a hole in the top of the lid and vacuum it and as far as there is no significant amount of water evaporated to start forming a cone the ball will stay down.
I totally agree with what you are saying his whole experiment just doesn't completely make sense to my
Even I completely agree with you. For some reason I couldn't agree with the explanation even after showing a practical. I too think it's just the water flow and not the air pressure causing the ball raise
Agreed. Maybe he could try it without the ball? The shape of the dip did absolutely nothing until the water started to boil. Doesn't that need an explanation?
Or try it with a piece of polystyrene with plenty of holes drilled through, to let the steam escape.
and, watching again i noticed another point: the 'air' beneath the ball is not air but water vapour that accumulated down there because the ball diverts the downward water flow from getting in the center of the spinner. bellow and above the ball where are gases (the 'inner cone') the pressure will be the same (a pressure low enough to evaporate water) . in the wet part of the ball are where the forces happens: buoyance and drag find equilibrium with that 'amount' of ball.
the cone does not form by air pressure. it forms by inertia of the fluid climbing up the walls by the "velocity/energy" imparted unto it by the impeller, centrifuge forces and all that.
by making the vessel closed at the top and filled to the brim you prove that: the water returns to the top and fills back the conical cavity without having the chance to climb.
to see the flow you could add some purpurin or other solid particles.
Rafael Ramos da Costa boiling is not an other process, The ball is locked. Maybe there is something more than pressure going on, but simply boiling will not do from my perspective.
I imagine this situation involves gravity, centripetal force, surface tension, and maybe viscosity. Plus vapor pressure when the vacuum gets high. (Those alone are enough to make it hard to figure out, too!) Atmospheric pressure only matters in that it pushes closed the vapor bubble at the bottom. I don't think higher pressure will change anything relative to atmospheric. But congrats on finding some unexpected behavior!
Right idea for the wrong reason: at lower pressure , the gas/water vapor bubbling out of the water will tend to collect under the ball. If that didn't happen, buoyancy would keep the ball where it was.
Hmmm...I don’t think you can attribute all of the air under the ball to dissolved air. It is not trapped under there like a plug. But I agree that this could be part of the mechanism. There is a lot going on here, there is water dragging the ball down due to no-slip condition at the surface of the ball. There is air/water vapor below the ball as you said probably pushing it up. There is air pressure above pushing the ball down that mostly goes away under vacuum. This is definitely interesting though
This is my idea too. I thought he will start the spinner under vacuum.
I have a hard time believing the air pressure could fully submerge the ball. The water would have to be less dense than the air in the ball.
I think it's the water flow. The vacuum allows the water to rise higher on the outside. With more water on the outside and no water in the center, the toroidal flow forcing the ball down is greatly reduced. Not only is the flow reduced, the surface are of the water contact is greatly reduced.
@Henrik Wallin But why is the water going down in the middle?
@@TheActionLab what temperature was the water and what pressure did the vortex under the ball start forming?
Personally, I don't think Bernoulli effect is important here. For one thing, though the water-surface in the whirl-funnel is moving sideways, it mostly drags the surface of the pingpong ball with it, then the relative speed between them is small, so Bernoulli suction would be very small too.
Drink everytime he says: "lower pressure."
I’d die from alcohol poisoning.
He really thinks low of his viewers with 100 rehashes in a video. “Lower pressure, ok guys you get it now? Lower pressurezzzz”
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And also what amount?
@@lukmly013 I think he thought drink drink
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Great experiment! I think the explanation needs some work, though.
If it's just the air pressure pushing the ball down, then how does the ball "know" about the air pressure when it is already underwater? The only way the air pressure should be able to "communicate" downward through the water is by changing the pressure at the surface, which would only increase the total pressure at every point below globally. For the ball to be pushed downward all the way, there would have to be a gradient in pressure decreasing from top to bottom, a reverse of the gradient that would be there from gravity alone (when there's no vortex).
So I think Joël Séguin's hypothesis is more likely - that air resistance friction slows down the vortex at the top, and those layers of slowed-down spinning water slow down the lower layers a bit less, creating a gradient in speed from top to bottom enough to allow Bernoulli's principle to reverse the gradient in pressure that the water would have from gravity alone. The air pressure would then only provide the initial push down, with the friction-slowdown gradient pushing the rest of the way.
Well I showed in a previous video that the pressure propagated through the water so it doesn’t matter whether something is underwater or not it still feels the lower vacuum. For example if I had a balloon underwater in the vacuum chamber And I lowered the pressure of the balloon with still expand in fact that’s what I did in previous video. There is probably an affect due to the dissolved air or water vapor under the ball also
Yes, lowering the air pressure on top of the water should lower the pressure of the water below, but it should do so globally. Thus, a change in air pressure alone should not be enough to make the net force on the ball in this vortex experiment, when it is already underwater, change from upward to downward or vice-versa (i.e. the direction of the pressure gradient should stay the same). Pressure-wise, having air on top should only increase the pressure everywhere below just like having some extra water on top (with vacuum above).
And my guess would be that dissolved air should have a negligible effect in this vortex experiment (i.e. not qualitatively change the experiment's result).
@@davidellsworth4203 I agree with you. It's not the air pressure that is pushing the ball downwards underwater. It's the pressure gradient. The same kind of pressure gradient that keeps the ball in the centre.
Velocity of water will be higher near the bottom(as the strirer is at the bottom) than at the top surface of water. So pressure will be lower at the bottom. Same way velocity of water is high at the centre(so less pressure) and the ball tries to remain in the center.
I'm sorry but there is no way I'm going to read all the comments above mine right now.
The ball moving down is not because of air pressure, it’s because the spinner acts as a pump. A pump has a low pressure side and a high pressure side. The low pressure side is the center and the high pressure side is the outermost part of the container. Water is being drawn into the center and pumped up along the outsides. The spinner makes a vacuum at the center of the container that is stronger than the buoyancy of the ball. When you place a vacuum on the entire enclosure, the relative vacuum of the spinner becomes weaker than the buoyancy of the ping pong ball.
And no, the water isn’t boiling.
5:23 Correction, that is probably not air, it's probably vaccum or possibly "steam" from the dissolved air in the water.
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@@TheActionLab It appeared right after you see bubbles of dissolved air into the water. These bubbles got trapped into the vortex motion under the ball, and caused the ball to raise up. I believe if this air or vapor has some way to escape from under the ball, the ball would sink again.
It would be interesting if you find a way to remote control the stirring motor, and start the vortex after all air removed - including that dissolved in the water, or just stop and re-start it under vacuum to check my interpretation.
Similarly, pressure and density differentials can make a boat sink simply by creating a certain amount of bubbles from underneath it.
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(Does that even make sense?)
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Yes. Do not swim in the chamber orchestra room because it requires the room to be filled with water and water is bad for wooden instruments.
This might be off topic, but can you put Newton's cradle in a vacuum chamber and wait 10-20 years? And 20 yrs later, check if it is still moving, cuz' there is no air drag to slow it down.
You're the closest thing we have to a 2000's version of the late Professor Julius Sumner Miller.
Great video, thank you and have a good day.
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In which vedio did he clickbated ?????
@@peacefulexaulter2160 The video which he talks about Vanta black
Even his clickbaits are scientifically interesting.
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What he never does is bait and switch.
and now there is a ball inside tornado
Does the water in the straw rises up because blowing air above creates a low pressure, so the air in the straw goes out and rises the water up ? If yes, then why doesn't the air surrounding the straw replaces the blown air instead of the air inside the straw, just like the effect in the video of the table fan's back. I'd be glad if you'd answer. Not an entire video but just a reply would be more than enough.
PS. I still praise the day when I'd found 5his channel 😍. Just a few days to go to finish binge-watching all the videos of AL
uc_human If the idea is true, I think that they both do since there has to be some sort of equilibrium.
Instead of thinking about it like the air in the straw is leaving so it “sucks up” or pulls the water up, its more like the atmospheric pressure on top of the water in the beaker is pushing water down, causing water to go up the straw, like a mercury barometer. Normally pressure above the straw and above the beaker are the same, but when blowing air, the pressure above the straw is lower due to fluid air moving quickly (Bernoulli effect I think) so water is pushed up by the normal pressure air above the beaker
@@x4002 this sounds satisfactory. Thanks
You're blowing the air above the straw away, so it creates a low pressure zone. And water rises to fill it up. Like a burning candle in a jar placed in a bowl of water
I thought that it was osmosis and diffusion
the vortex looks like a tornado in a jar
I always thought it was because of the centrifugal force of the water spinning it wants to move outwards and in doing so creates a hole in the middle
I think this is true as well.
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1:46 This sounds like dentist's tools. I hare this sound
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Great video. Just a reminder, all these are described by Venturi, bernoulli, coriolis....
I think would be a good idea to leave some references for people who want to go deeper. Again, great video, thanks for sharing
Would you try to use a colored gas (should it not harm the mechanism of course) with the vacuum chamber so we can see the air leaving and entering the system? This particular experiment would be much better in my opinion
I’d be curious to see this done with a solid ball, instead of a pingpong ball full of air
“Im gonna suck water by blowing air”
Starts spiting saliva
Has no one realized that the ball most likely changes in size with the pressure difference? It gets bigger under lower pressure (air inside has to expand to match the pressure), displacing more water and therefore having higher buoyancy.
Am I really the only one who figured this out?!
1:22 I thought it was his saliva
Hahaha..
Haha
I could’ve, but that’s why he showed the clear one
Shouldn't the ping pong ball pop, or grow in size. Have you put one in a vacuum chamber just by itself?
You're the only other one here I've seen who's figured it out. Of course it's the ball getting bigger and more buoyant, no one else can figure it out though...
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RUclips is dizzy from the whirlpool
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How come a video have 15 views and 2 likes? HOW? and 17 comments even tho its still 15 views!
Tom Scott explains it very well in "Why Computers Can't Count Sometimes". ruclips.net/video/RY_2gElt3SA/видео.html
What kind if pump do you use.
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I don't know - it's still sucking down there...
action lab: your explanation isn't accurate. it's more to do with liquid flow than atmospheric pressure. also you are conveniently skipping the fact that at very low pressure the water is actually boiling at room temperature
Where did you buy that? Could help with so many things around the house( I know what a blender is but it’s different )
Is it possible it was the water boiling that was raising the ball? The vortex would funnel the bubbles to the center.
interesting point of view there
zokyn well, he pulled a vacuum and I didn’t see it’s typical boiling effect so who knows.
This was the first thought that I had too.
It would be interesting to see this experiment done with a glass or clear plastic sphere done in a low to zero G environment. The ball should actually want to move to the middle center of the sphere. There should be a layer of gas bubbles that form around the outside of the ball.
that's also what I think
Man this guy's eyes are just too damn narrow in his head
I think these conclusions are all mostly wrong and a little right. I think you will understand more if you dump a little glitter in the water.
What If what happend is that the pressure chamber was trying to get to the pressure that is inside the ball Next?. It was all that was left.
Can a plant grow in a vacuum chamber
Where can I find this magnetic mixer that’s cordless?
5:25 that looks so cool
Do scales work in a vacuum chamber.
Put fish in there
There can never be a 100% vacuum while agitating water, the dissolved water molecules were replenishing air pressure, at least a tiny amount or I think the ball would’ve completely surfaced then jumped out of the container. Or, rather would’ve been thrown out by the water movement force. Fun fun experiment.
Any weight difference between air atmosphere and vacuum chamber ?
Mhm idk what to comment
Very cool experiment. But I think there should be more forces at play. Especially centripetal and centrifugal forces.
If you look at the level of the water on the side is the breaker when the fluid starts "flowing in circles", it rises significantly.
I don't know for sure though, is it because of the ball?
I have a hypothesis that the center of the water gets a hollow because due to centrifugal force most of the water molecules are pushed to the sides.
But why is it wider on top then the bottom?
My hypothesis is because of gravity, the deeper we go, the more mass on top of it to stop it from moving (inertia) this decreasing the "angular momentum?" because of lower fluid velocity?
I don't know what I'm saying anymore.
Please help me Action lab. 😁
1:23 Don't get fooled! He's just spitting! Everything about science is a lie! 😄
I wonder if that air(?o.O) under the ball would desapear if the whirlpool started when it were already in vacuum and how it would look
Yes! Please try also in a high pressure environment :D
When he blew the straw the sound reminded me of the dentists haha
I have another idea about physics behind this experiment.
Water high speed introduces lower pressure -> lower pressure introduces higher speed of liquid evaporation (or even boiling at this atmospheric pressure level) -> water vapor creates a higher pressure bellow a boll -> the boll goes up.
I have revised some physics.
And my conclusion is that it is required to reduce temperature of the water for clean experiment (at least zero degrees of Celsius, maybe just with ice will be ok)
The ball got the good succ
Check out what happens in a vacuum when you put an electrical charge at each end, positive and negative, gravel and sand on the bottom of the bottle and put a drop of water onto it and then turn the vacuum on, watch what happens to the evaporating drop of water.. watch what it does to the dirt/gravel floor. (Another RUclipsr did this and it creates hexagonal craters).
There's a gardening idea for blowing air across a tube to make water rise.. An air pump from a fishtank can be repurposed as a water pump to drip irrigate plants with the same principle. The air will force small amount of water to travel up some clear plastic tubing, just be sure the water can't flow back to the pump when turned it's off.
what witchcraft is this!
What encouraged you to do this video on sucking and blowing?🤔🤔🤔
That's a lot of sucking and moist experiment.
air remains in ball.
It's a smooth round ball that should react somewhat like a spinning ball thrown through air where air pressure is considered so, spin the ball and not the water. If it is just pressure from rapidly moving fluids causing the degree of sink in a vortex, you should get similar results for sink vs. rate of spin no matter if all the water in the vessel is spinning or just where the spinning ball comes in contact to react with it, maybe...IDK. This would eliminate the height difference in the surface of the water at the jar's wall and the center of the container and remove the effects of gravity wanting to push the ball towards the center and lower surface level to a large degree, shouldn't it?
I mean, if a whirlpool could spin fast enough to open an area at the bottom of the jar bigger than the ball, you could just simply say the ball was floating on the water and since it wasn't moving around the jar at the same speed as the water, it simply slid round and round downhill in the direction of the slope of the water's surface. I think there is more than that going on and more than one thing is causing/governing the ball's behavior, but to what degree do the variables together effect the overall outcome, that may be where the confusion comes in as to the overall answer.
Get some astronaut to do this in microgravity, with and without an atmosphere above the water. Maybe look for a slight change in a sealed and controlled pressure chamber with an experiment done at a place on the earth's surface that has lower gravity than at another place i.e., tall mountain made of lower mass/density rock material and then the Dead Sea.
Try putting the ball in a sealed-from-the-atmosphere jar filled to the top with water with no empty space gap between the water surface and the top of the vessel and spin the water or spin the ball, does the ball sink in both cases? Would it cause a pocket of vacuume to form at the top of the vessel or boil the water around the ball just from merely spinning something at a high speed easier than if open to out atmosphere? Interesting stuff to think about. If the ball acts like a spinning ball through air, a textured surface of different patterns should produce similar effects in water as in air. I do know you can rotate a dimpled cylindrcal shaft on bearings inside a water filled and sealed tube and get it to create enough heat in short order to boil the water.
Similar to a golf ball, can you steer a boat with a propeller made from a rotating ball, held in place using magnetic entrapment, with a simple but specific dimple patterned surface and nothing but changing the direction of the spin of the ball? What if you kept the same spin axis but could alter the dimple pattern at any time during operation? Off topic, I know. Just saying it while it was in my head at the moment.
Anyways, nice experiment.
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Woah man this is it, what I was trying for a month, Now I understood the behavior of Blackholes, Your video gimme direction for my next experiment...........Now I'm gonna try it in my Next Javascript program with pure visualization..........
It's not sinking in vacuum, but why is it floating up there?
I found something cool! When the ping pong ball rose a water vortex formed under the ping pong ball! SO Cool
You need a solid ball that floats at a near balance to be accurate in this experiment. You are expanding the ball filled with air and increasing buoyancy.
What happens if you put a goldfish in a fishbowl in a vacuum?
try it again with a solid object that floats so there isnt air in the object being tested
Stupendous visual at low pressures! Did you see that? the level of control of the ball height with pressure? Amazing
This is the best video!!! I didn't expect that at all!!!! It made a full vortex even though there was an object there....
That was completely unexpected. Great episode!
And thanks for not being run-of-the-mill. You come across like a kid playing with his toys rather than a science teacher with a curriculum to fill. It's a good example to set.
The outcome of the experiment was unexpected, not that it was unexpected that it was a great episode.
Just being clear.
It would seem to me, having observed your video as the pocket of air began to form under the ball (Thanks to the water essentially boiling thanks to your lowering the pressure -- and thusly the boiling temp-- ) that in practicality what was happening was you made a sort of pocket atmosphere, thanks to the flow of the water which actually prevented the air from simply rising out of the water like it would as if you just let it boil, which was actually exerting pressure that was fighting gravity as it built up under the ball. So it seems to me that the ball didn't rise because there was no air pressure to push it down, but instead the dissolved air from the water simply began to push it the opposite way towards the lower pressure of the vacuum! Nonetheless that is quite a fascinating phenomena you made!
Very cool. I learned a lot. Never occurred to me low pressure is what causing the funnel